1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: It's the Will and Woody podcast. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 2: We've got one of our faves, Abby Chatfield, whos joining 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: the boys on the show again. We spoke to you 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: a little while ago about just where you're at and 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: where you are now, Like, what do you put this 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: down to? You started out on the Bachelor, They made 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: you in this villain, you got edited up as this villain, 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: and you really were like, like genuinely like such strong 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: feelings of anger towards you when you and when you're 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: on the Bachelor, and now you've fully converted it through 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: real honesty, openness and also this this this thing that 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: you've fused with real sexual transparency as well, just talking 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: very openly about the fact that you are into sex. 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: You do have sex, and you know you're modeling vibrators 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: and there's sorts of things. Now, what was the big 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: turning point for you? Like, like, how did it, how 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: did it transition and did you aim to become the 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: person that you are now? Was this the goal or 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: did this just sort of natural spill? 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: No, none of it seems to the goal. I'm kind 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: of just like floating along like a a very confused jellyfish. 22 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: But I don't know. I mean I when I started 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: off off the Bachelor, I was so hated it didn't 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: really matter what I said. So I felt like everyone 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: hated me anyway, so how much worse could it get? 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 4: And then I was. 27 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: Just very honest, and then you know, kept getting different deals, 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 3: different brands and different shows that gave me more opportunity 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: to show myself. And I think I'm said to get 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 3: me out of here with a big turnaround because it's 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: not fully edited and it was a very family fun show. 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: So I don't know. I think it's just like you know, 33 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: and also using all my professional unfavors that I'm oh, 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 3: just like, I'm never letting it go. I'm glad you're 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: doing the right thing. 36 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 5: If you're just joining us. 37 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: And when he reached out to aavy, we are from 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: a TV show and Sydney. 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 5: We asked for a hand. 40 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: Have you couldn't help and she feels like she was 41 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: getting used for it, Yeah. 42 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 5: Pushing her show on our show, And. 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 6: He's right, this is professional again. I am making it 44 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 6: my number one goal in this Sydney ture. We're going 45 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 6: to do something socially abby. 46 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: Okay, gotta be fine because I actually called my agent. 47 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: Of course, I was like, of course, would he want 48 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: something from me? Now he has the goals? 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 7: Ask how are you? 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: I pull the curtain down on this, like behind the scenes, 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, what he said to me, He asked you, 52 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: and he was like, Abby said she can't do it. 53 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, that that's fair enough. She's 54 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 5: probably busy. 55 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: And then he said to me, but like, I'm at 56 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: that point now where you know, like I've asked her. 57 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: Should I feel guilty about the fact that I didn't ask, 58 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: like whether we should catch up or not? And given 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: that she said no, should be Should I then ask? 60 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: And I was like no, because I think if you 61 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: ask her now, it's going to be obvious that you 62 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: didn't ask her in the first place. And that is 63 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: exactly what exactly happened, exactly what has happened. 64 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is ingenuous, but it's okay. We've moved 65 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: on and we'll get through it. 66 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 8: I don't know if you have moved on. 67 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 5: I'm not. 68 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 8: That's happening at all. 69 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: Serious. 70 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 5: Oh wow, thanks much for joining us, mate. You're a 71 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 5: great success story. 72 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: You're fascinating to follow, and I think everybody is really 73 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: all about you right now. And I think You're a 74 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: wonderful example of how, no matter how bad things can 75 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: get for your publicly, if you just kind of open 76 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: and honest and true to who you are, then people 77 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: will get around you. 78 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 5: There was not a world. 79 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: There was not a world two years ago where you 80 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: were posing with vibrators at the pub as your date. 81 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, this is my date, and that was 82 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: accepted and loved by the public, and now it's just like, wow, 83 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: that's Abbi Chatfield doing her things. So you've kind of 84 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: like carved out a whole new space for yourself which 85 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: previously didn't exist, and that is nothing, nothing but admirable. 