WEBVTT - Is Flex Actually Celeb Spellcheck? 📷👸🎥

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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Rooms Daily podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>The Millennial pause like it's an inhale. It's the inhale,

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<v Speaker 2>lean back lipsmack enter, I'll do it. Hello everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so like self congratulatory, like circle jerk.

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<v Speaker 2>Or wang vibes.

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<v Speaker 3>But alas today we're talking about celeb spell check.

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<v Speaker 2>I let my feelings be known, which I always love

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from. You get unabashed passion.

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<v Speaker 3>Amped up about the most pointless of social issues, celeb

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<v Speaker 3>spell check. If you're listening to this, which I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>you are, no shade. You know you're doing this for

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<v Speaker 3>a reason. It started out really fun. Am I a

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<v Speaker 3>fan of it? Now? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I look at your stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I don't because I don't want to perpetuate bullying

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<v Speaker 3>of any kind. I think bullies are silly and things

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<v Speaker 3>come back. You know, calmer exists.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still down for bullyings, so light and shade, light

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<v Speaker 2>and shade. No, I just want to be in a utopia.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, we're trying to get to the bottom of who

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<v Speaker 3>the heck celeb Spelchick is. If you are following flex

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<v Speaker 3>Bummy on Instagram, you'll have seen that somebody DMed her

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<v Speaker 3>a proposition about potentially who could it be a proposition?

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<v Speaker 2>Not quite, but I get what you're saying anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>So as I listened back to the podcast and realize

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<v Speaker 3>we're using words in the wrong context, we yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>think about what you said.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll dox you next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had an open for inspection occur in my

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<v Speaker 3>rental property on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Had you like taken everything out or as is? Strangers

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<v Speaker 2>were allowed to come into your occupied place temporarily to

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<v Speaker 2>have a quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Look fifteen minutes in the house unsupervised wool. As you

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<v Speaker 3>can imagine, this was a stressful situation to find myself in.

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<v Speaker 3>I am scared of people looking through my staff.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you linger out the front? Was there a big line?

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<v Speaker 3>So there was two inspections earlier though it was another

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<v Speaker 3>on Thursday, and I hung out the front so I'd

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<v Speaker 3>live in an area which like wouldn't be weird for

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<v Speaker 3>me to hang out the front.

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<v Speaker 2>You're scaring the hose, babe, Get out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>The inspection was at eleven thirty five, and I walked

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<v Speaker 3>out of the house of eleven thirty old. Better yeat

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<v Speaker 3>out before everyone arrives. I walk out of my front door,

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<v Speaker 3>all down the stairs people oops, And I had to

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<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, hey, it's a great place, you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to really love it. I almost considered, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's a fudge ton of mold in the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 3>but I thought I'll hold.

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<v Speaker 2>A little treat for them to find out when they

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<v Speaker 2>finally so.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to see who went to and fro then

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<v Speaker 3>and it kind of gave me hope, like everyone looked

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<v Speaker 3>pretty legit. But then on the Saturday, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>real heathen day, I was out looking at a different house.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was doing an open for inspection or crossing,

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<v Speaker 3>which was in the same situation as me. Obviously, three

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<v Speaker 3>women had lived there, all of their stuff everywhere, retainers

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<v Speaker 3>on the nightstand. It was like, if you ever think

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<v Speaker 3>that your life isn't original, go to an open house

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<v Speaker 3>where everyone's shit is everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to do all kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to lock up my bedside table with tape,

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<v Speaker 3>like tape it over. I had to put a blanket

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<v Speaker 3>over all my unities and my bras because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if I spoke about some on the show, but

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<v Speaker 3>my Lululemon leggings got stolen out of the communal washing machine.

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<v Speaker 3>The other day, I came back to click my stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone's taking my lou lemon legging no way, so targeted,

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<v Speaker 3>really scary stuff. And yeah, it was like a very

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<v Speaker 3>violating experience. Anyway, got back that evening, took all my

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<v Speaker 3>stuff out, and the next day I went to put

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<v Speaker 3>my perfume on.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfumes are missing from the inspection.

