1 00:00:10,669 --> 00:00:14,869 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen 2 00:00:14,909 --> 00:00:16,468 Speaker 1: live on the Free I heard. 3 00:00:21,948 --> 00:00:23,549 Speaker 2: The Will and Woody podcast. 4 00:00:24,909 --> 00:00:26,589 Speaker 1: I think I'm a pretty nice guy. I just think 5 00:00:26,589 --> 00:00:29,668 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a likable person. So it's strange to me 6 00:00:30,029 --> 00:00:34,748 Speaker 1: that your almost three year old daughter hates me. Like 7 00:00:34,949 --> 00:00:37,629 Speaker 1: I'm not talking out of school here, Like this is 8 00:00:37,668 --> 00:00:41,309 Speaker 1: a genuine issue and she has proven it multiple times. 9 00:00:41,509 --> 00:00:43,229 Speaker 2: Yeah, that she hates me. I mean, if you've missed 10 00:00:43,269 --> 00:00:44,268 Speaker 2: any of it, have listened to this. 11 00:00:45,989 --> 00:00:48,228 Speaker 3: Bards, We have long suspected that my two year old 12 00:00:48,269 --> 00:00:50,669 Speaker 3: daughter hates you. Why have you suspected this repect was 13 00:00:50,828 --> 00:00:53,389 Speaker 3: vaguely confirmed on the show yesterday. 14 00:00:53,749 --> 00:00:57,429 Speaker 2: Hello Max, Well. 15 00:00:57,309 --> 00:00:59,429 Speaker 3: I got home last night. I asked her point blank, 16 00:01:00,069 --> 00:01:01,069 Speaker 3: what are your friend? Do you like? 17 00:01:01,069 --> 00:01:01,389 Speaker 4: Whitty? 18 00:01:02,109 --> 00:01:02,268 Speaker 1: Hey? 19 00:01:03,109 --> 00:01:03,749 Speaker 3: It's been tough? 20 00:01:03,828 --> 00:01:05,229 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm I'm just going on with my 21 00:01:05,229 --> 00:01:06,229 Speaker 2: life like it. See, I'm not. 22 00:01:06,549 --> 00:01:09,548 Speaker 3: I don't need this. I don't need to. 23 00:01:09,469 --> 00:01:10,949 Speaker 2: Love of everyone I come into contact with. What are 24 00:01:10,989 --> 00:01:13,989 Speaker 2: you talking about? I don't play that noise again, It's 25 00:01:13,989 --> 00:01:16,749 Speaker 2: actually harmful. So I do need this. 26 00:01:17,469 --> 00:01:21,189 Speaker 1: So yesterday on the show, I kind of commenteered the 27 00:01:21,269 --> 00:01:23,749 Speaker 1: radio show and just said, can we call your daughter again, 28 00:01:24,349 --> 00:01:26,469 Speaker 1: just so I can you know, tell her how amazing 29 00:01:26,549 --> 00:01:26,828 Speaker 1: I am. 30 00:01:27,069 --> 00:01:30,349 Speaker 2: And it went terribly put me on speaker immediately. 31 00:01:31,949 --> 00:01:32,589 Speaker 3: Can you hear me? 32 00:01:32,669 --> 00:01:32,988 Speaker 5: Max? 33 00:01:36,189 --> 00:01:38,549 Speaker 2: She's running, you say, she's running, Run. 34 00:01:38,309 --> 00:01:41,629 Speaker 3: After her, run after. 35 00:01:43,229 --> 00:01:47,069 Speaker 1: Okay, so she's now running away from my presence over 36 00:01:47,109 --> 00:01:47,629 Speaker 1: the phone. 37 00:01:47,749 --> 00:01:49,429 Speaker 2: So I've now taken it upon my head. 38 00:01:49,509 --> 00:01:51,269 Speaker 3: It did get a bit pushed last time. I feel 39 00:01:51,389 --> 00:01:53,429 Speaker 3: she was distressed by the end of that. 40 00:01:54,069 --> 00:01:55,789 Speaker 2: Well, I get that. But if she just said the 41 00:01:55,869 --> 00:01:56,669 Speaker 2: nigg you do get it. 42 00:01:56,749 --> 00:01:58,269 Speaker 1: No. But what I'm trying to say is if she 43 00:01:58,349 --> 00:02:00,309 Speaker 1: just says I like you, then I'll back it off 44 00:02:00,349 --> 00:02:03,389 Speaker 1: a little bit. If she continues to put up this 45 00:02:03,509 --> 00:02:05,749 Speaker 1: wall of hate, then I am going to push harder 46 00:02:05,749 --> 00:02:08,349 Speaker 1: and harder. And part of pushing harder is the fact 47 00:02:08,349 --> 00:02:10,869 Speaker 1: that I can coming to your house in the morning now, which. 48 00:02:10,668 --> 00:02:13,189 Speaker 2: I'm sure was incredibly annoying for you and your family. 49 00:02:13,668 --> 00:02:17,589 Speaker 3: But You've come in two mornings this week, and both 50 00:02:17,629 --> 00:02:22,069 Speaker 3: times I've been having a shower. Let yourself in. Yeah, yeah, 51 00:02:22,069 --> 00:02:22,309 Speaker 3: I was. 52 00:02:22,229 --> 00:02:23,629 Speaker 2: Playing with your dog for a while this morning. 53 00:02:23,709 --> 00:02:25,629 Speaker 3: But more important that I knew that you were in 54 00:02:25,669 --> 00:02:27,629 Speaker 3: the house today is because I got out of the 55 00:02:27,669 --> 00:02:30,789 Speaker 3: shower and the first thing I heard was my dog's 56 00:02:30,869 --> 00:02:33,508 Speaker 3: name is Stevie. The only thing I heard was Stevie, 57 00:02:33,789 --> 00:02:38,469 Speaker 3: where's mommy or Daddy or Max? Good chab, it's a 58 00:02:38,469 --> 00:02:41,069 Speaker 3: good chat. Stevie had no idea anyway. 59 00:02:41,109 --> 00:02:43,949 Speaker 1: I had hot cross buns though, because I was like 60 00:02:44,069 --> 00:02:46,349 Speaker 1: all kids like hot cross buns. I just want to 61 00:02:46,349 --> 00:02:48,829 Speaker 1: get some face to FaceTime with Mags and deliver the 62 00:02:48,869 --> 00:02:51,589 Speaker 1: hot cross buns. Now, my question to you is she 63 00:02:51,789 --> 00:02:56,388 Speaker 1: wasn't there no at that time? Have you delivered the merchandise? 64 00:02:56,669 --> 00:02:59,709 Speaker 1: Yes to her and explains to her in no uncertain 65 00:02:59,829 --> 00:03:01,989 Speaker 1: terms that would he paid for that with his own money? 66 00:03:02,069 --> 00:03:04,069 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think money is a concept that you know, 67 00:03:04,189 --> 00:03:06,029 Speaker 3: she can quite grock at this age, which is not 68 00:03:06,149 --> 00:03:08,709 Speaker 3: quite across which you should get across that it's important. 69 00:03:10,069 --> 00:03:11,589 Speaker 1: Well, did you make it clear that what you spent 70 00:03:11,669 --> 00:03:13,629 Speaker 1: time going to get these and he's given them to 71 00:03:13,909 --> 00:03:17,828 Speaker 1: you as a gift. Yeah, ideas come out of his way. 72 00:03:17,829 --> 00:03:20,069 Speaker 3: Again, you're laboring it like you just need to chill 73 00:03:20,109 --> 00:03:23,429 Speaker 3: out a little bit, you know, like that nothing there's 74 00:03:23,469 --> 00:03:29,349 Speaker 3: nothing less attractive than desperation, and you you exuded at 75 00:03:29,349 --> 00:03:30,069 Speaker 3: the current moment. 76 00:03:30,109 --> 00:03:31,629 Speaker 2: Well, I'll wear her down. 77 00:03:32,589 --> 00:03:36,069 Speaker 3: I don't. It's two years old. 78 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:39,949 Speaker 2: But anyway, did you get the hot cross buns or not? 79 00:03:40,069 --> 00:03:41,309 Speaker 2: I'm sorry I did. 80 00:03:41,349 --> 00:03:43,549 Speaker 3: I gave you hot You're right, she loves the hot 81 00:03:43,589 --> 00:03:49,029 Speaker 3: Cross buns. But well, no, I think she was quite 82 00:03:49,069 --> 00:03:53,469 Speaker 3: gracious in how she responded, Actually, these hot coss buns, 83 00:03:54,069 --> 00:03:59,789 Speaker 3: they're from Woody Did. 84 00:03:59,589 --> 00:04:02,189 Speaker 5: You say came to from Woody? 85 00:04:02,429 --> 00:04:02,829 Speaker 2: Bag? 86 00:04:03,069 --> 00:04:06,189 Speaker 3: I said, thanks to Would you like me to say thanks? 87 00:04:06,189 --> 00:04:07,269 Speaker 6: Tody? 88 00:04:07,949 --> 00:04:10,189 Speaker 7: Do you like Woodie? 89 00:04:15,309 --> 00:04:16,229 Speaker 2: What is going? 90 00:04:21,149 --> 00:04:24,388 Speaker 1: She fully understood the fact that I gave because she 91 00:04:24,509 --> 00:04:24,949 Speaker 1: thanked me. 92 00:04:26,789 --> 00:04:28,868 Speaker 3: Can you thank me and then still say I'm not 93 00:04:28,909 --> 00:04:29,429 Speaker 3: friends with you? 94 00:04:29,829 --> 00:04:30,149 Speaker 2: Okay? 95 00:04:30,189 --> 00:04:32,069 Speaker 3: This I just flighted perfectly as. 96 00:04:31,988 --> 00:04:34,268 Speaker 1: Far as I couldn't be prouder of it. She's almost 97 00:04:34,309 --> 00:04:35,748 Speaker 1: like she knew it was a bit, and she was 98 00:04:35,749 --> 00:04:38,109 Speaker 1: gracious as well. She was polite, didn't forget her manners. 99 00:04:38,309 --> 00:04:40,589 Speaker 1: Said thank you, make sure you say thank you. But 100 00:04:40,909 --> 00:04:42,988 Speaker 1: I still like that guy. I felt a lot of 101 00:04:42,988 --> 00:04:45,509 Speaker 1: proud pride for my child over there last you know, 102 00:04:45,509 --> 00:04:47,389 Speaker 1: two and a half three years. I'm sure you never 103 00:04:47,429 --> 00:04:50,469 Speaker 1: swelled with more pride than I did. I'm sure I'm 104 00:04:50,509 --> 00:04:51,069 Speaker 1: sure you're loving. 105 00:04:51,109 --> 00:04:52,789 Speaker 3: I almost think that she knows it's a bit now. 106 00:04:54,069 --> 00:04:56,029 Speaker 3: I couldn't be prouder of her. It feels too real. 107 00:04:56,389 --> 00:04:57,789 Speaker 3: She's two and a half. She can't know it's a 108 00:04:57,789 --> 00:04:59,349 Speaker 3: bit what you said. 109 00:04:59,349 --> 00:05:01,308 Speaker 2: She doesn't grow money, she doesn't grock bits. 110 00:05:01,349 --> 00:05:01,549 Speaker 3: Mate. 111 00:05:01,949 --> 00:05:06,229 Speaker 1: Anyway, I just need to know from other people. Thirteen 112 00:05:06,309 --> 00:05:09,949 Speaker 1: one oh sixty five is our number? Yeah, does your 113 00:05:10,109 --> 00:05:12,149 Speaker 1: kid hate someone for like no reason? 