86 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: So congratulations, thank you. 87 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 5: That's really lovely, as always speak to you. So it's 88 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 5: the Women Wooden podcast Woodrow. 89 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: Yesterday you and I had two wonderful women on, Emily 90 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 2: and Lucy from the undone podcast So Mum and mea 91 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: podcast which is a cracking podcast two twenty five year 92 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: old women living together in the city. They talk sex, 93 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: they talk life, they talk it and it's all very transparent, 94 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 2: very honest. 95 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 6: They described it as the inside of a female's WhatsApp threat. 96 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: We had Emily and Lucy on yesterday and we got 97 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: into an area where we were talking about the things 98 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: that you know you would have done if not for COVID, 99 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: and we brought up something that Emily had said she 100 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: would have done, and the conversation that ensued, I mean 101 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: you and I immediately got very awkward around a few words. 102 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a couple of guys on the radio. Naturally, 103 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: this is the sort of stuff that we get told 104 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: to steer clear of, largely because A were not women, 105 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: but B we don't want to make it crass are offensive. 106 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 5: So this is what happened. What is your what is 107 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 5: your iaginist miss if you don't mind. 108 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 9: Me, okay, evaginismus is a condition that a lot of 109 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 9: people don't know about. It's a condition where you're kind 110 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 9: a vagina vagina of course, Saidie, it kind of tightens 111 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 9: up and it makes penetrative sex extremely difficult. 112 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 5: Gee whiz. 113 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: So naturally you and I moved on from this, and 114 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: I in fact sort of said we can't delve any 115 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: further into that, that's too much. And then my girlfriend 116 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: messaged me last night and she was like, Hey, I 117 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: don't know why you you quashed that conversation with Emily. 118 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: She was like, there's a real thing. Lots of women 119 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: suffer and it's actually really painful. So we've got Emily 120 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: back on the show today. 121 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 5: Welcome back. 122 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 7: M Hello, don't get me in trouble. 123 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 8: No, no, there's no trouble here. We you apologize. 124 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 6: I'm really the way that we reacted because this vaginismus. 125 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 6: As Will said, we've had a lot of women reach 126 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 6: out to us who have also struggled with vaginismus. And 127 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 6: you know, to all the women that are listening to 128 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 6: us right now that may have struggled with symptoms related 129 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 6: to vaginismus. I think this conversation is really important. 130 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 131 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 6: So for you, M, when did the vaginismus went? When 132 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 6: did it become a thing for you personally? 133 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 10: For me, I've had it my whole life. I also 134 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 10: have a condition called policistic ovarian syndrome which contributes to it. 135 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 10: And I think I mentioned you guys are there that 136 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 10: I just went my whole life just thinking that women 137 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 10: in general find sex excruciating painful. It was only when 138 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 10: I actually started working at MoMA Mia that one of 139 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 10: my friends who's in the writing team who wrote about 140 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 10: Bagine miss this and I was like, oh my God, 141 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 10: I have that, I got diagnosed with it, and yeah, 142 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 10: now I'm currently working through. 143 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 6: That, right and sorry, what does And we are going 144 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 6: to be speaking to, by the way, a professional in 145 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 6: this area, very very shortly. 146 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 8: But for you, Emily, what was working through it? 147 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 10: Oh, it's just like a lot of physiotherapy mental therapy. 148 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 10: It's a combination of both, like a mental blockage and 149 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 10: the physical blockage. 150 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 5: Oh wow, that is yeah, facinating. 151 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 10: Usually induced. So mine was came on very suddenly experience 152 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 10: of traumatic experience. 153 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay. 154 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 10: And then it's kind of like my body saying anything 155 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 10: that happens to me is kind of in danger, so 156 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 10: it's kind of trying to protect me, even though that 157 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 10: had been very consensual. 158 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 8: Wow, fascinating. 159 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, and it's so different for so many women. I 160 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 10: have a friend who can have penetrative sex, but you 161 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 10: can't have gynecological exams like that's when it happened for. 162 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 6: Oh right, okay, because for for whatever reason, her body 163 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 6: is responding to that as danger. 164 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 7: Yeah. 165 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 8: That wows really interesting. 