Speaker 1: The Rising Conquer Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of the
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Speaker 1: We further acknowledge country throughout Australia and their connections to land,
Speaker 1: sea and community. We pay our respect to their elders
Speaker 1: past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal
Speaker 1: and terrest Rate Islander peoples today. Hello and welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts.
Speaker 2: This is the podcast for ordinary.
Speaker 1: People who want to do extraordinary things.
Speaker 2: I think now especially with women having you know, people
Speaker 2: to look to and stories to hear about, it's so
Speaker 2: nice to see that you can truly do whatever you want. Yeah,
Speaker 2: whatever you put your mind to, you really have endless opportunity.
Speaker 1: Hello and welcome back to the Rising Conker Podcast. It
Speaker 1: is your host, Georgie Stevenson, lawyer turned entrepreneur, business owner,
Speaker 1: new mum and all the things. So you guys may
Speaker 1: have noticed, but I'm off the Gram this week because
Speaker 1: I've got a lot.
Speaker 2: Happening in the background.
Speaker 1: We are finally doing our move And I actually had
Speaker 1: a girlfriend who took a week off social media and
Speaker 1: she said it was just the best for her mental health.
Speaker 2: And to like.
Speaker 1: Regroup, and so I thought, why not take a week
Speaker 1: off social media, get the house sorted, and then come
Speaker 1: back refreshed for you guys. So, guys, I've got to
Speaker 1: replay episode for you. I am interviewed by none other
Speaker 1: than Rachel Dylon.
Speaker 2: Guys, I'm obsessed with her.
Speaker 1: We are so obsessed with her. She is just ultimate
Speaker 1: fitness gal, ultimate girl boss, all the vibes, all of them,
Speaker 1: all the vibes. Me and Tear are obsessed and she's
Speaker 1: got her MWU podcasts move with us podcasts. So in
Speaker 1: the chat, we talk about setting boundaries, we talk about
Speaker 1: manifesting of course because I'm involved, and we also talk
Speaker 1: about breaking down, limiting beliefs and so much. And it
Speaker 1: was just such a lovely chat. I wanted to repurpose
Speaker 1: it here for you guys to hear. If you haven't,
Speaker 1: make sure you go and follow Rachel. You probably already
Speaker 1: are shy.
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't have.
Speaker 1: To shout her out, but if you're not, I love
Speaker 1: her because she's fitness and health, but it's still relatable.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel intimidating, you know, She's still such a
Speaker 1: relatable gal. Hey, Tia absolutely and I love that she doesn't.
Speaker 1: It's not like she has all day to work out
Speaker 1: because her workouts.
Speaker 2: The ones she shares on Instagram are super easy to
Speaker 2: follow and very quick. Yes, oh guys, I actually did her.
Speaker 2: I think it was called a Busy Girl Challenge Busy
Speaker 2: gal oh, the Busy Girl workout.
Speaker 1: Yes, I actually bought and did her Busy Girl Challenge,
Speaker 1: which on her app they just give you like thirty
Speaker 1: minute workouts and that's what I did when I first
Speaker 1: got back into the gym postpartum, just because I don't know,
Speaker 1: a workout more than thirty minutes was just a bit
Speaker 1: intimidating for me, and I wanted to like get back
Speaker 1: into it. And obviously I am a busy Galt and
Speaker 1: so I loved that. So yeah, you're so right, a
Speaker 1: tr She's very relatable all her content. It's just also,
Speaker 1: I guess sometimes I find fitness content to just be
Speaker 1: a bit hardcore and a bit like in your face,
Speaker 1: and I just feel like she does all or nothing,
Speaker 1: all or nothing, and she's just.
Speaker 2: Not like that.
Speaker 1: So you guys are gonna love her. You're going to
Speaker 1: love this chat. Let's get straight into it.
Speaker 2: Tell everyone a little bit about you how you started
Speaker 2: health and fitness, how you started your businesses, and how
Speaker 2: pretty much you're just the boss ass bitch.
Speaker 1: You on all right, do you have all day? Because
Speaker 1: it's a long storry.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: So health journey really started. I feel like it's the
Speaker 1: very typical every girl my age, where I you know,
Speaker 1: left high school, started university, started the whole turning eighteen, drinking, partying,
Speaker 1: putting on a bit of weight, just getting older, really
Speaker 1: getting into a woman's body, and turned around one day
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I need to lose weight.
Speaker 1: Then it started, you know, a whole heap of diets
Speaker 1: and vicious cycles of.
Speaker 2: Losing weight and putting it back.
Speaker 1: On all those fun things. So my health journey really
Speaker 1: started off probably a bit toxic. And you know, this
Speaker 1: is ten years ago, so that's like right where it
Speaker 1: was like diet culture. Oh yeah, yeah, So that started,
Speaker 1: and then I had to go through the whole journey
Speaker 1: of healing my body, healing my body image, just getting
Speaker 1: back to the basics and just getting into a better
Speaker 1: relationship with myself and my body. And I feel like
Speaker 1: I've you know, come full circle and feel really good
Speaker 1: with that. And then that's what has so I definitely
Speaker 1: used to be a lot more into the health and
Speaker 1: fitness with my influencing and on Instagram and YouTube, Like
Speaker 1: I remember I had a whole series on like wedgshed
Speaker 1: Like I know, I'm cringing now, but that was definitely
Speaker 1: my vibe. And I remember on Instagram when my account
Speaker 1: really kind of like blew up Ale got bigger, was
Speaker 1: a before and after photo. Yeah, when that was all
Speaker 1: the craze and it would, you know, go viral and whatnot.
Speaker 1: So that's really how I started and how I got
Speaker 1: into health and fitness, and then my love for health
Speaker 1: and fitness really started when I had to go through
Speaker 1: this whole journey of unlearning a lot of things.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, isn't it crazy how much relearning,
Speaker 2: unlearning and relearning we have to train ourselves into doing
Speaker 2: all because of well, I would say, very much like
Speaker 2: lack of education. But in saying that, lack of information,
Speaker 2: Like ten years ago, there was nothing around we saw,
Speaker 2: you know, we were marketed in a certain way, a
Speaker 2: certain way. You know, you go the shops and lofat
Speaker 2: low Car blows that our moms were always dieting, Like yes,
Speaker 2: it was just diet culture was such a big thing,
Speaker 2: and it was constantly like what we were sort of yeah,
Speaker 2: like and we just rounded.
Speaker 1: We didn't have the knowledge that that was diet culture. No,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean like we had we had no
Speaker 1: awareness about it. And obviously we've come such a long
Speaker 1: way and thank god, Yeah, wouldn't have survived.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how we did for so long. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then I guess that relationship of really wanting to
Speaker 1: get into health for better reasons, the right reasons is
Speaker 1: then shaped me into start Naked Harvest, and you know,
Speaker 1: going on that journey. And then I also have a
Speaker 1: background of I did a law degree, I worked in
Speaker 1: family law. Realized it wasn't my vibe or actually it
Speaker 1: was completely my vibe, but realize, I guess I wanted
Speaker 1: to do something with a bit more purpose that really
Speaker 1: like lit me up.
Speaker 2: And so I had this you know.
Speaker 1: Big crossroads of like do I quit my corporate job
Speaker 1: and go off and do this influencing And then that
Speaker 1: all led to starting Naked Harvest. And then as you said,
Speaker 1: I've got my podcast because a huge, huge thing I
Speaker 1: realized is as women, I feel like we don't have
Speaker 1: the you know, go after what you want take a risk,
Speaker 1: start a business.
