Speaker 1: The Flex and Rooms Daily podcast.
Speaker 2: The Millennial pause like it's an inhale. It's the inhale,
Speaker 2: lean back lipsmack enter, I'll do it. Hello everyone.
Speaker 3: It's so like self congratulatory, like circle jerk.
Speaker 2: Or wang vibes.
Speaker 3: But alas today we're talking about celeb spell check.
Speaker 2: I let my feelings be known, which I always love
Speaker 2: to hear from. You get unabashed passion.
Speaker 3: Amped up about the most pointless of social issues, celeb
Speaker 3: spell check. If you're listening to this, which I'm sure
Speaker 3: you are, no shade. You know you're doing this for
Speaker 3: a reason. It started out really fun. Am I a
Speaker 3: fan of it? Now? No?
Speaker 2: Do I look at your stuff?
Speaker 3: No? I don't because I don't want to perpetuate bullying
Speaker 3: of any kind. I think bullies are silly and things
Speaker 3: come back. You know, calmer exists.
Speaker 2: I'm still down for bullyings, so light and shade, light
Speaker 2: and shade. No, I just want to be in a utopia.
Speaker 3: Anyway, we're trying to get to the bottom of who
Speaker 3: the heck celeb Spelchick is. If you are following flex
Speaker 3: Bummy on Instagram, you'll have seen that somebody DMed her
Speaker 3: a proposition about potentially who could it be a proposition?
Speaker 2: Not quite, but I get what you're saying anyway.
Speaker 3: So as I listened back to the podcast and realize
Speaker 3: we're using words in the wrong context, we yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: think about what you said.
Speaker 2: I'll dox you next time.
Speaker 1: Let's go flex and frooms.
Speaker 3: So I had an open for inspection occur in my
Speaker 3: rental property on the weekend.
Speaker 2: Had you like taken everything out or as is? Strangers
Speaker 2: were allowed to come into your occupied place temporarily to
Speaker 2: have a quick.
Speaker 3: Look fifteen minutes in the house unsupervised wool. As you
Speaker 3: can imagine, this was a stressful situation to find myself in.
Speaker 3: I am scared of people looking through my staff.
Speaker 2: Did you linger out the front? Was there a big line?
Speaker 3: So there was two inspections earlier though it was another
Speaker 3: on Thursday, and I hung out the front so I'd
Speaker 3: live in an area which like wouldn't be weird for
Speaker 3: me to hang out the front.
Speaker 2: You're scaring the hose, babe, Get out of there.
Speaker 3: The inspection was at eleven thirty five, and I walked
Speaker 3: out of the house of eleven thirty old. Better yeat
Speaker 3: out before everyone arrives. I walk out of my front door,
Speaker 3: all down the stairs people oops, And I had to
Speaker 3: be like, oh, hey, it's a great place, you're going
Speaker 3: to really love it. I almost considered, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: but there's a fudge ton of mold in the bathroom,
Speaker 3: but I thought I'll hold.
Speaker 2: A little treat for them to find out when they
Speaker 2: finally so.
Speaker 3: I got to see who went to and fro then
Speaker 3: and it kind of gave me hope, like everyone looked
Speaker 3: pretty legit. But then on the Saturday, which is the
Speaker 3: real heathen day, I was out looking at a different house.
Speaker 3: So I was doing an open for inspection or crossing,
Speaker 3: which was in the same situation as me. Obviously, three
Speaker 3: women had lived there, all of their stuff everywhere, retainers
Speaker 3: on the nightstand. It was like, if you ever think
Speaker 3: that your life isn't original, go to an open house
Speaker 3: where everyone's shit is everywhere.
Speaker 2: I had to do all kinds of things.
Speaker 3: I had to lock up my bedside table with tape,
Speaker 3: like tape it over. I had to put a blanket
Speaker 3: over all my unities and my bras because I don't
Speaker 3: know if I spoke about some on the show, but
Speaker 3: my Lululemon leggings got stolen out of the communal washing machine.
Speaker 3: The other day, I came back to click my stuff.
