1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Now you know what I haven't done this week. I 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: haven't brought snacks, so you have my full attention. 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: How are you going to survive an hour without food? Oh? 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: No way, I just found just found a fun sized 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: Mars bar. Carry on. Yeah, how are you? 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Oh? 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 3: Just wonderful, absolutely wonderful. 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: You say that with such contempt that you're here just 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: because I pay you in shitty NFTs. 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: They'll be worth something one day, one day. How's your 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: NFT collection going? 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 4: It's growing slowly. It's currently weighed down by Yundai NFTs. 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 4: I bought a bunch of those and they've become effectively worthless. 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's saying something, is it? 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: What struck you about the yun Day n FT? I 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: don't know. I just thought i'd buy some. 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: When you've got that much cash, you can kind of go. 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: I think I might just buy some. 19 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 4: Yes, well it was a disaster, Yeah, an absolute disaster. 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: But anyway, what did you buy? 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: Like? What? It was a pictures or something? 22 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 4: It's so stupid they I'm probably just embarrassed to say. 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm to open them up so you can 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 4: see that. 25 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: What this looks like. 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 4: Because when I was buying them, I thought, oh, this 27 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 4: is obviously going to be, you know, some cool thing 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 4: that's that's interesting and fun. And then they released it 29 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 4: and I was like, what it's a it's a buggy 30 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: with a leaf growing out of it. The car company 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 4: has launched in an FT collection that has zero to 32 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: do with their cars. 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: And so you bought that before they released it. 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, So the way that works is there was part 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 4: of a collection, so I bought five of them. Then 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: they they mint and then they turned into these things. 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, that that's what it became. But then what 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: happened was every person, every person that had one of 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: those then got an ironic, which was much much better. 40 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, they've just they are effectively worthless at the moment. 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: So what do you do with that? Do you just 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: keep it on your hard drive? Dear? Talk about it 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: on the Drive show? Yeah? Do you have it like 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: displayed or anything like that. 45 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 4: As part of an online collection? So I've got my 46 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: other NFTs in there as well. 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: So out of all the wonkiest things you've said, that 48 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: is that is up the top? 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: Can we put that one on the whiteboard? Well, why 50 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: don't you make it an n FT? Make one an 51 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: NFT with a discussion. Can you do that? Yeah, of course. 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: Could we make this podcast an NFT? You could? Could 53 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: we make our logo and n FT as you could? 54 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 4: You could make anything an n FT. It's a non 55 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 4: fungible token. It can be anything. 56 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: From now on. 57 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: I'm selling my dig pics NFTs. It's a non refundable 58 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: token of my approngible whatever. 59 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: I don't even care. Look at me with my NFT collection. 60 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. 61 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: I wish I did. I genuinely don't understand it. I 62 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: just I can't wrap my head around. 63 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 4: Don't fear it because you don't understand it. This stuff 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 4: will be the future. You're you're keen on that, aren't you. 65 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 4: You genuinely believe that. 66 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: But I just think it's I think it's interesting. 67 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: Like one of the one of the guys that I like, 68 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 4: Lush Sucks, who does murals and stuff. 69 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: Yes, he often. 70 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: Releases n FTS, and I bought a whole bunch of 71 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: his stuff. Oh did you? 72 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I see that I would buy yah stuff's cool. Yeah, 73 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: his stuff is actually cool. I'll show you again, pointless 74 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: for how much? 75 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: How much would his NFTs go for? How much would 76 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: you buy an NFT from lush sucks. 77 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: It just depends. 78 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: So he basically paints them on a wall and then 79 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: will animate them. So that one was is that the 80 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: Elon one? Yes, this is a limited edition. It just 81 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: depends some of you know, some have sold for hundreds 82 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: of thousands, some have sold for thousands. It just depends 83 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: which one you get, and how much are you actually 84 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: parting with? 85 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: Just tell me, just tell me how much is an 86 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: nflush sucks? Before grand Wow? Just don't tell my wife. 87 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, do you know what, You're probably 88 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to sell off a few n f t 89 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: s when you get a divorce lawyer. 90 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: The problem is they're not worth that much anymore, which 91 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: is good because now that the government spies on everything 92 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: that you do, you can make a loss on them 93 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 4: and reduce your taxable income. 94 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: But anyway, this is a car This. 95 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: Is a car podcast. And I don't I don't get 96 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. But likes Gordon, I don't do 97 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 1: any I should do investments with a name like Gordon, 98 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: I should do more investments. 99 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: Are you're saying that while you're holding a hot cup 100 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 4: of tea, like I'm. 101 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: Just going to invest in I'm going to go do 102 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: some investments, gazz I'll talk to you later. Hey, can 103 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: I bring up some really cool cars? I've seen this 104 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: race Go Mini have released. 