166 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: Well, and I'm so glad you came back on to 167 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: clarify that for us. 168 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 11: Mate. 169 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: Honestly, that's I'm real and I also really sorry that 170 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: we were just like laughing and sort of moving it 171 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: on because you came on the show, we spoke about it. 172 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: I read it and I was like, jeez, what this 173 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: is interesting? And then I felt like we got into 174 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: an area where I was like, I've got to move 175 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: things on. And then I got home and I felt awful. 176 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: Sorry if we made you feel awkward. 177 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 10: About that, No you didn't. When you guys had that 178 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 10: train of laughter, I'm like, oh God, they have no idea. 179 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 6: What we didn't know, dear, but now we do, and 180 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 6: I think that's the key, and a lot of people listening. 181 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 8: Right now would know about it as well. 182 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us. Em really appreciate it, mate. 183 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 7: Were so much. 184 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 10: I appreciate it. 185 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 5: So what we're going to do right next? 186 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: We to have Shan Morrison, who is the owner director 187 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: of Women's and Men's Health Physiotherapy. She's going to join 188 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: us right up next to actually get right into psychologically 189 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: how this works. It might be you that has it, 190 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: might be your partner that's got it. Yeah, and I'm 191 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: sure this is something's probably affected a whole lot more people. 192 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: So let's do it's right up next. 193 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 5: I'm with the Weddy. 194 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 2: It's well, and what I hope you're having a wonderful 195 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: drive home. Brought to you by Mountain Goat this Friday 196 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: Afternoon Woods. We had Emily and Lucy from the Undone 197 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: podcast on the show yesterday and Emily brought up something 198 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: really quite sensitive. You and I got very icky, tried 199 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: to laugh about it. Here here it is if you 200 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: missed it. 201 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 5: What is your what is your vaginismus? 202 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 9: If you don't mind, okayaginis is a condition that a 203 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 9: lot of people don't know about. It's a condition where 204 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 9: your kind of vagina vagina. 205 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 8: Of course said. 206 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 9: Aside, it kind of tightens up and it makes penetrative 207 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 9: sex extremely difficult. 208 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: Gee whiz, So you and I heard that naturally two 209 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: guys on the radio. You know, we steer away from, 210 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 2: you know, all that sort of gear. And but then 211 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: online because we posted this video on our Instagram last 212 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: night on Willan Woodie, a whole bunch of people saying, guys, 213 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: you know you shouldn't have moved on from that. 214 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 5: This is a real thing. If you missed that. 215 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 2: We just had Emily on the show to clear it 216 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: all up. She's totally cool that she were just glad 217 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: that we were talking about it. So we thought we'd 218 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: just as we like to do on this show, just 219 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: really tear the curtain down and get our hands dirty 220 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: and actually talk about this thing. So we've got Sean 221 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: Morrison who joins. She's the owner director of Women's and 222 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: Men's Health Physiotherapy. Welcome Sean, Hi, real woody, how are 223 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: you really? 224 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 8: Really good? 225 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 6: Thank you, Shan. My first question is just how common 226 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 6: is vaginismus. 227 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 12: It's actually so much more common than we think. So 228 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 12: we know at least one in five women experience same 229 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 12: with sex. Gee, but I'd say pretty much all of 230 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 12: them are you know, suffering silence and too embarrassed. 231 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: To talk about it. 232 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 12: So I was so proud of Emily, like, how yeah 233 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 12: she actually you know, speaking about it. She's so impressive. 234 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 8: It's awesome she was. It was. It was scary to 235 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 8: hear though that she Emily I'm. 236 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 6: Talking about before she was diagnosed, before she investigated it, 237 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 6: just thought that sex that's was painful. 238 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, and that is so true, like every woman that 239 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 12: we would treated our practice would think exactly the same way. 240 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: And the other thing that Emily brought up here, which 241 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: you know, we're just learning more and more about this now, 242 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: is that the reason that it started for her was 243 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: because of it was a reaction to some sort of 244 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: psychological trauma that she experienced, which you know, I thought 245 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: it was I had no idea that that was the case. 246 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: Actually her body physiologically protecting her. Can you talk a 247 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: little bit more about the mental side of the condition. 