Speaker 3: Someone's taking my lou lemon legging no way, so targeted,
Speaker 3: really scary stuff. And yeah, it was like a very
Speaker 3: violating experience. Anyway, got back that evening, took all my
Speaker 3: stuff out, and the next day I went to put
Speaker 3: my perfume on.
Speaker 2: Perfumes are missing from the inspection.
Speaker 3: From the inspection, shut up, freaking out. It's the Saint
Speaker 3: James one.
Speaker 2: I really like this.
Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing. I freaked out, and I
Speaker 3: had a big day this day that I found out.
Speaker 3: On the Sunday, I was working all day, really stress full.
Speaker 3: I come home and I realized later I'd put them
Speaker 3: under some other clothes.
Speaker 2: Oh, in anticipation, that's okay, okay, but I felt frustrated.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call the manager. I was going full Karen
Speaker 3: until I realized my error of my wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah it happened. Though, the idea of going into a
Speaker 2: house inspection of a currently occupied house is so apocalyptic
Speaker 2: to me. I've done that one time, maybe like seven
Speaker 2: eight years ago. Now. It was in Glebe. Not only
Speaker 2: was somebody occupying that property was still sleeping and it
Speaker 2: was like I had to be one of twenty people
Speaker 2: going up this small, tiny, one bedroom terror situation, Like
Speaker 2: you had to duck together the can. I were asleep
Speaker 2: in bed. They are whole sleeping, had no people. I
Speaker 2: felt like we were all Simms who were on free
Speaker 2: will MO but didn't know what to do because when
Speaker 2: we got to like the thoroughfare, we were just like
Speaker 2: just pivoting on our own access because we were like,
Speaker 2: there's nowhere else to look. It was so bad the
Speaker 2: sims in the house. It was just super scary. So
Speaker 2: never again. There has to be better rules for that. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I think there needs to be like a separate avenue
Speaker 2: of real estate that's accommodating for the fact that some
Speaker 2: people work full time hours and some people aren't comfortable
Speaker 2: with you just like putting their house on display. I
Speaker 2: think sometimes it does the house too much justice to
Speaker 2: have persons pre existing surgniture and stuff in there when
Speaker 2: selling it to a new person, Like I can't see
Speaker 2: the mold from behind the lallabo perfume.
Speaker 3: I know I'm bumming the price up with my items.
Speaker 2: Have they raised the price?
Speaker 3: Yes, gone up seventy dollars a week what Yeah, heavy
Speaker 3: to be glad to get you out of there, Oh
Speaker 3: for sure. And I'm a little bit of it, you know.
Speaker 3: I'm a current dishwashers are broken. Yeah, mold needs to
Speaker 3: be wiped. The most mind thing. I'm saying an email
Speaker 3: immediately so I will keep you updated with my next
Speaker 3: house move. I've got my two housemates prepared. We're currently
Speaker 3: on the lookout if anybody knows any good three person
Speaker 3: houses going.
Speaker 1: Flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: It has been a wayward desert apocalyptic mess in my
Speaker 2: DM's the last couple of weeks. It started with people
Speaker 2: speculating that I live in a windowless luxury apartment. That hit.
Speaker 2: That was a strange one, but I think it's set
Speaker 2: the tone for what's to come, which is suspicions that
Speaker 2: I flex influencer police, anonymous Instagram account celebspell check whoa
Speaker 2: big accusation. Do I know where it's coming from? Not quite.
Speaker 2: I did receive a message out of the blue, and
Speaker 2: I emphasized that because a lot of the people that
Speaker 2: I interact with on Instagram are people that have had
Speaker 2: a previous conversation with me. Because I try and you know,
Speaker 2: keep active, I want to respond to things if you're
Speaker 2: talking to me, I want to talk back to you.
Speaker 2: So it is very odd when someone is not a
Speaker 2: new follower but they've never messaged me before. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what's that about?
Speaker 3: What would be doing?
Speaker 2: Either? Ops? Anyway, this person messages me, are you slip
Speaker 2: spell check out of the blue, I'm thinking what I do?
