WEBVTT - Cameron James and Parenthood 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:02.680 Good a. Peter Helly here, welcome to you Ain't Seen 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.160 Nothing Yet the movie podcast, where I chat to a 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:08.320 guest about a classic movie they haven't quite got around 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:14.720 to watching until now. And today's guest comedian actor podcaster 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:16.200 Cameron James. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.079 The first rule of Flake Club is you do not 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:24.240 talk about fake club. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.600 No, it was you afraid of You broke my heart. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.280 I admire your luck, mister Bond. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:50.080 James Bond, what happening right now? 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:51.839 Don't see nothing here? 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:03.560 Tom called today's guest the obvious next big Thing, and 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.040 Cameron James is certainly living up to his end of 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.479 the bargain. Known for his many collaborations with his great mate, 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.800 the very funny Becky Lucas cam has been making big 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.520 waves in the podcast world too with recent Yasny guests 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:22.520 Alexi Teleopolis with their Finding Drago and Finding Desperado series, 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.960 and some exciting news as the Boys have just received 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:29.560 development funds for a new web doco series, Finding Yeasas. 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.800 Camra is currently touring the country with his fantastic, brilliantly 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.959 funny show Electric Dreams about his early adulthood dream of 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.440 becoming a rock star. Check it out where and when, 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:45.679 you can. Cam is obviously inventive, funny, can actually play 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.880 guitar and hold a bloody tune. And I'm bloody stokes 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.800 to be hanging with him today. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:02.120 Hey, I'm Cameron James. And three favorite films are this 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.440 is spinal tap, most go up to ten? 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.800 Exactly? Does that mean it's louder? 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:08.760 Is it any louder? 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.799 Well, it's one louder, isn't it? The wedding singer? 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.360 Get out of my van ale and T shirt before 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.000 you changse the band and they break up? 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:17.720 And no Country for old men? 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:19.760 What's the most you ever lost? 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.120 Go on Tosh. But up until this week, I had 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:24.960 never seen parenthood. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.000 When you're slamming in the first and you're feeling something 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:34.280 versus diarrhea diarrhea when you heard and when you're using 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:38.799 the herd diarrhea, diarrhea, When you're slimming in the hole 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:43.480 and you're truckle full of pham, diarrhea, diarrhea. When you're 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:48.359 sitting in your chevy and you're sho feeling heavy diarrhea diarrhea. 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.560 Kevin, Honey, where'd you learn that song? 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:53.720 Last summer at camper Ah? 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:55.080 That was money well spent. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:03:01.200 Yes, nine's Ron Howard directed parenthoods see's Steve Martin at 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.239 the peak of his powers in his first film as 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.680 a dad. Yes, before he was the father of the bride, 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.600 before he was the patriarch and cheaper by the dozen, 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:14.480 he was Gil Buckman, a Midwestern working father married to 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:18.160 Karen Mary Steenbergen, reminding us that not all Karens are 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.200 in fact Karen's. Gil and Karen are trying to navigate 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:25.600 life with three kids, the emotional Kevin, the projectile vomiting Taylor, 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.680 and the head butter of walls Justin. But it's not 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.520 just about Gil and Karen's family, and it's what makes 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:36.040 Parenthood quite remarkable. The ensemble spreads four generations of Buckman's, 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.360 from grandmother Buckman down to newborns, from teenagers discovering themselves 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:46.160 to toddlers solving intricate mathematical equations. Performances are uniformly brilliant 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.600 across the board. Joan Wish wins the Oscar for Best 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:52.120 Supporting Actress as Helen, the single mum desperately trying to 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.240 hang on to her daughter Martha Plimpton before she runs 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:59.400 off with that Todd Keanu Reeves, whilst also attempting to 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:03.600 connect with their looft teenage son Gary, played by a 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:08.160 young Waquin Phoenix aka Leaf. Written by lal Gans and 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:12.880 Babelou Mandel, Paranod strikes an interesting tone, finding moments of 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:16.200 melancholy around moments of joy. The worry of being a 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.240 parent is always front of mine, from perfecting a kid's 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.200 birthday party to the pressures of kids sports. There are 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.080 threats of divorce, a discussion about abortion, black sheep lives 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:30.400 in danger, sex, sex toys, pornography, unexpected pregnancies, and of 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:35.600 course cowboy Gil Cameron James. Have you ever driven home 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:41.360 with your pants full of foam? 