105 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 2: It's automatically not cool. Okay, it's automatically not cool. I 106 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: like minnis, isn'tka you would? Yeah? Whatever? I used to 107 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: own one. I loved it. I did, I did. 108 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: I had like a It was a white Coopers and 109 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: it had wood grain interior and like the they called 110 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: it British lounge green on the seats. 111 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: Oh it's great car. I'm gonna have to leave whatever nerd. 112 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 1: So we've heard of the Mini Clubmen, and now they've 113 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: released the Mini Acemen Acemen. 114 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: How have I not seen this? 115 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: Oh? Right, it should be called the Mini Seamen. It's 116 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: quite an interesting looking mini. 117 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: Look at those Yeah, that's there's a lot. It's got 118 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: some neon lights on the front. Fully electric concepts. 119 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, have a look at the interior of this, to 120 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: kind of paint the picture. You're looking at a steering 121 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: wheel that looks In fact, the entire interior looks like 122 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: it's been done by the Country Women's Association knitting sector. 123 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: Look what I mean? 124 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is odd, that's crazy. 125 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: It is a concept though normally, yeah, especially with Minis, 126 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: they take the concept and then it looks nothing like 127 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: it when it's launched. They actually, the new Mini Cooper 128 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 4: was leaked a while back, like as in, when was it, 129 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to find Yeah, this was back in 130 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 4: December twenty twenty one, and this is a car that 131 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: isn't meant to be revealed until next year. So that 132 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 4: concept they revealed is of this car. But for some reason, 133 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 4: someone parked one somewhere completely undisguised. 134 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: I think if it was perhaps in China or something 135 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: like that. 136 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, spoted testing in China, and normally they have all 137 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: the disguised on them so you can't see anything. This 138 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 4: one was completely undisguised in some car park somewhere, and 139 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 4: someone's taken a whole bunch of photos of it two 140 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: years ahead of its release, which is a pretty big deal. 141 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: That's crazy, that's bad. 142 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's funny that they're still bothering with the 143 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: concept when we all know what it looks like and 144 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 4: it looks nothing like like that. 145 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: No, I don't know. 146 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: I just the thing I've always loved about Mini is 147 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: they're very they're quirky to say, at the least and 148 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: the everything from design exterior to interior and stuff. I 149 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: just I like how they're almost brave about it and. 150 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: Not like by D. 151 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: With podcasts. 152 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 4: Do you just like on Instagram when you do a 153 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 4: sponsored post that's an ad? Do you have to say 154 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 4: that it's an ad just because you'd be getting paid 155 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 4: by BYD right, just. 156 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: Because of I am not getting paid by anyone? 157 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: Podcast is to shit on people in your industry. Hey, 158 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: do you know what's a great car and it's sort 159 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: of BYD? 160 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you know there was? 161 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: There's no there's this car that sort of flew under 162 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: the radar for me for a long time, and I've 163 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: recently just sort of started looking into it a lot 164 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: more and like realizing how much of a cool car 165 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: it is. Is the Lucid Air Oh yeah, Like it's 166 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: effectively a Silicon Valley style EV that's just. 167 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: Come to fruition and it is proper quick. Yeah. 168 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 4: When I was in the state seeing January, I went 169 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: to check them out at their showroom thing and I 170 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: saw one on the street as well. 171 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: They look so cool in person. 172 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: They're like a super long luxury sit and they're incredibly fast. 173 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 4: They actually drove one up the hill at Goodwood with 174 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: Ben Collins, who used to be the original stig for 175 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: Top Kit. Oh yep, and he was absolutely hammering this thing. 176 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: So it is a capable car. 177 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they're fantastic and the interior looks incredible too, 178 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, A huge fan of them. Any idea if 179 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: they'll come here? 180 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: Look, I do hope so. 181 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: Rivian, for example, said that they were building right hand 182 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 4: drive versions of the Ute and the Suv. But I think, 183 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: just like Rivian, they have so much stock shortage that 184 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: it's impossible for them to scale at any great rate 185 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: that Australia would be considered a key market. You'd go 186 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 4: to Europe first the UK for right hand drive before 187 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,239 Speaker 4: you come anywhere near Australia. 188 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 3: But I am hopeful if it does go to the UK. 189 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 4: We're seeing stuff like Mustang Marquee is now sold as 190 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: a right hand drive in the UK. They've announced it's 191 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 4: going to New Zealand. Hopefully that means what will be 192 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: coming to Australia. 193 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, if it's going to New Zealand, you never know. 194 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: That Mustang Marquee, that electric What are your take on? 195 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: What's your take on that? 196 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: I didn't love it in pictures, but again when I 197 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 4: was in the States and I saw one in person, 198 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: they actually look really cool. 199 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, it's weird. 200 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: In pictures it just looks so stupid terrible. Yeah, in 201 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 2: person it looked great. 202 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: I saw a blue one and it looked fantastic. 203 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: Yeah to me, Like first glance, I was like, why 204 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: are they even bothering like aligning this with Mustang? 205 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I think Mustang. 