Speaker 2: What signs are there? Now? You have to understand influencers
Speaker 2: broadly don't like slap spell check because they point out
Speaker 2: your typos, your inconsistencies, maybe the contradictions and what you
Speaker 2: said last week to this week, maybe the fact that
Speaker 2: you might have roasted that brand before you did the
Speaker 2: sponsor post. It's all up with the receipts, with the
Speaker 2: dates sledspell Check has been called out so many times
Speaker 2: by influence appears a ton of times, and people say
Speaker 2: sleves spell check is a bully, or they're you know,
Speaker 2: not being fair, or they're targeting particular people, or you know,
Speaker 2: they're painting influencers with a broad brushstroke or whatever it
Speaker 2: might be, or just maybe being a bit too nitpicky
Speaker 2: and creating an environment that's hostile and encouraging other people
Speaker 2: to also continued that behavior. It's neither here nor there,
Speaker 2: but the fact that people think it's me Number one,
Speaker 2: I won't deny it. Okay, I'm not gonna deny it,
Speaker 2: because now that I'm looking at it, I'm seeing some similarities.
Speaker 2: It could be me, could not be me. For all
Speaker 2: intents and purposes. If you have positive associations with the account,
Speaker 2: just say it's me. If it's negative, just leave it.
Speaker 2: Who did people guess? Because then you put it on
Speaker 2: your box? Who else could spellcheck be? So I did
Speaker 2: ask the Internet who they thought spell check was. If
Speaker 2: it's not going to be me, there were speculations that
Speaker 2: it just has to be some random girl who works
Speaker 2: in pr who has enough intel to know behind the
Speaker 2: scenes of influencer stuff and who has incentive to be
Speaker 2: so across everything like that. It's highly likely that they
Speaker 2: have a job where they have to monitor influencer behavior
Speaker 2: and that's why they're very quick to catch on to it.
Speaker 2: It must be someone who has aspirations of being an
Speaker 2: influencer and in doing so up this weird parasocial kind
Speaker 2: of like symbiotic relationship with them, where like you're not
Speaker 2: part of them, but you are among them. And then,
Speaker 2: oddly enough, the first non random person suggestion was you,
Speaker 2: and I was like, is that just like a brand
Speaker 2: association thing? Like now that we've said flex, you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: it must be rooms people, said Melissa Mason, who currently
Speaker 2: works at.
Speaker 3: L I think she's a freelancer. Yeah, but she's a writer.
Speaker 2: We used to rights a fashion journal, rights a pedestrian.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's a good one. Zara McDonald from Shameless podcast.
Speaker 2: That was one that came up quite a bit. These
Speaker 2: are all good guesses, but I think that, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't want to give way too much now, so
Speaker 2: I'm gonna set out other names. I'm going to stop there.
Speaker 2: They were. Look, I think the thing that I found
Speaker 2: really interesting is that not only were there other names,
Speaker 2: but slept spell check did go on private since your posts. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they do that every now and then. But I
Speaker 2: think they don't want to be found out because there
Speaker 2: was a time where Slove spell Check aka Flex had
Speaker 2: to deactivate for a couple of months because I got
Speaker 2: a bit too hectic. I did touch briefly on the
Speaker 2: fact that slip spell check did have to deactivate Instagram again,
Speaker 2: and I could imagine it's for a number of reasons
Speaker 2: that we will not know about I do remember them
Speaker 2: doxing influences for doing drugs, and then that kind of
Speaker 2: blew up in a weird way because it's like one
Speaker 2: thing for you to incriminate yourself accidentally and delete it,
Speaker 2: but then it gets amplified by this account who tags
Speaker 2: more people, and they tag more people, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I also think that what started off as being like
Speaker 2: a fun place actually got to be quite like toxic,
Speaker 2: dangerous or whatever. But it's because people don't know how
Speaker 2: to self regulate. From my understanding, spell check provides the entertainment.
Speaker 2: You take it to your private spaces, have a bit
Speaker 2: of a giggle. It started getting real like Lord of
Speaker 2: the Flies and the comments there, people you know, being like,
Speaker 2: oh check my DM, I've got more gossip for you,
Speaker 2: or like adding in flavor, or like I used to
Speaker 2: go to high school with this person, I've got more information.
Speaker 2: It was like very convenient pylons. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I would feel better or worse about it if I
Speaker 2: wasn't so tied to it, like I've not been on
Speaker 2: the page. I don't imagine I know anyone who's really
Speaker 2: been on the page very often, So it's not like
Speaker 2: close to me, but I do think it's very tricky.
