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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken, your dose of the hottest

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Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Kate Torber,

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Speaker 1: and today I'm actually just joined by my sister and

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Speaker 1: journalist Amy, because Sophie is sick today. On today's show,

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Speaker 1: footage has emerged of two reality stars brawling at an

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Speaker 1: influencer event on the Gold Coast, selling Sunset surprise new

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Speaker 1: relationship and have Sammy Robinson and Jordan Simmy called it

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Speaker 1: quits the first Amy, as I said in the intro,

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Speaker 1: it's just you and me today, it is, but Sophie's

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Speaker 1: voice will pop up in some segments because we have

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Speaker 1: pre recorded them when Sophie was feeling better. So you're

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Speaker 1: not going crazy if you start to hear three voices

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Speaker 1: in this podcast. I feel like I'm about to go

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Speaker 1: down with something because i feel like my throat is

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Speaker 1: a little bit gravey. I'm going to take a rat

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Speaker 1: test after, but I'm hoping it's just because I've been

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Speaker 1: sleeping with the heater on well. I actually have found

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Speaker 1: a new appreciation for Sophie because I have been having

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Speaker 1: to run hula all by myself. Normally, Sophie comes to

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Speaker 1: every single meeting with me, and it's just been me

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Speaker 1: having to front up. So I can't wait till she's

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Speaker 1: feeling better. It seems like we're not having the best week.

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Speaker 1: But do you know who is who's that well, it's

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Speaker 1: the former bachelor Sam Would. Now we did speak about

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Speaker 1: how Maddie Jay's got a big break on Play School

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Speaker 1: on Monday, but I think Sam Wood has definitely trumped

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Speaker 1: this news because he's just become filthy rich. His popular

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Speaker 1: fitness and diet program twenty eight by Sam Wood, has

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Speaker 1: just been sold for seventy one million dollars. Can you

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Speaker 1: believe that? Jesez that it's like Kaylor It's Senus level

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Speaker 1: rich for a fitness app. It's just an amount of

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Speaker 1: money that is hard to fathom. Now, the app was

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Speaker 1: bought by Melbourne founded genomics company my Dna, Inc. And

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Speaker 1: Sam will become an investor of the app and hold

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Speaker 1: a five percent steak. Do you think this is why

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Speaker 1: so many influencers are launching fitness apps? Because there's obviously

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Speaker 1: there's a Kick app, there's also Sarah's Days app. Do

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Speaker 1: you think everyone's just hoping to get that huge payday?

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Speaker 1: It just made me think, like how much which would

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Speaker 1: kick actually be bought for and also Tammy Hembrose fitness

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Speaker 1: app as well.

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Speaker 2: But she went off her not and I was actually

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Speaker 2: quite shocked and scared, and I didn't really know if

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Speaker 2: it was a joke or not, but I felt like

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Speaker 2: I was at a Math's dinner party. Honestly, I was like,

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Speaker 2: where's ushen Kutcher.

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Speaker 1: On Wednesday, former Maths contestant Cyrel Paul publicly slammed controversial

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Speaker 1: influencers Sky Wheatley in a scathing series of Insta stories.

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Speaker 1: Cyrel labeled the former Big Brother contestant as a fake

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Speaker 1: bitch and a bully. She then followed up by sharing

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Speaker 1: footage of an altercation between the two reality contestants. Now,

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Speaker 1: this was filmed on Tuesday night at an influencer packed

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Speaker 1: dinner on the Gold Coast, and ironically, the dinner was

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Speaker 1: a sponsorship event for well known mums to promote baby

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Speaker 1: Formula Kate. What caused the argument, Well, it all kicked

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Speaker 1: off when Sky questioned whether Cyrel's relationship with former Love

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Speaker 1: Island contestant Eden Dally was genuine. Now, just for some context,

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Speaker 1: Cyril and Eden began dating back in twenty nineteen, and

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Speaker 1: they actually met at fellow Math's contestant Jules Robinson's birthday party.