114 00:05:13,269 --> 00:05:13,549 Speaker 4: Is it? 115 00:05:13,629 --> 00:05:17,229 Speaker 1: Like? Is this actually a thing that young children just designed, 116 00:05:17,229 --> 00:05:18,269 Speaker 1: that they hate someone? 117 00:05:18,309 --> 00:05:20,709 Speaker 2: I think so because right now I feel very alone. 118 00:05:21,389 --> 00:05:24,669 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel very skill. You're the only the only 119 00:05:24,709 --> 00:05:27,829 Speaker 3: adult that's hated by a toddler, So they're out there. 120 00:05:27,869 --> 00:05:30,749 Speaker 1: Thirteen one oh sixty five does your kid just did 121 00:05:30,749 --> 00:05:32,389 Speaker 1: they just decide to hate someone. 122 00:05:32,149 --> 00:05:34,589 Speaker 2: For no real reason? And then I guess the secondary 123 00:05:34,669 --> 00:05:36,269 Speaker 2: question is did they ever get through it? 124 00:05:38,709 --> 00:05:40,709 Speaker 3: You're fresh to the show. You should know that my 125 00:05:40,789 --> 00:05:44,909 Speaker 3: two and a half year old daughter has now categorically confirmed, 126 00:05:45,069 --> 00:05:48,829 Speaker 3: on four different occasions that she hates Woody Well hates 127 00:05:48,869 --> 00:05:51,109 Speaker 3: a strong word. She doesn't like you. She doesn't see 128 00:05:51,109 --> 00:05:52,869 Speaker 3: I actually wouldn't ask you if she hates anything, but 129 00:05:52,909 --> 00:05:55,549 Speaker 3: she doesn't see you as a friend, which arguably hurts. 130 00:05:55,349 --> 00:05:57,589 Speaker 2: More it does. I think i'd prefer the hate. 131 00:05:57,389 --> 00:06:01,309 Speaker 3: It's weird to be more simple to hate, isn't it's 132 00:06:01,429 --> 00:06:03,869 Speaker 3: It's clearly a childish response. Total I don't want him 133 00:06:03,869 --> 00:06:07,109 Speaker 3: as my friend. Is that's calculated. She's thought about it absolutely, 134 00:06:07,309 --> 00:06:08,149 Speaker 3: despite the fact that. 135 00:06:08,109 --> 00:06:11,029 Speaker 1: I'm coming up to your house regularly now and I 136 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:14,069 Speaker 1: will continue to do this and interrupt your beautiful warnings 137 00:06:14,389 --> 00:06:18,069 Speaker 1: and deliver gifts to your daughter until she says, I 138 00:06:18,109 --> 00:06:18,709 Speaker 1: am her friend? 139 00:06:18,709 --> 00:06:21,309 Speaker 3: Who are you doing that for the small. 140 00:06:21,109 --> 00:06:24,508 Speaker 1: Child inside of me? And that small child's inside of everyone. 141 00:06:24,669 --> 00:06:27,549 Speaker 1: We all know it's there. Sometimes you have to nurture them. 142 00:06:27,589 --> 00:06:30,269 Speaker 1: So I'm just wondering now, though thirteen one O six 143 00:06:30,429 --> 00:06:34,589 Speaker 1: five is our number, does your kid just hate someone 144 00:06:34,909 --> 00:06:37,149 Speaker 1: for no reason? Because right now it does feel like 145 00:06:37,229 --> 00:06:39,349 Speaker 1: I'm the only adult out there who just has the. 146 00:06:39,949 --> 00:06:42,269 Speaker 3: Not the hate of a child, but the lack of. 147 00:06:42,269 --> 00:06:44,069 Speaker 1: Love from a rain that is that because I just 148 00:06:44,069 --> 00:06:44,988 Speaker 1: thought kids liked everyone. 149 00:06:44,988 --> 00:06:47,629 Speaker 3: Remy loves everyone. It doesn't matter who you are. 150 00:06:47,709 --> 00:06:48,868 Speaker 2: She's like, I trust. 151 00:06:48,589 --> 00:06:51,349 Speaker 3: You, You're in ye, So that's nice. 152 00:06:51,469 --> 00:06:54,669 Speaker 1: Let's go to Shannon here, despite me trying to drip 153 00:06:54,829 --> 00:06:56,949 Speaker 1: like awful things about you to her because I kind. 154 00:06:56,789 --> 00:06:57,188 Speaker 2: Of want mind. 155 00:06:57,389 --> 00:07:00,669 Speaker 1: Oh you've been feeding to throw around things like Will 156 00:07:00,789 --> 00:07:03,748 Speaker 1: is a cheap ass, Like I'll just mentioned that, but 157 00:07:03,789 --> 00:07:05,069 Speaker 1: it's not really sinking in yet. 158 00:07:06,429 --> 00:07:06,909 Speaker 3: Shannon. 159 00:07:09,149 --> 00:07:13,309 Speaker 1: Hello, mates, You've got a niece who has a dislike 160 00:07:13,949 --> 00:07:15,589 Speaker 1: of someone I do. I do. 161 00:07:15,789 --> 00:07:18,629 Speaker 8: She's about six years old and at no stage of 162 00:07:18,669 --> 00:07:19,309 Speaker 8: her life she. 163 00:07:19,309 --> 00:07:22,389 Speaker 3: Ever liked me. So how young did it start? Shannon? 164 00:07:23,229 --> 00:07:23,909 Speaker 1: From the get go? 165 00:07:24,469 --> 00:07:25,389 Speaker 7: I think it's the bead. 166 00:07:25,509 --> 00:07:28,029 Speaker 6: I've got a bed and I don't know if it's 167 00:07:28,509 --> 00:07:33,869 Speaker 6: but wouldn't say hello to me and functions and give 168 00:07:33,909 --> 00:07:34,389 Speaker 6: me nothing? 169 00:07:34,869 --> 00:07:36,829 Speaker 1: And have you tried to push through that, Shannon? Because 170 00:07:36,869 --> 00:07:38,789 Speaker 1: I'm with your mate, I'm right there next to you. 171 00:07:39,149 --> 00:07:41,149 Speaker 1: Will's daughter does not like me? So what have you 172 00:07:41,269 --> 00:07:43,269 Speaker 1: done to try and win back the love of the 173 00:07:43,389 --> 00:07:44,389 Speaker 1: of your brivery? 174 00:07:45,629 --> 00:07:48,869 Speaker 8: I love that I again. 175 00:07:49,469 --> 00:07:52,669 Speaker 3: So that's that's what I'm trying to plain here, Shannon, 176 00:07:53,189 --> 00:07:55,309 Speaker 3: is that you need to ease up. 177 00:07:55,389 --> 00:07:58,109 Speaker 2: But what if I just ignore her? Nothing's going to happen? 178 00:07:58,189 --> 00:08:03,989 Speaker 1: Right? Diagree? Disagree? Actually actually like like agrees. Shannon had 179 00:08:04,029 --> 00:08:06,949 Speaker 1: six years? Are you on speaking terms with your niece now? 180 00:08:07,029 --> 00:08:10,709 Speaker 3: Shannon? No, So she's six years old and she's like 181 00:08:10,869 --> 00:08:12,989 Speaker 3: never said what's what's the most she's said to you? 182 00:08:14,229 --> 00:08:15,269 Speaker 9: Ah? 183 00:08:15,309 --> 00:08:16,869 Speaker 3: Hello, that's it. 184 00:08:17,269 --> 00:08:18,069 Speaker 2: That's all you get. 185 00:08:18,909 --> 00:08:23,389 Speaker 3: You say often enough, her brother's right. Have you asked 186 00:08:23,429 --> 00:08:24,029 Speaker 3: her parents? 187 00:08:24,989 --> 00:08:28,669 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's become a running joke in the family now, Yeah. 188 00:08:28,589 --> 00:08:30,269 Speaker 3: It does get like that. It's definitely a running joke 189 00:08:30,309 --> 00:08:32,988 Speaker 3: in my householding with my familys col Shannon. 190 00:08:33,029 --> 00:08:34,069 Speaker 2: It's not funny at all to me. 191 00:08:34,468 --> 00:08:36,629 Speaker 3: I think he's hitting on something though. I do think 192 00:08:36,669 --> 00:08:38,789 Speaker 3: it's a good message to heat. The harder you push, 193 00:08:38,828 --> 00:08:40,429 Speaker 3: the more she's going to run away. But what does 194 00:08:40,468 --> 00:08:41,269 Speaker 3: that actually look like? 195 00:08:41,348 --> 00:08:43,548 Speaker 1: Practically like what I come over with the hot cross 196 00:08:43,549 --> 00:08:45,509 Speaker 1: buns and go No, it means not coming over. 197 00:08:45,628 --> 00:08:47,749 Speaker 2: Don't come over, Maddie. Is just a way of. 198 00:08:50,108 --> 00:08:55,469 Speaker 3: Maddie, Maddie, Maddie. This is your daughter irrationally hates someone. 199 00:08:56,228 --> 00:08:59,908 Speaker 6: Yes, she hates my brother in law, and so is. 200 00:08:59,868 --> 00:09:01,748 Speaker 3: There Has there ever been a reason that you can 201 00:09:01,789 --> 00:09:02,268 Speaker 3: pin that to? 202 00:09:03,268 --> 00:09:07,029 Speaker 6: And looks he scared her once, but from then on, 203 00:09:07,268 --> 00:09:10,029 Speaker 6: every time she sees him, she just screams, has a meltdown, 204 00:09:10,149 --> 00:09:12,468 Speaker 6: doesn't want to buy of him, just the whole work, 205 00:09:13,029 --> 00:09:13,828 Speaker 6: Oh my lord? 206 00:09:13,868 --> 00:09:16,629 Speaker 1: So and has he done anything to try and like 207 00:09:17,189 --> 00:09:19,028 Speaker 1: mend the bridge. 208 00:09:19,108 --> 00:09:20,749 Speaker 6: Every time we go over, he will? I try and 209 00:09:20,748 --> 00:09:22,588 Speaker 6: give her like a cardle, or I take her off 210 00:09:22,628 --> 00:09:24,149 Speaker 6: my sister, but then. 211 00:09:24,029 --> 00:09:26,389 Speaker 3: She just loses it. How old is she? Did you say? 212 00:09:26,429 --> 00:09:29,388 Speaker 3: Madis okay? 213 00:09:29,508 --> 00:09:30,028 Speaker 1: So young? 214 00:09:30,388 --> 00:09:32,508 Speaker 3: That's still that's when it does. That's when it started 215 00:09:32,549 --> 00:09:34,668 Speaker 3: with you as well. And then we learned this the 216 00:09:34,708 --> 00:09:37,268 Speaker 3: first time, Max said, I came into the studio. She 217 00:09:37,348 --> 00:09:39,668 Speaker 3: calls the studio the glassroom, and she said, wood, he 218 00:09:39,789 --> 00:09:42,069 Speaker 3: laughed at you in the glassroom. So ultimately she's protecting me. 219 00:09:42,309 --> 00:09:45,509 Speaker 1: So she just remembered one moment from our radio show 220 00:09:45,508 --> 00:09:47,429 Speaker 1: where obviously you were the butt of the joug. 221 00:09:47,988 --> 00:09:50,029 Speaker 2: And since that day she has hated She's black. 