Speaker 2: When you decide to play Judge and Durik, you gotta
Speaker 2: accept the responsibility. You can't just back down when it
Speaker 2: gets too hectic, when people like you're responsible for platforming comments.
Speaker 2: And I think celeb cell check was like nah, baby, like,
Speaker 2: I didn't sign up for this, but I remember when
Speaker 2: they diactuated. They made a post and said it was
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. This account has become too big,
Speaker 2: too powerful, and too time consuming for me to enjoy
Speaker 2: running it anymore. There is no scandalous reason behind this decision.
Speaker 2: I'm not being threatened or sued or controlled in any way.
Speaker 2: I'll be permanently deleting the account tomorrow. Thank you so
Speaker 2: much to everyone who has followed and supported the page.
Speaker 2: Then they did, but then twenty twenty two when they're back, it's.
Speaker 3: A new celeb spell check, because it could have been
Speaker 3: different people the whole time. I have a big fat
Speaker 3: bone to pick with celeb Spellcheck.
Speaker 2: I really don't like it.
Speaker 3: I've never liked it, never had an interest in following it.
Speaker 3: I think it's gross, I think it's boring. I think
Speaker 3: they pick on women.
Speaker 2: I know that like in.
Speaker 3: Australia there's more female influencers than men influencers, supposedly. It
Speaker 3: really riles me up. That whole page and that whole concept.
Speaker 3: I just I think what you're saying about it becoming dangerous.
Speaker 3: I think it is dangerous. I think about it from
Speaker 3: my own perspective of like, I'm such a sensitive person
Speaker 3: that if I was ever on that page it would
Speaker 3: really really spin me out. And so I have so
Speaker 3: much respect for the people that have been targeted on
Speaker 3: it and are still okay and still do their job.
Speaker 3: Like I think people don't realize even if you're posting
Speaker 3: all the time, you're not a fair target. People aren't
Speaker 3: fair targets just because they're influencers and you're like, someone
Speaker 3: might do something that's really shit or offensive all this
Speaker 3: or that, but the punishment that they get from being
Speaker 3: on one of these pages, I don't know. It just
Speaker 3: really hits me in the wrong spot. Slow spell check.
Speaker 2: Do you think there was ever a time where it
Speaker 2: was just and it's spiraled out of control or the
Speaker 2: fundamentals of it you're not interested in.
Speaker 3: At the very start, that was funny because it was
Speaker 3: what it said, it was celeb Spellcheck.
Speaker 2: But then it just was calling out typos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just came dosing, like particularly women influencers, beauty influencers,
Speaker 3: and it's just an opportunity to pylon for people to
Speaker 3: be sending sensitive information. Like I'm getting angry thinking about it,
Speaker 3: and I'm not even in the remit, Like I don't
Speaker 3: think I would ever make the page, but it's still
Speaker 3: I could never support that. I don't even like jimmu
Speaker 3: or whatever. Dum dumoi M do you seem fine with it?
Speaker 3: Like what's your I'm annoying because I can't articulate what
Speaker 3: it is, what you don't like about it? Yeah, like
Speaker 3: I can't get into words right now.
Speaker 2: I think, like a lot of things, it's sort of
Speaker 2: like it's conceived from a necessary place, like the influencer
Speaker 2: media landscape is a media landscape. I think we should
Speaker 2: be able to have access to it as we would
Speaker 2: with any kind of celebrity or entertainment news. I think
Speaker 2: that's quite fun and funny. But I think if Celeb's
Speaker 2: spell Check existed without the ability for everyone to create
Speaker 2: commentary around it, it would be a far more fair place.
Speaker 2: But I think it's because what has happened is that
Speaker 2: slop spell check has created this really fertile ecosystem for
Speaker 2: everybody to do the most heinous things in that place,
Speaker 2: Like this is where we go to pylon to be rude,
Speaker 2: to call in, to call out, and people get high
Speaker 2: off like being part of something right, and so they
Speaker 2: don't know or they're not considering that, like is this
Speaker 2: the most appropriate place for this to happen? Is it necessary?