Speaker 2: I just that was never instilled in me one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And that's something that I'm just huge on educating other
Speaker 1: women and advocating for and so that's when the personal
Speaker 1: development side of my business started. And so I also
Speaker 1: do that, and I've got a manifest in course and
Speaker 1: like you said, a little baby id.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you lot's going on busy. It's funny
Speaker 2: you say that because Emma was actually in a very
Speaker 2: similar situation. She had got her law degree and had
Speaker 2: practiced for quite a few years. So she worked with
Speaker 2: my dad. He has his own law firm, and you know,
Speaker 2: she got to a stage where I was sort of
Speaker 2: doing what I was doing, and she was so passionate
Speaker 2: about health and fitness, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: at this stage, we weren't really online, and I was like,
Speaker 2: you just just leave your job and do what you love.
Speaker 2: And it was it was such a big decision for her,
Speaker 2: but again, she didn't really have anyone to look at
Speaker 2: or to look to for that advice. It was sort
Speaker 2: of like, Okay, I'm going to do this and just
Speaker 2: make the most of it. But I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people they don't take that risk because you know
Speaker 2: it's scary.
Speaker 1: But isn't it funny that you said that was such
Speaker 1: a big decision, whereas like when you look at you know,
Speaker 1: I guess it's getting quite cheesy, but like, you only
Speaker 1: have one life. Would you rather do it? You know,
Speaker 1: doing something you love or just trying it seeing what
Speaker 1: fins or sticking to the safe option. And it's really
Speaker 1: sad because I feel like what society really implements on
Speaker 1: us is no safe option. Don't take the risks, don't
Speaker 1: do anything crazy.
Speaker 2: Finish school, go to university like my box. Yeah so
Speaker 2: doctor teacher or lawyer. That was sort of like the
Speaker 2: main thing. Uh yeah, very much. So you know, people
Speaker 2: weren't changing jobs ten years ago. It wasn't like normal
Speaker 2: to go to and from different jobs and to find
Speaker 2: your passion. It was like peak one job work and
Speaker 2: work is work and then you have your life instead
Speaker 2: of being like, well how can I still live doing
Speaker 2: what I enjoy?
Speaker 1: And I think it's also because like, for example, my
Speaker 1: parents come from a background where they really came from nothing.
Speaker 1: They you know, migrated from England and really started with
Speaker 1: nothing and had to really build their way up. So
Speaker 1: my parents have a plumbing business. So it was very
Speaker 1: much hard work and you don't.
Speaker 2: Enjoy your job.
Speaker 1: You're working for money, and we're not out here to
Speaker 1: go find ourselves or be creative. It's let's work for money,
Speaker 1: let's provide for our families, and that's all that matters.
Speaker 1: So and I feel like so many people had that
Speaker 1: background too, and that belief. So when you had that in,
Speaker 1: you know, really instilled and you it is hard to
Speaker 1: venture out. It is hard to take a risk, and
Speaker 1: it is hard to even have enough belief in yourself
Speaker 1: that that is possible.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not encouraged. So even my parents, who I
Speaker 2: would say are the most uplifting, beautiful people, you know,
Speaker 2: did everything to give us every opportunity they could. I
Speaker 2: told my dad I was at university at the time.
Speaker 2: I said I want to become a personal trainer and
Speaker 2: he was like no, So.
Speaker 1: To say, how did that go down?
Speaker 2: He's like, no, that's not a real job, like you
Speaker 2: need to go to university and this and that, and
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I want to be a personal trainer.
Speaker 2: So at the time, my partner he actually bought me
Speaker 2: my PT courses and I sort of did them on
Speaker 2: the side and then I started building, you know, a
Speaker 2: personal training business. And I remember my dad would always
Speaker 2: say to me, okay, yes, but what about in two
Speaker 2: years time is this still going to be around? Is
Speaker 2: this still a thing? Are you looking ahead? What about
Speaker 2: six months time? What about this anyway? Now? He claims
Speaker 2: he never said it, but I love it. He definitely
Speaker 2: said it, and so as I like, you know, your
Speaker 2: parents want the best for you. So and I understand that.
Speaker 2: You know, back then it wasn't normally you went to
Speaker 2: university and you got education. And I still did do that,
Speaker 2: but I really wish i'd followed my passion two years
Speaker 2: four years prior, you know, I didn't probably need to
Speaker 2: go to university. So I think now, especially with women
Speaker 2: having you know, people to look to and stories to
Speaker 2: hear about, it's so nice to see that you can
Speaker 2: truly do whatever you want, whatever you put your mind to,
Speaker 2: you really have endless opportunity. I love that.
Speaker 1: And like you said, it's you almost just need a
Speaker 1: story of opportunity. And like like you said, like I
Speaker 1: very much remembered the day that I sat my parents down.
Speaker 1: So this is after five years of university, one year
Speaker 1: of doing my pelt, which is yeah, it's like going
Speaker 1: for the bar and also three years of like working
Speaker 1: this law firm, working you know, my way up to
Speaker 1: a great position and sitting them down and being like, hey,
Speaker 1: so I'm not actually going to do laws actually, could
Speaker 1: you like imagine my parents are like, yeah, my dad
Speaker 1: was just like having a conniption.
Speaker 2: But they didn't understand it either. They're like what is this?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, what is this thing?
Speaker 2: What is this?
Speaker 1: And so it's wild. But that's why I'm such a
Speaker 1: huge advocate because I think it's like, you know, the
Speaker 1: whole thing of like the four minute mile, where it's
Speaker 1: like before no one could do a mile and four
Speaker 1: minutes or I can't. Actually I don't actually know if
Speaker 1: that's the fact or whatever. Bit yeah I understand, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then someone broke it, and
Speaker 1: then all these people started breaking it. It's because they
Speaker 1: just needed to see someone do it and then you
Speaker 1: know they could go and do it. And so that's why, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so big on you know, helping other women just see
Speaker 1: their potential, because you do, you just you fall into,
Speaker 1: you know, beliefs that I can't do that. Oh she's special,
Speaker 1: you know, she's had this, she's had that.
Speaker 2: Don't you remember. So back in the day when I
Speaker 2: people inspired me, I remember I'd always say to myself, Oh,
Speaker 2: but it must have just been the right time. She
Speaker 2: was lucky, she was this, she was that anyway. And
Speaker 2: then I started to put in the work and you know,
Speaker 2: follow the process, and I was like, Yep, no, she
Speaker 2: was not lucky. She's worked really really hard to be there.
Speaker 2: And I think that, Like it's funny. Actually put some
Speaker 2: up on Instagram the other day and it was sort
Speaker 2: of like what people, you know, potentially perceive of you,
Speaker 2: and people like, oh, you've had it easy, your business
Speaker 2: is are effortless this and that. I'm just like, Oh,
Speaker 2: if only you knew guys like and as you would
Speaker 2: know yourself, It's so far from the truth. You know,
Speaker 2: running businesses is by far the hardest thing I've ever
Speaker 2: done in my entire life.
Speaker 1: And also, like to put that in perspective, there are
Speaker 1: so many influencers who have started businesses and failed, who
Speaker 1: have the same audience, who have you know, that sort
Speaker 1: of thing, So one hundred percent I cannot stand that.
Speaker 1: And also something that I chat about because a lot
Speaker 1: of people when we talk about like you know, launching
Speaker 1: Naked Harvest and the success of that, and they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you launched off having an audience, and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, but that audience took eight years to build.
Speaker 1: That audience took eight years of posting day after day
Speaker 1: feet content, being authentic, you know, curating, building trust. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and while working full time, while I'm doing a degree.
Speaker 1: I know, it's not like it doesn't make sense instantly,
Speaker 1: but it all adds up.
Speaker 2: And also even when you launch, it's still then the
Speaker 2: education around it. It's not like every single people think
Speaker 2: like every single follower of yours has just gone and
Speaker 2: bought Naked Harvest. That's just that's just not how I wish.
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, everything is a process, and there's
Speaker 2: so much that you put into things, I guess behind
Speaker 2: the scenes that you know, people don't see. And I
Speaker 2: guess it's important for us to talk about those things
Speaker 2: and to bring them to life, because you know, the
Speaker 2: last thing I ever want people to think is that
Speaker 2: things are effortless, because I can tell you right now,
Speaker 2: nothing worth it is ever effortless. And yeah, businesses in
Speaker 2: themselves are just such complex, such complex things, aren't they.