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<v Speaker 3>From the inspection, shut up, freaking out. It's the Saint

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<v Speaker 3>James one.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is the thing. I freaked out, and I

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<v Speaker 3>had a big day this day that I found out.

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<v Speaker 3>On the Sunday, I was working all day, really stress full.

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<v Speaker 3>I come home and I realized later I'd put them

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<v Speaker 3>under some other clothes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, in anticipation, that's okay, okay, but I felt frustrated.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna call the manager. I was going full Karen

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<v Speaker 3>until I realized my error of my wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it happened. Though, the idea of going into a

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<v Speaker 2>house inspection of a currently occupied house is so apocalyptic

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<v Speaker 2>to me. I've done that one time, maybe like seven

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<v Speaker 2>eight years ago. Now. It was in Glebe. Not only

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<v Speaker 2>was somebody occupying that property was still sleeping and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like I had to be one of twenty people

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<v Speaker 2>going up this small, tiny, one bedroom terror situation, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you had to duck together the can. I were asleep

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<v Speaker 2>in bed. They are whole sleeping, had no people. I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like we were all Simms who were on free

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<v Speaker 2>will MO but didn't know what to do because when

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<v Speaker 2>we got to like the thoroughfare, we were just like

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<v Speaker 2>just pivoting on our own access because we were like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's nowhere else to look. It was so bad the

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<v Speaker 2>sims in the house. It was just super scary. So

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<v Speaker 2>never again. There has to be better rules for that. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there needs to be like a separate avenue

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<v Speaker 2>of real estate that's accommodating for the fact that some

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<v Speaker 2>people work full time hours and some people aren't comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>with you just like putting their house on display. I

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<v Speaker 2>think sometimes it does the house too much justice to

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<v Speaker 2>have persons pre existing surgniture and stuff in there when

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<v Speaker 2>selling it to a new person, Like I can't see

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<v Speaker 2>the mold from behind the lallabo perfume.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I'm bumming the price up with my items.

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<v Speaker 2>Have they raised the price?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, gone up seventy dollars a week what Yeah, heavy

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<v Speaker 3>to be glad to get you out of there, Oh

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<v Speaker 3>for sure. And I'm a little bit of it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a current dishwashers are broken. Yeah, mold needs to

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<v Speaker 3>be wiped. The most mind thing. I'm saying an email

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<v Speaker 3>immediately so I will keep you updated with my next

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<v Speaker 3>house move. I've got my two housemates prepared. We're currently

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<v Speaker 3>on the lookout if anybody knows any good three person

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<v Speaker 3>houses going.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been a wayward desert apocalyptic mess in my

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<v Speaker 2>DM's the last couple of weeks. It started with people

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<v Speaker 2>speculating that I live in a windowless luxury apartment. That hit.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a strange one, but I think it's set

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<v Speaker 2>the tone for what's to come, which is suspicions that

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<v Speaker 2>I flex influencer police, anonymous Instagram account celebspell check whoa

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<v Speaker 2>big accusation. Do I know where it's coming from? Not quite.

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<v Speaker 2>I did receive a message out of the blue, and

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<v Speaker 2>I emphasized that because a lot of the people that

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<v Speaker 2>I interact with on Instagram are people that have had

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<v Speaker 2>a previous conversation with me. Because I try and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>keep active, I want to respond to things if you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking to me, I want to talk back to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is very odd when someone is not a

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<v Speaker 2>new follower but they've never messaged me before. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's that about?

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<v Speaker 3>What would be doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Either? Ops? Anyway, this person messages me, are you slip

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<v Speaker 2>spell check out of the blue, I'm thinking what I do?

