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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation. Having a baby is one

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Speaker 1: of the most precious gifts we can have, but for many,

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Speaker 1: me included, it's not an easy journey. It can be

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Speaker 1: a long and painful one to send you on an

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Speaker 1: emotional roller coaster. Some have happy endings and they're the

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Speaker 1: ones we hear about, but many don't. There's a new

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Speaker 1: show that begins tonight called Big Miracles, which gives an

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Speaker 1: insight into IVF, and it takes you on the journey

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Speaker 1: of couples who are trying for these little miracles. Lisa

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Speaker 1: McCune is narrating the show and she's with us now.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Lisa, Oh, good morning. How are you very well?

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Speaker 1: I did years of IVF and I just sort of

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Speaker 1: got through it. I kept working, and I dealt with

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Speaker 1: the slings and the arrows, as they say, But when

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Speaker 1: I watch someone else go through it, I become hugely,

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Speaker 1: hugely emotional. How did you feel following these couples?

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Speaker 2: Well, I kind of came to it and late in

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Speaker 2: the pieces the narrator and so I'm still in the

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Speaker 2: studio voicing the episodes as we go, and I'm so

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Speaker 2: emotionally caught up in journeys of these couples who are

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Speaker 2: so courageously sharing their stories. It's remarkable. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: very personal and we're therefore you know, the camera follows

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Speaker 2: them through, you know, leading up to their first IVF round.

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Speaker 2: All the couples have very slightly different scenarios as to

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Speaker 2: why they've come to IVF. Some people are freezing their eggs.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's really I think I've cried because it's hopeful,

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Speaker 2: and I've cried because at times there's great disappointment. It's

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Speaker 2: really remarkable seeing what these couples go through that I

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Speaker 2: didn't understand the science of IVF as much as I

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Speaker 2: mean New Manda, having been through it, would know, but

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Speaker 2: I'd only heard from friends. But seeing the process of

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Speaker 2: what happens, it's kind of amazing what the human body

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Speaker 2: can do and what to get pregnant. I'm a love if.

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Speaker 2: This is a lovely balance of human story science and

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Speaker 2: you know, and remarkable storytelling, I think.

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Speaker 3: And as an narrator, is it your first crack as

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Speaker 3: a narrator, Lisa, I've done some.

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Speaker 2: Books and things like that, but yeah, I kind of

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Speaker 2: come in and I'm just the person you don't see,

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Speaker 2: which I guess makes it a little bit different from

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Speaker 2: like a reality TV show. We've still got couples, but

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Speaker 2: the prize that they win is a baby if they

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Speaker 2: get pregnant, and so it's not really reality television. It

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Speaker 2: kind of really steers into documentary land a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I'm so thrilled to be part of it. I just

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Speaker 2: think it's a beautiful. It's a lovely step back from

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Speaker 2: having to fund something. It's just it's lovely just to

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Speaker 2: be sharing in this journey in a really little way.

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Speaker 1: Was there a particular couple that made an impression on.

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Speaker 2: You, Well, it's just you tend to kind of go

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Speaker 2: on board the way that you get any storyline through

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Speaker 2: each episode. But there's this gorgeous couple, Courtney and Woody,

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Speaker 2: who we met in the first episode. I mean, they're

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Speaker 2: all absolutely gorgeous, but Courtney. I think people will really

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Speaker 2: fall in love with Courtney because she's got this. She

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Speaker 2: just is so honest with her emotions. She's so she's

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Speaker 2: just so giving, and you think, how can you be

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Speaker 2: so giving when you're going through this process? And yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that their stories. I love following their story.

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Speaker 2: I really like following them all. Actually, it's really it's

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Speaker 2: kind of remarkable and the doctors, you know, we get

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Speaker 2: to hear, we talk to the doctors talk to us

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Speaker 2: and tell us what's happening to the couples, and we're

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Speaker 2: there when the phone calls come in after pregnancy tests.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's huge, it is huge, and one in six

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Speaker 1: Australians will experience in fertility, whether that's endometriosis for women

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Speaker 1: or men with low sperm councilor same sex couples relying

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Speaker 1: on surrogacy. It's it's a big part now of the

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Speaker 1: fertility story.

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Speaker 2: Aren't we lucky? Those science has really made so much

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Speaker 2: well and you know women of course we're leaving things

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Speaker 2: later as well. But you know, this morning, Amanda or

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Speaker 2: the third person that I've spoken to this morning us

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Speaker 2: to doing five radio interviews, who's done IVF. And also

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Speaker 2: the fact that we talk about it too. There's no

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Speaker 2: one of the girls was saying this morning that you know,

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Speaker 2: they did it very quietly and privately. But I think

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Speaker 2: shows like this make it a little more like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: we've got to journey. Like to be able to talk

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Speaker 2: about it is really great as well. You know, nobody

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Speaker 2: and yet somehow if there's a scare or anything, you

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Speaker 2: do have that support. So I think things like this

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Speaker 2: are great that we're talking about it, and it's been

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Speaker 2: great watching the men too, because it's not on next

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Speaker 2: female journey. We do have the same sex couple in

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Speaker 2: because the guys, you know, they're going through it as well.

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Speaker 2: And yet it's so much we're having to sit on

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Speaker 2: egratriebls and you know, it's fascinating, really.

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Speaker 3: Right, and it's on after marritive first sight, which is

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Speaker 3: sort of like, right, but that could be the next

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Speaker 3: thing in the future. You win a baby, this is

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Speaker 3: the next.

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Speaker 1: Pat Let's not hope because it is. It is a

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Speaker 1: Having a child, as we said, is one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest gifts and one of the hardest things to achieve.

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Speaker 3: If you can't until that journe into a teenager when

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Speaker 3: they're about.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen, well maybe that's the next thing you hand them

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Speaker 1: back and that gift on.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I know, pairing it with maps is like

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Speaker 2: I was saying to someone earlier, to you kind of

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Speaker 2: have your glass of wine with maps and then you

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Speaker 2: can sit down and have a cup of seam bickie

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Speaker 2: and and watch some Big Miracles. I think people will

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Speaker 2: be really inspired by it. And yeah, it's very moving

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Speaker 2: and it's joyous as well, so it's not just sad stories.

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Speaker 2: It's really joyful of course.

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Speaker 3: And you're doing the vo which is great.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm kind of I'm like the specter voice in

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Speaker 2: the background.

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Speaker 1: You're the glue, Lisa, You're the glue, the glue.

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Speaker 3: Always great to talk to you, Lisa. Big Miracles premier

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Speaker 3: is tonight nine o'clock on Channel nine and nine Now,

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Speaker 3: Lisa mcuwens.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, lovely to chat. Have a great day.

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Speaker 1: You to Lisa, thank you