222 00:09:50,108 --> 00:09:54,949 Speaker 3: Marn't you forgiveness? Mate? I think so you are you 223 00:09:55,508 --> 00:09:58,148 Speaker 3: just thinking about that in reverse? Maybe you need to 224 00:09:58,228 --> 00:10:00,309 Speaker 3: be doing great things for me in front of her 225 00:10:01,388 --> 00:10:03,869 Speaker 3: or yeah, I think that's actually it. Now I hate 226 00:10:03,868 --> 00:10:06,389 Speaker 3: that you It flipped that. So I need is where 227 00:10:06,388 --> 00:10:08,588 Speaker 3: we're at all of a sudden. If I save your life, 228 00:10:09,549 --> 00:10:12,069 Speaker 3: I just start with a nice bottle of wine. Jamie's 229 00:10:12,108 --> 00:10:14,949 Speaker 3: called on by buying me a drink. 230 00:10:15,669 --> 00:10:21,149 Speaker 1: Jamie, Jamie, are you another one who was hated by 231 00:10:21,228 --> 00:10:22,669 Speaker 1: a child for no reason? Yeah? 232 00:10:23,628 --> 00:10:28,028 Speaker 8: So my cousin she had two daughters, and every time 233 00:10:28,069 --> 00:10:29,189 Speaker 8: I'd walk in the room. 234 00:10:29,268 --> 00:10:32,268 Speaker 5: They just would squill and yell and scream. 235 00:10:32,628 --> 00:10:34,708 Speaker 8: I put it down to the fact that I had dreadlock. 236 00:10:35,988 --> 00:10:36,949 Speaker 3: That's interesting. 237 00:10:37,708 --> 00:10:40,828 Speaker 8: The worst part was their father had dreadlocks. So maybe 238 00:10:40,868 --> 00:10:41,708 Speaker 8: it wasn't the dreadlock. 239 00:10:41,708 --> 00:10:44,788 Speaker 3: I don't think it's the dreadlocks. Jamie. Have you managed to? 240 00:10:45,669 --> 00:10:47,708 Speaker 3: Have you managed to push through? Have you? Have you done? 241 00:10:48,149 --> 00:10:49,788 Speaker 8: They're older now they like me. 242 00:10:49,949 --> 00:10:51,189 Speaker 3: Now, how did you do it? 243 00:10:51,309 --> 00:10:52,028 Speaker 2: Jamie? Teach me? 244 00:10:52,069 --> 00:10:52,748 Speaker 1: How did I do it? 245 00:10:52,949 --> 00:10:53,868 Speaker 8: I just stayed away. 246 00:10:57,029 --> 00:10:59,789 Speaker 3: It's gone. So you've got two options here. Would either 247 00:11:00,029 --> 00:11:03,628 Speaker 3: stay away or you buy me dinner at least three 248 00:11:03,708 --> 00:11:04,189 Speaker 3: nights a week. 249 00:11:05,268 --> 00:11:06,588 Speaker 2: I think I prefer to stay away. 250 00:11:08,588 --> 00:11:14,268 Speaker 3: I would. So we are talking about you trying to 251 00:11:14,309 --> 00:11:15,508 Speaker 3: buy my two year old's love. 252 00:11:15,909 --> 00:11:18,468 Speaker 2: Sorry, that makes it sound awful. I'm just trying to. 253 00:11:18,508 --> 00:11:20,028 Speaker 3: Do exactly what you're trying to do. You're trying to 254 00:11:20,069 --> 00:11:20,508 Speaker 3: buy her love. 255 00:11:20,588 --> 00:11:20,908 Speaker 8: No I'm not. 256 00:11:21,189 --> 00:11:23,548 Speaker 2: No, I'm not just trying to do nice things for 257 00:11:23,628 --> 00:11:26,828 Speaker 2: her which do cost me money to make her like me. 258 00:11:27,549 --> 00:11:29,509 Speaker 3: She hates you. She hates you. She made it quite 259 00:11:29,508 --> 00:11:31,828 Speaker 3: clear over the last couple of weeks. Yes, you can 260 00:11:31,868 --> 00:11:34,108 Speaker 3: follow this on our socials Instagram TikTok if you'd like 261 00:11:34,228 --> 00:11:36,628 Speaker 3: to a particularly funny video of her with her with 262 00:11:36,708 --> 00:11:38,789 Speaker 3: her underwear on her head, saying she hates you most recently, 263 00:11:38,868 --> 00:11:43,108 Speaker 3: which I quite enjoyed. That's goodyear, she's talking you. Yes, 264 00:11:43,429 --> 00:11:46,828 Speaker 3: she holds all the cards. I said to her a 265 00:11:46,909 --> 00:11:48,788 Speaker 3: couple of days ago, just because we do want to 266 00:11:48,828 --> 00:11:50,908 Speaker 3: move this on seminar. A bit over it, as I 267 00:11:50,949 --> 00:11:52,828 Speaker 3: said you before the daycare, A bit sick if you're 268 00:11:52,828 --> 00:11:55,669 Speaker 3: hanging around at the front, and I think she's entited 269 00:11:55,669 --> 00:11:57,268 Speaker 3: to carry on with her life. She doesn't deserve a 270 00:11:57,309 --> 00:11:58,468 Speaker 3: stalker at her age. 271 00:11:58,588 --> 00:12:00,309 Speaker 1: So give me rocking up in the morning and dropping 272 00:12:00,348 --> 00:12:03,508 Speaker 1: getting I totally get it. So I said to her, Maxie, 273 00:12:03,508 --> 00:12:05,268 Speaker 1: what can what you do to win your affections back? 274 00:12:05,628 --> 00:12:07,229 Speaker 1: I played the audio before I played for you again. 275 00:12:07,268 --> 00:12:10,588 Speaker 3: This is what she did count for me. You would 276 00:12:10,588 --> 00:12:11,988 Speaker 3: be happy if he makes a cake for you. 277 00:12:13,429 --> 00:12:16,708 Speaker 2: Okay, Now, baking's not necessarily my bag in general. 278 00:12:17,189 --> 00:12:19,988 Speaker 3: Famously, at a sharehouse, served a souf fry, which was 279 00:12:20,029 --> 00:12:24,988 Speaker 3: a you put some sushi, you put some sushi and 280 00:12:25,029 --> 00:12:28,789 Speaker 3: some nacho's in the oven and mix them together. Yeah, yeah, 281 00:12:29,588 --> 00:12:31,949 Speaker 3: sou fry, sushi and a stirf fry. Yeah, yeah, well 282 00:12:31,988 --> 00:12:34,828 Speaker 3: a stir fried nacha was delicious dish. I found out 283 00:12:34,868 --> 00:12:37,069 Speaker 3: later when I went to bed. Everyone threw it out anyway, 284 00:12:37,588 --> 00:12:40,228 Speaker 3: and I was never allowed to cook again. But I 285 00:12:40,508 --> 00:12:44,669 Speaker 3: just I need some more direction on what cake she wants, 286 00:12:44,708 --> 00:12:47,428 Speaker 3: because right now it's just too broad. Like you know, 287 00:12:47,508 --> 00:12:49,428 Speaker 3: you don't just have cake written on a menu, do 288 00:12:49,468 --> 00:12:50,028 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 289 00:12:50,149 --> 00:12:52,429 Speaker 1: So I just think if it's okay with you, because 290 00:12:52,468 --> 00:12:54,628 Speaker 1: I do appreciate that I am starting to intrude on 291 00:12:54,988 --> 00:12:58,029 Speaker 1: your family. WHI give her a quick tinkle now, yeah, 292 00:12:58,069 --> 00:13:01,828 Speaker 1: so I've checked with sim we can call her great, okay, 293 00:13:01,909 --> 00:13:02,309 Speaker 1: it quick. 294 00:13:03,429 --> 00:13:06,148 Speaker 3: You didn't talk. Well, First of all, she knows that 295 00:13:06,228 --> 00:13:08,349 Speaker 3: you're with me because she knows that I'm at work, 296 00:13:08,909 --> 00:13:11,468 Speaker 3: So I won't talk. Sam told me that I don't 297 00:13:11,508 --> 00:13:15,268 Speaker 3: think you'll need to talk. Apparently she's quite about to 298 00:13:15,309 --> 00:13:17,348 Speaker 3: find she's not a Jedi. She can't sense that I'm here. 299 00:13:17,468 --> 00:13:20,548 Speaker 3: I won't talk. All right, Well, say, I think she's 300 00:13:20,549 --> 00:13:26,868 Speaker 3: pretty averse to you, but all right, here we go. Hi. Hello, 301 00:13:28,508 --> 00:13:29,268 Speaker 3: how are we going there? 302 00:13:30,108 --> 00:13:30,588 Speaker 6: You're good? 303 00:13:31,508 --> 00:13:31,628 Speaker 3: Uh? 304 00:13:33,388 --> 00:13:33,788 Speaker 10: The phone? 305 00:13:34,348 --> 00:13:34,588 Speaker 3: Thank you? 306 00:13:35,508 --> 00:13:37,669 Speaker 1: Don member brother? Oh? 307 00:13:37,708 --> 00:13:43,069 Speaker 3: Hi Maxie. She knows, she knows he's here. Doesn't she 308 00:13:45,228 --> 00:13:49,348 Speaker 3: she knows that what he's here? Don't on me? I 309 00:13:49,429 --> 00:13:52,868 Speaker 3: said nothing, send me. You might have to ask you 310 00:13:52,909 --> 00:13:57,588 Speaker 3: a question. If wood he makes her a cake, you're on? 311 00:13:57,828 --> 00:13:58,029 Speaker 1: Yeah? 312 00:13:58,508 --> 00:14:00,468 Speaker 3: What? What's what sort of cake does she want? 313 00:14:05,268 --> 00:14:05,428 Speaker 1: You know? 314 00:14:05,508 --> 00:14:08,509 Speaker 6: When you like crawl on your elbows forward were calling 315 00:14:08,588 --> 00:14:09,108 Speaker 6: to agree? 316 00:14:09,909 --> 00:14:13,869 Speaker 2: She's army, crowling away escape? 317 00:14:18,628 --> 00:14:19,189 Speaker 9: What makes you? 318 00:14:19,229 --> 00:14:19,589 Speaker 10: What cake? 319 00:14:19,629 --> 00:14:20,069 Speaker 5: Do you want? 320 00:14:22,508 --> 00:14:26,949 Speaker 3: Chocolate? Okay? 321 00:14:27,309 --> 00:14:30,349 Speaker 2: Would you like white chocolate or milk chocolate? 322 00:14:32,309 --> 00:14:37,469 Speaker 3: White chocolate? You don't even know what? And what do 323 00:14:37,549 --> 00:14:39,109 Speaker 3: you want on the cake? Makes you? Do you want 324 00:14:39,189 --> 00:14:41,869 Speaker 3: the Little Mermaid? Do you want Santa Claus? Do you 325 00:14:41,949 --> 00:14:45,629 Speaker 3: want the Easter Bunny? What do you want? She's drunk 326 00:14:45,709 --> 00:14:54,949 Speaker 3: with power, she's laughing at me. Okay, going out like 327 00:14:54,989 --> 00:15:01,349 Speaker 3: a Bond villain eupathetic adults. I'm going You're right where 328 00:15:01,429 --> 00:15:03,949 Speaker 3: I want you? And she does? She has does okay, 329 00:15:04,388 --> 00:15:06,989 Speaker 3: white white chocolate cake. I think that's all we're going 330 00:15:07,069 --> 00:15:07,629 Speaker 3: to get out of there? 