206 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 4: They said they'll have two separate divisions of forward, so 207 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: I think each each vehicle, like f on fifty, they'll 208 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: be the lightning the EV and then you've got the 209 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 4: normal f on fifty Mustang will be the same. 210 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: You got the internal combustion money and then you have 211 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: the EV version as well. Yeah, very cool. We should 212 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:59,239 Speaker 2: talk news, Yes, let's do that. So guess what fuel. 213 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 4: Is going to get more EXPENSI and cleaner apparently, Yeah, 214 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 4: but don't think more expensive is the bit that everyone's 215 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: concerned about. So this is a bit of a technical discussion. 216 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: So I know that you don't like using your brain 217 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 4: on a Saturday, but here it is. Anyway, in Australia 218 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 4: at the moment, diesel fuel from around I think it 219 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 4: was two thousand and oh, sorry, two thousand and nine, 220 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 4: YEP has had a sulfur limit. So sulfur is stuff 221 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 4: in fuel that is toxic and bad for your health, 222 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: and it's also bad for engines as well. So diesel 223 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 4: fuel in Australia has been first world quality since two 224 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 4: thousand and nine, but our unleaded fuel has been ranked 225 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 4: amongst third world countries for its sulfur content, So we 226 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 4: have incredibly low quality fuel. 227 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: Sorry, let me just pause you. Is that is that 228 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: Australia only? 229 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so, well, Australia's standards, so the standards for the fuel, 230 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: So in Australia you can have unleaded fuel with up 231 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 4: to one hundred and fifty parts per million of sulfur, 232 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 4: so since two thousand and five, that's where it was 233 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 4: capped at, and that was a long time ago. Europe, 234 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: for example, is moving to they're currently a ten parts 235 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: per million, but they're moving to a stricter standard from 236 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. So we are so far behind that 237 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: it's not even funny. So well, the government, the previous 238 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: government came out and said that from twenty twenty seven 239 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 4: they're going to be changing that to be better quality. 240 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 4: The new government that's come in has taken over that 241 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 4: and they're now pushing it through to twenty twenty four. 242 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: So from twenty. 243 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: Twenty four we will have a cap of fifty parts 244 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 4: per million on sulfur content. Now, the reason this is 245 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: important is because in Europe, where they have this good 246 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 4: fuel standard, they're able to sell cars there that are 247 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 4: efficient and have new technologies in them. But then when 248 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 4: they go to Australia, they're like, well, if we release 249 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: that engine in Australia and then it runs on ninety 250 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 4: one rong fuel with high sulfur content, the engine will 251 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: basically shit itself after fifty thousand k's. 252 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: Remember the problem with the diesel filters we had here. 253 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 4: This is unrelated to that, but that is the reason 254 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 4: why we've been getting some cars with pretty average engines 255 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 4: in Australia. So that will all change when the fuel 256 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 4: standard changes. But the problem is the reason I say 257 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 4: it's going to get more expensive. The government claims, which 258 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: I think it's just ridiculous, it's going to cost them 259 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: almost a billion dollars to fix this problem, which is 260 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 4: getting this better quality fuel, and they claim that it 261 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: will increase the cost of fuel by zero point six 262 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: to one cent per liter. 263 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: Or an average of I'm quoting your website here, eight 264 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: dollars perhaps household over three years. 265 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. I think that's complete bullshit. 266 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 4: If you release a product that is much higher quality, 267 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 4: is it fuel stations even fling over a billion dollars 268 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 4: like fuel stations at the moment with the government cutting 269 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 4: the excise in half, they're still gouging the shit out 270 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 4: of everyone, even though they don't need to be. Even 271 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 4: though oil prices have come down to before well and 272 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 4: true before their peak. The reason I think it's going 273 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: to get more expensive is New Zealand already has these standards, 274 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 4: and during the fuel crisis that we had recently in 275 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 4: New Zealand, they were paying over three dollars a leter 276 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: for fuel. 277 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: So I think our fuel is going. 278 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 4: To get significantly more expensive when it's fixed. If you 279 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 4: look at the price of fuel in the UK, it 280 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 4: is way more expensive than it is here. 281 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: They are bulk buyers of we headed Field. 282 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: We have bitched about the price of petrol in this 283 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: country for a long time, but do you know what 284 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: we're actually done. We've actually had a pretty good We've 285 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: actually had a. We've actually had it pretty good. 286 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: We have, so yeah, look, I think that this is 287 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 4: a good move because it's going to make for cleaner air, 288 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 4: better engines, and all that sort of stuff. But ultimately 289 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 4: it's going to be the consumer that pays for it, 290 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 4: because oil companies are greedy, retailers are greedy, and they're 291 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: going to try and get as much as they can 292 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 4: out of you, the average consumer. 293 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: And this will roll into the narrative of cost of 294 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: living and all that sort of stuff, and there'll be 295 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: more bloody, there'll be a bigger push for evs and 296 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: you know. 297 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: Now, how do you like the sound of this? 298 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: An off road version of the Lamborghini Hourrican? Oh? I 299 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: think I saw this? Did they release pictures of this? 300 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like a little video of a concept car. 301 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: It's going to be called the Hurrican Strato or stradat 302 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: or if you're Italian and racist, like hurricane with a 303 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: like an hurricane. 