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<v Speaker 2>What signs are there? Now? You have to understand influencers

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<v Speaker 2>broadly don't like slap spell check because they point out

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<v Speaker 2>your typos, your inconsistencies, maybe the contradictions and what you

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<v Speaker 2>said last week to this week, maybe the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you might have roasted that brand before you did the

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<v Speaker 2>sponsor post. It's all up with the receipts, with the

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<v Speaker 2>dates sledspell Check has been called out so many times

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<v Speaker 2>by influence appears a ton of times, and people say

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<v Speaker 2>sleves spell check is a bully, or they're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not being fair, or they're targeting particular people, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're painting influencers with a broad brushstroke or whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>might be, or just maybe being a bit too nitpicky

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<v Speaker 2>and creating an environment that's hostile and encouraging other people

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<v Speaker 2>to also continued that behavior. It's neither here nor there,

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<v Speaker 2>but the fact that people think it's me Number one,

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<v Speaker 2>I won't deny it. Okay, I'm not gonna deny it,

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<v Speaker 2>because now that I'm looking at it, I'm seeing some similarities.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be me, could not be me. For all

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<v Speaker 2>intents and purposes. If you have positive associations with the account,

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<v Speaker 2>just say it's me. If it's negative, just leave it.

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<v Speaker 2>Who did people guess? Because then you put it on

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<v Speaker 2>your box? Who else could spellcheck be? So I did

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<v Speaker 2>ask the Internet who they thought spell check was. If

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be me, there were speculations that

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<v Speaker 2>it just has to be some random girl who works

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<v Speaker 2>in pr who has enough intel to know behind the

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<v Speaker 2>scenes of influencer stuff and who has incentive to be

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<v Speaker 2>so across everything like that. It's highly likely that they

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<v Speaker 2>have a job where they have to monitor influencer behavior

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why they're very quick to catch on to it.

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<v Speaker 2>It must be someone who has aspirations of being an

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<v Speaker 2>influencer and in doing so up this weird parasocial kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like symbiotic relationship with them, where like you're not

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<v Speaker 2>part of them, but you are among them. And then,

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<v Speaker 2>oddly enough, the first non random person suggestion was you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, is that just like a brand

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<v Speaker 2>association thing? Like now that we've said flex, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it must be rooms people, said Melissa Mason, who currently

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<v Speaker 2>works at.

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<v Speaker 3>L I think she's a freelancer. Yeah, but she's a writer.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to rights a fashion journal, rights a pedestrian.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's a good one. Zara McDonald from Shameless podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one that came up quite a bit. These

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<v Speaker 2>are all good guesses, but I think that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to give way too much now, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna set out other names. I'm going to stop there.

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<v Speaker 2>They were. Look, I think the thing that I found

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting is that not only were there other names,

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<v Speaker 2>but slept spell check did go on private since your posts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and they do that every now and then. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think they don't want to be found out because there

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<v Speaker 2>was a time where Slove spell Check aka Flex had

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<v Speaker 2>to deactivate for a couple of months because I got

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<v Speaker 2>a bit too hectic. I did touch briefly on the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that slip spell check did have to deactivate Instagram again,

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<v Speaker 2>and I could imagine it's for a number of reasons

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<v Speaker 2>that we will not know about I do remember them

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<v Speaker 2>doxing influences for doing drugs, and then that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>blew up in a weird way because it's like one

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<v Speaker 2>thing for you to incriminate yourself accidentally and delete it,

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<v Speaker 2>but then it gets amplified by this account who tags

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<v Speaker 2>more people, and they tag more people, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think that what started off as being like

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<v Speaker 2>a fun place actually got to be quite like toxic,

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous or whatever. But it's because people don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to self regulate. From my understanding, spell check provides the entertainment.