331 00:15:07,989 --> 00:15:08,469 Speaker 2: Is that hard? 332 00:15:09,069 --> 00:15:12,069 Speaker 3: Is that hard to do it? Mate? Can I suggest something? 333 00:15:12,388 --> 00:15:12,589 Speaker 11: Yeah? 334 00:15:12,709 --> 00:15:14,869 Speaker 3: By it? Oh? I s you have no idea? 335 00:15:15,469 --> 00:15:15,669 Speaker 1: Yeah? 336 00:15:20,789 --> 00:15:22,548 Speaker 3: I was going to say the Australian bear grills, but 337 00:15:22,549 --> 00:15:25,229 Speaker 3: I feel like that under sells a Jena chick is 338 00:15:25,309 --> 00:15:30,349 Speaker 3: on willing Woody. Hello, Gena, Hi, it's so good to 339 00:15:30,429 --> 00:15:30,788 Speaker 3: be here. 340 00:15:30,869 --> 00:15:32,029 Speaker 10: I love you guys so much. 341 00:15:32,309 --> 00:15:33,148 Speaker 2: Oh, we love you. 342 00:15:33,469 --> 00:15:35,309 Speaker 3: We were just saying before we went live there. 343 00:15:35,388 --> 00:15:37,548 Speaker 1: Last time we spoke to you, you were kayaking in 344 00:15:37,589 --> 00:15:38,669 Speaker 1: the middle of Antarctica. 345 00:15:38,909 --> 00:15:41,029 Speaker 2: You've just informed us you are in Alice Springs. 346 00:15:41,149 --> 00:15:42,429 Speaker 3: What are you doing in Alice Springs. 347 00:15:42,949 --> 00:15:45,949 Speaker 10: I've been part of the Northern Territory Writers Festival on 348 00:15:46,469 --> 00:15:49,829 Speaker 10: DA Country and yeah, it's been absolutely magic. I also 349 00:15:49,909 --> 00:15:53,149 Speaker 10: did get to climb up a hill behind the venue 350 00:15:53,429 --> 00:15:56,189 Speaker 10: and you know, watch the sunset last night over the 351 00:15:56,309 --> 00:15:59,269 Speaker 10: mountains in the desert and it was bloody beautiful. 352 00:15:59,388 --> 00:16:01,349 Speaker 2: I think for most people in their rider it's things 353 00:16:01,469 --> 00:16:02,109 Speaker 2: like snacks. 354 00:16:02,709 --> 00:16:05,189 Speaker 1: Maybe a TV is your writer, just like there needs 355 00:16:05,229 --> 00:16:08,028 Speaker 1: to be a mountain in the vicinity that I can climb. 356 00:16:09,029 --> 00:16:11,308 Speaker 10: Much, or some space where I can get outside and 357 00:16:11,388 --> 00:16:15,308 Speaker 10: actually just lie in the dirt. I'm not joking, or 358 00:16:15,549 --> 00:16:18,028 Speaker 10: a fire that I can you know, be a part of, 359 00:16:18,189 --> 00:16:20,949 Speaker 10: so that my hair actually smells like fire smoke instead 360 00:16:20,989 --> 00:16:23,549 Speaker 10: of you know, boring clean shampoo and conditioner. 361 00:16:24,268 --> 00:16:26,428 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were just joking about this off mic that 362 00:16:27,268 --> 00:16:29,908 Speaker 3: that you've got this brand that basically just allows you 363 00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:32,388 Speaker 3: to do whatever you want now because everyone just expects 364 00:16:32,469 --> 00:16:34,989 Speaker 3: that of you. You get to go barefoot everywhere. Yeah, 365 00:16:35,029 --> 00:16:35,469 Speaker 3: I get to go. 366 00:16:35,469 --> 00:16:37,989 Speaker 10: Barefoot except on planes because you miss planes. 367 00:16:38,429 --> 00:16:42,269 Speaker 3: They won't let you on. Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah. 368 00:16:42,309 --> 00:16:44,189 Speaker 1: I had that issue with my daughter. Actually, I couldn't 369 00:16:44,189 --> 00:16:46,668 Speaker 1: believe it. They wanted the shoes on, shared the shoes of. 370 00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:48,469 Speaker 1: It was a big tantrum. But enough about that. 371 00:16:48,669 --> 00:16:50,669 Speaker 3: Hey, Gena, you're at the Writer's Festival and I don't 372 00:16:51,189 --> 00:16:55,268 Speaker 3: a brand new book. We are the Stars, so congratulations. 373 00:16:55,349 --> 00:16:57,469 Speaker 3: I know this is me talking to you about another celebrity, 374 00:16:57,508 --> 00:16:58,749 Speaker 3: but what do you I just found out that you 375 00:16:58,829 --> 00:17:01,028 Speaker 3: were best friends with Hugh Jackman. That's wild. 376 00:17:01,789 --> 00:17:03,629 Speaker 10: Yeah, well apparently that's wild to me. 377 00:17:03,749 --> 00:17:05,909 Speaker 2: It's just Hubie, it's Hubi. 378 00:17:05,869 --> 00:17:09,949 Speaker 1: Because because you became mates actually before either of you 379 00:17:10,189 --> 00:17:11,029 Speaker 1: became famous. 380 00:17:11,109 --> 00:17:11,388 Speaker 3: Gina. 381 00:17:11,509 --> 00:17:15,349 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, like thirty seven years ago. So he's just 382 00:17:15,469 --> 00:17:17,029 Speaker 10: my mate, you know, he's just my mate. 383 00:17:17,149 --> 00:17:19,349 Speaker 3: So I was listening he said that he met you. 384 00:17:19,789 --> 00:17:21,269 Speaker 3: I've got a bit of audio for it. I think 385 00:17:21,309 --> 00:17:24,668 Speaker 3: this is one of your book wards, Gina. I met Gigi. 386 00:17:25,109 --> 00:17:28,549 Speaker 10: I met on Furst Day at university when I was 387 00:17:28,629 --> 00:17:32,989 Speaker 10: nineteen years old and we became best friends and. 388 00:17:33,109 --> 00:17:36,549 Speaker 3: Salat to this date. So I mean like obviously our 389 00:17:37,109 --> 00:17:39,669 Speaker 3: preconceptions of that interaction is that he's wearing the wolverine 390 00:17:39,669 --> 00:17:41,829 Speaker 3: outfit and you rock up, rolling dirt and bare feet, 391 00:17:41,949 --> 00:17:46,069 Speaker 3: of course, but you're nineteen, So how did that transpire? 392 00:17:46,269 --> 00:17:47,789 Speaker 3: If you don't mind hearing it was. 393 00:17:47,869 --> 00:17:50,149 Speaker 10: Just Uni first day at Uni, you know, it's like 394 00:17:50,349 --> 00:17:53,869 Speaker 10: it's pretty boring. You know, everyone that you see on 395 00:17:54,029 --> 00:17:56,869 Speaker 10: Telly or is a celebrity, like they have an actual life, 396 00:17:57,069 --> 00:17:59,149 Speaker 10: and Gibby and I are just part of each other's 397 00:17:59,229 --> 00:18:01,509 Speaker 10: lives in the boring backstage way. 398 00:18:01,749 --> 00:18:02,029 Speaker 3: Love that. 399 00:18:02,229 --> 00:18:03,589 Speaker 1: So if the two of you are just on a 400 00:18:03,629 --> 00:18:06,869 Speaker 1: boring camping trip, so you've got Wolverine for one, and 401 00:18:06,909 --> 00:18:09,829 Speaker 1: then you've got you survival expert. If there's a bear 402 00:18:10,349 --> 00:18:13,229 Speaker 1: that's approaching the camp side, question, who are you sending out? 403 00:18:13,349 --> 00:18:16,669 Speaker 2: Is it you or is it Hubie? I don't think 404 00:18:16,669 --> 00:18:16,829 Speaker 2: I have. 405 00:18:16,869 --> 00:18:21,709 Speaker 10: An answer for that question. Maybe you know what I think, 406 00:18:21,749 --> 00:18:22,949 Speaker 10: maybe we joined forces. 407 00:18:23,389 --> 00:18:26,469 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, nice howers combined. 408 00:18:26,029 --> 00:18:35,949 Speaker 4: Sounds like you're protecting human It sounds like, hey, Gina, 409 00:18:36,429 --> 00:18:39,989 Speaker 4: you obviously beautifully authentic, And I mean like that's kind 410 00:18:39,989 --> 00:18:41,789 Speaker 4: of why I think Australia has fallen in love with you, 411 00:18:41,989 --> 00:18:44,909 Speaker 4: just you know, to watch you when you were doing 412 00:18:44,989 --> 00:18:45,829 Speaker 4: alone in Australia. 413 00:18:45,909 --> 00:18:47,829 Speaker 3: You know, you get this very raw version of someone 414 00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:49,829 Speaker 3: you have to beat yourself here, as you said, you're 415 00:18:49,829 --> 00:18:52,029 Speaker 3: there for you know, sixty seven days in the wilderness 416 00:18:52,029 --> 00:18:53,549 Speaker 3: by yourself. You have a camera on you the whole time. 417 00:18:54,029 --> 00:18:56,029 Speaker 3: But I love that that's part of who you are. 418 00:18:56,069 --> 00:18:58,189 Speaker 3: And I know I saw that you speaking on a 419 00:18:58,309 --> 00:19:01,309 Speaker 3: bite with Alice on the ABC recently. You were saying 420 00:19:01,349 --> 00:19:04,989 Speaker 3: that you were like surprised that you are really one 421 00:19:04,989 --> 00:19:07,309 Speaker 3: of the few women who is your age who is 422 00:19:07,349 --> 00:19:11,349 Speaker 3: actually a genuine representation of how they look. How important 423 00:19:11,389 --> 00:19:13,269 Speaker 3: for you is it is it to see like older 424 00:19:13,309 --> 00:19:16,909 Speaker 3: women not necessarily changing who they are or how they look, 425 00:19:16,989 --> 00:19:19,549 Speaker 3: and actually just being themselves. 