1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: You'll recognize the voice of my next guest because you're 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: probably hear him on the drive home with Andrew. Long 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: time fish. Oh. Jason Rogers joins me on the line 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: right now. Good morning, Jason, Good morning Katie. 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 2: Here you go. 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: You're really good mate. 7 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: Now. 8 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Lots of discussion this morning about whether you know whether 9 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: there should be a jetty at Dudley Point. What do 10 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: you think? 11 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: Well, look, I'm always a supporter of anything fishing, because 12 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: I've been fishing on my life. I'm not sold on it. 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: What's that you know? I'm not sold on it. I 14 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: don't think it's I think there's plenty of stuff that's 15 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 2: sort of half done, half cooked around the place. We've 16 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: got all these boat ramps that are half fixed, half done. 17 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: We've got Mike withf Jerty, which is sort of they 18 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: struggle to maintain infrastructure there. I've actually worked on it 19 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: as well, and it's sort of always just getting patched up. 20 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 2: It's never getting total refurbishment or refixing. It's always sort 21 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: of half condemned, maybe improve or or you know, fix 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: some of the stuff that we've half done, like some 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: of the boat ramps we've got in place, like Shady 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: Camp this year, for instance, a runoff. They spent big 25 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: money building a raid out to Point Stewart and we've 26 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: got a good boat ramp a shady camp and you 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 2: couldn't get to the boat ramp of Shady Camp because 28 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: they built the road out to Point Stewart and the 29 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: gate was locked. You know, like this is we seem 30 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: to be spending money on things that we've sort of 31 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: can't We've got stuff in place and we can't use 32 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: it all the time because it's half broken or it's 33 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: half fixed. Like there's the east arm boat ramp. How 34 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: long has that been broken for? You know it maybe 35 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: put a fishing structure there, like a rock grain a 36 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: wall and protect that. It served to protect the boat 37 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: ramp there from all weather and all sorts of things. 38 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: Like I think when you really need to look at 39 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: where we spend this money, because there's not a lot 40 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: of it to go around, and we really need to 41 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: spend it properly. And like if you get a jetty 42 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: out there, there's a few things out there. It's a 43 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: marine cont marine reserve, a small fish. You know, there's 44 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: only one or two of them in the harbor, And 45 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: why are we going to build JETI where people are 46 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: going to go and fish and catch these small fish 47 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: off the jetty and there's a sewerage outlet just next 48 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: to it. You've got to eat Coyle like concerns, you know. 49 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so there's actually so there is a sewage 50 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: out let nearby to where where they're talking about. 51 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, at least point. I went out there 52 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: last week, so I was talking to Crystal about it. 53 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: When I was talking to Andrew. I actually went out 54 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: and filmed it and you can see the sewerage pumping 55 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: out of it. When I got out of the of 56 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: the the car at the Rock Hitters club to have 57 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: a look at it, I got an instant headache from 58 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: the smell. It was just, you know, I reckon Kenny 59 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: would have cringed. 60 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: Right where your mate? So was that more? Is that 61 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: more sort of around towards the Rock Hitters or whereabout 62 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Steve mate? 63 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah it is, it's around towards the Rock Hitters. But 64 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: the swim and I think you're going to have heavy 65 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: metals in that area. I think some of the fish 66 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: will be eating that stuff you go and catch them. 67 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: There's potential harm there. I don't know if there's ever 68 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: been any studies on the things I think, you know, 69 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: like benefits of fishing for sure, but maybe we can 70 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: look at it a better way. And you know, who's 71 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: who's come up with this idea? Where's it come from? 72 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: How's it you know, has it been costed, has it 73 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: been planned, has it been you know, yeah, plan maintenance 74 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: looked at. It's just I think if we put something 75 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: in and then each point isn't open, it's got hours 76 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: and of the operation like the Big Gates class. 77 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's something that's been raised with us this morning, 78 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: people saying is it going to be open later at night? 79 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: I suppose what the government's asking for at the moment though, 80 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: is that, you know, for people to have their say 81 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: to gauge where the people are even sort of interested 82 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: in it going there before they start that work of 83 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: actually going down that path. 84 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, well the Mandora one stuff just starting to 85 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: work on now, and then I know the planning that 86 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: went into place probably eight nine, ten years ago. Yeah, 87 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: so you know this this thing isn't going to happen 88 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: tomorrow or next year. I think we really should be 89 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: and it's going to cost a lot of money to 90 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: get to that stage. Yeah, I think in this, in 91 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: this sort of climate and the way things are, let's 92 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: have some immediate benefits like fish stocking Darling Harbor. How 93 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: good would it be to stock you know, one hundreds 94 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: of thousands of barren monday in the harbor and that 95 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: anyone can walk to anywhere on the beach or for 96 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: sure and catch a barro. You know, if you had 97 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: the plentiful supply of fish in the harbor that anyone 98 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: could go and get a barre, how good would that be? 99 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: That's going to be overwhelming, you know, benefits for the economy, hotels, businesses, 100 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 2: all the people that have been coming up here to 101 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: just catch a barrow off the bank. 102 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: So, Jason, before I let you go, you touched on 103 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: this just a moment ago about the East arm boat ramp. 104 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: So is there repairs that need to happen out there 105 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: that still haven't happened, Because Robert called in to say 106 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: that there were repairs to the Eastern boat ramp, that 107 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: a man in his seventies had sustained some arm injuries 108 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: out there about six months ago, adding that he had 109 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: also injured himself as well at that boat ramp about 110 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: two months ago. 111 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: That's right, and it hasn't been fixed for last year. 112 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: That's why Dina Beach bat ramp has such overflow because 113 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: people don't want to go and use that bat ramp. 114 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: There's only certain tides they can use it on the 115 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: bigger tides that once that water gets out a bit. 116 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: And it's actually got better title access than Dina Beach, 117 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: so I don't know what. And the car parking out 118 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: there is unreal. The car parking in Dinah Beach. It's 119 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 2: encroaching on local residents and businesses because people everyone's blocking 120 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: there to use it because the other ones sort of 121 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: it's usable, but unusable that a lot of the time, 122 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: and it's just dangerous. I've fallen over there and hurt myself. 123 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah right, I'm always launching bats. I've done a lot 124 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: of bait launching and I've gone over there and gone baying, 125 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: went down. There's only luck that I didn't hurt myself 126 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: even more. But it's definitely very dangerous, and you know, 127 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: like there's sort of things that probably need to be 128 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: looked at before we start looking at jetties. I think, 129 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: you know, I'd love to be able to get on 130 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: the process, get on the table of some of these 131 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: talks because I've got lots of ideas. I'm good at ideas, 132 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: but I'm not so good at putting things in place. 133 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: No ideas to come. 134 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and look, that's I suppose that's the thing, 135 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: isn't it? You know, like it's it is. It's quite 136 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: easy to think of just different ideas, but finding the 137 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: money for it as well, and making sure that it 138 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: is done properly, I think, is the other point that 139 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: is definitely worth making. Jason. Yeah, mate, I really appreciate 140 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: you having a chat with us this morning. No doubt 141 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again soon. 142 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: We'll be in there this week to talk to Andrews. 143 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: Sounds like a plan. It sounds like a plan. Good 144 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: on you, Jason, Thanks so much for your time this morning. 145 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: Thank you