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<v Speaker 2>You take it to your private spaces, have a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a giggle. It started getting real like Lord of

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<v Speaker 2>the Flies and the comments there, people you know, being like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh check my DM, I've got more gossip for you,

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<v Speaker 2>or like adding in flavor, or like I used to

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<v Speaker 2>go to high school with this person, I've got more information.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like very convenient pylons. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I would feel better or worse about it if I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't so tied to it, like I've not been on

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<v Speaker 2>the page. I don't imagine I know anyone who's really

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<v Speaker 2>been on the page very often, So it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>close to me, but I do think it's very tricky.

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<v Speaker 2>When you decide to play Judge and Durik, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>accept the responsibility. You can't just back down when it

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<v Speaker 2>gets too hectic, when people like you're responsible for platforming comments.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think celeb cell check was like nah, baby, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't sign up for this, but I remember when

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<v Speaker 2>they diactuated. They made a post and said it was

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty one. This account has become too big,

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<v Speaker 2>too powerful, and too time consuming for me to enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>running it anymore. There is no scandalous reason behind this decision.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not being threatened or sued or controlled in any way.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be permanently deleting the account tomorrow. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much to everyone who has followed and supported the page.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they did, but then twenty twenty two when they're back, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>A new celeb spell check, because it could have been

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<v Speaker 3>different people the whole time. I have a big fat

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<v Speaker 3>bone to pick with celeb Spellcheck.

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never liked it, never had an interest in following it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's gross, I think it's boring. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they pick on women.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that like in.

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<v Speaker 3>Australia there's more female influencers than men influencers, supposedly. It

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<v Speaker 3>really riles me up. That whole page and that whole concept.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I think what you're saying about it becoming dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is dangerous. I think about it from

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<v Speaker 3>my own perspective of like, I'm such a sensitive person

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<v Speaker 3>that if I was ever on that page it would

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<v Speaker 3>really really spin me out. And so I have so

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<v Speaker 3>much respect for the people that have been targeted on

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<v Speaker 3>it and are still okay and still do their job.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think people don't realize even if you're posting

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, you're not a fair target. People aren't

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<v Speaker 3>fair targets just because they're influencers and you're like, someone

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<v Speaker 3>might do something that's really shit or offensive all this

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<v Speaker 3>or that, but the punishment that they get from being

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<v Speaker 3>on one of these pages, I don't know. It just

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<v Speaker 3>really hits me in the wrong spot. Slow spell check.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there was ever a time where it

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<v Speaker 2>was just and it's spiraled out of control or the

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<v Speaker 2>fundamentals of it you're not interested in.

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<v Speaker 3>At the very start, that was funny because it was

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<v Speaker 3>what it said, it was celeb Spellcheck.

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<v Speaker 2>But then it just was calling out typos.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it just came dosing, like particularly women influencers, beauty influencers,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just an opportunity to pylon for people to

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<v Speaker 3>be sending sensitive information. Like I'm getting angry thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not even in the remit, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I would ever make the page, but it's still

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<v Speaker 3>I could never support that. I don't even like jimmu

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. Dum dumoi M do you seem fine with it?

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<v Speaker 3>Like what's your I'm annoying because I can't articulate what

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<v Speaker 3>it is, what you don't like about it? Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 3>I can't get into words right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like a lot of things, it's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like it's conceived from a necessary place, like the influencer

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<v Speaker 2>media landscape is a media landscape. I think we should

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<v Speaker 2>be able to have access to it as we would

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<v Speaker 2>with any kind of celebrity or entertainment news. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's quite fun and funny. But I think if Celeb's

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<v Speaker 2>spell Check existed without the ability for everyone to create

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<v Speaker 2>commentary around it, it would be a far more fair place.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's because what has happened is that

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<v Speaker 2>slop spell check has created this really fertile ecosystem for

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<v Speaker 2>everybody to do the most heinous things in that place,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is where we go to pylon to be rude,

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<v Speaker 2>to call in, to call out, and people get high

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<v Speaker 2>off like being part of something right, and so they

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<v Speaker 2>don't know or they're not considering that, like is this

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<v Speaker 2>the most appropriate place for this to happen? Is it necessary?