304 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: No, it doesn't have an E on the end, so 305 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 4: it's not Hurricane socan hurrican. 306 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. Though, this is basically can you say 307 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: it with an Italian accent? Give it a go? 308 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: Hey ho Acan. 309 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 4: That's that's so it's an all terrain version of the 310 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: hood Kan and I think this thing is going to 311 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 4: be so cool. So the concept had a raise suspension 312 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 4: of forty seven millimeters that the sort of con concept 313 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 4: that they launched was called Beyond the Concrete, and it 314 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: was this thing just belting through some gravel roads with 315 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 4: these dirty, big driving lamps on the front. This is 316 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 4: going to be insane, is there. Yeah, that's it's just 317 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: going to be insane. 318 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: And I think that this car is. 319 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: So cool. 320 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: It's going to be signing off the V ten engine 321 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: for the Huricans, so it'll be one of the last 322 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 4: cars you can get with this enormous engine before you know, 323 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: before EV's a mandated and all this sort of stuff 324 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: happens that just makes these cars disappear. 325 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: So you know that that is like a Dubai Special, 326 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: that car that is just going to. 327 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: Be that'll be carve up sand dunes, that'll. 328 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: Be there'll be some legends just driving that thing like 329 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: there's no tomorrow. 330 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, God, that looks good, it does. It looks like 331 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: a hell of a lot of fun. 332 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks bloody awesome. 333 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: So Lambaghini's actually working on a few other cars, so 334 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 4: they're doing a plug in hybrid version of the Urus 335 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 4: as well, so hopefully it'll be a little better than 336 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: the mghs we spoke about a couple of weeks ago, 337 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: and they're also doing a car called the Urus Evo, 338 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: which is a faster version of the SUV. So yeah, 339 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 4: the SUV, I don't know. I've seen a few round 340 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 4: but not as many as I thought I would. I 341 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 4: don't think the Euros has been all that popular. 342 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: I like them. They're very much. You either love them 343 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: or hate them. So of car, yeap, what I haven't looked. 344 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: I haven't driven one. I've sat in one, but I 345 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: haven't driven it. What were your impressions of driving it? 346 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 4: Look, it's the problem is it's based on the Q 347 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 4: seven platforms, so Cayenne is off that platform to reg 348 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: so they are kind of limited in terms of what 349 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: they can do with it. And it is cool, it's 350 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 4: got that lambeau vibe to it, but. 351 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 352 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 4: I think i'd be just buying a rain driver, sport 353 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 4: SVR or something that that just feels like a more 354 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: engaging su It actually has room inside. 355 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: The URS is pretty cramped. 356 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: It's not a very good suv, so. 357 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't look as good like your land drove doesn't 358 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: look as cool. Rain drove doesn't look. 359 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: As cool, doesn't. 360 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: But I just think it'll age better and it's just 361 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 4: classier as funny as that is to say. 362 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: But that's my class with my NFT gallery on my 363 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: hard drive. Excuse me, I'll have a dry wide wine 364 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: with Christopher pine All here from car ex Yes, classy. 365 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: What else is making car news? I thought we were 366 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: talking about Yundai and Kia facing a class action. 367 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we are so Bannister law in my opinion, ambulance chases, 368 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: so they don't come consume me. They're investigating a class 369 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 4: action against Yuenda and Kia in austraight out due to 370 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 4: engine problems with American market cars. They also have a 371 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: distinct issue of catching on fire as well, which is 372 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 4: another problem they're having with abs modules and Yunday is 373 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 4: kind of just at the moment, they're staying tight lipped, 374 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 4: and I know that's a legal move because they don't 375 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: want to come out and comment because obviously, if they're 376 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: getting sued, they can use those comments against them. But 377 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: it all relates to vehicles made between two thousand and 378 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 4: nine and twenty nineteen. That use petrol engines up to 379 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 4: two point four leaders that include Santa Fe, Sonata, Tucson, Velosta, Kia, Sorrento, Optima, 380 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 4: and Sportage. 381 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 3: Initially, they claimed. 382 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 4: That this was just US vehicles that were affected, but 383 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: they've now found that these engines are made both in 384 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: the United States and Korea, which is where we had 385 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 4: our vehicles sourced from. 386 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: So yeah, they're going to be in hot water here. 387 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: And it's actually interesting. 388 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: You know, we sort of laugh a bit about Jeep 389 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: having all these recalls and stuff, but Hyun Dan and 390 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: Kia recently have just been on fire. 391 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: Part in the pun with what you did there your car? 392 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 2: Have you gone and got your recall sorted? 393 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 4: My k Stinger, Yeah, it's affected by the ABS module recall. 394 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 3: There was a recommendation with. 395 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for bringing that up. I am trying to sell 396 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: that car even though it's brain new. 397 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: If you'd like to buy it, please contacted the Drive 398 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: show dot com dot attention Gordon. 