426 00:19:19,949 --> 00:19:22,909 Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I mean, look for starters. I respect anyone's 427 00:19:22,949 --> 00:19:26,029 Speaker 10: decision to whatever, you know, whatever women want to do 428 00:19:26,109 --> 00:19:30,309 Speaker 10: with their bodies, absolutely, but I think me it's more 429 00:19:30,469 --> 00:19:34,029 Speaker 10: that the women who get selected to be shown in 430 00:19:34,149 --> 00:19:37,189 Speaker 10: the media. Oh shit, I'm so sorry that's doing bvp 431 00:19:37,349 --> 00:19:38,469 Speaker 10: things And I don't know how to make it. 432 00:19:41,509 --> 00:19:43,309 Speaker 3: Sixty seven days but put her in front of her 433 00:19:43,349 --> 00:19:45,989 Speaker 3: laptop and she's a classic boomer. 434 00:19:46,149 --> 00:19:48,629 Speaker 1: I did. 435 00:19:50,749 --> 00:19:55,669 Speaker 10: There's notifications anyway, I might be whatever. 436 00:19:55,949 --> 00:19:58,509 Speaker 3: Great to see Gina. Thanks coming will and thank you 437 00:19:58,669 --> 00:20:03,949 Speaker 3: so much. Thirteen sixty five would say, we're asking, what 438 00:20:04,069 --> 00:20:06,229 Speaker 3: is the worst fight you've had with your partner while 439 00:20:06,269 --> 00:20:07,189 Speaker 3: you've been traveling. 440 00:20:07,349 --> 00:20:09,749 Speaker 1: I think it happens to all of us. I don't 441 00:20:09,789 --> 00:20:11,549 Speaker 1: know why, but we fight on holiday. It happened with 442 00:20:11,869 --> 00:20:15,469 Speaker 1: French president Emanuel Nachon. He's been seen, I mean, getting 443 00:20:15,549 --> 00:20:18,109 Speaker 1: slapped effectively by his wife as they stepped off a plane. 444 00:20:18,349 --> 00:20:18,829 Speaker 3: Delicious. 445 00:20:19,149 --> 00:20:22,109 Speaker 1: He did mention before that she's his teacher. So maybe 446 00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:24,149 Speaker 1: that you told me not to mention that. So I 447 00:20:24,189 --> 00:20:26,549 Speaker 1: don't know why we're going back she was his teacher, 448 00:20:26,629 --> 00:20:28,949 Speaker 1: maybe that maybe that's just the sort of relationship. Perhaps 449 00:20:28,989 --> 00:20:32,269 Speaker 1: she still punishes him like a naughty boy occasionally. I 450 00:20:32,309 --> 00:20:34,389 Speaker 1: won't comment on that, but maybe that might be a 451 00:20:34,469 --> 00:20:35,989 Speaker 1: thing of this, you know, that might be that's a 452 00:20:36,029 --> 00:20:38,909 Speaker 1: happy dynamic for them. They have said actually interesting to 453 00:20:38,949 --> 00:20:41,629 Speaker 1: say that that they were playfighting, so could be some 454 00:20:41,749 --> 00:20:42,149 Speaker 1: truth to that. 455 00:20:42,469 --> 00:20:44,469 Speaker 2: I don't forget. This is Mum and dad. 456 00:20:46,429 --> 00:20:51,549 Speaker 1: Dad is against like taxis when he's overseas, like he's more. 457 00:20:51,429 --> 00:20:55,189 Speaker 3: Of a great travel. He's like, no plans, no taxis. 458 00:20:55,949 --> 00:20:58,749 Speaker 2: He's like, we're in this city once in our lives. 459 00:20:58,789 --> 00:21:00,669 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't we enjoy the streets. 460 00:21:00,709 --> 00:21:01,429 Speaker 3: I go for a walk. 461 00:21:01,509 --> 00:21:03,669 Speaker 1: I never forget my mum saying we're pretty far from 462 00:21:03,709 --> 00:21:06,189 Speaker 1: the hotel. I think we need some public transport. It's 463 00:21:06,269 --> 00:21:09,469 Speaker 1: late Steve and he goes, no, why walk, And then 464 00:21:09,589 --> 00:21:10,989 Speaker 1: the rest of the family gets in the cabin. 465 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:14,229 Speaker 3: Dad walks. It took him six hours to walk down hour. 466 00:21:14,509 --> 00:21:16,429 Speaker 1: He was on the other side of the city and 467 00:21:16,509 --> 00:21:18,749 Speaker 1: he got last he knew and he still said. 468 00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:21,188 Speaker 2: I had a lovely not going for affordable. We're in London. 469 00:21:21,909 --> 00:21:23,629 Speaker 2: We're in London and you wanted a walk? 470 00:21:23,749 --> 00:21:26,428 Speaker 3: Or no, you can't walk around London. Ah, let's got 471 00:21:26,469 --> 00:21:27,029 Speaker 3: to come in here. 472 00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:30,148 Speaker 2: Come. And this was a recent fight on. 473 00:21:30,269 --> 00:21:34,429 Speaker 8: Holiday, super recent, like just a week ago. 474 00:21:35,349 --> 00:21:36,989 Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay fresh one freshman. 475 00:21:37,109 --> 00:21:40,189 Speaker 8: Ok yeah, super fresh. So like the family's still not talking, 476 00:21:40,869 --> 00:21:41,509 Speaker 8: oh wow. 477 00:21:42,429 --> 00:21:42,629 Speaker 6: Yeah. 478 00:21:43,469 --> 00:21:46,029 Speaker 8: So what happened was we went to South Africa. It 479 00:21:46,149 --> 00:21:49,309 Speaker 8: was my brother's wedding and we'd booked with my parents, 480 00:21:49,629 --> 00:21:53,269 Speaker 8: my husband, myself and our toddlers go all over together 481 00:21:53,989 --> 00:21:56,229 Speaker 8: and we were there for a month and the last 482 00:21:56,309 --> 00:21:59,429 Speaker 8: forty eight hours. My husband decides that he's had enough 483 00:21:59,589 --> 00:22:05,789 Speaker 8: of my dad's controlling behavior and decided to go Mia 484 00:22:06,029 --> 00:22:09,309 Speaker 8: for forty eight hours. And literally on the day that 485 00:22:09,429 --> 00:22:13,029 Speaker 8: we are meant to fly back to the city, get 486 00:22:13,069 --> 00:22:15,309 Speaker 8: a call to say he's in hospital. He ended up 487 00:22:15,349 --> 00:22:19,229 Speaker 8: at a casino, had too many drinks, tripped over something, 488 00:22:19,349 --> 00:22:21,829 Speaker 8: and needed ten staples in the back of his head. 489 00:22:22,909 --> 00:22:25,709 Speaker 8: And that was literally hours before we had to be 490 00:22:25,789 --> 00:22:32,029 Speaker 8: at the airport. Makes fly. It was disastrous, And then 491 00:22:32,069 --> 00:22:34,749 Speaker 8: it just kept yeah, and then he met us at 492 00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:38,229 Speaker 8: the airport on time, for God, but it just kept 493 00:22:38,309 --> 00:22:42,429 Speaker 8: going like the whole fly was like a disaster. He 494 00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:43,989 Speaker 8: chose to sit on a different aisle. 495 00:22:44,989 --> 00:22:46,229 Speaker 3: It was just a week ago. 496 00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:48,429 Speaker 8: Just a week ago, yes, yeah, So. 497 00:22:48,909 --> 00:22:50,349 Speaker 3: Who packed his bags coming then? 498 00:22:50,429 --> 00:22:52,149 Speaker 1: Like, if he's gone straight to the airport after having 499 00:22:52,189 --> 00:22:54,109 Speaker 1: a stack at the casino, are his bags still in 500 00:22:54,189 --> 00:22:55,309 Speaker 1: South Africa? No? 501 00:22:55,629 --> 00:22:58,149 Speaker 8: So I packed everything. I packed everything up and took 502 00:22:58,189 --> 00:23:00,469 Speaker 8: it with me and it was like, well, if he's 503 00:23:00,509 --> 00:23:02,389 Speaker 8: not there, then I'm going to have to just leave 504 00:23:02,429 --> 00:23:08,829 Speaker 8: it because I don't have the extra allow it. She 505 00:23:08,989 --> 00:23:10,269 Speaker 8: was in such a mood. He was like, I'll just 506 00:23:10,309 --> 00:23:11,469 Speaker 8: buy a new clothes it's fine. 507 00:23:11,829 --> 00:23:15,148 Speaker 3: And I was just like, oh, my couragible, aren't they 508 00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:22,109 Speaker 3: It was awful, and my dad was, yeah, of course, it's. 509 00:23:21,949 --> 00:23:22,509 Speaker 2: A long flight. 510 00:23:22,589 --> 00:23:23,589 Speaker 3: It's a long flight home. 511 00:23:23,749 --> 00:23:25,749 Speaker 8: It was a long flight, and it's been a long 512 00:23:25,789 --> 00:23:26,309 Speaker 8: week since. 513 00:23:26,389 --> 00:23:28,429 Speaker 1: I still hear that coming and unity voice, and I 514 00:23:28,469 --> 00:23:30,989 Speaker 1: feel for you speaking of men being encouragable overseas. 515 00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:32,629 Speaker 3: Yes, so I went to a ski resort with my 516 00:23:32,669 --> 00:23:34,909 Speaker 3: partner Sam in Japan. She's a great skier. 517 00:23:35,149 --> 00:23:38,469 Speaker 1: Yes, She's generally very good at which is much better 518 00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:41,749 Speaker 1: at sports than me, which is already humiliating. Yes, I 519 00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:44,749 Speaker 1: was snowboarding because I'm you know, I'm a low pant 520 00:23:44,829 --> 00:23:45,589 Speaker 1: riding cool guy. 521 00:23:46,229 --> 00:23:49,229 Speaker 3: I'd never snowboarded in powder before. I'm not sure's ever been. 522 00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:50,908 Speaker 3: In Japan. It's kind of famous for having this. 523 00:23:50,989 --> 00:23:54,709 Speaker 1: Like caster sugar style snow, which is traditionally very hard 524 00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:56,469 Speaker 1: to navigate, particularly on a snowboard. 525 00:23:56,749 --> 00:23:59,829 Speaker 3: But again, I'm encourageable. I'm a man chipping my shulder 526 00:23:59,829 --> 00:24:01,469 Speaker 3: about the fact that my partner's better at sports than 527 00:24:01,509 --> 00:24:02,709 Speaker 3: I am. I don't need ski school. 