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<v Speaker 2>Does the punishment fit the crime? You know? So on

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<v Speaker 2>and so forth. But I also feel as though, like

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<v Speaker 2>it is really interesting to see how influencers often respond

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<v Speaker 2>when they see themselves reflected back at themselves. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of the time it's a one way

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<v Speaker 2>conversation where they put stuff or where we put stuff

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<v Speaker 2>into the ether with very little consideration for how it

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<v Speaker 2>gets perceived outside. And sometimes I think slop spell check

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<v Speaker 2>applies fresh eyes to a conversation. Like you know, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see posts of certain people like using their clout to

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<v Speaker 2>call out a small business or something when it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you knew the channels, like just go through an email,

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<v Speaker 2>go through something else. It's like you obviously know that,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you have the privilege to do that, But what

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<v Speaker 2>is the consequence of doing so. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of us influencers or operate with no consequence for anything,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the solution is not a celeb spell check.

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<v Speaker 2>The solution is not having a bunch of people on

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<v Speaker 2>the internet nitpick at you for every minor thing that

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<v Speaker 2>you do. But it is also interesting seeing like when

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<v Speaker 2>there is no sheriff on town, like how does like

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<v Speaker 2>a punitive system evolve and how does it get addressed?

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<v Speaker 2>It's very fascinating. I find. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>The other day, I like, my local post office is

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<v Speaker 3>so busy, and I walked up the other like there

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<v Speaker 3>was a massive line, but I walked the side bit,

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<v Speaker 3>which is like deliveries and pickups, thinking it was like

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<v Speaker 3>a different alternative way, and I rock up and she's

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<v Speaker 3>like you need to be in the line, like what

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<v Speaker 3>are you doing? And I'd walk past everyone and I

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<v Speaker 3>walked out thinking, holy fuck, it looks like I think

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like eating up the line, which like maybe subconsciously

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<v Speaker 3>I was. It was the weirdest. It's like when you

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<v Speaker 3>do something and then you think about it later and

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<v Speaker 3>you think, what the that was so crazy that I did?

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<v Speaker 2>That was I thinking when you name check yourself it's

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<v Speaker 2>from Okay, so them actually Radio presence sucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was one final thing I wanted to say

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<v Speaker 3>about that. The difference between that and entertainment sites is

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<v Speaker 3>that up until you know, five years ago, you had

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<v Speaker 3>to put your name too a story. So when I

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<v Speaker 3>used to work in this kind of shit and I

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<v Speaker 3>would write about people, I tried to never do it

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<v Speaker 3>because I was just not interested. But when I ever

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<v Speaker 3>did have to write something that was like a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit on the nose about what an influence I had did,

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<v Speaker 3>I just take my name out of it and put

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<v Speaker 3>written by like whatever the place I worked for was.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was just such a fucking cop out. Like

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<v Speaker 3>if you work in media and you're not willing to

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<v Speaker 3>put your name to something, that's calling someone else out,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you have a duty of care as slab spell check,

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<v Speaker 3>as the writer of the thing. Like you are also

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<v Speaker 3>operating in the ecosystem and adding your two cents, so

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<v Speaker 3>you should also be able to be ripped. We've seen

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<v Speaker 3>it when journalists have added people or done the xyz xyz,

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<v Speaker 3>they do get ripped. But I think, yeah, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>playing in that space. All that said, I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to do la la la, la la. I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to live in a fun world, not interested in any drama.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's chill and be vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms on da.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I have said time and time again, my dms

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<v Speaker 2>are a wayward place. You don't know what you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>find when you open one up. What's the worst thing? Ah?

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<v Speaker 2>Just like really racially insensitive stuff, but like virtue signally,

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<v Speaker 2>Like my boyfriend says that insert ethnic group are insert slur?