Speaker 2: Does the punishment fit the crime? You know? So on
Speaker 2: and so forth. But I also feel as though, like
Speaker 2: it is really interesting to see how influencers often respond
Speaker 2: when they see themselves reflected back at themselves. Like I
Speaker 2: think a lot of the time it's a one way
Speaker 2: conversation where they put stuff or where we put stuff
Speaker 2: into the ether with very little consideration for how it
Speaker 2: gets perceived outside. And sometimes I think slop spell check
Speaker 2: applies fresh eyes to a conversation. Like you know, you'll
Speaker 2: see posts of certain people like using their clout to
Speaker 2: call out a small business or something when it's like
Speaker 2: you knew the channels, like just go through an email,
Speaker 2: go through something else. It's like you obviously know that,
Speaker 2: Like you have the privilege to do that, But what
Speaker 2: is the consequence of doing so. I think a lot
Speaker 2: of us influencers or operate with no consequence for anything,
Speaker 2: And I think the solution is not a celeb spell check.
Speaker 2: The solution is not having a bunch of people on
Speaker 2: the internet nitpick at you for every minor thing that
Speaker 2: you do. But it is also interesting seeing like when
Speaker 2: there is no sheriff on town, like how does like
Speaker 2: a punitive system evolve and how does it get addressed?
Speaker 2: It's very fascinating. I find. Well.
Speaker 3: The other day, I like, my local post office is
Speaker 3: so busy, and I walked up the other like there
Speaker 3: was a massive line, but I walked the side bit,
Speaker 3: which is like deliveries and pickups, thinking it was like
Speaker 3: a different alternative way, and I rock up and she's
Speaker 3: like you need to be in the line, like what
Speaker 3: are you doing? And I'd walk past everyone and I
Speaker 3: walked out thinking, holy fuck, it looks like I think
Speaker 3: I'm like eating up the line, which like maybe subconsciously
Speaker 3: I was. It was the weirdest. It's like when you
Speaker 3: do something and then you think about it later and
Speaker 3: you think, what the that was so crazy that I did?
Speaker 2: That was I thinking when you name check yourself it's
Speaker 2: from Okay, so them actually Radio presence sucked up.
Speaker 3: But there was one final thing I wanted to say
Speaker 3: about that. The difference between that and entertainment sites is
Speaker 3: that up until you know, five years ago, you had
Speaker 3: to put your name too a story. So when I
Speaker 3: used to work in this kind of shit and I
Speaker 3: would write about people, I tried to never do it
Speaker 3: because I was just not interested. But when I ever
Speaker 3: did have to write something that was like a little
Speaker 3: bit on the nose about what an influence I had did,
Speaker 3: I just take my name out of it and put
Speaker 3: written by like whatever the place I worked for was.
Speaker 3: And it was just such a fucking cop out. Like
Speaker 3: if you work in media and you're not willing to
Speaker 3: put your name to something, that's calling someone else out,
Speaker 3: Like you have a duty of care as slab spell check,
Speaker 3: as the writer of the thing. Like you are also
Speaker 3: operating in the ecosystem and adding your two cents, so
Speaker 3: you should also be able to be ripped. We've seen
Speaker 3: it when journalists have added people or done the xyz xyz,
Speaker 3: they do get ripped. But I think, yeah, if you're
Speaker 3: playing in that space. All that said, I don't want
Speaker 3: to do la la la, la la. I just want
Speaker 3: to live in a fun world, not interested in any drama.
Speaker 2: Let's chill and be vibes.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms on da.
Speaker 2: Like I have said time and time again, my dms
Speaker 2: are a wayward place. You don't know what you're gonna
Speaker 2: find when you open one up. What's the worst thing? Ah?
Speaker 2: Just like really racially insensitive stuff, but like virtue signally,
Speaker 2: Like my boyfriend says that insert ethnic group are insert slur?