248 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, sure. 249 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 12: So we see a lot of people who had some 250 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 12: past history of trauma or are you know, a physical 251 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 12: or an emotional sort of psychological trauma. And as you 252 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 12: guys said before, the mind and the body are completely connected, 253 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 12: like we can't we can't separate them. And so once 254 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 12: you start having negative emotions and thoughts around this, then 255 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 12: that then the body will protect you from that threat 256 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 12: or that danger. 257 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 6: So is it something that is curable or is it 258 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 6: just something that people have to regularly take care. 259 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 8: Of or you know, try and control over a long 260 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 8: period of time. 261 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a great question. It's not something that can 262 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 12: be improved really quickly. But the vast majority of women 263 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 12: that we see you've definitely experienced significant improvement. 264 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 5: Well that's good. 265 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: Good, And because it obviously it's just like a huge 266 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: part of somebody's confidence, Like you know, if you're physically 267 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: incapable of, you know, connecting with someone you like, particularly 268 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 2: with your like your partner, I imagine or you know, if 269 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 2: you are single, if you see if that would probably 270 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: be worse, wouldn't it. You're not if you're seeing someone 271 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: for the first time and you know you really do 272 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: want to have sex with them, be intimate with them, 273 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: but you physically can't. 274 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 5: I know, like if I if I put my man 275 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 5: I don't know, to put a man hat on. 276 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 8: I already am a man, but that's always on. 277 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 5: It's a permanent hat. 278 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: But if I put myself in the shoes of a 279 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: guy who's just about to sleep with a girl and 280 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: she says to me, I can't have sex with you 281 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: because of X, Y and Z, naturally, my first reaction 282 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: there is just like I've done something wrong, and you know, 283 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 2: you're so insecure in that space anyway, you're trying to 284 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: make yourself vulnerable, and then they tell you they can't 285 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: do it, you naturally think that it was something that 286 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: you were doing. What's the role of the partner or 287 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: the the other person in a sexual relationship with someone 288 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: if they have got vaginismus, Like, how do you you 289 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: know bridge that. 290 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 12: So many of the women that we see will say that, 291 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 12: you know, I feel like I'm not normal and or 292 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 12: I'm not going to I'm not a good partner. I'm 293 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 12: going to have a partner. And where can you invite 294 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 12: partners to come into the consultation if they want to? 295 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 12: And it's fantastic when they do, all right, And I 296 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 12: think there's actually really interesting research study that was done 297 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 12: that looked at the different partner types and they found 298 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 12: the perfect type or the best type of partner of 299 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 12: what's the one that was supportive patients encouraged open communication 300 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 12: about it was obviously you know, understanding. You know, certainly 301 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 12: we don't want partners to blame themselves, but that is 302 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 12: often a natural reaction working through it together, and just 303 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 12: like every other aspect of your relationship should be involving 304 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 12: open communication and understanding and being supportive. So they're the 305 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 12: best type of partners. 306 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, vaginismas or not, I think patients and open communication 307 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 6: is absolutely the way through any issue, really challenge. 308 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been an amazingly helpful chat with you. 309 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure there are loads of people listening to this 310 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: who immediately, just like Emily, are. 311 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 5: Thinking of themselves. 312 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: Ge whiz, this is probably what's been going on with 313 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: me for a really long time. So se Sean Morrison 314 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: is the only director of Women's and Men's Health Physiotherapy. 315 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 5: Where can we find you online? 316 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 12: Chant www dot WMHP dot com dot au huge. 317 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 2: There you go WMHP dot com if you want to 318 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 2: go and check out chan Chan. Thank you so much 319 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: for joining us. Pleasure, absolutely pleasure. 320 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: It's the Will and Woody Podcast. 321 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: We've got a very special guest in Casey Donovan who 322 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: joins the boys in the Citio case. 323 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 8: Welcome back, thanks for having me. 324 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 5: Absolutely pleasure to have you back. 325 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: And I learned just beforehand that you are now with 326 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: your girlfriend Renee for over a year. 327 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 5: I am so full COVID relationship. 328 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 13: Full COVID relationship. 329 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 8: You know. It was a bit of a. 330 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 13: Bumble stumble and you know, I went for a few 331 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 13: walks and then you know, the walks turned into talks, 332 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 13: and then the talks turned into a relationship a year later. 