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<v Speaker 2>But like is he racist? My babies? Please delete me,

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<v Speaker 2>please unfollow delete And then people drive the list Twilight memes,

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<v Speaker 2>but the movie came out ten years ago. I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>every meme, I promise you. Then there's this like viral

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<v Speaker 2>footbear that everyone wants to send me. I promise you

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen it. But every now and then we get

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<v Speaker 2>a gem like today, this person Charlotte asked me this

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<v Speaker 2>question to post to you his first name. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a nice little tree. You know. I didn't do. I

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<v Speaker 2>got a full name here, and I avoided saying it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I digress. Would you rather live in a world where

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<v Speaker 2>public space doesn't exist or where private space doesn't exist? Who? Wash?

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<v Speaker 2>Then she goes on to say, for a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>an explanation, I thought of the world where public space

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<v Speaker 2>not existing, being similar to the COVID world in the

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<v Speaker 2>sense that everyone would have their own homes private space,

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<v Speaker 2>and they would only be able to invite people into

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<v Speaker 2>their space if they wanted to. In addition, public space

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<v Speaker 2>is such as stadiums, parks, restaurants, bars, clubs, airports, train

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<v Speaker 2>stations wouldn't exist. Would also maybe encourage private forms of

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<v Speaker 2>interacting with space, such as like a walking, cycling, or

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<v Speaker 2>driving alone. I then thought of a world with no

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<v Speaker 2>private space, being a bit like one big commune where

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<v Speaker 2>everyone has designated spaces of living and working, but anyone

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<v Speaker 2>could enter your space at any time vice versa. You

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<v Speaker 2>could travel anywhere, and cool places such as museums, private attractions, palaces, houses,

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<v Speaker 2>gardens would be accessible to everyone. WHOA isn't that hectic?

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<v Speaker 2>Like my brain, All the little gremlins in my brain

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<v Speaker 2>are like, okay, inspiring quick quick, rubbing their hands together.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a real doozy. Please answer for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I believe this is really just asking would you

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<v Speaker 3>rather live in a socialist society or a capitalist society?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean private social being the public in that everyone

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<v Speaker 3>can go to any space. Everyone can go to a castle,

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<v Speaker 3>a museum, da da da private like because think about it,

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<v Speaker 3>if the private space thing is true and you're really rich,

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<v Speaker 3>it'd be amazing because you've got your whole big thing. Personally,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going with the private space, all privates, no public spaces,

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<v Speaker 3>purely because of the Internet, and also because I like

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<v Speaker 3>having my things, Oh my little sacred space. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to put the lock on my door. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>anyone bursting into any given time. Sure does that mean

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<v Speaker 3>all spontaneity will be sucked from my life?

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<v Speaker 2>And so be it? So be it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be chilling. It's COVID two point zero. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got my little family in my house. You know, might

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<v Speaker 3>get some lonely tough times, but then you just go

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<v Speaker 3>on neopets or what not.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. I was so tempted to answer aspirationally and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, be so good, have all spaces be public.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm only thinking about the good things that would

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<v Speaker 2>come from that, Like oh, it's like everything goes like

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<v Speaker 2>a party and like you never feel alone. But realistically,

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<v Speaker 2>how life is built up now for me, I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like having my own space, my own things, and

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<v Speaker 2>the option to opt in and out of being in

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<v Speaker 2>other people's spaces and things. There's something all about like

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<v Speaker 2>individual responsibility of your stuff as well. Oh it was

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<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking about when Sydney in particular got electric

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<v Speaker 2>bikes and it was meant to be this amazing thing

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<v Speaker 2>for all all of us to use and enjoy and

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of. And almost immediately why they're being

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<v Speaker 2>thrown into the water, like this is why we can't

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<v Speaker 2>have nice things. This is why I like to go

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<v Speaker 2>out and buy my own electric bike because I wouldn'

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't jump on a line with a broken seat. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to do that. So private space is

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<v Speaker 2>only wow. I mean, it might start charging door fee

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<v Speaker 2>to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Into your house when you even have your dinner party.