Speaker 2: But like is he racist? My babies? Please delete me,
Speaker 2: please unfollow delete And then people drive the list Twilight memes,
Speaker 2: but the movie came out ten years ago. I've seen
Speaker 2: every meme, I promise you. Then there's this like viral
Speaker 2: footbear that everyone wants to send me. I promise you
Speaker 2: I've seen it. But every now and then we get
Speaker 2: a gem like today, this person Charlotte asked me this
Speaker 2: question to post to you his first name. Okay, that's
Speaker 2: a nice little tree. You know. I didn't do. I
Speaker 2: got a full name here, and I avoided saying it anyway.
Speaker 2: I digress. Would you rather live in a world where
Speaker 2: public space doesn't exist or where private space doesn't exist? Who? Wash?
Speaker 2: Then she goes on to say, for a bit of
Speaker 2: an explanation, I thought of the world where public space
Speaker 2: not existing, being similar to the COVID world in the
Speaker 2: sense that everyone would have their own homes private space,
Speaker 2: and they would only be able to invite people into
Speaker 2: their space if they wanted to. In addition, public space
Speaker 2: is such as stadiums, parks, restaurants, bars, clubs, airports, train
Speaker 2: stations wouldn't exist. Would also maybe encourage private forms of
Speaker 2: interacting with space, such as like a walking, cycling, or
Speaker 2: driving alone. I then thought of a world with no
Speaker 2: private space, being a bit like one big commune where
Speaker 2: everyone has designated spaces of living and working, but anyone
Speaker 2: could enter your space at any time vice versa. You
Speaker 2: could travel anywhere, and cool places such as museums, private attractions, palaces, houses,
Speaker 2: gardens would be accessible to everyone. WHOA isn't that hectic?
Speaker 2: Like my brain, All the little gremlins in my brain
Speaker 2: are like, okay, inspiring quick quick, rubbing their hands together.
Speaker 2: This is a real doozy. Please answer for me.
Speaker 3: So I believe this is really just asking would you
Speaker 3: rather live in a socialist society or a capitalist society?
Speaker 3: I mean private social being the public in that everyone
Speaker 3: can go to any space. Everyone can go to a castle,
Speaker 3: a museum, da da da private like because think about it,
Speaker 3: if the private space thing is true and you're really rich,
Speaker 3: it'd be amazing because you've got your whole big thing. Personally,
Speaker 3: I'm going with the private space, all privates, no public spaces,
Speaker 3: purely because of the Internet, and also because I like
Speaker 3: having my things, Oh my little sacred space. I want
Speaker 3: to put the lock on my door. I don't want
Speaker 3: anyone bursting into any given time. Sure does that mean
Speaker 3: all spontaneity will be sucked from my life?
Speaker 2: And so be it? So be it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be chilling. It's COVID two point zero. I've
Speaker 3: got my little family in my house. You know, might
Speaker 3: get some lonely tough times, but then you just go
Speaker 3: on neopets or what not.
Speaker 2: Exactly. I was so tempted to answer aspirationally and say, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, be so good, have all spaces be public.
Speaker 2: But I'm only thinking about the good things that would
Speaker 2: come from that, Like oh, it's like everything goes like
Speaker 2: a party and like you never feel alone. But realistically,
Speaker 2: how life is built up now for me, I kind
Speaker 2: of like having my own space, my own things, and
Speaker 2: the option to opt in and out of being in
Speaker 2: other people's spaces and things. There's something all about like
Speaker 2: individual responsibility of your stuff as well. Oh it was
Speaker 2: I remember thinking about when Sydney in particular got electric
Speaker 2: bikes and it was meant to be this amazing thing
Speaker 2: for all all of us to use and enjoy and
Speaker 2: to take care of. And almost immediately why they're being
Speaker 2: thrown into the water, like this is why we can't
Speaker 2: have nice things. This is why I like to go
Speaker 2: out and buy my own electric bike because I wouldn'
Speaker 2: couldn't jump on a line with a broken seat. Again,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to do that. So private space is
Speaker 2: only wow. I mean, it might start charging door fee
Speaker 2: to come.
Speaker 3: Into your house when you even have your dinner party.
Speaker 2: Have me over, it's coming, babe, please, I'm still waiting
Speaker 2: for four O the dining chairs. Damn.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms, so.
Speaker 3: FLEXI as you know, I'm a tight ass.