333 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 5: So nice Woods is a COVID relationship expert. 334 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, I had a hinge singe. It doesn't work as 335 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 8: well as yours. 336 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, but I've got a question for you, case 337 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 6: I found with my partner. So we've been daddy now 338 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 6: for nine months. Things escalated really quickly in the lockdown 339 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 6: because it was almost like, because you couldn't do anything else, 340 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 6: put a lot of time and energy into the relationship. 341 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 8: Was that the same with you? 342 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 13: Yeah, it really was, and it really still is. It's 343 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 13: just this beautiful kind of Yeah, it's like planting the 344 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 13: seed and watching it grow and giving it time and 345 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 13: energy because you know, I mean, she's a lecturer for paramedicine. 346 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 5: And nice, very fancy. Yeah it was. 347 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 13: I don't know, it's just it's just really lovely and 348 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 13: we're chatting this morning and I was just we're like, 349 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 13: this is awesome, Like it's not stressful, it's just yeah. 350 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 8: I'm happy to hear that. So next question, when you're 351 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 8: proposing you do. 352 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 13: It, it's not that kind of you whole, but no, 353 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 13: it's look, we're just really enjoying each other's company and yeah, 354 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 13: just doing life together. 355 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 8: It's really I've. 356 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 5: Got to admit I was. 357 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: I was impressed finding out that you met somebody else 358 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: online and you were just happy. 359 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 5: To just just carry on? 360 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 7: Was the word? 361 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 8: Were you? Where you're scared? 362 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 12: And all? 363 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 5: Was always the first. 364 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: Day were you just like, oh my god, like, was 365 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: she five minutes late? 366 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 5: Where you like, Jesus Christ is gonna be happening? 367 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 8: He again, No you're not. 368 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 13: We had the zoom dates, so you know, camera on 369 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 13: amera on green light, you know. And she was so adorable. 370 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 13: She set up a little cafe background and was very small. 371 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: I was really cute. 372 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 5: That's so good, that's wonderful. 373 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: Well, look from Warman Gulley to now one of the 374 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: great challenges in live radio. Let's get down to business. 375 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: You are here to join us for Cassio karaoke. 376 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 5: Butes, pizza Happy's the hungry. 377 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 8: He's find them in the freezer roll of the supermarket. 378 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 14: Cassie, you carry yoke. Cassie, you carry yoke. Cassie, you carry. 379 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: Yokey Casey Cassio karaoke if you if you're fresh to 380 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: Cassio karaoke. It is all thanks to Papa just said 381 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: his pizza Happies the Angry to find them in the 382 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: freezer roll of the supermarket. 383 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 5: The way that it works is you've got. 384 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: One song to write, a song which is going to 385 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: be bloody interesting stuff because some alumni here just for 386 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: your reference. Case Pete Murray's done this, Amy Shark's done this. 387 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: G Flip's done this, and interestingly, if I can cast 388 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 2: your mind back, Anthony Khali has done this, and Ricky 389 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: Lee has also done this. 390 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 6: Wow sore some former combatants. 391 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 8: Yes, that's right, Casey. Does the rivalry still ring true there? 392 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 8: Like do you want to be doing a better cassio 393 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 8: karaoke than them? 394 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 12: Oh? 395 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 13: Look, you know, I just I get out there and 396 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 13: I do my best, is what I do? You know, 397 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 13: I put my blinders on and out she goes, and 398 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 13: you know, whatever happened to leave it on, you know, 399 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 13: leave it on the floor and you get out. 400 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you also smoked them back in two thousand and four, 401 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: So nothing to be worried about you. 402 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 5: That's how I'm saying. They didn't bother me. There, they're 403 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 5: not bothering me now. 404 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 8: Blind is it on? 405 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 5: Very good stuff? 406 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 8: All right. 407 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: So what we're going to be doing is we're going 408 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: to be doing a track from your two thousand and 409 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: four record for you. We're going we do it parodying 410 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: what's going on? 411 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 12: What you want? 412 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: Cracking song Drew Casey Donovan's so powerful, hits all the nights. 