Speaker 1: And I think also like it can be. It can feel,
Speaker 1: it can feel effortless while you're putting in hard work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for example, I would one hundred percent pick doing what
Speaker 1: I do over anything because of how much love and
Speaker 1: purpose I had for it, have for it.
Speaker 2: But it's still hard work.
Speaker 1: But because I believe I'm in alignment and I'm truly
Speaker 1: living out my purpose in life, it does feel easy
Speaker 1: in a way, but like you said, it's still day in,
Speaker 1: day out, you know, habits, it's hard work. It's putting
Speaker 1: in that effort.
Speaker 2: So it's like you don't want to get it twisted
Speaker 2: in that way. Oh no, not at all. And you know,
Speaker 2: often I feel like, well, my biggest learnings aren't even
Speaker 2: really in Like I love product, I love brand, I
Speaker 2: love all of that sort of stuff, the front end stuff.
Speaker 2: I think, Nelly, it's harder as you start to build
Speaker 2: out a business. You need to learn all these new
Speaker 2: skills that I was never taught, like people, management, processors, systems,
Speaker 2: you know, onboarding, like all these things that I was like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, Like I just love creating workouts and you know, activewear.
Speaker 2: So for me, like it was, you know, you're sort
Speaker 2: of forced into these areas of like you know, not
Speaker 2: knowing and they're definitely probably would have been my biggest
Speaker 2: challenges within business and learning you know, how to how
Speaker 2: to be a leader, yeah, how to manage people correctly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and also yeah, make sure your team's happy, you know, like,
Speaker 2: which is super important.
Speaker 1: And also I guess a big thing for me, like
Speaker 1: just piggybacking off that is also learning when to bring
Speaker 1: in help. Oh yeah, Like I think a lot of people, like,
Speaker 1: for example, from the start with Naked Harvest, we had
Speaker 1: help even though we weren't making money. For me, it
Speaker 1: was like I believed in, you know, the mission so much.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people won't almost risk
Speaker 1: it because they're like they're told, oh, you shouldn't hire
Speaker 1: until you're making money, or you shouldn't do this until
Speaker 1: that bit. For example, knowing when your zoner genius like
Speaker 1: isn't the job and you need help and getting that
Speaker 1: help before it gets to a shit show was also
Speaker 1: so important.
Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent. And I guess also yeah, like
Speaker 2: I know, through our hiring process, I've like there's been
Speaker 2: a lot of success and there's been a lot of learning.
Speaker 2: You know, I never liked let's see, Yeah, let's use
Speaker 2: that word learning. Yeah, it's a lesson. Yeah, it's been.
Speaker 2: It's been a fun journey. But talk to me more
Speaker 2: about I guess you know you're now a mum, you
Speaker 2: run two businesses. How you know, how are you managing
Speaker 2: all of that? And we have briefly chatted about this
Speaker 2: off off Mike and I think it's amazing. But yeah,
Speaker 2: talk to us about this new chapter of your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, First of all, being a mom.
Speaker 2: As wild I can imagine. Yeah, I'm a mom and
Speaker 2: I feel like dressful enough.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I had two fur babies before IV. It was
Speaker 1: weird how I just said that. But anyway, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, very much new chapter of my life.
Speaker 1: It's definitely being a mom is the hardest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever done. Like, I know, everyone says that, and everyone's
Speaker 1: like kids change your life and you're like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yah, hyeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they do. It's like it's so wild.
Speaker 1: It has been such a transformation and adventure.
Speaker 2: But I love it.
Speaker 1: I fucking love it.
Speaker 2: Can I swear in this podcast? Yeah? Cool? I love it.
Speaker 1: And it's been first of all, like much like Emma,
Speaker 1: it's just been a bit of a process to get here.
Speaker 2: So to us briefly about that too. Yeah, so me
Speaker 2: and my partner, and I think also growing up, like
Speaker 2: you're kind of told, you know, make do you wear
Speaker 2: protection because have sex ones and you'll get pregnant. It's
Speaker 2: just like you grow up, you have sex and you
Speaker 2: have a baby. Yeah no, wait, you get married, you
Speaker 2: have sex and you have a baby. That's the no
Speaker 2: sex before marriage. Come oh no. And if you don't
Speaker 2: wear a condom, you're pregnant, like it's instantly.
Speaker 1: Pregnant and that, and so you spend most of your
Speaker 1: twenties trying not to get pregnant and you know, making sure.
Speaker 1: And so when you do want to get pregnant, you
Speaker 1: literally think, okay, first month, you know it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: And so they do say, you know, three to six months.
Speaker 2: But I was like, first months come up. Every time
Speaker 2: you have sex, it is like me done another baby,
Speaker 2: And look that wasn't that wasn't the case.
Speaker 1: And so me and my partner, you know, we're trying
Speaker 1: for around a year. And also I'm a super proactive
Speaker 1: and like very much I don't a bit of a
Speaker 1: control for clearly, and I don't like wait for things.
Speaker 1: So literally kind of got to the third month and
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, whoa, WHOA, what's happening here? And
Speaker 1: I went to the doctors. I started getting test done,
Speaker 1: and basically I found out my health wasn't where it
Speaker 1: should be. And so honestly, it was a blessing disguise
Speaker 1: because I found out I had hashimotos and all these issues,
Speaker 1: which eventually led me to getting my implants out because
Speaker 1: they were making me unwell, and.
Speaker 2: Then I also had a miscarriage.
Speaker 1: Basically, with the miscarriage, it was really weird because I
Speaker 1: had literally just left my endocrinologist, which is like a
Speaker 1: hormone doctor, and she had just told me we'd been
Speaker 1: trying for like eight months at this point, and she
Speaker 1: just had told me I was infertile because my hormones
Speaker 1: were so out of whack because basically my body was
Speaker 1: attacking my implants and giving me like mimicking an autoimmune
Speaker 1: disease called hashimotos, So my actual levels of hormones, like
Speaker 1: she said to me, you could not maintain a pregnancy,
Speaker 1: and it's actually really dangerous if you were to get pregnant.
Speaker 2: So no joker.
Speaker 1: I left that appointment and then found out I was
Speaker 1: pregnant a week later, and so when I found out,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, like miracle, baby, this
Speaker 1: is meant to be. They straight away put me on
Speaker 1: like thyroid medication because they were like, holy shit, this
Speaker 1: is not good. But also let's just see what happens.
Speaker 1: And sadly, I had a miscarriage because my body just
Speaker 1: couldn't maintain the pregnancy. But looking back again, I'm such
Speaker 1: a big believer in like universe surrendering or meant to be,
Speaker 1: because then I booked in to get my implants out.
Speaker 2: I got my implants back. I remember following this, my
Speaker 2: health instantly got better.
Speaker 1: The disease I was diagnosed with, Hashimotos, is like one
Speaker 1: you can't cure, but it was so basically the doctors
Speaker 1: realized that I didn't actually have hashimotos. My implants were
Speaker 1: mimicking this disease. If that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So yeah, the long story shot, because it's
Speaker 2: a big one.
Speaker 1: Six months later, I got pregnant with Ivy. I was
Speaker 1: able to like heal a lot in that six months
Speaker 1: and get my health to a point where I could
Speaker 1: maintain a pregnancy, because oh my god, pregnancy is like
Speaker 1: so hard on your body. I couldn't imagine doing it
Speaker 1: previously because I just had so many health issues before.
Speaker 2: You like obviously try and having a baby. Were you
Speaker 2: aware of anything that was different or yeah, so and
Speaker 2: this is the thing.