399 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, they. 400 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: Basically the ABS module can can cause the car to 401 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 4: catch fire, and they were recommending with one of these 402 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 4: recalls to make sure your car's parked outside until the 403 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: recalls addressed Jesus. 404 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: My dear, it didn't contact me over that one. 405 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: Or maybe your car isn't affected. Actually this would be 406 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: a fun little exercise. Let me just thanks for boring Podcat, 407 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: but Keia recalls. I'm just going to type that in. 408 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: Do I have to look up my registration number? Yeah? 409 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: I want your VIN? Do you have? Okay? 410 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: Again, this is boring you New South Wales readisa it all? Yes, yeah, 411 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 4: I need your VIN. 412 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: Okay, so we've got your VIN. 413 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 4: I'm going to type that into the Kia website right now, 414 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: so okay in a. 415 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting. 416 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 4: So it says there are currently no outstanding recalls for 417 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: this vehicle, even though I was certain the ABS module 418 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 4: recall affected Stinger as well. Yeah, it says here twenty 419 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 4: sixteen to twenty twenty one our twenty seventeen to twenty 420 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: nineteen Stinger. 421 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: Yours would be twenty twenty two, twenty two. Okay, so yeah, 422 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: basically it is. 423 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 2: Well, that was a that was a useless exercise. 424 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 4: We'll never get that eight minutes back for week. I 425 00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 4: was really hoping it would catch. 426 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 2: I was really hoping you would burn to death, damn it. 427 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 4: Okay, but yeah, anyway, so yeah, ya they care. Now 428 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 4: if you do think your vehicle is affected, you can 429 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: join the class action. Now this next bit is going 430 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: to be my opinion. 431 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: Oh have we got another opinion piece from Paul? Give 432 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: the opinion piece theme please gets sued? 433 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 4: Now here we go, another opinion piece coming up from 434 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: If you are interested in taking part in a class action, 435 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: and I'm just talking based on experience here of my 436 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: sister in law who had a Ford Focus with a 437 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: dodgy dual clutch transmission, some people just joined the class 438 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 4: action and waited around and ended up getting you know, 439 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 4: ten bucks for their effort. At the end of the 440 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 4: class action. The lawyers always take the biggest lick of 441 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 4: that little pie. 442 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: So what ended up with her? 443 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 4: She ended up pursuing it with Ford and had her 444 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 4: car replaced, and I replaced it with a new car. 445 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 4: So I think that if you are having issues and 446 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: you want to join this class action, don't then stop 447 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: dealing with the car brand to get your problems sorted, 448 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 4: because ultimately you will end up with far less through 449 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 4: the class action than you would have if you persevered 450 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 4: with the car brand and got it sorted. 451 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: Did your sister in law drop your name? 452 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 4: No, actually, and I deliberately stayed out of that because 453 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: I said to her, if you don't succeed, let me know. 454 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 4: But she had to go through VCAT and all this 455 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 4: sort of stuff, which is the Victorian blah blah blah. 456 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 3: But yeah, so I just persevere with it. 457 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: Keep great documentation, so every interaction, don't do it on 458 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 4: the phone, do it. And if you do do it 459 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 4: on the phone, note it down. Take all of your documentation. 460 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: And if you are going to join the class action, 461 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 4: you can have a foot in both camps. You don't 462 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 4: need to just be in the one wow fi. 463 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: And there's Paul's opinion piece, roll the theme, shall we 464 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: get to the car of you? Yeah, let's do that. 465 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: Let's go the. 466 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 5: Twenty twenty three bmw M three competition under the bonnet 467 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 5: of all three models as a three leater wind turbot 468 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 5: inline sex petrol engine sending three hundred and seventy five 469 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 5: kilowats of power and six one hundred and fifty newtimeters 470 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 5: of talk to all four wheels through an eight speed 471 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 5: automatic transmission, and it also does zero to one hundred 472 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 5: and three point six seconds. Prices start from one hundred 473 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 5: and sixty thousand dollars before on road. 474 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: Now this is where I try not to seethe with jealousy. 475 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: One of the great cars BMW M four competition. Yes, 476 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: so M four Competition. 477 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 4: I had a chance to drive M four Competition with 478 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 4: a whole stack of M performance parts. And the M 479 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 4: three and the M four are now available as all 480 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 4: wheel drive, so you can basically get extrave versions of 481 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: these vehicles. And the cool thing about them is that 482 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 4: you can still get them with a manual as well. 483 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 4: And that was the interesting thing I thought that, you know, 484 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: these days, manuals are so rare and so hard to 485 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: come across that you kind of you don't expect to 486 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: see that all the time, whereas now you can actually. 487 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 3: Get manual or automatic. On the entry level. 488 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 4: The competition is automatic only, but it is cool to 489 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: see that they've actually gone down the path of doing that. 490 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 4: Now you can also get convertibles, but you don't don't 491 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: buy the convertible. 492 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: Shake of the head, there was very no, no, not 493 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: the purest thing to do. 494 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: So jump behind the wheel of the M four competition. 495 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: Re Wal Drive so one hundred and sixty five ish 496 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 4: thousand dollars plus on roads Rebel Drive Automatic, the one 497 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: that I drive. 