413 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: She's got one of the great voices, Casey, and we're 414 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: gonna write and we're going to try and write a 415 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: parody about Halloween done wrong to. 416 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 5: What's going on. 417 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 2: And on the other side, case he's going to be 418 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: only accompanied by a cassio keyboard and performing it live 419 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: for you guys. 420 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 5: Light up next, and she's feeling good about it as well. 421 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 5: Look at it. 422 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 13: Ready, Yeah, here we go. 423 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 5: It's cassio karaoke right up next with Casey Donovan. 424 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: It's the Will and Woody podcast. 425 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: We've got the one and on the Casey Donovan, who's 426 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: joining the boys in the studio. She's going to take 427 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: on the cassio karaoke Challengeeppes Pizza Happy's the hungry to 428 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: find them in the freezer roll of the supermarket. 429 00:18:55,359 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 14: Cassie, you carry yoke, Cassie, you carry yoke. Cassie, you'll 430 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 14: carry yo key. 431 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: Alrighty, let's get into it. So pretty tough time. It's 432 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: been frantic writing in the studio. Here hot three minutes, 433 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: Casey largely just swatting away a whole bunch of shit 434 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: lobbed up Barbi. 435 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 6: And you're actually the first one Casey who has opted 436 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 6: to not include us in the vocal performance as well, 437 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 6: which I think is a very wise call. 438 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I knew that. 439 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 6: You're going solo. You're singing about Halloween. Happy Halloween to 440 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 6: everyone listening to us right now. But this is Halloween 441 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 6: gone wrong, yes, covering one of your songs. What's going on? 442 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 8: Alright? 443 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 6: Alright to get everyone excited about live music? Came back absolutely, Jonovan, 444 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 6: You are about to perform live. 445 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 8: You've written this song in three minutes. It's Halloween gone wrong. 446 00:19:52,440 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 15: Good, it's six pm, a pannick in cry for good. 447 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 1: It's halloweena again. 448 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 16: Treat or treats here knocking on my door. No, Loney's here, 449 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 16: oh dear, And I can't pretend trying to keep them 450 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 16: weed bigs and read. The kids don't let my house 451 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 16: cars thatta, They'll pelt my tree with twilet favern't Halloweendow. 452 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 5: The kids don't care if. 453 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 8: They want to fight forgot they're alleys now. 454 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: I'm in for a fried save me Halloweendow, Halloween dolong, 455 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: Halloween done wrong. 456 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: If there's one thing that I can sue this, you 457 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: must have. 458 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 16: Stuck up bomb Lilly's this Hallow. 459 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 13: Or you'll get a lip bag of dog poos. Honestly, 460 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 13: just you know, get the. 461 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Littles because I counity. 462 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 13: I'm pretend I try to, but you know, try to 463 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 13: give and fruit. 464 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: The kids don't want to. 465 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 8: Bomb my house and cause a spina, bring my. 466 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 4: Doorbell and run ever and diver and diver. 467 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 13: And sht to take the batteries at Halloween done wrong. 468 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: The kids don't care. 469 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 5: They want to fight. 470 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 8: We've got their lovelease now I'm. 471 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: In for a fine. 472 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: Please save me. Halloween t. 473 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 12: Hello, we do long? 474 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 16: Halloween done wrong? 475 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 12: Guys? 476 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 8: Oh god, yeah, thank you? 477 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 5: Crazy well done. 478 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 8: Halloween done wrong. 479 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 5: Cassio Karaoke smashed it. You did, absolutely, I really did. 480 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 13: I thought I was sixteen. Again, your voice does change 481 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 13: a lot in seventeen years. 482 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 5: That was phenomenal. 483 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: So that was from your record two thousand and four 484 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: for you came out and now it's old enough that 485 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: you can parody it safely. You take it what is 486 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: normally like a love song, really now it turned it 487 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: into taking a piece. 488 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 5: Out of Halloween. 489 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, why not? 490 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 5: I funny love that about you. Casey, Thank you, thank 491 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 5: you so much, very wonderful. I did it wrong, certainly 492 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 5: did Oh? 493 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: Thanks for Papa you said his pizza Happy's the Hungry 494 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: to find them in the freezer all of the supermarket 495 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: Cassio karaoke another hit there with Will and Woody. 496 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: It's the Will and Woody Podcast. 497 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 6: G spare of thought Will for this reporter in Louisiana 498 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 6: who was interviewing a man who just bought a TATS 499 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 6: lotto ticket, doing that classic thing where they crossed down 500 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 6: to the news agency and they asked people. 501 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 8: What would you spend the money on if you won 502 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 8: the lottery? And unfortunately they were live on TV and 503 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 8: this is what this guy said, What are you going 504 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 8: to do with that money? 