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:47.120 Well, look, I famously have ibs, so yes, I have. 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.000 What is a different podcast? I wasn't expected to take 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.400 a turn so quickly. I mean, some people might have 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.360 said I didn't need to play the whole diarrhea song, 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:55.680 but I think they're getting the full context. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.640 I did, you absolutely did. I also forgot. I've watched 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.279 it twice in the the last week, this movie, and 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.960 I forgot just then that they do the whole song 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:05.279 so long. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.240 It is so long, and it is I don't know. 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.080 I obviously I saw this when it came out, when 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.080 I was fourteen years old. I saw it in the 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.720 cinema and that was one of the big takeouts for us, 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.040 and then more so when it got released on VHS, 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.760 so we had access to really hone in on the 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.680 lyrics and to find the layers in Kevin's diarrhea song. 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:27.159 It's a great song. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:31.359 It's a great song. It's your amuso, yourself. You know, 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.960 you recognize it the June. You must have thought pretty 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.000 early on I'm in good hands here. 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.120 I did. I mean, that's kind of at the beginning 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.480 of the movie, isn't it. And yeah, it really does 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:45.600 set the tone, you know, I'm like, I mean quite genuine. Now, 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.640 it does set the tone for what this movie is, 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.000 which is that it's kind of a bit shaggy, and 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.799 it's a bit it's a bit messy, and it's about 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.119 it's about the mess It's about the phone. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.520 Yeah, it is about the foam and we've all had 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.479 phone in that pants and it's about how we deal 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.480 with the foam in our pants. Now, why had you 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.680 had this been a movie that had like lingered over you, 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.960 had you considered seeing it? Had you you know, most 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.200 comedians of Steve Martin fans it was just one where 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.320 you thought, jeez, I haven't seen Parenthood yet, why did 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:16.000 you choose. 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.440 Parentlem Oh, well, that was the thing that got me 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.839 over the line with picking it for this podcast. I've 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:24.640 always been a Steve Martin fan, and I think I've 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:29.240 always prioritized silly Steve Martin over more dramatic Steve Martin. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.479 And you know, for example, Three Migos is like a 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.720 go to movie for me. If I ever need to 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.560 just relax, I'll put on that. I've seen it a 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:43.520 million times. I love the jerky But there was something 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.160 about trying to think about what it was that has 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.400 kept me away from this movie. And I think it 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.839 is the fact that it seemed like a drama. It 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:56.480 seemed like more of a straight drama with you know, 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.760 like you mentioned four generations of people going through their 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.400 own trauma's intentions, and maybe I just didn't want to 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.560 see Steve Martin do that. 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:07.880 Yeah, you know, well, I think it's very it's a 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.320 fascinating tone. And we'll get to this because I want 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.440 to go through your your three favorite films. It's a 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.760 very fascinating tone. I think it's a fascinating performance by 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:20.040 Steve Martin In a movie that has I think, just 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.400 fascinating performances all the way through it. But let's come 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.520 back to that. Because you have nominated three fantastic films, 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.080 you'll be not surprised to know that this is spinal 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:30.920 tap has come up a couple of times. 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.400 Of course, Yeah, it's to go to, especially for comedy people. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.120 I I said to you before we started recording this, 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.880 I found this incredibly daunting to try and narrow down 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:43.559 a top three. 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.120 I had no idea of the horror I was unleashing. 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.320 I just how do I start a podcast. Well, let's 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.440 get provide some context of the kind of movies they like. 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.120 Let's name it three favorite. Is that difficult? It turns 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:53.680 out of this. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:57.640 It's so difficult because I think you you instinctively want 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:02.480 to pick the most important movies, all the most serious movies. 