528 00:24:02,709 --> 00:24:04,669 Speaker 1: I'll get straight out, mate, take me to take me 529 00:24:04,749 --> 00:24:06,709 Speaker 1: off piece, as they would say. So we were going 530 00:24:06,749 --> 00:24:08,429 Speaker 1: down a standard run. Sam said, I'm going to go 531 00:24:08,509 --> 00:24:11,789 Speaker 1: off piece. Anyway, I went down off piece, So what 532 00:24:11,949 --> 00:24:12,389 Speaker 1: is off piece? 533 00:24:12,509 --> 00:24:16,909 Speaker 3: Mean? Off the trail? So it's just trees and like 534 00:24:17,069 --> 00:24:20,349 Speaker 3: cast a sugar snow. I take one turn, I go under. 535 00:24:20,509 --> 00:24:21,309 Speaker 3: And when I say I go. 536 00:24:21,429 --> 00:24:23,509 Speaker 1: Under, I mean like the snow is over my head. 537 00:24:23,829 --> 00:24:26,549 Speaker 1: I cannot reach my bindings and the snow is caving 538 00:24:26,629 --> 00:24:28,149 Speaker 1: into the hole in my face. 539 00:24:28,669 --> 00:24:30,749 Speaker 3: It is so hectic. I was like, I'm going to 540 00:24:30,829 --> 00:24:32,669 Speaker 3: die here in the snow. In Japan, have is people 541 00:24:32,669 --> 00:24:33,269 Speaker 3: we get buried? Right? 542 00:24:33,309 --> 00:24:33,509 Speaker 11: Yeah? 543 00:24:33,549 --> 00:24:33,709 Speaker 1: Yeah? 544 00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:36,589 Speaker 3: So I start screaming. I'm like, Sam, Sam, you know, 545 00:24:36,829 --> 00:24:39,989 Speaker 3: finally she's heard me. So she stops getting She walks 546 00:24:40,109 --> 00:24:43,549 Speaker 3: up the slope and I'm like, Sam, can you just 547 00:24:43,629 --> 00:24:45,069 Speaker 3: pass me one of your poles. You're gonna have to 548 00:24:45,149 --> 00:24:46,549 Speaker 3: drag me out of here. I was like, you knows, 549 00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:48,309 Speaker 3: we might forget the skidoo up here and drag me 550 00:24:48,349 --> 00:24:48,789 Speaker 3: out this or. 551 00:24:49,469 --> 00:24:52,309 Speaker 1: She reaches down and then instead of grabbing her pole, 552 00:24:52,349 --> 00:24:53,629 Speaker 1: grabs her phone out and. 553 00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:55,389 Speaker 3: Takes a photo of me in the snow. I've seen 554 00:24:55,429 --> 00:24:57,949 Speaker 3: the shut It's a great photo. We did not talk 555 00:24:58,629 --> 00:25:02,149 Speaker 3: for the whole day. That was the first thing in 556 00:25:02,229 --> 00:25:05,069 Speaker 3: the morning. We skied all day together, to the point 557 00:25:05,109 --> 00:25:07,909 Speaker 3: where some of the chairlifts at the snow resort with 558 00:25:08,069 --> 00:25:11,869 Speaker 3: massive half an hour on the chair. Yeah, and we 559 00:25:11,909 --> 00:25:14,869 Speaker 3: would sit on there with a stranger and the stranger 560 00:25:14,869 --> 00:25:17,509 Speaker 3: would only figure out like twenty minutes into the run. Oh, 561 00:25:17,549 --> 00:25:20,429 Speaker 3: you guys actually know each other. You just wouldn't talk 562 00:25:21,069 --> 00:25:22,589 Speaker 3: bloody hell. Yeah. 563 00:25:22,709 --> 00:25:32,429 Speaker 2: It is a great It's great. If you're not across. 564 00:25:32,589 --> 00:25:35,469 Speaker 1: What happened to an amazing woman called Chloe Pink, I'll 565 00:25:35,549 --> 00:25:36,429 Speaker 1: quickly recap it. 566 00:25:36,629 --> 00:25:38,429 Speaker 2: So Chloe Pink. 567 00:25:38,629 --> 00:25:42,029 Speaker 1: Married Toby Pink, who is a North Melbourne AFL footballer. 568 00:25:42,309 --> 00:25:46,029 Speaker 1: They had a secret wedding earlier this year. A couple 569 00:25:46,069 --> 00:25:49,709 Speaker 1: of months later, media found out that they got married 570 00:25:49,949 --> 00:25:52,989 Speaker 1: secretly and reached out to them and said, hey, we'd 571 00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:55,589 Speaker 1: just love to cover in the news the fact that 572 00:25:55,709 --> 00:25:56,749 Speaker 1: you had this secret wedding. 573 00:25:57,349 --> 00:25:58,549 Speaker 2: Chloe and Toby said yes. 574 00:25:59,149 --> 00:25:59,189 Speaker 1: So. 575 00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:59,869 Speaker 3: I think a few. 576 00:25:59,789 --> 00:26:02,269 Speaker 1: Outlets the Herald Son I think they were the first 577 00:26:02,309 --> 00:26:04,629 Speaker 1: ones to jump on it in Melbourne. They posted some 578 00:26:04,709 --> 00:26:07,149 Speaker 1: photos of the wedding, did a story about the secret wedding. 579 00:26:08,349 --> 00:26:11,349 Speaker 2: When this story got out, the. 580 00:26:11,589 --> 00:26:16,109 Speaker 1: Comments that were made on the story online were disgusting. 581 00:26:17,189 --> 00:26:20,909 Speaker 1: A lot about Chloe's appearance. So we brought Chloe into 582 00:26:20,949 --> 00:26:22,629 Speaker 1: the studio and she spoke about that. 583 00:26:23,189 --> 00:26:27,109 Speaker 12: Wow, there was a lot of vile comments coming hard 584 00:26:27,189 --> 00:26:30,389 Speaker 12: and fast, all about my appearance, all about my weight. 585 00:26:31,109 --> 00:26:34,549 Speaker 12: There were comments calling me a fridge, comments saying that 586 00:26:34,709 --> 00:26:40,629 Speaker 12: Toby was a AFL player by day, pick hunter by night. Yeah, 587 00:26:41,069 --> 00:26:44,389 Speaker 12: there was the comments that genuinely shocked me, not even 588 00:26:44,469 --> 00:26:47,269 Speaker 12: just calling me fat. Like, there was really vile comments. 589 00:26:47,349 --> 00:26:49,709 Speaker 12: And they were not just one or two I think, 590 00:26:50,069 --> 00:26:53,309 Speaker 12: yeah it was. It was it's been a hard, hard week, 591 00:26:54,349 --> 00:26:56,709 Speaker 12: not just one or two either. There were so many, 592 00:26:57,229 --> 00:26:59,908 Speaker 12: and Harold Sun did what they could, like they were 593 00:26:59,949 --> 00:27:01,989 Speaker 12: deleting the comments, and eventually they had to turn off 594 00:27:02,029 --> 00:27:05,309 Speaker 12: the comments. But it was I'd never experienced anything like it, 595 00:27:05,429 --> 00:27:07,709 Speaker 12: and I guess I it was a bit naive, and 596 00:27:07,789 --> 00:27:09,229 Speaker 12: I know that I'm going to get hate comment. I 597 00:27:09,389 --> 00:27:11,269 Speaker 12: know that someone's going to call me fat, but I 598 00:27:11,389 --> 00:27:13,149 Speaker 12: didn't expect it to this extent. 599 00:27:13,389 --> 00:27:15,829 Speaker 3: Did you know that? Sorry just to because he said 600 00:27:15,949 --> 00:27:17,309 Speaker 3: I knew that I was going to get a comment. 601 00:27:17,829 --> 00:27:19,709 Speaker 3: Someone's good. So Jackie calls you in the Herald Sun. 602 00:27:19,989 --> 00:27:22,189 Speaker 3: Probably a lot of people's dream in the back of 603 00:27:22,269 --> 00:27:23,789 Speaker 3: your mind was also a thought where you were like, 604 00:27:23,949 --> 00:27:26,509 Speaker 3: I know someone's going to call me fat publicly in 605 00:27:26,629 --> 00:27:27,229 Speaker 3: these photos? 606 00:27:27,829 --> 00:27:29,749 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know. 607 00:27:30,069 --> 00:27:30,829 Speaker 3: How did you know that? 608 00:27:31,749 --> 00:27:35,629 Speaker 12: Because I've been to another event where my photo's being posted. 609 00:27:36,109 --> 00:27:39,029 Speaker 12: I've also received one or two comments about the way 610 00:27:39,069 --> 00:27:41,389 Speaker 12: that I look. I can take that, which I shouldn't 611 00:27:41,389 --> 00:27:45,309 Speaker 12: have to, but I did not expect the vile comments 612 00:27:45,389 --> 00:27:48,109 Speaker 12: and to the extent and the nature of what was 613 00:27:48,189 --> 00:27:48,509 Speaker 12: to come. 614 00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:51,229 Speaker 2: So when these comments start coming through, how did you 615 00:27:51,309 --> 00:27:51,709 Speaker 2: see them? 616 00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:54,509 Speaker 12: So I read the comments and I just spent I 617 00:27:54,589 --> 00:27:58,549 Speaker 12: think three days straight crying home. Initially, Toby's like, no way, 618 00:27:58,909 --> 00:28:02,149 Speaker 12: there's no way, and Taba just sat there in silence 619 00:28:02,309 --> 00:28:04,189 Speaker 12: for like a good day and he's like, I am 620 00:28:04,469 --> 00:28:07,909 Speaker 12: so sorry. And it felt like he was apologizing to 621 00:28:07,989 --> 00:28:11,189 Speaker 12: me because I was saying, oh, it's just I was 622 00:28:11,229 --> 00:28:13,349 Speaker 12: crying and it really hurt. But in the back of 623 00:28:13,389 --> 00:28:16,029 Speaker 12: my mind, I kept saying, it's just part of his job. 624 00:28:16,109 --> 00:28:17,989 Speaker 12: It's fine, it's just part of his job. But the 625 00:28:18,109 --> 00:28:20,469 Speaker 12: more I reflect on that, it's not If I say 626 00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:23,629 Speaker 12: that I'm excusing your behavior, and I go into my 627 00:28:23,749 --> 00:28:26,429 Speaker 12: TikTok and I have like hundreds of comments there. Yes, 628 00:28:26,709 --> 00:28:29,949 Speaker 12: ninety nine percent of my response has been from women, 629 00:28:30,349 --> 00:28:33,709 Speaker 12: but only one percent has been from men. Yeah, one percent, 630 00:28:33,949 --> 00:28:36,829 Speaker 12: ninety nine percent women. It's up to us men to 631 00:28:37,589 --> 00:28:39,149 Speaker 12: call it out. It's not going to stop if the 632 00:28:39,229 --> 00:28:40,229 Speaker 12: men are calling it out. 633 00:28:41,469 --> 00:28:43,389 Speaker 1: So I want to pick up on what she just 634 00:28:43,509 --> 00:28:45,709 Speaker 1: said there at the end of that audio, which is 635 00:28:45,789 --> 00:28:49,869 Speaker 1: that only one percent of men were commenting or messaging 636 00:28:49,949 --> 00:28:53,149 Speaker 1: her in support. So we posted a video of her 637 00:28:53,229 --> 00:28:56,429 Speaker 1: coming to the studio and got a massive response, thousands 638 00:28:56,469 --> 00:28:59,309 Speaker 1: of comments apparently. And my wife actually said to me, 639 00:28:59,349 --> 00:29:01,109 Speaker 1: because she saw the video. I was reading the comments, 640 00:29:01,149 --> 00:29:05,069 Speaker 1: and she said, what do he not one bloke has 641 00:29:05,109 --> 00:29:06,109 Speaker 1: commented on this video? 