505 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 17: If you went, well, I'm definitely gonna get a new 506 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 17: supercharge Mustang with door exhaust and about five kilos of 507 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 17: cocaine and I'll be good to go. 508 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 8: Okay, So you like cars, you likes the cover. It's 509 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 8: the cover you like guys. 510 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 5: Okay, just ignored and she's live five killers of cocaine. 511 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 8: You have to ignore it, but I do want to 512 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 8: put one odd times. 513 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 5: He's obviously thought about it. 514 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 8: Just Just listen to how quickly she goes straight away. 515 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 8: Oh sure, you like cars. It's worth listening to again, 516 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 8: what are you going to do with that? 517 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 17: Money if you win, Well, I'm definitely going to get 518 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 17: a new supercharge Mustang with dull exhaust and about five 519 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 17: killers of cocaine and I'll be good to go. 520 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 13: Okay, so you like cars, you like cars? 521 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 8: I love it. 522 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: Now. 523 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 8: Now on live TV, whatever is said goes. So that's 524 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 8: why you do get those slips on TV. 525 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 6: Now, well, I want to pull down the curtain a 526 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 6: little bit on our radio show because there's obviously a 527 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 6: chance that people will call our show and say something 528 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 6: rude or talk about wanting five kilograms of cocaine. But 529 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 6: we are lucky because we operating this ten second delay. 530 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 6: So dick our button push you can actually you can 531 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 6: hit a button and we go back ten seconds, so 532 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 6: the people listening will never hear someone swearing or saying 533 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 6: something inappropriate. 534 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 8: But what I want to do right time travel. We 535 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 8: time travel and it's bloody impressive. It is quite Frankly, 536 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 8: if you. 537 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 5: Don't understand that on first listen, totally get it. 538 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 8: I still don't really get it. 539 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 5: No, I don't think a lot about it. 540 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 6: Effectively, we're able to stop rude stuff going on air live. 541 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 8: Yes, with a button, a magic button. 542 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 5: I know it's extreme. It's like time travel. 543 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 8: Yeah, it is amazing. 544 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 6: But what I want to do right now though, is 545 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 6: again just to pull that curtain back even further, is 546 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 6: I've got a montage of every single time our show 547 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 6: has been dumped in the last four years, and I 548 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 6: want to play you the actual audio. We haven't heard 549 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 6: these yet either, and until this point, no one has 550 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 6: ever heard this because we erase it when we hit 551 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 6: a button. Yeah, but sit back and enjoy the actual 552 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 6: moments that you missed when people said inappropriate things. 553 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: So that there's a spider walking around? 554 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 8: Do you love Can I love him? 555 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 11: Yeah? 556 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 6: Sure enough, that's. 557 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 5: Sure. 558 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 12: You're gotta bring the orgasm in there. 559 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 5: The orgasm has been banned. That's not an option. You can't. 560 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 5: You can't, you can't. He's he's just sworn as well. 561 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 5: We don't cover it very well, do we final call? 562 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 5: What was the fun to all? 563 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 8: It was rejected idea. 564 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 5: It was orgasm and option. 565 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 8: It was a rejected idea. 566 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 6: I want people to come on here and do a 567 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 6: fake orgasm, which we found out was breaking codes. 568 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 5: And then this guy, this guy. 569 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: Calls up and he goes, oh, well, I'm glad that 570 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: got dumb. 571 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: It's the will and Woody podcast or Roe. 572 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 5: We are talking worst first dates. Absolutely, I just can't wait. 573 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 8: You are on our very thirsty we We. 574 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 6: Just came across an extraordinary video and ticks talk about 575 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 6: this woman who was revealing just an awful first night. 576 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 6: If you have missed it, the girl affictionately known as 577 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 6: Taco Girl on this show told this story. 578 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 11: This man messages me out of the blue and he goes, 579 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 11: I like your face, Let's go get some food. I 580 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 11: drive forty five minutes to his house. He's standing outside 581 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 11: of it. He walks up to my car and he goes, 582 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 11: I've lost my keys, can you drive us there? We 583 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 11: end up at a taco bell. We get to the 584 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 11: speaker and he just leans over and goes, I would 585 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 11: like one hundred hardshelled tacos. Thank you. He does one 586 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 11: of these numbers. I'm like, did you forget your wallet? 