Speaker 2: I'm learning that about you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just is what I am. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: grow out of it. I'm sure when I never come forward,
Speaker 3: I'm going to be more chill. But right now, the
Speaker 3: pennies be pinching. Well, it's good, and so therefore I
Speaker 3: have only one subscription service.
Speaker 2: That's oh no, that's not true.
Speaker 3: I have a few subscription services, but one of them
Speaker 3: that I've recently got, begrudgingly, of course, is Binge.
Speaker 2: Why begrudgingly? I don't like paying for things.
Speaker 3: Got it just by the fact that I work in
Speaker 3: industry where people need to pay for things in order
Speaker 3: to pay the creators. I'm out here wanting the freest experience.
Speaker 2: Possible, and you won't go out of your way to
Speaker 2: fish a log in from a friend or Oh I've
Speaker 2: done a.
Speaker 3: Bit of that. I'm on the family account for Netflix.
Speaker 3: I get course and double with Stan. But I just thought, yep,
Speaker 3: I've got to bite the bullet and get Binge.
Speaker 2: It's so funny.
Speaker 3: I live in a world where I think that I'm
Speaker 3: maintain and I can't afford things.
Speaker 2: Literally, you've got the budget if they you can accommodate.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I download a Binge because I wanted to
Speaker 3: watch American horror stories because my sister Olivia.
Speaker 2: Just the way that you said that American horror I'm like,
Speaker 2: is that a pun?
Speaker 3: No, that's just a type over the brain. My sister
Speaker 3: loves it. When I was in Melbourne last so I've
Speaker 3: just spoken about on the podcast, we spent two days
Speaker 3: in bed watching American horror stories. It was like a
Speaker 3: fever dream and I've been hooked ever since. And anyway,
Speaker 3: log onto Binge the other day and I see they've
Speaker 3: got Insight.
Speaker 2: Yes, show on a Binge, Like, what the hell? What
Speaker 2: is this?
Speaker 3: Cross pollination? Obviously I watched Examination more like it? Ya,
Speaker 3: how does that even work? I'm not sure because I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure Binge is foxtail. Whatever it is, I'm happy
Speaker 3: for them to be yeating on each other. This episode
Speaker 3: of Insight, I'd had my eye on it for a
Speaker 3: few weeks months and I hadn't gotten around to watching it.
Speaker 3: It was called Reputation Rebuilt.
Speaker 2: Have you heard of this? No, I've heard of reputation rehab.
Speaker 3: Different, different, So this was an Insight.
Speaker 2: Do you know what Inside is? Yeah, but I haven't
Speaker 2: watched it. It's like four Corners.
Speaker 3: It's a live studio audience with the host who brings
Speaker 3: a topic. So this topic was when people's reputation is
Speaker 3: dragged through the mud, how do you repair? Yeah, the
Speaker 3: people that they had on were super super interesting. For example,
Speaker 3: it was mel Greek who was the dj emboiled in
Speaker 3: the royal prank called Scandal. Obviously her life was really
Speaker 3: changed by what happened. She was so brave to come
Speaker 3: on the show and talk about her. I think she's amazing.
Speaker 3: Like I walked away from watching that wanting to DM
Speaker 3: her and just be like, you are amazing.
Speaker 2: There's still time. Yeah, I don't know. It really hit me,
Speaker 2: but yees.
Speaker 3: Essentially, people came on and the host would play a
Speaker 3: little snippet of whatever they did. So there was another
Speaker 3: guy that owned a few cafes and abused one of
Speaker 3: the workers because they weren't working. They played that tape
Speaker 3: in front of the audience. But it got me thinking.
Speaker 3: Let's say you your reputation was dragged through the mud,
Speaker 3: and you're a malgreg and you've worked for twenty years
Speaker 3: in the industry, got your dream job, and then you
Speaker 3: do something that goes catastrophizingly wrong.