Speaker 1: So with breast implant illness, I feel like the symptoms
Speaker 1: really slowly creep on. It's not like one day I
Speaker 1: woke up and I was like, holy shit, I feel
Speaker 1: like crap. It's like for years I had had been
Speaker 1: feeling these sentence, but the symptoms are like fatigue, Like
Speaker 1: you know, I had gone to a million doctors too,
Speaker 1: and everyone just said, you work too hard. You know,
Speaker 1: you're running two businesses, You're doing a lot, you need
Speaker 1: to take a holiday. So all my symptoms were very
Speaker 1: much related to my adrenals, like failing, if that makes sense,
Speaker 1: like fatigue. So I had fatigue, I had like hair loss,
Speaker 1: body aches, feeling cold all the time, skin dryness, just
Speaker 1: not feeling good, which is really hard to pinpoint because
Speaker 1: a lot of those symptoms are related to so many
Speaker 1: other things. So no one could really figure it out
Speaker 1: until and like my thyroid was a little bit off,
Speaker 1: but like the doctor wasn't too concerned and he didn't
Speaker 1: refer me to an endocrinologist, which looking back, he published
Speaker 1: of anyway, So I had a lot of those symptoms.
Speaker 1: So but in saying that, I had dealt with those
Speaker 1: symptoms for probably like three years, so I had almost
Speaker 1: learned to.
Speaker 2: Live with them. I was going to say, they've kind
Speaker 2: of felt like the normal.
Speaker 1: As I say, and that's what life felt like. I
Speaker 1: thought it was quite normal to feel that way, but
Speaker 1: now how I feel, I'm like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so do you just made the decision yourself,
Speaker 2: Like no one encouraged you to do it or.
Speaker 1: To get my implants out? So I had I was
Speaker 1: telling people on Instagram how I was feeling, what was
Speaker 1: going on, and I had a lot of people message
Speaker 1: me to say to look into it. So then I
Speaker 1: started looking into it. I got on the Facebook page.
Speaker 1: There's this whole website, and then I spoke to my endocrinologists.
Speaker 1: And even though like a lot of doctors are like
Speaker 1: they can't yeah, yeah, she's like, I can't tell you exactly,
Speaker 1: but I can tell your body is attacking itself. And
Speaker 1: because usually hashimotos runs in your family and like no
Speaker 1: one in my family has it, so there was she's
Speaker 1: just like, I think you have Hashi motives, but it
Speaker 1: kind of doesn't make sense, but you know, this could
Speaker 1: be it, and the way that I felt and with
Speaker 1: my infertility, I was like, you know, if this was
Speaker 1: to help even ten percent, it would be worth it,
Speaker 1: just because of how I was feeling. So and also
Speaker 1: by that stage too, I had my implants for eight years,
Speaker 1: Like I got my implants when I was like twenty one,
Speaker 1: where it was like all the craze to do it
Speaker 1: and I wanted to look a certain way, and I
Speaker 1: feel like I've really come such a long way with
Speaker 1: how I look does not define me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, how did you feel getting
Speaker 2: them out? Amazing?
Speaker 1: And also now like I love, you know, my kitty bitties,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not interested in looking a certain way or
Speaker 1: in no way does it do I identify, you know,
Speaker 1: with that image. So really it was quite liberating to
Speaker 1: be fully myself, to feel fully like this is Georgie
Speaker 1: in all her raw glory, and I fucking love it.
Speaker 1: So it was such a beautiful kind of like journey.
Speaker 1: Obviously at the time it was like quite horrific and
Speaker 1: not great, and I felt very like lost, and you know,
Speaker 1: everything was happening, but now I can look back with
Speaker 1: hindsight and go, wow, my, you know, infertility led me
Speaker 1: to realizing this health issue, realizing to get my implants out.
Speaker 1: I now feel so much better, and then of course
Speaker 1: led to Ivy girl, which is she's my life.
Speaker 2: So it all worked out, it did, and so you know,
Speaker 2: it's been how old tving now?
Speaker 1: Five months?
Speaker 2: I know she's still so tiny? Is she a tiny baby? No,
Speaker 2: she's so big. Oh, I feel like she looks tiny.
Speaker 1: She's like to put this in perspective, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure as look you're looking at me. So I'm
Speaker 1: a shorty and my husband is like not that tall
Speaker 1: and she was in like the ninety nine percentile for height.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she came out got a model.
Speaker 2: I know, she has long limbs and long hands and
Speaker 2: but yeah, she's really really cute and she's like so
Speaker 2: chubby and just like a little muffin. So delicious, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so delicious. And so you're back at work already, So
Speaker 2: five months after having a baby and you're back doing
Speaker 2: your thing. So how how's that working for you? And
Speaker 2: how do you manage that? Yeah, so let's chat about that,
Speaker 2: because I feel like there's so much stigma and around
Speaker 2: going back to work when you have a baby, and
Speaker 2: like judgment and also saying that you love it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it's not allowed to have a love for more
Speaker 2: than you know your child, which.
Speaker 1: Isn't exactly and because I think, you know, I come
Speaker 1: from a background where I have three other siblings and
Speaker 1: my mum was a stay at home mum and literally
Speaker 1: like the best most maternal person ever.
Speaker 2: I was like, how am I ever going to be?
Speaker 1: Like, literally, I cannot beat you. And so I come
Speaker 1: from that background where it's like, you know, dad went
Speaker 1: out and worked, mom stayed home, very that sort of vibe.
Speaker 1: So in our relationship, I literally from I remember when
Speaker 1: I wanted to do law and I've been with my
Speaker 1: partner for over ten years and we met. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we met when I was seventeen.
Speaker 2: Oh high school steathearts, No Oh. I met him like
Speaker 2: just after just after I had just like finished schoolies
Speaker 2: and then we started talking talking shotting on what emsn.
Speaker 1: It was Facebook.
Speaker 2: Facebook was around, yeah, And so we've been to other
Speaker 2: ten years and I actually remember saying to him when
Speaker 2: I was seventeen, look, I'm going to do my law degree.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be principal by the time I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, thirty, So if you want kids, you have
Speaker 1: to look after them.
Speaker 2: I remember saying that you put it she and he
Speaker 2: down straight saw and he goes sounds good to me,
Speaker 2: Like he was like, can't wait, can't wait to be
Speaker 2: a stay with her dad.
Speaker 1: He's very maternal and like the most loving human. So
Speaker 1: from the start we had like I probably said that
Speaker 1: more in a joking way, but I set that boundary
Speaker 1: from the start because I always knew I wouldn't just
Speaker 1: be a stay at home mom, which honestly, now that
Speaker 1: I've had a child, moms are probably oh yeah, like superheroes.
Speaker 1: Anyone who like stay at home moms. I just can't.
Speaker 2: It's the most underrated job. Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just remember two weeks after having Ivan calling my
Speaker 1: mum crying, being like, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: I was a horrible child and you are God's gift
Speaker 2: to earth the appreciation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I always had the plan. So obviously since
Speaker 1: I found out I was pregnant, we always had the
Speaker 1: plan of I would take three months fully off work,
Speaker 1: and we you know, really backtracked and worked hard, so
Speaker 1: you know, no one could call me and all the
Speaker 1: businesses could run and it could all be fine.
Speaker 2: So which is hard to do. So wow, especially when
Speaker 2: I literally gave birth around like Black Fridays.
Speaker 1: But no, oh my god, my team's amazing. So we
Speaker 1: were so prepped and everything was, you know, really in
Speaker 1: the work so I could have that time. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: so always been the plan with my partner that he
Speaker 1: would stay at home and I would go back to work.
Speaker 2: And to be completely honest, I started going back to
Speaker 2: work after two months. Wow. Yeah, so it was only
Speaker 2: like one or two days a week. But I just
Speaker 2: I love what I do. I literally love it. It
Speaker 2: lights me up.
Speaker 1: And I know you're probably like not supposed to say
Speaker 1: that as a new mum, but like I said, because
Speaker 1: there's stigma around it, But I love what I do.
Speaker 2: I love what I.
Speaker 1: Put out into you know, the universe. I love my
Speaker 1: community and that's very much a part of my identity
Speaker 1: and your purpose and my purpose and so you know.