498 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: This is straight six three liter YEP. That's it. So 499 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: mine had get this. It had adding these numbers up, 500 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: so these are like the optional extras. Yeah twenty. 501 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 4: It had around fifty thousand dollars worth of m performance 502 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 4: carbon accessories, carbon fiber, and a titanium exhaust as well. 503 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 4: Oh no, the titanium exhaust was like sixteen thousand dollars 504 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 4: and it comes with a bespoke diffuser at the back, 505 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 4: so it looks totally different. The carbon wing is just 506 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 4: ridiculous as well. This thing is unreal. So we went 507 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: to film it down at lang Lang where we do 508 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 4: all of our other reviews, and the video guys were 509 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 4: running late and it was wet, so this giant skid 510 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: pan open to me. So I ended up just going 511 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 4: and having some fun for about half an hour. The 512 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 4: best part about it being wet is you don't destroy tires. 513 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: To put the numbers for Mull Competition into into perspective, 514 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 4: three hundred and seventy five kilots of power, six hundred 515 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: and fifty meters of talk and zero to one hundred 516 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 4: in under four seconds. 517 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: This thing is a beast of a car. It is unreal. 518 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: Can I ask just on styling wise and looks are 519 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: you warming to the. 520 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: I was going to call it kidney grill, but it's 521 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: more giant lungs, the kind of nose looking thing. 522 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, are you? I think it's it's this car. 523 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 3: It doesn't you need to see it in person. 524 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: In person, it actually looks good and if you have 525 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 4: a bigger number plate, it actually breaks up that grill 526 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 4: section quite nicely. So yeah, I think it actually is fine. 527 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it looks good in person. But 528 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 4: the cool features this car has. So it's got a 529 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 4: mode called the Drift Analyzer. I was gonna say, and 530 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: you did give this a bit of a spin to yeah? None, 531 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 4: no spinning, just all right then, thank you. 532 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: I was perfectly drifting. So it will basically rate your drift. 533 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 4: It will rate the maximum angle, the length of the drift, 534 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 4: and obviously whether you spin out or not. 535 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: And it gives you a star rating out of five. 536 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: And you've got five stars correct. 537 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: This is if it could only analyze your penis, you'd 538 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: get probably two stars. 539 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: Thank you. That's not good. That's not the length. Wasn't 540 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: there a Bengal? 541 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: The penis one is out of two stars, So I 542 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 4: think that was good, No, it really was not. The 543 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 4: other cool thing it has is variable traction control. 544 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: So what you can do. 545 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 4: It's got MDM mode, which gives you a little bit 546 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 4: of slip, but it's always sort of in charge. But 547 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 4: then you can go all the way through to stability 548 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 4: control totally off and also variable traction control. And what 549 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 4: that means is that on a wet surface like the 550 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 4: skid pam we're on, you could do one eighty degree 551 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 4: turns with limited traction, but you just keep your foot 552 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 4: in the throttle and it won't actually spin. 553 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: The car out. 554 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 4: It will just keep feeding the rear wheels and managing 555 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: traction as it goes. So there are so many cool 556 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 4: features in this car that allay you to just have 557 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: some real fun with it. And then when you do 558 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: actually want to go for a proper drive and really 559 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 4: get stuck into it, it is unbelievably quick. It is 560 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 4: just ridiculous how fast it is through corners and how 561 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 4: it picks up speed. Yeah, it is well and truly 562 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 4: one of my favorite sports cars. And this latest generation 563 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 4: just really knocks it out of the parks. 564 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: I feel like bmw' come to the party with almost 565 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: a new icon like a new classic. 566 00:26:59,359 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? 567 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 568 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: It's it's a. 569 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: Really stellar looking car. It's beautiful to look at in 570 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: the way it drives. 571 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: I mean, what a base. Yeah it is. It is 572 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 2: so cool. 573 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 4: So yeah that that review will be live shortly on 574 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 4: our YouTube channel. I actually did. I spent a bit 575 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 4: of time demonstrating all of those features as well. So yeah, 576 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 4: actually check that out and and yeah, see what you think. 577 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: I've got to say, how many, how many? How many 578 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: like goes of drifting did you get to get the 579 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: five stars? 580 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: And first go? 581 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 2: So, yeah, did you learn how to drift? 582 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 3: Ye's a practice? 583 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, can I just quickly say, someone 584 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 4: remixed our Ford Ranger review where I did a little 585 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: bit of drifting drift in the review. Yeah, and they 586 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 4: put the Tokyo Drift music on it. 587 00:27:50,640 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: I gotta show you this, so so pulls in a 588 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: oh my god, look at you go, Look at you go, 589 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: look at that. That's actually you actually right. 590 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 6: I wouldn't call that five stars, but for a five 591 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 6: star Marrick, for a big heavy ass y, you actually 592 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 6: did a right out there a little bit four stars. 593 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 4: But yes, the internet is great, and so is the 594 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 4: M four competition, So I'm actually keen. Is anyone listening 595 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: to this? Well, is anyone listening to this in general? 