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Speaker 1: This is a Will and Woody podcast mini.

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Speaker 2: But when you're in a rash, as you know.

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Speaker 1: My partner said me, she's thirty nine weeks pregnant and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, oh here we go.

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Speaker 1: Well okay, so this is what I want to talk about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is really what I want to talk about. I

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Speaker 1: feel like every parent to be is in some ways

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Speaker 1: lying about how excited they are, because it's not cool

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Speaker 3: So you think no one gets excited.

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Speaker 1: That's not fair. I'm generalizing. I'm just generalizing. I am generalizing,

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Speaker 1: but I'm excited. There's a part of me that's excited, yes,

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Speaker 1: but there's a part of me that is terrified, and

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Speaker 1: that's because it's a massive unknown and more importantly though.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, Yeah, yeah, definitely it should be.

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Speaker 1: Should be like, you know, the conversation I have with everyone.

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Speaker 1: People say to me, oh, like you know, will you know?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to be a great dad? Or you

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Speaker 1: must be so excited, or or even just things like hey,

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are that's what people say to me,

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Speaker 1: but they are all extrapolations of somebody else's experience with parenting.

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Speaker 1: It can't speak to my experience with parenting because I'm

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Speaker 1: not a parent yet. So I got asked to write

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Speaker 1: this piece for for nine dot com dot use specifically

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Speaker 1: Honey Honey Parenting. Actually that's yeah, that's writing for Honey Parenting.

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Speaker 1: Who would have thought the world's a strange place? But

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Speaker 1: that's where I write form and we put a link

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Speaker 1: the stories. But I actually got it right to She

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Speaker 1: got asked to write this piece a few weeks ago

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Speaker 1: by them, and I like, we'd love a piece from

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Speaker 1: I put it off. I literally put it off for

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Speaker 1: a whole month, and then I was like, shit, the

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Speaker 1: dad is like asking an astronaut what space is like

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Speaker 1: before they've been to space. Yeah, I've got no idea, but.

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Speaker 3: They would done a lot of research, I imagine.

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Speaker 1: Sure and sure, and I can do research as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a buzz to name a couple of astronauts. That's it.

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Speaker 3: They're not a fair bit about space, even before going

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Speaker 1: So there's a difference between intellectually understanding something and experientially

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Speaker 1: understanding something. I'm sure most parents would say there's no

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Speaker 1: amount of words that they can put on what the

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Speaker 1: feeling like is like of being a parent. But more importantly,

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Speaker 1: and this is the bit that gets me. The reason

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Speaker 1: don't know how I feel. I'm actually bloody scared.

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Speaker 4: What's the main if you get to like punctuate one thing,

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Speaker 4: the main fear here about parenthood, it's getting to what

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Speaker 1: But I think that's it though would I don't know?

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Speaker 3: And it is the fact that you don't know exactly,

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Speaker 1: The irony of it of all of that is that

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Speaker 1: that's the reason I wanted to be a parent. Parenting

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Speaker 1: because it was this massive unknown, the thing that I

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Speaker 3: Well let's not say that, but.

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Speaker 1: That's but that's the fear. Actually, the fear is that

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that you? Are you expecting? Are you terrified?

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Speaker 1: As I said, the article's up online, Will and what

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Speaker 1: you have a look at our stories? You can flick

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Speaker 1: through a nine dot com dot yourself. Otherwise give us

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Speaker 1: call talk about it up next. Thirty one O six five?

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Speaker 1: Are you're about to be a parent? I? Are you shitty?

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Speaker 1: That's all we're at. That's where I've written a piece.

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Speaker 1: I wrote a piece for nine dot com dot you

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Speaker 1: share a link on our socials for it. But I

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Speaker 1: I think it's a stupid question. The second piece for

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Speaker 3: Play to hit him will I like it? But it

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Speaker 1: It's a silly question because I've got no idea. And

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got Rebecca here. Rebecca, you're eighteen weeks pregnant.

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Speaker 5: To you as well. Will, thanks very much.

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Speaker 1: Well, or is it congratulations on the death wheel of

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Speaker 1: So it's a whole bag for women, obviously, because you're

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Speaker 1: obviously going to as the child, nurse the child, feed

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Speaker 3: I've heard about that. A few friends of mine have

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