Speaker 1: And also Ivy at that point, when she was two
Speaker 1: months old, she started sleeping through the night, so like
Speaker 1: me and Tim would literally be around the house like
Speaker 1: watching movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like this is awesome. So and so Tim, Tim
Speaker 2: stays at home with her full time.
Speaker 1: I have gone back to work now three days a week,
Speaker 1: creeping up to four sometimes, and then when I'm not
Speaker 1: at work, I'm obviously spending all my time with her,
Speaker 1: and it works for us.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, and you're your best self when
Speaker 2: you're you know, doing what you love. You're like, you're
Speaker 2: the best mom to Ivy when you were, you know,
Speaker 2: your best self. So she's really getting the best of
Speaker 2: both worlds. And I think, you know, dads can go
Speaker 2: back to work and like that's not really question. Their
Speaker 2: love's never questioned, I know. So it's like, why interesting?
Speaker 2: Why is the mom's love question?
Speaker 1: So this is really interesting. Last night, someone commented on
Speaker 1: a video of me and Ivy where we were kissing
Speaker 1: and she was literally patching me, like whoa. And someone
Speaker 1: commented and said, I followed you forever and this is
Speaker 1: the happiest I've ever seen you. And I screenshot at
Speaker 1: posta Emma was like, like.
Speaker 2: This is literally so true. She literally completes me.
Speaker 1: I am not I always said I'm not a maternal person,
Speaker 1: but like now I just could not live without her.
Speaker 1: And it's like, obviously that's how you feel about a child,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you have one, and you're like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: this is what everyone's talking about.
Speaker 2: I know. I can definitely like, yeah, understand that, even
Speaker 2: like seeing my sister, like she's always like oh yeah,
Speaker 2: like you know when it happens, when it happens. But
Speaker 2: I just know like when that baby comes, she's gonna
Speaker 2: be like I see it, Brian, I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: yeah just wait.
Speaker 1: You just wait, yeah and sorry, just go back to that.
Speaker 1: So I actually had someone comment on that and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you've gone back to work and done like the
Speaker 1: eye imaging when the eyes like oh yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: basically saying, oh, you love your daughter so much, but
Speaker 1: you've gone back to work. And I just thought no
Speaker 1: one would ever question a father, oh no, who works,
Speaker 1: who provides for their family going back to work and
Speaker 1: go do you really love your baby?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you know?
Speaker 1: I mean, And I just think it's so sexist and
Speaker 1: like the bloody patriarchy.
Speaker 2: But also but also people I'm sure would have something
Speaker 2: to say about Tim being a stay at home dads
Speaker 2: like but why is that up? Not? Yeah, who made
Speaker 2: these rules that depending on your sex you have certain
Speaker 2: things that you know, like boxes, you should be placed in.
Speaker 2: And it's just like, yeah, no.
Speaker 1: Such a huge I'm such a huge believer and such
Speaker 1: like a big advocate for like you know, like stop
Speaker 1: trying to fit yourself into a box. You get to
Speaker 1: decide what your beliefs are. You get to create your reality,
Speaker 1: like stop trying to fit in these arbitrary things. Because
Speaker 1: once you literally like don't do that anymore, and you
Speaker 1: decide what feels good for you going off, like you
Speaker 1: know your desires, how you want to live your life.
Speaker 1: It is so liberating. And when that person commented, I
Speaker 1: honestly just felt sorry for that person.
Speaker 2: I just have a reflection of that.
Speaker 1: You are so close minded and obviously if you have
Speaker 1: those beliefs, you would just have so limiting beliefs around
Speaker 1: your life. And it's just it's so sad to some
Speaker 1: people think like that.
Speaker 2: And is this sort of part of what you teach
Speaker 2: in your courses your manifesting courses? Yes, yeah, so very much.
Speaker 2: Do you want to get into it? Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: I was like, how do I Oh, my gosh, it's
Speaker 1: a whole big thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's very much like a huge thing, you know,
Speaker 1: like when I market my courses, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: this is a self development and manifesting course, and I
Speaker 1: can help you attract what you want be who you
Speaker 1: want to be. But such a huge thing of the
Speaker 1: course is really disarming. These beliefs that we have around
Speaker 1: our identity and who we think we have to be
Speaker 1: that are actually so limiting and they're not actual truths.
Speaker 1: They're just beliefs that we've got from childhood sum for
Speaker 1: so long.
Speaker 2: So it's like trying to like untrain and unlearn that is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's really difficult.
Speaker 1: Much like you said, with fitness and health, we had
Speaker 1: to literally reprogram ourselves from this diet culture you know,
Speaker 1: ten years ago to now be at like a balanced,
Speaker 1: happy place for the health. It is also the exact
Speaker 1: same with our beliefs around you know, really around yourself
Speaker 1: and what you believe you were worthy for. That's really
Speaker 1: honestly the CrOx of it, I guess. Also in regards
Speaker 1: to manifesting, I really kind of sometimes I don't even
Speaker 1: like using the term manifesting because I feel like some
Speaker 1: people like airy fairy.
Speaker 2: Oh so I'm just going to think of a million
Speaker 2: dollars and then have it.
Speaker 1: It's like, ah, it's not really how it works. But like,
Speaker 1: for example, let's get into like my method of manifestation,
Speaker 1: and obviously there's it goes so deeper, and this is
Speaker 1: like what I really like teach to get into.
Speaker 2: But like the first thing is.
Speaker 1: Like really getting clear on what you want to attract
Speaker 1: and what you want to be and who you want
Speaker 1: to be and how you want to feel, and that
Speaker 1: really coming from like a heart, you know, a space
Speaker 1: that is like not surface level, so not like so
Speaker 1: you can impress your neighbor or you know, impress your
Speaker 1: best friend or anything like that. But it's a confronting question,
Speaker 1: and so many people, so this is the first module
Speaker 1: in my course, and so many people are like I
Speaker 1: actually have no idea and have actually never asked myself
Speaker 1: or gone through anything like this because so often, like
Speaker 1: you said, we're told what you should you know, don't
Speaker 1: have to think pretty money, we're not taught in school.
Speaker 1: You're not taught to think. This is what you need
Speaker 1: to know, a tick off the boxes, and this is
Speaker 1: how you should be a good Samaritan, almost vibes. So
Speaker 1: the first thing with manifesting is like really getting clear
Speaker 1: and like I'm kind of saying with this person and
Speaker 1: how they feel about life is.
Speaker 2: What feels good for you.
Speaker 1: So from the stuff from when I was seventeen, I
Speaker 1: was so clear, I am not going to stay at home, mum.
Speaker 1: I want to continue in my career. I know my strength,
Speaker 1: I know my weaknesses. You know, Like that's not the
Speaker 1: best example, but like just understanding who you as a person,
Speaker 1: what makes you happy, what likes you lights you up? Again,
Speaker 1: so many people haven't really you know, Assetts, and also
Speaker 1: realizing that this isn't so much just in your career,
Speaker 1: because I'm such a big believer in people having careers
Speaker 1: that literally pay the bills and then having so much
Speaker 1: purpose outside. I don't think we can all just go
Speaker 1: off and you know, do our purpose. I think that's
Speaker 1: only for certain people where that is really aligned. But
Speaker 1: you've got to get clear on that. And so if
Speaker 1: you're sitting here and you're like, I've actually never really
Speaker 1: thought about that, could you not understand that you're kind
Speaker 1: of going nowhere if you have no clarity and no direction.
Speaker 1: It's like with business, right, Yeah, you're just you're going
Speaker 1: to go nowhere if you.
Speaker 2: Don't know what you want, where you want your business
Speaker 2: to go. It's not going to go, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 2: not going to happen. And so and also like a
Speaker 2: huge thing is like get clear in your values what
Speaker 2: is important to you in life. So that's just like
Speaker 2: the first sort of step and then the second one
Speaker 2: is really wrecking on your limiting belief So this is
Speaker 2: what I was talking about, that person having you know,
Speaker 2: quite a closed mind of what they think, you know,
Speaker 2: life should be in obviously who I should.