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Speaker 1: Now they were perapped multiple times in Sydney, kissing and cuddling,

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Speaker 1: with Cyrel confirming that they were dating on the show

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Speaker 1: talking married. So the fact that they were always getting

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Speaker 1: start questioning whether the romance was a publicity stunt, and

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Speaker 1: Jessica Power strengthened these rumors by claiming Eden had originally

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Speaker 1: asked her to be with him for publicity. So to

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Speaker 1: make matters worse, jess said that Eden had been bagging

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Speaker 1: Cyrel out behind her back, and then suddenly the next

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Speaker 1: week was claiming that he was in love with her now.

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Speaker 1: Jess's claims were apparently backed up by the couple's friends,

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Speaker 1: who said that they were only staying together to save

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Speaker 1: face despite the rumors. Five months into the relationships, Cyril

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Speaker 1: and Eden announced they expecting a child together. Things seemed

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Speaker 1: to be going well, and they even hosted a gender

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Speaker 1: reveal party together, but just weeks later, the couple confirmed

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Speaker 1: on Instagram that they'd split. Now fastward a couple of

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Speaker 1: February twenty twenty, so recently the couple marked three years together.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it has been that long since they've

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Speaker 1: accelerated everything. Now, Amy, what did Sky actually say? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I just want to set the scene for everyone. So

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Speaker 1: sitting next to Cyrel, Sky asked Cyrel how she met Eden.

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Speaker 1: She then said, I saw an article that said you

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Speaker 1: Cyrel's response is muffled, but it sounds like she told

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Speaker 1: Sky it was inappropriate to talk about what was in

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Speaker 1: the newspaper. So Ski responded saying, oh sorry, and Cyrel

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Speaker 1: just sounds like a huge, typical mass dinner party argument. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it appeared she was not reading Cyrel's tone at all,

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Speaker 1: because Sky followed up by saying, see, you were getting

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Speaker 1: who cares? I was gonna ask about it because I

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Speaker 1: wanted to know who said that. Now. Cyrel responded saying,

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Speaker 1: so I'm going to ask you are your lips real? No,

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Speaker 1: that's an inappropriate question. I don't need to ask that.

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Speaker 1: Don't be a smart aus bitch. Just know that. Don't

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Speaker 1: then went on to say, eat your food or I'll

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Speaker 1: clear in the video this Sky was a little bit intoxicated.

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Speaker 1: Cyrel started making those threats, Sky looked really shocked. Well,

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Speaker 1: it is quite a shocking thing to take place at

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Speaker 1: one that had wine thrown on her. Martha Califatita threw

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Speaker 1: because Cyrel mentioned on an Insta story that she had

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Speaker 1: And it seems like Cyreel's really pissed off that Sky

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm not surprised by the insensitive comments

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Speaker 1: Sky has responded, and despite saying that she didn't want

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Speaker 1: And Sky made the point that she doesn't get upset

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Speaker 1: Rumors are swirling that Sammy Robinson and Jordan Simmy have

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Speaker 1: to convince Sammy to get back within. I don't think

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Speaker 1: But she wouldn't be reading no PowerPoint brother, Do you

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Speaker 1: know what? I did say that, Sophie. But they meant

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Speaker 1: loves Sammy, so he's hoping that her audience will start

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Speaker 1: to love him. Well, I actually didn't notice until today

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Speaker 1: when I was doing a little bit of research that

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Speaker 1: Jordan had included Sammy in quite a few of his

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Speaker 1: YouTube videos. I'm not really a surprise. He's clearly trying

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Speaker 1: I thought it was like Byron Bay with Bae. Well,

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Speaker 1: my prediction is that Jordan has completely fucked up and

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Speaker 1: is either texting another girl or has been seen out

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Speaker 1: with a girl because he has an mo for it,

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Speaker 1: and it's quite clear that he is into sliding into

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Speaker 1: other influencers DMS. I hope this hasn't happened, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: it will be very interesting to see if they do

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Speaker 1: follow one another again and if this starts a cycle again.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, Jordan, why would you do that to

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Speaker 1: Sammy Robinson? We did show you that. Okay. If that

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Speaker 1: is the case, though, bloody hell, Well, I think that's

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