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<v Speaker 2>Have me over, it's coming, babe, please, I'm still waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for four O the dining chairs. Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms, so.

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<v Speaker 3>FLEXI as you know, I'm a tight ass.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm learning that about you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it just is what I am. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>grow out of it. I'm sure when I never come forward,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be more chill. But right now, the

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<v Speaker 3>pennies be pinching. Well, it's good, and so therefore I

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<v Speaker 3>have only one subscription service.

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<v Speaker 2>That's oh no, that's not true.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a few subscription services, but one of them

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<v Speaker 3>that I've recently got, begrudgingly, of course, is Binge.

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<v Speaker 2>Why begrudgingly? I don't like paying for things.

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<v Speaker 3>Got it just by the fact that I work in

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<v Speaker 3>industry where people need to pay for things in order

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<v Speaker 3>to pay the creators. I'm out here wanting the freest experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Possible, and you won't go out of your way to

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<v Speaker 2>fish a log in from a friend or Oh I've

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<v Speaker 2>done a.

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<v Speaker 3>Bit of that. I'm on the family account for Netflix.

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<v Speaker 3>I get course and double with Stan. But I just thought, yep,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to bite the bullet and get Binge.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I live in a world where I think that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>maintain and I can't afford things.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, you've got the budget if they you can accommodate.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, I download a Binge because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>watch American horror stories because my sister Olivia.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the way that you said that American horror I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>is that a pun?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's just a type over the brain. My sister

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<v Speaker 3>loves it. When I was in Melbourne last so I've

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<v Speaker 3>just spoken about on the podcast, we spent two days

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<v Speaker 3>in bed watching American horror stories. It was like a

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<v Speaker 3>fever dream and I've been hooked ever since. And anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>log onto Binge the other day and I see they've

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<v Speaker 3>got Insight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, show on a Binge, Like, what the hell? What

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<v Speaker 2>is this?

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<v Speaker 3>Cross pollination? Obviously I watched Examination more like it? Ya,

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<v Speaker 3>how does that even work? I'm not sure because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>pretty sure Binge is foxtail. Whatever it is, I'm happy

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<v Speaker 3>for them to be yeating on each other. This episode

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<v Speaker 3>of Insight, I'd had my eye on it for a

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<v Speaker 3>few weeks months and I hadn't gotten around to watching it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was called Reputation Rebuilt.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of this? No, I've heard of reputation rehab.

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<v Speaker 3>Different, different, So this was an Insight.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what Inside is? Yeah, but I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>watched it. It's like four Corners.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a live studio audience with the host who brings

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<v Speaker 3>a topic. So this topic was when people's reputation is

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<v Speaker 3>dragged through the mud, how do you repair? Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>people that they had on were super super interesting. For example,

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<v Speaker 3>it was mel Greek who was the dj emboiled in

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<v Speaker 3>the royal prank called Scandal. Obviously her life was really

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<v Speaker 3>changed by what happened. She was so brave to come

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<v Speaker 3>on the show and talk about her. I think she's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I walked away from watching that wanting to DM

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<v Speaker 3>her and just be like, you are amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's still time. Yeah, I don't know. It really hit me,

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<v Speaker 2>but yees.

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially, people came on and the host would play a

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<v Speaker 3>little snippet of whatever they did. So there was another

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<v Speaker 3>guy that owned a few cafes and abused one of

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<v Speaker 3>the workers because they weren't working. They played that tape

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<v Speaker 3>in front of the audience. But it got me thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say you your reputation was dragged through the mud,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're a malgreg and you've worked for twenty years

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<v Speaker 3>in the industry, got your dream job, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>do something that goes catastrophizingly wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>MM, how would you react? I have no idea because

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<v Speaker 2>I can imagine for a lot of what I see

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<v Speaker 2>people get canceled for. It is stuff that could have