Speaker 1: Be and they should be and whatnot. And so there
Speaker 1: are so many limiting beliefs that we have that again
Speaker 1: are putting put on us from childhood, our parents, friends, family.
Speaker 2: We're usually not aware of them, so.
Speaker 1: They and they often feel like truths when in reality
Speaker 1: they're not true. They're just a belief. And so like
Speaker 1: a really good example of this is with money. So
Speaker 1: I am such an advocate for like money mindset and
Speaker 1: really really realizing things. Yeah, I guess like aren't they
Speaker 1: don't have to be the way that you think they
Speaker 1: have to be. So for example, growing up, Rachel, like,
Speaker 1: what was your view on money?
Speaker 2: So I would definitely say I was from a privileged family.
Speaker 2: My dad owned a law firm. We were comfortable. We
Speaker 2: weren't you know, crazy wealthy. My view on money in
Speaker 2: saying or that my dad and my mum were very,
Speaker 2: very not materialistic people. So they liked a nice house,
Speaker 2: nice holidays, but they never bought like fancy you know
Speaker 2: brands or this or that. So they never really valued
Speaker 2: money as in like it was never something like oh
Speaker 2: but this is so expensive or so for me, I
Speaker 2: was I don't know, as bad as it sounds, I
Speaker 2: never like put much value and still to this day
Speaker 2: on like, really, you know, if I go and buy
Speaker 2: a designer handbag, it doesn't really do much for me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like it doesn't really like light me up. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so I don't think I have like a that's a
Speaker 2: really good question. I don't think I have a really
Speaker 2: like specific view on it. It was just a thing
Speaker 2: growing up for me.
Speaker 1: I love this so for example to almost be like
Speaker 1: do a three sixty me growing up, we like definitely
Speaker 1: weren't wealthy, and I just remember my parents being so frugal.
Speaker 1: So it was like, you know, turn off all the
Speaker 1: lights because you're wasting money on electricity. Yea yeah, And
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, if I was to have
Speaker 1: a bath, it was like everyone would bath in that
Speaker 1: bath because literally we pay for water. And even though
Speaker 1: as I got older and as you know, my parents'
Speaker 1: business did better and better, we definitely got more comfortable.
Speaker 1: But like even to this day, my parents are very frugal.
Speaker 1: And the vibe that I had with money when I
Speaker 1: was younger was you can have money, but you have
Speaker 1: to work insanely hard, because my dad used to work
Speaker 1: six days a week and then on Sunday he would
Speaker 1: be doing admin for his business. And yeah, you can
Speaker 1: create wealth, but fuck, you have to work hard for it.
Speaker 2: See. I would say one thing about my family, their
Speaker 2: work ethic was incredible. Like my dad never took a
Speaker 2: single sick day, He worked his job, never bought it home,
Speaker 2: he never complained about it. My mom never once complained
Speaker 2: about cleaning the house or you know, she had her jobs,
Speaker 2: she had the things that she did. So something that
Speaker 2: they definitely encouraged us to do was to want to work.
Speaker 2: I guess money wasn't really a part of that as much.
Speaker 2: It was more just like, oh, like, I can't wait
Speaker 2: till I no longer have to be my parents' responsibility
Speaker 2: because they've given me so much. They've done, like, they've
Speaker 2: worked so hard to give me all the opportunities they have.
Speaker 2: I guess it's sort of I would say for all
Speaker 2: three of us kids, it really pushed us to want
Speaker 2: to work. You know, as soon as I could get
Speaker 2: a job. When I was younger, I was getting a job.
Speaker 2: I was the yeah, same, So I think that like,
Speaker 2: although we were I always say this about my parents,
Speaker 2: and I don't know how you did it, but you
Speaker 2: gave us like such a good balance of like we
Speaker 2: weren't short of anything, and we understood the value of money,
Speaker 2: but we were still given so many opportunities. But we
Speaker 2: were always coached in a way where yeah, I guess
Speaker 2: my parents were silly with it.
Speaker 1: Want something, go and work for it, yea, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like you're not going to get an expensive
Speaker 2: laptop because everyone else has it, Like you do get
Speaker 2: a laptop that works. Yeah, you know, you don't need
Speaker 2: to go get a car that's ridiculous. You can just
Speaker 2: get a car that drives. Like that was always their approach.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and especially my dad, if you saw what
Speaker 2: he wore, like he's got holes in his shoes, and
Speaker 2: like he is just the worst person, but he just
Speaker 2: does he has no care for like that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: So I guess. We never were around people who were like, oh,
Speaker 2: I want to go and buy you know, Louis Vuitton
Speaker 2: or whatever. It was just never a thing for us
Speaker 2: in that way. And you're not gonna have anything against No. No.
Speaker 2: When I got my first design and wallet, I was
Speaker 2: waiting for this feeling of like this is going to
Speaker 2: be amazing, and I was like, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, isn't it disappointing?
Speaker 2: I know, I was like, oh, I going to feel better,
Speaker 2: like something can work, goes right, And I'm like, that's
Speaker 2: the goods And so.
Speaker 1: This is beautiful because, for example, you have found what
Speaker 1: you value in life. Yes, and without actually knowing that,
Speaker 1: you cannot have gratification, if that makes sense, And that
Speaker 1: really goes into you know, the set one of manifesting
Speaker 1: is actually knowing.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 1: Sorry backtracking here. So money mindset yours is great, you're
Speaker 1: your mind, you're abroad, you're you're a shit example.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to do myself. Re asked that question
Speaker 2: to me. Yeah, Georgia.
Speaker 1: So like my money mindset growing up was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could have wealth, but you had to work exsanely hard.
Speaker 1: And then also once you had wealth, you had to
Speaker 1: really hold onto it. Because my parents were very frugal.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, we can have money, but we've
Speaker 1: got to be very frugal because it can like leave
Speaker 1: and you know, go, And so that's how I also felt.
Speaker 1: And then so when I moved out of home, even
Speaker 1: though I was so hard working and I could create wealth,
Speaker 1: I found like I could never actually build wealth and
Speaker 1: I would be living paycheck to paycheck and something that
Speaker 1: I you know, kind of figured out when I was
Speaker 1: doing all the self development and they caught like shadow
Speaker 1: work is when you you know, unearth these beliefs and
Speaker 1: really get down to the bottom. Is you cannot attract
Speaker 1: what you deem as negative or if you have a
Speaker 1: fear around it, you just will never attract it. So
Speaker 1: for example, the great thing is like you know the
Speaker 1: people who win the lotto and they literally blow all
Speaker 1: their money. Yeah it's because they've never well, not so
Speaker 1: much that, but they've never had the belief that they
Speaker 1: are worthy of it, so they will go and blow it.
Speaker 1: So for me, I always had you have to work
Speaker 1: extanely hard, and yes, but you have to hold onto
Speaker 1: it because it will leave. And so when you disarm
Speaker 1: that and a huge thing. I had to reprogram my
Speaker 1: brain is money is just energy.
Speaker 2: Yes, so that's my approach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I spend something, I will receive it back,
Speaker 1: usually tenfold. And when I you know, I went through
Speaker 1: this huge thing where I paid an insane amount of
Speaker 1: money for a business coach. But for me, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not letting go, you know, thousands of dollar. I'm
Speaker 1: investing because I know I'm going to have, you know,
Speaker 1: a successful business. And you know that came into fruition
Speaker 1: and so you know, people might have this goal of
Speaker 1: you know, I want a million dollars, bit till until
Speaker 1: you can actually do the work where you have a
Speaker 1: belief that you were worthy to hold that a million
Speaker 1: dollars and why yes, exactly, you will never be able
Speaker 1: to attract it so any and that's why a lot
Speaker 1: of people they're like, oh, you know, manifesting doesn't work
Speaker 1: or goal setting doesn't work. It's usually because they have
Speaker 1: a you know, subliminal, limiting belief that is actually blocking
Speaker 1: them from either keeping that thing or attracting it in
Speaker 1: the first place. So that's kind of stepping on two.
