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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: I had two of Australia's finest talents and together they're

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Speaker 2: starring in a gripping new series called Plum. In it,

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Speaker 2: we see Brendan Carroll and Asha Ketty dive deep into

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Speaker 2: the complexities around the Australian culture of sports, mental health

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Speaker 2: and life struggles and to join us now with thrilled

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Speaker 2: Asher and Brendan.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hi, I just love the premise of this So Brendan,

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Speaker 3: you play Peter Lum the Plum, an ex footy player,

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Speaker 3: an ex sharky and then you've got Asher as the

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Speaker 3: ex wife.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of exes going on, which always makes

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Speaker 1: for great drama, doesn't it. The more exes you can get,

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Speaker 1: the more ticks you get drama wise. But yes, Peter

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Speaker 1: the Plum Lum forty nine year old ex footy player

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Speaker 1: retired about sixteen years living the dream in Krinala. He's

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Speaker 1: a bit of a local hero, you know. We can't

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Speaker 1: go down the street without a selfie. And he likes

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Speaker 1: to exercise with his son in the morning and lives

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Speaker 1: with his girlfriend and then probably has a few too

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Speaker 1: many schooners of an afternoon with other ex players of

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Speaker 1: different sports, and he works at the airport dragging the

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Speaker 1: planes out, and then one day he has a seizure

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Speaker 1: at the airport as a result of the hundreds of

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Speaker 1: concussions he took on the field, finds out he's got

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Speaker 1: a brain injury, and then if he doesn't change up

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Speaker 1: his life, he could be in deep water. But the

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Speaker 1: thing is he's got this ingrained never take a backward

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Speaker 1: step from his dad. And you know, he's an Aussie

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Speaker 1: assie mail. He's not good at expressing himself. And he

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Speaker 1: goes on a journey which later on in the piece

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Speaker 1: involves you know, writing things down, and Asher plays his

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Speaker 1: his ex wife. But they're still very much in each

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Speaker 1: other's life, and if anything, they found the best way

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Speaker 1: to be in each other's life because they can kind

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Speaker 1: of yell at each other and see each other every day,

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Speaker 1: but they don't have to worry about the you know

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Speaker 1: what dinner will be like that night.

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Speaker 5: You know, he hides everything from all the other people

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Speaker 5: in his life, but he can't can't hide anything from

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Speaker 5: Renee no, so which is.

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Speaker 4: Just won't letting you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just called it the way it is,

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Speaker 5: which is what he needs really and what he eventually

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Speaker 5: appreciates so that he can save himself.

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Speaker 3: And Renee, Renee your character he she's with a doctor.

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Speaker 4: Now, yes, ja.

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Speaker 2: Oh another fun human.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: These themes are so current at the moment, though, aren't

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Speaker 2: they in terms of brain health with footballers. I know

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Speaker 2: this is based on this is the book that you wrote,

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Speaker 2: Brendan ten years ago, ahead of your time. Because this

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Speaker 2: conversation was this conversation big.

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Speaker 1: Then well, yeah, it's a good question, Amanda, because we

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Speaker 1: set the show. We lay our scene twenty eighteen nineteen,

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Speaker 1: which is when I started to write it during the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the pandemic. I wrote it in my basement

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Speaker 1: flood in notting Hill, and it was when the media

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Speaker 1: was shifting their attitudes from oh, you know, it's contact sport,

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Speaker 1: shout up. If you don't want to play it, go

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Speaker 1: and do ballet too. I hang on, I think players'

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Speaker 1: lives are more important than making the semi finals.

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Speaker 4: Guys were getting medically retired.

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Speaker 1: Your boyd Cordiner's, Wally Lewis was coming out and going

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Speaker 1: I think I've got it, And suddenly there was a

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Speaker 1: doctor in the bunker, and there was Hia's and there's protocols.

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Speaker 1: So we lay our scene at the shifting attitude, don't we.

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Speaker 1: And her husband is a great kind of information device

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Speaker 1: in the show because he's like, do you realize if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't do something about this could be.

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Speaker 4: Dementia or death. And so there's these real.

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Speaker 1: Kind of stakes in the show that Peter Lam kind

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Speaker 1: of like the codes have to get the information.

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Speaker 4: So does Peter Lam. You know that's Shakespearean notion.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm very very powerful and Asher, I just love

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Speaker 2: every single thing that you're in. Fake was the most

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Speaker 2: extraordinary recent program i've I've most a brilliant thing. I

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Speaker 2: loved it, and I love all your outfits in it.

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Speaker 2: How who's Renee and plumb? How are you picturing her outfits?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: It was just quite fun developing Renee and the way

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Speaker 5: she she looks and the persona she wants to convey.

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Speaker 5: I guess it was really fun with Renee because I

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Speaker 5: just I remember saying to our wonderful designer Olivia Smitt,

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Speaker 5: I just want her to look fantastic and feel fabulous.

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Speaker 5: But just there's always there's got to always be something

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Speaker 5: not quite right or that she's you know, she's done

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Speaker 5: something she's.

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Speaker 4: Done too much.

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Speaker 5: Whether it's you know, a fabulous Gucci loafer but it's

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Speaker 5: actually floral, you know, not not classic black order.

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Speaker 4: But it was fun. That's the wag. The wag Renee

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Speaker 4: is still a wag.

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Speaker 3: And Brendan and I just like to talk about your

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Speaker 3: wardrobe for the show. So I'm thinking a distinct Low's

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Speaker 3: outlook there. You know, a lot of fleecy involved a

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Speaker 3: lot of short jerseys.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, I looked a lot of Andrew

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Speaker 1: John's like, you know, there's just those three shirts. There's

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Speaker 1: no reason to get any more shirts. Those shirts are working.

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Speaker 1: And then I looked at Paul Mescal really blowing up

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Speaker 1: in normal people for short shorts, and I thought, I'll

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Speaker 1: get my thighs out, and I reckon, the ladies are

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Speaker 1: going to go crazy because they want that.

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Speaker 4: I think they do. I kind of went with.

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Speaker 1: That faded eighty surfer look with a short short for

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Speaker 1: the ladies.

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Speaker 4: There the flip flop.

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Speaker 3: It's got something for everyone. Plum premiers this Sunday at

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Speaker 3: eight thirty on ABC TV, or you can stream all

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Speaker 3: the episodes right now on ABC I view. Brendan cal

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Speaker 3: Asher Keady, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, thanks Love for having its on means a lot,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for supporting Plum Sunday Night. Thank you guys,

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Speaker 1: turn off those shows where you vote your ex wife off.

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Speaker 4: And love Kitchen my island block of challenging the drama

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Speaker 4: for you asked for it here it is here.

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Speaker 3: It is. Yep, all those keyboard boys game, where's Assie? Drama? Here?

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Speaker 2: It is now with added sigh, very happy for it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you you too, wonderful. See you bye