596 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 4: But is anyone listening to this that owns an M 597 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 4: through and M four And. 598 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: Have you owned previous ones? How do you rate this 599 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: compared to the last ones? 600 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 4: Because the last ones were a duel clutch automatic. This 601 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: one is a talk converter, and but BMW has done 602 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 4: some really clever stuff with especially with the launch control mechanism, 603 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 4: because typically with duel clutches, you dial up REVS, it 604 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 4: drops the clutch and then they manage the takeoff with 605 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 4: traction control, whereas with the talk converter you can't do that. 606 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 4: You just always have to be under load. And they've 607 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 4: got a a system here that when you do engage 608 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 4: launch control, it will shift up to second gear while 609 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 4: the car is stationary, and you hear the turbo charges spooling, 610 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 4: and then it tells you when to let go of 611 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 4: the break and it is insanely fast. Typically with a 612 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 4: rebel drive you don't get a good clean launch. This 613 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 4: just blows it out of the park. 614 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, it is. It is so cool, and it 615 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: well and truly breathes that that M performance sort of. Yeah. 616 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: Brand I'm not a huge BMW guy, like I could 617 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: pass up an suv any day, But there's something with 618 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: their M cars, especially the ones that are really track focused, 619 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: that they just they just nail yep in every aspect. 620 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very serious. 621 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: It's not like a with a C sixty three. 622 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: It's it's loud, and it's it's V eight. 623 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 4: It doesn't corner all that well, it doesn't really do 624 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 4: much well. And the Audi is all will drive. It's 625 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 4: very much focused about going around corners, whereas this it 626 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: has a bit of both. You can have the rebel 627 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 4: drive and be silly, or you can go the ll 628 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 4: will drive version that's better for cornering and can be 629 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 4: silly as well because you can just stick it into 630 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 4: rewel drive. And to think that Mercedes Bens is going 631 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 4: to a four cylinder for the next C sixty three, 632 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 4: I think is just absolutely criminal. 633 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: That's yeah, that does not sit well at all. No, 634 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: how would you say, what would this compete with? Would 635 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: this compete with a nine to eleven? 636 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: No, this would be this is C sixty three coupee, 637 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: it's out the RS five. 638 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Lexus RCF. 639 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: There's no one really in the Porsche world that would 640 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: compete with They just don't have that. 641 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: Really, these are too big. 642 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 4: And the thing with the M four comp you can 643 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: actually sit in the second row as an adult and 644 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 4: you have plenty of room, so you know, the stuff 645 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 4: you can't do in a nine to eleven don't even 646 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 4: have back seats and it Cayman. 647 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's good. So I contacted the 648 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: Drive show dot com today. 649 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: You let us know. Have you owned an M car? 650 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: What do you think of them? 651 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? I want to find out people's impressions. Actually like 652 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: living impressions too. It's one thing to track a car, 653 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: but also to live with it as a daily or 654 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: or you know, what. 655 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: Are you doing? 656 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: You're looking at the ingredients of kombucha while I'm trying. 657 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: To do it. I'm reading the can. 658 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: It says no sugar, and then there's a tick that says, 659 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: I quit sugar. 660 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, because I quit sugar. 661 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: I Quit Sugar is a book that and it's kind 662 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: of a brand movement, where so that is just basically 663 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: saying yes, you can have you can. It's like it's 664 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: like when you have your weight Watchers meals and you're 665 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: on like three points or whatever. 666 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 3: It fits in with that system, except I have four 667 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 3: of those meals instead of one. 668 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: You put them between two pieces of bread needle like 669 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: a sandwich, deep fry the shit out of it. 670 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that reminds me, where's my cookie going? We should 671 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: just change the name of this podcast to two Fatty. 672 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: It's talking about cars occasionally. I love how we went 673 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: from like a bmw M four to your Kim Butcher. 674 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 2: And I just want to make it clear that I 675 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: don't buy Kom Butcher. This was in the fridge here, 676 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: and yes. 677 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: The only thing I could steal he demanded water, and 678 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: I was tempted to just there was a vase in 679 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: the kitchen and I was attempted to just give you that. 680 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: But anyway, contacted the Drive show dot com dot you 681 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: is where we're at, and please leave us rating, please 682 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: leave us. 683 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. Can they share this podcast? It'd be 684 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: good if they told some friends or something. Yeah, I 685 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: don't know. 686 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: I tell your friends if you know anyone who's remotely 687 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: interested in cars. 688 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Gordie will give you his key stinger. 689 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'll find some merch for you. We should 690 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: get merch. Merchant Can you imagine if. 691 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: We did a merch drop. Yeah, I don't know what 692 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: that is, but that's what all the cool kids say 693 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: when they come out with merch. Oh, it's like an 694 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: NFT drop. No, no, is Hey, I'm going to. 695 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: Ask you something random, right, because I feel like a 696 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: lot of car people would be into this. 697 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: Are you a watch guy at all? 698 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a big fan of them. Looking at buying 699 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: one of the og Amiga speed Masters, right, Yes, beautiful, 700 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: beautiful watch, very classic. It's also known as the moon Watch. 