Speaker 1: I know they fucking took a while to get that out,
Speaker 1: but then a huge thing also with manifesting is you
Speaker 1: need to learn how to embody it. So a huge
Speaker 1: thing I chat about in my course is like, if
Speaker 1: you had already achieved that goal or attracted that thing,
Speaker 1: how would you show up in life? And you've probably
Speaker 1: done this a lot in your business, going through stages
Speaker 1: where you have had to evolve to be the next person,
Speaker 1: so your business could.
Speaker 2: Get to that stage. Definitely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And a really great example I have for this is
Speaker 1: like when I was in the law firm. I remember
Speaker 1: I was a law clerk and I really wanted this promotion.
Speaker 1: I honestly can't remember because it was like fucking eight
Speaker 1: years ago, but it's just the next step up before
Speaker 1: your lawyer. It's like law Kirk, whatever this is, and
Speaker 1: then a lawyer and I was a year of finishing
Speaker 1: my degree. I really felt like I deserved this promotion.
Speaker 1: And I remember sitting there and it's funny because I
Speaker 1: didn't really understand what manifesting now, But now looking back,
Speaker 1: I had this method already and I was doing it
Speaker 1: a lot, but I remember thinking, how would I show
Speaker 1: up if I was, you know, this person or let's
Speaker 1: just say a lawyer. And at that time I lived,
Speaker 1: I had to catch a bus into the city, so
Speaker 1: I'd wear flats walk. It was like, okay, go to
Speaker 1: my law firm. I was also running back and forward
Speaker 1: with the court, so I was like wearing flats. All
Speaker 1: the lawyers in where I worked wore suits and heels,
Speaker 1: because you know, when you're going to the court, you
Speaker 1: have to be like super resented all so everyone looks
Speaker 1: like very corporate. And I remember thinking, you know, if
Speaker 1: I had this promotion already, I would definitely be dressing
Speaker 1: a certain way so people take me, you know seriously,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. And I remember I started wearing heels,
Speaker 1: I started dressing differently, and it was probably like a
Speaker 1: month after having this kind of epiphany of like, if
Speaker 1: I want this promotion, I have to show up at
Speaker 1: that as that person.
Speaker 2: Now I got.
Speaker 1: That promotion, and it's so not about the heels or
Speaker 1: how you dress. It's I felt worthy enough, kind.
Speaker 2: Of like comprep, like when you're talking through that not comprep,
Speaker 2: but getting on stage and like picturing yourself or yes,
Speaker 2: I can totally relate, yes, because not that I would
Speaker 2: ever say, oh, I'm going to win. It was like
Speaker 2: but deep down inside, I'm like I worthy of winning,
Speaker 2: you know, yes, And I like, as you're describing that,
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I've definitely had times in my life
Speaker 2: where I felt I've done that and I've really you
Speaker 2: pitch yourself walking down the stage.
Speaker 1: Yes, visualization huge And that's another thing Alik Rachel is like,
Speaker 1: you would have never have won if you did not
Speaker 1: feel worthy, You would have not been able to, you know,
Speaker 1: attract that thing if you hadn't done that work previously,
Speaker 1: which is you know, just arming the limiting beliefs, and
Speaker 1: a huge thing with that too, is basically the principle
Speaker 1: of that is becoming an energetic match for what you want,
Speaker 1: for how you want to feel, for how you you know,
Speaker 1: want to show up, because like attracts like if you're
Speaker 1: you know, super negative, really low self esteem, you know,
Speaker 1: all those sorts of things, and you want this thing
Speaker 1: over here that is like positive, high vibe.
Speaker 2: Can you see how it's like it's just not going
Speaker 2: to happen. And to be honest, like I've had times
Speaker 2: in my life where like, let's say I've wanted this,
Speaker 2: but I'm so far from it at that time if
Speaker 2: I'm like, it doesn't even feel like natural for that
Speaker 2: to happen. It's like like they're pushing against each other.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, deep down I'm not the person
Speaker 2: I need to be for that to happen, but I
Speaker 2: want it to happen. And so you're sort of you
Speaker 2: kind of feel unauthentic nearly because I'm like unaligned, unaligned.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this just is not going to happen. There's
Speaker 2: just no way. So I also think that there's going
Speaker 2: to be times where you can you know, you can
Speaker 2: make progress forward, but you can also make progress backwards.
Speaker 2: You know, certain traumas can happen, things can happen in
Speaker 2: your life. That's sort of you know, you lose some
Speaker 2: self esteem and you get a bit deflated and you
Speaker 2: feel a little like very much away from who you are,
Speaker 2: and then you're still trying to achieve these big things
Speaker 2: and it's like that's just not going to happen to
Speaker 2: I can get.
Speaker 1: Back to that person. And it's about looking, why do
Speaker 1: I feel unauthentic, Why do I feel undeserving of this thing?
Speaker 1: Why do I feel so far away? And being very
Speaker 1: honest with yourself about that, like that is so huge.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you touched on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I definitely can relate to that.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of brings this to like the next step,
Speaker 1: which is like taking aligned action and inspired action, and
Speaker 1: so for instance, in that you know a certain circumstance
Speaker 1: where you don't feel that it's what are the baby
Speaker 1: steps that I can take to get to this goal,
Speaker 1: but also you know while doing while we're doing this
Speaker 1: work and disarming the limiting beliefs, but what is the
Speaker 1: inspired action? And the way I described inspired action is
Speaker 1: more of inspired action sometimes doesn't make sense logically and
Speaker 1: it usually never makes sense to anyone else, but it's
Speaker 1: like you have this intuitive pull, this intuitive thing where
Speaker 1: it's like I just need to go and explore thing.
Speaker 1: And I definitely felt that when I was making my
Speaker 1: decision of like leaving the law firm following this career
Speaker 1: which I actually had no like prospects yet. And it's
Speaker 1: like because I left my corporate job and I didn't
Speaker 1: start Naked Harvest, I think it was like a year
Speaker 1: and a half, so it's not like I had this
Speaker 1: other thing to jump to you. And again, like I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: imagine telling everyone you're leaving this prestige law job to
Speaker 1: like go be an influencer and people like eye rolling,
Speaker 1: but I just had this intuitive feeling and I was like,
Speaker 1: if I don't do this, I know I'm going to
Speaker 1: like kick myself and I'm going to feel so unauthentic
Speaker 1: to you know, my life or whatever. And so a
Speaker 1: huge thing with inspired action is it doesn't always have
Speaker 1: to make sense to anyone else. It just has to
Speaker 1: make sense with you.
Speaker 2: I have to feel right. Yeah, it has to feel right.
Speaker 1: And like you said, it's you know, if you're attracting
Speaker 1: this super huge thing and it just feels so out
Speaker 1: of reach, what are some baby steps that are going
Speaker 1: to make you feel worthy, that are going to give
Speaker 1: you evidence so you can keep going, definitely, because like
Speaker 1: a huge thing we realize in life is once we
Speaker 1: do something and we have success, it is so easy
Speaker 1: to repeat.
Speaker 2: Or do that thing.
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure before you stepped on stage for the
Speaker 1: first time, you were like holy creation, so nervous, and
Speaker 1: then I'm sure by the time, like I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is correct the language, but got your pro car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gain confidence, you gain momentum, but you had to
Speaker 1: start somewhere.
Speaker 2: And mostly I can relate to this in fitness and everything.
Speaker 2: I learned there and like the successes I had there,
Speaker 2: I then found much easier to transition into business. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I found that, Like something I always say, and
Speaker 2: the reason I love health and fitness is the foundations
Speaker 2: you learn. You can just take into so many different
Speaker 2: areas of your life, relationships, business, There's just so much
Speaker 2: that all relates with them.