642 00:29:06,869 --> 00:29:07,069 Speaker 3: Wow? 643 00:29:07,149 --> 00:29:08,669 Speaker 1: If the thousands of comments that have come through these 644 00:29:08,869 --> 00:29:12,189 Speaker 1: all women, So I just thought thirteen one or six five, 645 00:29:12,309 --> 00:29:13,069 Speaker 1: it's the same. 646 00:29:12,909 --> 00:29:16,949 Speaker 3: Thing repeating effectively. Yeah, well, well not really. It's almost 647 00:29:16,989 --> 00:29:19,429 Speaker 3: worse than that, isn't it. It's like men are only 648 00:29:20,469 --> 00:29:23,189 Speaker 3: saying something if it's disgusting. 649 00:29:23,789 --> 00:29:25,189 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of blokes going I'm not 650 00:29:25,229 --> 00:29:27,189 Speaker 1: the one saying the disgusting things, so I'm not the 651 00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:29,069 Speaker 1: problem here. But I think again, I think we can 652 00:29:29,229 --> 00:29:31,709 Speaker 1: be a bit better here by being a bit proactive 653 00:29:32,229 --> 00:29:36,669 Speaker 1: and actually messaging with support they're doing more so again, 654 00:29:37,309 --> 00:29:39,349 Speaker 1: I just want to throw it out to the fellas here. 655 00:29:40,029 --> 00:29:42,589 Speaker 1: Does anyone want to call right now and just give 656 00:29:42,669 --> 00:29:44,629 Speaker 1: a thought or an opinion on this story? 657 00:29:45,869 --> 00:29:47,709 Speaker 2: Where do you sit with it? And do you want 658 00:29:47,749 --> 00:29:48,749 Speaker 2: to publicly talk about it? 659 00:29:48,829 --> 00:29:53,989 Speaker 3: Now? All right, goes up next. We just want to 660 00:29:54,029 --> 00:29:54,989 Speaker 3: hear from men at the moment. 661 00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:56,309 Speaker 2: Woods absolutely so. 662 00:29:56,349 --> 00:30:00,269 Speaker 1: We're talking about Chloe Pink, who married her high school 663 00:30:00,309 --> 00:30:03,709 Speaker 1: sweetheart Toby Pink, who's an AFL footballer. They got secretly 664 00:30:03,789 --> 00:30:07,309 Speaker 1: married earlier in the year. Months later, media did a 665 00:30:07,429 --> 00:30:09,989 Speaker 1: story about the fact that they got married in secret. 666 00:30:10,669 --> 00:30:13,949 Speaker 1: Was obviously posted online and some really vile and disgusting 667 00:30:13,989 --> 00:30:20,109 Speaker 1: comments came through about Chloe's appearance. We brought Chloe into 668 00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:22,229 Speaker 1: the studio, had a chat with her about this. I 669 00:30:22,269 --> 00:30:25,709 Speaker 1: think she actually joins us right now, actually. 670 00:30:25,469 --> 00:30:26,349 Speaker 3: Close Are you there? 671 00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:28,229 Speaker 11: Yes, yes, I'm here. 672 00:30:28,709 --> 00:30:28,869 Speaker 8: Hi. 673 00:30:29,389 --> 00:30:31,389 Speaker 1: We've opened the phone lines for guys to call now 674 00:30:31,469 --> 00:30:34,589 Speaker 1: and just give their views and thoughts on what happened 675 00:30:34,589 --> 00:30:36,309 Speaker 1: to you, Chloe. I think it's really nice actually that 676 00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:37,989 Speaker 1: you're here and they can actually say it to you. 677 00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:40,029 Speaker 1: I think that takes it one step further than just 678 00:30:41,069 --> 00:30:42,469 Speaker 1: so nice, good producing world done. 679 00:30:42,509 --> 00:30:45,989 Speaker 2: Guys. Doubletick for you too anyway, Nikki, welcome. 680 00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:46,229 Speaker 3: To the show mate. 681 00:30:46,269 --> 00:30:48,429 Speaker 5: Hello, yeah, here you going boys? 682 00:30:48,669 --> 00:30:48,829 Speaker 9: Good? 683 00:30:48,869 --> 00:30:50,629 Speaker 2: You've got Chloe here? Did you want to say something 684 00:30:50,669 --> 00:30:51,549 Speaker 2: about what happened to her? 685 00:30:52,669 --> 00:30:56,189 Speaker 5: Lurrie, you just got to ignore all that horrible and 686 00:30:56,309 --> 00:31:01,789 Speaker 5: disgusting behavior. I'm from England and obviously during the last 687 00:31:01,829 --> 00:31:05,309 Speaker 5: World Cup we have a guy called Declan Rice who's 688 00:31:05,349 --> 00:31:09,989 Speaker 5: a super excellent football player, but because his girlfriend isn't 689 00:31:10,029 --> 00:31:12,869 Speaker 5: a science eight like the rest of the team's wife, 690 00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:18,589 Speaker 5: she got so much hatred on our English website. It's 691 00:31:18,749 --> 00:31:21,989 Speaker 5: just disgusting And if I was you, I would think 692 00:31:22,029 --> 00:31:24,709 Speaker 5: to myself, you know what, I'm waking up every day 693 00:31:25,109 --> 00:31:27,789 Speaker 5: next to an AFL player who earned plays the money 694 00:31:28,029 --> 00:31:29,269 Speaker 5: so sous. 695 00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:32,109 Speaker 3: That Hey, Nikki, are you like? I know your British 696 00:31:32,109 --> 00:31:34,229 Speaker 3: and I reckon the culture there is arguably in some 697 00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:37,189 Speaker 3: instance is worse than his Australia. Do you find as 698 00:31:37,189 --> 00:31:39,429 Speaker 3: a man it's hard to call out other men who 699 00:31:39,509 --> 00:31:42,669 Speaker 3: are like this, who are wait shaming and misogynistic, et cetera. 700 00:31:43,749 --> 00:31:45,829 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't even think it's got anything to do 701 00:31:45,949 --> 00:31:49,949 Speaker 5: with that. Obviously, people get so fixated within the teams 702 00:31:49,989 --> 00:31:54,069 Speaker 5: that they support that they just bag other people. Do 703 00:31:54,109 --> 00:31:54,709 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? 704 00:31:54,949 --> 00:31:56,789 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's a bit more 705 00:31:56,869 --> 00:31:58,429 Speaker 3: personal than that. But thanks to the call only here, 706 00:31:58,469 --> 00:32:01,149 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I think it's beyond football. I think 707 00:32:01,189 --> 00:32:03,389 Speaker 3: we can probably all agree that. Yeah, Chloe, I find 708 00:32:03,469 --> 00:32:08,269 Speaker 3: it ironic that your partner Toby plays AFL because I 709 00:32:08,469 --> 00:32:12,189 Speaker 3: just can't, like in any sports change room I have 710 00:32:12,309 --> 00:32:16,429 Speaker 3: been in that, I find that this is such a 711 00:32:16,989 --> 00:32:22,629 Speaker 3: task to get men to stop other men behaving in 712 00:32:22,749 --> 00:32:24,989 Speaker 3: that way. What does Toby say about that? 713 00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:27,349 Speaker 11: No, I completely agree. 714 00:32:27,469 --> 00:32:28,429 Speaker 8: He agrees as well. 715 00:32:28,989 --> 00:32:32,349 Speaker 11: I think a good point that I heard the other 716 00:32:32,469 --> 00:32:34,549 Speaker 11: day is if you're not a part of thetion, you're 717 00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:35,589 Speaker 11: still part of the system. 718 00:32:35,709 --> 00:32:39,109 Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. Yeah, Yeah, your silence is correct. 719 00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:42,789 Speaker 11: And although it may be uncomfortable, and you'll find this 720 00:32:42,909 --> 00:32:47,589 Speaker 11: comfort in calling it out, but that's nothing compared to 721 00:32:47,709 --> 00:32:51,309 Speaker 11: what women deal with every day. So it might feel 722 00:32:51,349 --> 00:32:54,349 Speaker 11: uncomfortable for you for five minutes, but that had so 723 00:32:54,509 --> 00:32:57,789 Speaker 11: much more of an impact, and that discomfort is worth 724 00:32:57,949 --> 00:32:58,789 Speaker 11: a lot of value. 