Speaker 2: MM, how would you react? I have no idea because
Speaker 2: I can imagine for a lot of what I see
Speaker 2: people get canceled for. It is stuff that could have
Speaker 2: been remedied by either doubling down and being like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: you didn't misunderstand me like I meant what I said,
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of that missing when people get
Speaker 2: you know, called out or called in for having an
Speaker 2: opinion that doesn't match with the norm. And it's like
Speaker 2: the canceling gets more and more intense when you backtrack
Speaker 2: and say, well, I didn't know what I meant, or
Speaker 2: I never meant to say that, or that's not how
Speaker 2: it came acros. You rarely see a double downer being
Speaker 2: like no, no, no, I said it, And here is
Speaker 2: me elaborating on why I think that way. I think
Speaker 2: there's not enough room for that. And secondly, I can
Speaker 2: imagine a lot of what goes wrong when someone gets
Speaker 2: canceled is they rush to remedy it. And with most things,
Speaker 2: it's gonna take time time for you to understand what
Speaker 2: went wrong, time for you to understand how much this
Speaker 2: is going to escalate before you jump in and decide
Speaker 2: to like stop the train on its tracks, before it's
Speaker 2: gotten to the stop all of those things. I feel
Speaker 2: as though, knowing the way that the internet works now,
Speaker 2: it's silence time and actual retrospection that is going to
Speaker 2: get you through it, because when people rush to address things.
Speaker 2: It's like we don't even know the full story yet,
Speaker 2: and something you're telling me that you're sorry, Hold on
Speaker 2: a second. Sometimes you don't need to provide context because
Speaker 2: a lot of what happens on the internet is wilful ignorance,
Speaker 2: people choosing not to see that this could be interpreted
Speaker 2: in a way that isn't offensive. What do you think
Speaker 2: it'd be canceled for? Because that's the thing that I
Speaker 2: can't get past them. Like I've already set myself up.
Speaker 2: I'm like not going to be a virtuous person. I'm
Speaker 2: one degree away from problematic. Like I've spent how many
Speaker 2: years on the Internet saying what I think because I
Speaker 2: think it? What are we going to do about it? Now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know in your peripheries.
Speaker 2: That sounds really scary. Let's stop talking about that.
Speaker 3: No, but you should definitely watch it, very interesting viewing.
Speaker 2: Insight on your eyes, getting minicle watching. Let's plan a practice. No,
Speaker 2: it's not in my reality, we're not doing that.
Speaker 1: You're listening to flex and frooms on KA.
Speaker 2: I come bearing some good news though, which is a rare,
Speaker 2: rare treat. But Scotland has just recently announced a two
Speaker 2: year rent freeze in response to what they're saying is
Speaker 2: a humanitarian crisis due to the cost of living. So
Speaker 2: for two years, no rents can be increased, which is
Speaker 2: amazing and obviously like landlords are not happy about it,
Speaker 2: but you know, it's neither here nor there, which reminds
Speaker 2: me that a couple of months ago, the Greens proposed
Speaker 2: a rent freeze. I'm not sure what the progresses with that,
Speaker 2: but imagine I was, I don't want to rent freeze.
Speaker 2: I want to rent reduction. I want a rent reduction.
Speaker 3: Also, I was having a conversation the other day with
Speaker 3: our friend Mickey b Yeah, and I was like, oh, like,
Speaker 3: would you buy an investment property?
Speaker 2: Dah da da. He's like, I don't believe in investment properties.
Speaker 2: Like what do you mean?
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't believe in houses is investments or
Speaker 3: places to keep your money because it totally fudges with
Speaker 3: the inflation of other properties.
Speaker 2: I had never even thought of it like that.
Speaker 3: I just thought, like, literally, our properties up, but I
Speaker 3: didn't realize, oh my god, that means it's actually worse
Speaker 3: for all of us. I know that's basic societal you
Speaker 3: know knowledge, but it's basic economics.
Speaker 2: But it's important because it's the same way how everyone's like,
Speaker 2: get a house, is it an investment? Like, yeah, if
Speaker 2: you can sell it, but if none of us can
Speaker 2: afford to buy them, then what kind of investment? Is it?
Speaker 2: Not good? It's not great. But that's how they kind
Speaker 2: of get you, like, we've created this corrupt We're not created,
Speaker 2: but we perpetuate a corrupt system. That means that, you know,
Speaker 2: my personal advancement is on the back of somebody else's
Speaker 2: displacement or disadvancement.
Speaker 3: Quite literal displacement. Yeah, scary vibes.
Speaker 2: It's not hot.
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