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<v Speaker 2>been remedied by either doubling down and being like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't misunderstand me like I meant what I said,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's a lot of that missing when people get

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<v Speaker 2>you know, called out or called in for having an

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<v Speaker 2>opinion that doesn't match with the norm. And it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the canceling gets more and more intense when you backtrack

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<v Speaker 2>and say, well, I didn't know what I meant, or

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<v Speaker 2>I never meant to say that, or that's not how

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<v Speaker 2>it came acros. You rarely see a double downer being

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<v Speaker 2>like no, no, no, I said it, And here is

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<v Speaker 2>me elaborating on why I think that way. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's not enough room for that. And secondly, I can

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<v Speaker 2>imagine a lot of what goes wrong when someone gets

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<v Speaker 2>canceled is they rush to remedy it. And with most things,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna take time time for you to understand what

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<v Speaker 2>went wrong, time for you to understand how much this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to escalate before you jump in and decide

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<v Speaker 2>to like stop the train on its tracks, before it's

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<v Speaker 2>gotten to the stop all of those things. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>as though, knowing the way that the internet works now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's silence time and actual retrospection that is going to

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<v Speaker 2>get you through it, because when people rush to address things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like we don't even know the full story yet,

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<v Speaker 2>and something you're telling me that you're sorry, Hold on

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<v Speaker 2>a second. Sometimes you don't need to provide context because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of what happens on the internet is wilful ignorance,

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<v Speaker 2>people choosing not to see that this could be interpreted

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that isn't offensive. What do you think

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be canceled for? Because that's the thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>can't get past them. Like I've already set myself up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like not going to be a virtuous person. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>one degree away from problematic. Like I've spent how many

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<v Speaker 2>years on the Internet saying what I think because I

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<v Speaker 2>think it? What are we going to do about it? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't even know in your peripheries.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds really scary. Let's stop talking about that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but you should definitely watch it, very interesting viewing.

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<v Speaker 2>Insight on your eyes, getting minicle watching. Let's plan a practice. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not in my reality, we're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to flex and frooms on KA.

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<v Speaker 2>I come bearing some good news though, which is a rare,

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<v Speaker 2>rare treat. But Scotland has just recently announced a two

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<v Speaker 2>year rent freeze in response to what they're saying is

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<v Speaker 2>a humanitarian crisis due to the cost of living. So

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<v Speaker 2>for two years, no rents can be increased, which is

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<v Speaker 2>amazing and obviously like landlords are not happy about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, it's neither here nor there, which reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me that a couple of months ago, the Greens proposed

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<v Speaker 2>a rent freeze. I'm not sure what the progresses with that,

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<v Speaker 2>but imagine I was, I don't want to rent freeze.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to rent reduction. I want a rent reduction.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, I was having a conversation the other day with

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<v Speaker 3>our friend Mickey b Yeah, and I was like, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 3>would you buy an investment property?

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<v Speaker 2>Dah da da. He's like, I don't believe in investment properties.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I don't believe in houses is investments or

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<v Speaker 3>places to keep your money because it totally fudges with

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<v Speaker 3>the inflation of other properties.

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<v Speaker 2>I had never even thought of it like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I just thought, like, literally, our properties up, but I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't realize, oh my god, that means it's actually worse

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<v Speaker 3>for all of us. I know that's basic societal you

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<v Speaker 3>know knowledge, but it's basic economics.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's important because it's the same way how everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 2>get a house, is it an investment? Like, yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>you can sell it, but if none of us can

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<v Speaker 2>afford to buy them, then what kind of investment? Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Not good? It's not great. But that's how they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of get you, like, we've created this corrupt We're not created,

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<v Speaker 2>but we perpetuate a corrupt system. That means that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my personal advancement is on the back of somebody else's

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<v Speaker 2>displacement or disadvancement.

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<v Speaker 3>Quite literal displacement. Yeah, scary vibes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not hot.

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