587 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 11: He's like yeah. I was like, do you need me 588 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 11: to pay? He's like yeah, And I'm like, where to next? 589 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 11: And he goes back to my house. He lives with 590 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 11: his dad. It's fine, sits down and he just screams 591 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 11: at the top of his lungs, let's be stop. 592 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 5: So the dad just to come back to the dad. 593 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 5: The dad used his son sons tend out to go 594 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 5: and get them down. 595 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 8: Waitt bake you li like that. That's what's happened there. 596 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 5: That's amazing. 597 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 8: Dead and son sitting on the couch. Who wants tacos? 598 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 6: I'll swap right here and see if I can bring 599 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 6: back some, And then him and his dad just continue 600 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 6: to eat all the hundred tacos in front of this 601 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 6: poor wow who was on a date. 602 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 14: Now. 603 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 6: We spoke about that on air, and then a woman 604 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 6: called Trin reached out to us and Trin, you think 605 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 6: you may have experienced a worse first date than taco girl. 606 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: Oh? 607 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 7: Pretty up there, pretty up there. 608 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 8: Amazing indulgence. 609 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 7: So we were on our first day and had a 610 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 7: few drinks and I just wasn't vibing it, and he. 611 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 3: Was like, I'll get us another round, so I and 612 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 3: I was like, oh yes, and he went off to 613 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 3: get it. 614 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 7: And I thought, I'll text my friend that I was 615 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 7: talking to before the date and I'll give her an update. 616 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 7: And I said, oh, he's just gone to buy another round. 617 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 7: I'm really not feeling it, but I'm going to just 618 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 7: sit through another round of drinks with them. Yeah, I 619 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 7: accidentally take SEP to him. 620 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 5: Oh oh wow, Oh my god, where was he when 621 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 5: he got the message? 622 00:28:54,200 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 7: When he got I didn't realize. He comes back and 623 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 7: he's like, oh, you're such a prankster, aren't you. And 624 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 7: I was like, and he goes, you think you're so funny, 625 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 7: and I was like, what are you talking about. He's like, 626 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 7: don't worry, I know you're having me on. It's all good. 627 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 7: And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. 628 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 7: Still had no idea. He showed me the text message. 629 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 7: I was like, oh, I want to go apologize. And 630 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 7: I realized that he knew it was meant for my friend, 631 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 7: but he was saving face. So I went along with 632 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 7: him and I was like, yeah, that's so funny, right, 633 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 7: I just want to be a bit of a break. 634 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I want to die in awkwardness. 635 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 8: What happened? 636 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 7: We just had to set through another drink here and 637 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 7: both of us knew. 638 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: So awkward. 639 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 7: And then afterwards we just like walked out of the 640 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 7: bar together and it was just again like just so cringe. 641 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 8: Oh god, that's a whole topic. Can I just say 642 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 8: we're going to have to bring that back? 643 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 6: Texting the person that they were texting a bat the 644 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 6: worst thing that can possibly happen. 645 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 5: I just at what point did he think, Well, I mean, 646 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 5: what would you do in that situation? Would you go 647 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 5: back with the gag? Would you go back with what 648 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 5: he went back with? 649 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 6: I actually think I I think I would delete the 650 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 6: message and I pretend it never happened. 651 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 5: Oh, you just mention it. 652 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 8: I just wouldn't mention it. I just get through the 653 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 8: next stream. You didn't know. 654 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 5: But in this instance, like you didn't know that Trin 655 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 5: didn't know that you didn't know. Does that make sense 656 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 5: for no one knew? 657 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 8: And oh yeah, yeah, I think i'd play. 658 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 5: It the same. 659 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 6: I know it's awkward, but what's more awkward is coming 660 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 6: back and going you just sent me the message that 661 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 6: you meant to send your friend. 662 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 8: Yes, is awful, Yes, that was awful. 663 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, No, he played it. I just would have exited 664 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 5: the stage left. Yeah. I would not come back. I 665 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 5: would have gone straight out the back. 666 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 6: I would have got some laxatives and chucked it in 667 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 6: your drink, and then I sat back and pretend that 668 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 6: I never got the message. Yeah, oh that's fair game. 669 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 6: You know said something nasty? Have the books for the 670 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 6: nine anyway, I think that's all that. I think the 671 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 6: wind is still on the sorry trim. Let's go to 672 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 6: a song.