Speaker 1: And you know what I love about fitness and health
Speaker 1: is like a lot of it is creating habits that
Speaker 1: you don't instantly see success a bit over time you do.
Speaker 1: Trusting the process, right, Trusting the process. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with it. And it's funny because obviously we
Speaker 1: were very similar in the way of like health and
Speaker 1: fitness transitioning into business. But it just has so many
Speaker 1: great foundation and teaches you so many great life skills can.
Speaker 2: Even transition into being a mum.
Speaker 1: Right oh yeah yes, yeah, yeah, huge.
Speaker 2: Like all the sleep routine and all the little things
Speaker 2: you would have for ivy.
Speaker 1: Don't get me started on a sleep routine.
Speaker 2: It sounds silly, but like it works. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: everything is a process. But people have a lot of
Speaker 2: trouble trusting that initial journey, all that initial process because
Speaker 2: they haven't had this success yet, so you're just betting
Speaker 2: on Okay, I'm going to trust this and hope it happens.
Speaker 2: Once it happens, it's a little easy to start trusting
Speaker 2: things exactly.
Speaker 1: And also, you know, going back to that very first step,
Speaker 1: I'm such a big believer. Like for example, you know
Speaker 1: with this manifesting method I'm kind of chatting about, is
Speaker 1: when you're doing these steps and you start with the
Speaker 1: getting clear, is in alignment, trusting your intuition, bondying that person,
Speaker 1: it is so much easier to take those little steps
Speaker 1: to then get evidence of Okay, I can do this,
Speaker 1: I can gain momentum, take another step. That's I guess,
Speaker 1: like the example of me leaving my corporate job is
Speaker 1: like a huge crossroads risk, but there would have been
Speaker 1: so many steps before that that I had made and
Speaker 1: choices I had made that had led me to that
Speaker 1: point that you know, it was trusting my intuition, it
Speaker 1: was being in alignment, it was taking inspired action. It's
Speaker 1: not just oh yeah, but you know you took this
Speaker 1: huge risk in it it worked out. There's so many
Speaker 1: steps before that, Like you know we've been saying, and
Speaker 1: what you kind of touched on before you know, the
Speaker 1: last thing with manifesting, and such a huge thing is surrender.
Speaker 1: It's detaching from the outcome, and it's believing I've done
Speaker 1: the work, I've gotten clear, I've disarmed my limiting beliefs.
Speaker 1: I know I'm worthy, I've taken you know, the inspire action.
Speaker 1: I know it will you know, I know it will come.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: A huge thing I say is if not this, something better, definitely,
Speaker 1: And you've got to truly like believe in that, and
Speaker 1: you've got to truly sort of embody that. And that
Speaker 1: was such a huge thing. For example, when I was
Speaker 1: going through these health issues and my miscarriage, Like that's
Speaker 1: a stage in your life where you're like, how could
Speaker 1: this ever make sense? This is you know, this is horrible?
Speaker 1: How can this ever make sense? The only reason I
Speaker 1: was able to get through it because I had a
Speaker 1: lot of people message me being like, how are you
Speaker 1: so positive through time like this? And even though obviously
Speaker 1: I crumbled and I had my moments, it's because I
Speaker 1: have this like trust in myself in the process, in
Speaker 1: what I believe in what I put out there, and
Speaker 1: I knew I was like, as much as I cannot
Speaker 1: see it in right this moment, I know that this
Speaker 1: is all, you know, a lesson or I know I'm
Speaker 1: going to look back and go, this was meant to be.
Speaker 1: And obviously now I can, But during those hard times,
Speaker 1: it's really hard to think about that.
Speaker 2: It's hard to see path right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. But when you're living your life like this
Speaker 1: and you're living in alignment and something negative or bad comes,
Speaker 1: it's honestly like it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Affect you like it usually would because you have, you know,
Speaker 2: built this foundation and you've built these building blocks, and
Speaker 2: you have so much trust in you know. A great
Speaker 2: example of that is actually so Ivy. She was a
Speaker 2: collar y baby, so for the first six weeks we
Speaker 2: didn't really have the newborn bubble because she cried literally
Speaker 2: the whole time. And so like literally after.
Speaker 1: Six weeks she's like sought herself out and she's like
Speaker 1: amazing baby. But you can imagine you're a new mum,
Speaker 1: you're sleep deprived, your baby's crying all the time. You
Speaker 1: can't you know, like what it's obviously not all the time.
Speaker 1: It's bit nic, but you know what I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's not the experience you thought. And honestly, I think
Speaker 1: we had our fertility issues and our biggest struggle to
Speaker 1: get through that. Because to get through it, I literally
Speaker 1: had to sit down and say, Georgia, do you remember
Speaker 1: how many times you would cry when you got your
Speaker 1: period or the amount of hard times you went through
Speaker 1: For this baby?
Speaker 2: She is here, who cares? Yes, get through it? Yeah.
Speaker 1: And like I have a girlfriend who she got pregnant
Speaker 1: literally the first month, and I was thinking if I
Speaker 1: had gotten pregnant really easy and then had this really
Speaker 1: hard time as a you know, first time mum, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I would have gotten through it the
Speaker 1: way I have because you know, like I just would
Speaker 1: have been like.
Speaker 2: What the fuck? If that makes sense?
Speaker 1: But because we went through this hard time, we are
Speaker 1: able to have this different experience. So again, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it because I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone hates the saying, but like everything happens for a reason,
Speaker 1: and even through the low times, it's not forever.
Speaker 2: Just like your high times, it's temporary. Yeah exactly. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: I love that so much. Isn't it funny? Too? Like
Speaker 2: sometimes you when you're listening, you're probably like, oh I've
Speaker 2: felt that before. Oh I understand that, Like and having
Speaker 2: someone sort of put it into words and into a
Speaker 2: process and into steps. It just kind of gives you
Speaker 2: a little more clarity on what you're actually feeling.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I.
Speaker 2: Guess a little bit of like direction as to like lean.
Speaker 1: Into it, you know, and just quickly on that. So
Speaker 1: we are all manifesting all the time, whether you like
Speaker 1: know you are or not, like whether you like it
Speaker 1: or not, Like we're all doing it all the time
Speaker 1: because you know, like attracts like everything, it's a universal law,
Speaker 1: so you're doing it either way. I guess I just
Speaker 1: like am so big on it because once you kind
Speaker 1: of figure out, much like fitness, where you're like, oh
Speaker 1: okay again, I'm not like huge instue, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: butcher it. But like you know, knowing your macro, knowing
Speaker 1: that you don't actually have to do this crazy intense
Speaker 1: session and kill yourself because it doesn't actually make sense.
Speaker 1: It's way to rest, you need to.
Speaker 2: Recovery is not optional.
Speaker 1: Full body is actually great. You don't have to just
Speaker 1: kill your legs and then wait a week. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's all this science behind it. But much like that,
Speaker 1: once you have the tools to almost you know, rig
Speaker 1: the system, almost and use it to your advantage. It's
Speaker 1: honestly life changing.
Speaker 2: I always say like, we fear what we don't understand,
Speaker 2: and yes, so until we understand things, we're gonna be
Speaker 2: in fear of them. You know. Educating yourself in all
Speaker 2: aspects of life is just it's powerful, and I think
Speaker 2: that it's it's very underrated, especially in things like personal
Speaker 2: development and fitness.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so huge, and I'm like you
Speaker 1: said before, I reckon fitness and personal development crossover so much.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this was awesome. Wow. We really went
Speaker 2: off on a tangent of our own. Wow. But I
Speaker 2: absolutely loved it. This was like such a different podcast,
Speaker 2: and I think you girls are going to take away
Speaker 2: so much from this. And you know, your story and
Speaker 2: your resilience is so inspiring. So thank you for sharing
Speaker 2: that with us today. I feel super honored. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so thank you so much for coming on.
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