725 00:32:59,509 --> 00:33:01,989 Speaker 3: Let's go to Ryan, Ryan, we've got more men calling in. 726 00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:04,549 Speaker 3: This is great. Ryan, how do you feel about this? 727 00:33:05,589 --> 00:33:09,229 Speaker 9: I'm honestly disgusted to be honest, that noble has really 728 00:33:09,309 --> 00:33:13,549 Speaker 9: come forward and showing support really because you know, as 729 00:33:13,589 --> 00:33:15,069 Speaker 9: I said to the producer before I'm going to meet 730 00:33:15,109 --> 00:33:17,269 Speaker 9: your old sister, I don't want her jumping on social 731 00:33:17,389 --> 00:33:22,389 Speaker 9: media and having that much being body shamed or hate 732 00:33:22,429 --> 00:33:26,029 Speaker 9: thrown towards her. So you know, I can't speak troll 733 00:33:26,469 --> 00:33:29,229 Speaker 9: all blokes, but on my behalf and prying my brothers 734 00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:31,389 Speaker 9: and everything. You know, if you've got nothing nice to say, 735 00:33:31,469 --> 00:33:33,349 Speaker 9: don't say it at all. You know, there's no point 736 00:33:33,389 --> 00:33:35,469 Speaker 9: putting other people down. We're trying to make the world 737 00:33:35,869 --> 00:33:39,869 Speaker 9: happier place. It's not the right day and eight for 738 00:33:39,949 --> 00:33:40,429 Speaker 9: it anymore. 739 00:33:41,229 --> 00:33:44,909 Speaker 3: I think there's also beyond the two parts I open 740 00:33:44,989 --> 00:33:47,469 Speaker 3: to this. First of all, there is definitely a sense 741 00:33:47,549 --> 00:33:49,669 Speaker 3: of like if I'm a bigger dickhead, I'm a bigger man. 742 00:33:51,309 --> 00:33:53,269 Speaker 3: We both went to private boys skills like I know 743 00:33:53,389 --> 00:33:56,429 Speaker 3: that for a fact, Like when you're a teenager, that's basically. 744 00:33:56,349 --> 00:33:59,389 Speaker 2: We're trying to impress other guys. Impress other guys. 745 00:34:00,149 --> 00:34:02,109 Speaker 3: If you do that, that's the thing that is there. 746 00:34:02,749 --> 00:34:04,549 Speaker 3: But I think there are ways of being a dickhead 747 00:34:04,909 --> 00:34:07,829 Speaker 3: that don't involve hurting other people. You can still be 748 00:34:07,949 --> 00:34:12,629 Speaker 3: silly and still Alerican without needing to hurt people. I'd 749 00:34:12,669 --> 00:34:14,268 Speaker 3: love to see where you take this, Chloe, because I 750 00:34:14,308 --> 00:34:15,748 Speaker 3: think you're onto something and I think this is a 751 00:34:15,788 --> 00:34:18,148 Speaker 3: really plausible thing that we can. 752 00:34:18,189 --> 00:34:20,308 Speaker 1: Actually change if the right steps are taken in the 753 00:34:20,428 --> 00:34:24,148 Speaker 1: right place with young boys in particular, to start changing 754 00:34:24,189 --> 00:34:24,788 Speaker 1: the way they talk. 755 00:34:25,308 --> 00:34:26,028 Speaker 3: I think yeah. 756 00:34:26,788 --> 00:34:29,508 Speaker 11: I think a big point as well is women don't 757 00:34:29,709 --> 00:34:33,549 Speaker 11: need you to feel guilty. We're not trying to shame you. 758 00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:35,908 Speaker 11: We don't need the men to feel guilty. We need 759 00:34:35,989 --> 00:34:38,948 Speaker 11: you to just show up like. It's not about shaming men, 760 00:34:39,189 --> 00:34:41,709 Speaker 11: it's about we're asking for your help. I'm not trying 761 00:34:41,748 --> 00:34:44,709 Speaker 11: to shame you. I'm literally asking for your help to 762 00:34:44,828 --> 00:34:45,388 Speaker 11: call it out. 763 00:34:46,189 --> 00:34:47,988 Speaker 3: If we just remove the gender thing as well, it's 764 00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:59,709 Speaker 3: just people being nice to other people. Coldcency. Thank you 765 00:34:59,788 --> 00:35:01,508 Speaker 3: so much. Coming on, Chloe, Pink there if you want 766 00:35:01,509 --> 00:35:03,909 Speaker 3: to see the original video overseas, so Will and Woody 767 00:35:04,109 --> 00:35:06,629 Speaker 3: on Instagram and TikTok. We can get some men commenting 768 00:35:06,669 --> 00:35:07,268 Speaker 3: out of that video. 769 00:35:07,748 --> 00:35:08,629 Speaker 2: Get going, Fellers. 770 00:35:14,748 --> 00:35:24,149 Speaker 3: It's Will and Woodies all. 771 00:35:26,948 --> 00:35:27,068 Speaker 4: Right. 772 00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:29,308 Speaker 3: So analysis from gen Z. She's in here to try 773 00:35:29,348 --> 00:35:32,908 Speaker 3: and try and convince this that gen Z is relevant now. 774 00:35:32,948 --> 00:35:35,069 Speaker 3: The reason I was laughing just then is because you know, 775 00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:36,748 Speaker 3: I was saying just before the woods actually that the 776 00:35:36,788 --> 00:35:38,828 Speaker 3: problem with gen Z is that they never really step 777 00:35:38,908 --> 00:35:39,548 Speaker 3: out of their lane. 778 00:35:39,629 --> 00:35:42,388 Speaker 1: But cudos to you. You tried a bit of a 779 00:35:42,469 --> 00:35:44,428 Speaker 1: millennial pastime a couple of weeks ago. 780 00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:46,148 Speaker 3: I tried riding the bike. 781 00:35:46,669 --> 00:35:48,189 Speaker 2: Don't recommend guys. 782 00:35:48,149 --> 00:35:50,229 Speaker 1: Which I don't think in hindsight gen z Is can 783 00:35:50,308 --> 00:35:53,428 Speaker 1: do and they've lost the skill. The cast on your forearm, 784 00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:55,149 Speaker 1: I think is his testament to that. 785 00:35:55,908 --> 00:35:57,628 Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think you guys can't swim. 786 00:35:57,669 --> 00:35:58,308 Speaker 3: I don't think you can't. 787 00:35:58,589 --> 00:36:00,988 Speaker 7: I can swim. Excuse me, I can try. 788 00:36:01,229 --> 00:36:09,669 Speaker 3: You certainly can't rise. It's not good. Yeah, it's it's 789 00:36:09,709 --> 00:36:14,868 Speaker 3: not good. Anyway. Is the bit you've got going on 790 00:36:14,908 --> 00:36:15,628 Speaker 3: about her cast? 791 00:36:16,669 --> 00:36:16,868 Speaker 10: Check? 792 00:36:18,709 --> 00:36:20,229 Speaker 2: Anyway? Let's throw one, an't you here? 793 00:36:20,268 --> 00:36:20,508 Speaker 3: Anal? 794 00:36:20,748 --> 00:36:24,229 Speaker 1: So again, this whole bit is do you understand pop culture? 795 00:36:24,308 --> 00:36:26,669 Speaker 1: That is relevant right now? Because I think you miss 796 00:36:26,748 --> 00:36:29,268 Speaker 1: a lot. So this is a big one and I 797 00:36:29,348 --> 00:36:34,109 Speaker 1: think everyone will know this. According to mc hammer, what 798 00:36:34,348 --> 00:36:34,828 Speaker 1: time is it? 799 00:36:35,788 --> 00:36:36,549 Speaker 2: Hammer time? 800 00:36:42,669 --> 00:36:43,468 Speaker 3: I can't believe it? 801 00:36:44,989 --> 00:36:45,269 Speaker 10: Sure? 802 00:36:46,109 --> 00:36:50,069 Speaker 3: Nice, nice, nice, and I might hurt myself. 803 00:36:50,348 --> 00:36:51,948 Speaker 7: We went for a fist Pump and I have a 804 00:36:51,989 --> 00:36:58,468 Speaker 7: broken miss me. I cannot miss pump. Okay, I want 805 00:36:58,469 --> 00:37:00,308 Speaker 7: you to finish the line from this movie. I'll play 806 00:37:00,308 --> 00:37:02,548 Speaker 7: the first bit and then you've got to finish the line. 807 00:37:02,748 --> 00:37:09,149 Speaker 3: Easy chase, golong dawn catch to. 808 00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:12,629 Speaker 2: Sorry? What what was just happening? 809 00:37:12,669 --> 00:37:15,268 Speaker 3: There was he speaking? It sounds like he was throwing 810 00:37:15,268 --> 00:37:16,069 Speaker 3: a ball for someone. 811 00:37:17,069 --> 00:37:25,748 Speaker 2: No, chase, go along, damn nice catch to nice catch Cheer. 812 00:37:26,149 --> 00:37:28,788 Speaker 3: There's a guy whose name is Cheer. He's just caught 813 00:37:28,828 --> 00:37:31,029 Speaker 3: a ball. He's gone along, he's got the ball. The 814 00:37:31,069 --> 00:37:33,549 Speaker 3: guy throwing the ball goes, nice catch. 815 00:37:33,428 --> 00:37:41,508 Speaker 2: Cheer, Nice throw Steve right, nice throw Steve. 816 00:37:42,109 --> 00:37:44,308 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just about who is Steve at this point 817 00:37:44,348 --> 00:37:45,468 Speaker 3: because I don't know what the bit is like. I 818 00:37:45,509 --> 00:37:47,148 Speaker 3: don't know what movie that's from. Who is Cheer? 819 00:37:49,149 --> 00:37:50,908 Speaker 7: It is a big movie, and we've spoken about the 820 00:37:50,948 --> 00:37:51,748 Speaker 7: person who's in it. 821 00:37:51,868 --> 00:37:52,309 Speaker 9: You should. 822 00:37:52,748 --> 00:37:55,949 Speaker 2: If it's Buddy Wears, what's his name is Anderson? 823 00:37:56,109 --> 00:37:56,149 Speaker 9: No? 824 00:37:57,428 --> 00:38:04,869 Speaker 3: That that singer guy? No from I think nice throw Steve? 825 00:38:06,308 --> 00:38:07,589 Speaker 2: No my name quarterback? 826 00:38:10,229 --> 00:38:10,348 Speaker 5: Now? 827 00:38:10,629 --> 00:38:14,308 Speaker 3: What is it? That house of pain? We're back in there? No? 828 00:38:15,469 --> 00:38:19,308 Speaker 7: The response no, not my name quarterback is a big 829 00:38:19,428 --> 00:38:21,149 Speaker 7: meme at the moment on the Internet, and it's from 830 00:38:21,189 --> 00:38:27,748 Speaker 7: the movie The Sidelined for Quarterback and Mena and me, 831 00:38:28,348 --> 00:38:31,069 Speaker 7: everyone in their cars whose gen z will know not 832 00:38:31,308 --> 00:38:32,828 Speaker 7: my name Quarterback. 833 00:38:33,669 --> 00:38:35,388 Speaker 2: That's how she said it, essentially, Do you guys want 834 00:38:35,428 --> 00:38:36,588 Speaker 2: to try? It feels really good coming