701 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: Did you know that about I think it was about 702 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: six months ago. Amiga did a collaboration with Swatch. Yes, 703 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: and it was like the Swatch Speedmaster or something like that. 704 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: Those watches when they were selling was something like three 705 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty dollars. Right, it's a plastic watch. It's 706 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: a bit of a tribute to Amiga. I guess Swatch 707 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: is a Swiss company, but this watch I don't think 708 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: has that really, It doesn't really have Swiss parts in it. 709 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: But I for shits and giggles, I remember I was 710 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: sort of around the Swatch store when they first when 711 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: they launched the day. 712 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: They launched this, I'm like what's this bloody life for? 713 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: And I found out it was like thousands, thousands upon 714 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: thousands of people. 715 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: You couldn't buy it online. 716 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: It was crazy in store, in store only and there's 717 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: only like one or two stores nowadays, Swatch stores in 718 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: Australia anyway, found out what it was. Those those watches, 719 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: there's plastic watches are now going for twelve hundred dollars 720 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: like you can get you can get a secondhand Amiga 721 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: that's still that's a proper Amiga, Swiss made or whatever, 722 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: and it's. 723 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: Just that'll last you for the rest of your life. Yeah, 724 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? 725 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 3: It's just hype. 726 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 2: I think eventually they will come down in like that. 727 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 4: They will just release new ones and then it will 728 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 4: just be yeah, because I saw people actually buying them 729 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 4: and walking out onto the street and reselling them immediately. 730 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: So nuts. Yeah. N So you're a watch guy, Yeah? Yeah, 731 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: what's your favorite watch? You have a favorite? You have 732 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: a Do you have a Rolex? 733 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 4: No? 734 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 2: Not at the moment. 735 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 3: I would like to have a Pepsi at some point. 736 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 2: The problem is, why is that the Cicco Siico No, 737 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: the Rolls, oh, the Rolls and half Blue, half red. 738 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, because before COVID used to travel a lot with 739 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 4: work internationally, and I would every city I went to, 740 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 4: I'd go to the rollstore and put my name down 741 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 4: for one of the sport watches. Yeah, and no one 742 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 4: ever contacts you. But the thing is that with Rolex 743 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 4: in particular, I had a friend of mine who has 744 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 4: a whole lot more money than I do, but he 745 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 4: was buying three or four roles Is a month and 746 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 4: that made him eligible for access to the sport Watchers. 747 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 4: So he was getting like gold Daytonas. 748 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: And stuff like that. 749 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 3: So he would always get them and offer them to me. 750 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 4: But I'm not going to spend sixty thousand dollars on 751 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 4: a Daytona with rose gold or some shit like that. 752 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's still on my to do list. And 753 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 4: he has promised me that if a Pepsi or a 754 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 4: Batman comes up, that he will sell them to me. 755 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, I just refuse to pay twenty grand on 756 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 4: the secondhand market for them when you get them for 757 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 4: much cheaper. I own a Saiko Astron, which is a 758 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 4: duel a dual time zone solar backed watch. 759 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 2: That's a nice watch. So because I need to close 760 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 2: the look at that. 761 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I travel a lot, I can basically on 762 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 4: the plane just as I land press a button. It 763 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 4: will get the satellites updated. And that's because it's got 764 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 4: solar power. You never have to really do anything with it. 765 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: Oh that's very cool. But anyway, thank you for listening 766 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: to this episode. What's the other ones, the Saco grand 767 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,479 Speaker 2: Master or something? 768 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 3: Oh, the grand Master, Yeah, that's nice. 769 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 2: They're nice. Yeah, and they're not too expensive either. No, 770 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: they're a bloody good watch. 771 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 4: One of our developers is a mad watch guy and 772 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 4: he's a grand Master. He has a number of other 773 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 4: older Rolexes as well, so he collects them and has 774 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: friends who are on VIP lists, so he'll often cycle 775 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 4: through them. That was the other issue with my friend 776 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 4: on the VIP list. If he did get one of 777 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 4: the special watches, he's not allowed to sell it because 778 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 4: his dealer said to him, if this gets sold secondhand 779 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 4: within like a year of me selling it to you, 780 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 4: I'm not going to sell you any more of these, 781 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 4: even though he was buying three or four. 782 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: That's fifty dollars. Can they really police that? 783 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing. You are at the dealer's discretion. 784 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 4: Whatever they say goes. They can make up whatever they want. 785 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's just crazy. 786 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: Wow. Eh, I've got an old rolex. Oh it was 787 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: my great grandfather, so it's like that old. But it 788 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: was like he was he was the mayor of our 789 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: suburb once upon a time. So they kind of felent. Hey, 790 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: here you go have a rolex if you approve his 791 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: building application. Alex, how dare you? But that's exactly what 792 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: happened to me anyway. Contacted the Drive show dot com 793 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: dot you tell us what you welcome to the Car Show. 794 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: Tell us your favorite watch. 795 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be good.