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.800 So when I first got this, you know you need 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.920 three questions, three faves. I started going to the heaviest 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.160 movies that I've ever seen. Okay, so I guess I'm 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.520 gonna have to say The Master and I'll probably have 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:19.600 to say Godfather Part two. And then I kind of went, no, 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.120 you know what, you have to really think about what 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.280 are the movies you would love to rewatch. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:24.880 Yep. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.000 That's how I'm defining it. And I decided to prioritize 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:29.160 comedies this time around. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:29.520 Yep. 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.040 So and also for the record, I want your listeners 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.600 to know I nearly picked three different Adam Sandler movies. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.840 I nearly picked Okay, the Wedding Singer, Punch, Drunk Love, 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.120 and Uncut Gems. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.760 Wow, and they're three or two of them are very 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.000 much dramatic sam and puns. Strong Love is one of 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.640 my absolute favorite films, and Cut Gems is just fuck. 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:52.600 That's a tense film. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:53.480 It's so good. 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:57.480 I don't think I felt that kind of tension in 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.480 the film that I was not expecting to feel that 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.400 kind of like besides an amazing performance by Boston's own 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:06.040 Kevin Garnett, KG is legitimately very good in that movie. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:11.040 But yeah, I wasn't expecting, you know, I didn't really know. 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.760 I deliberately kept away from where it went and what 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.880 it was, but that was genuinely the feeling I had 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:17.560 was visceral. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.440 Oh he was, Yeah, I know. I watched it. I 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.280 watched it so much in that first week that it 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.120 came out because I was I just loved it. I 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:30.080 got sucked into the world of it. I really lived 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:31.640 in it. But anyway, I didn't end up picking it, 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:32.920 so we can't talk about it. 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:37.960 We can't fALS Yeah, I love is also amazing. So 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:39.840 why did Wedding Singer? 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.600 The Wedding Singer became my Sandler pick for this because 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.880 I much like Three Amigos. I'll often put it on 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.280 if I just need something comfort, watching something on in 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.920 the background, if I'm doing work or doing washing up 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.920 or cooking or whatever. I love it. I think it 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:02.000 is so sweet, it's so beautiful, it's so funny. I 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:06.040 love seeing Adam Sandlers sing it kind of honestly, when 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.960 I watched that movie, It's the dream project that I 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.960 would make if I was a famous actor. You know, 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.600 where you get to be the funny guy, but you 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.480 also get to sing and play guitar in a band, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.439 and then you also get to do the sweet stuff 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.000 and get the girl at the end of the day, you. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.200 Get a history. Barry mud Yes, I mean because you 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.040 I mentioned it in the intro. But you are currently 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.320 touring Electric Dreams, which is about you're you know, you 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:33.679 wanted to be, you know, a rock star. Rockstar. So 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.679 I can see how this related to absolutely. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.520 I mean he gets to sing classic eighties tracks in 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:43.360 that movie and then some original comedy songs as well. Truly, 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.640 it's like the Dream Project. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.640 Did you see his down out specially imagine if you, oh, yeah, 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.120 how good? I think either directed or just Paul Thomas 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:53.360 Anderson had eyes on it. 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.800 And I think he filmed some of it, Yeah, and 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.439 then maybe helped with the edit or something. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.520 Yeah, if you haven't seen, or if you if you're 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.960 somebody who has maybe given up on Adam Sandler for 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:03.880 whatever reason. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.319 That most of you probably you know it goes by 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:06.600 the day. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:09.959 I urge you not to give up on Adam Sandler. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.720 But I but that special is one of the best 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.440 put together specially and one of the funniest, with a 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.400 sweet little kicker at the end. Yeah. So he basically 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.720 performs It's It's taken from lots of different performances, from 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:27.000 club gigs to arenas. But the editing is like you're 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.000 not missing a beat, Like it's not jarring at all. 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.000 It's so sharp. Sometimes it even cuts in the middle 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.480 of a song or a bit. You know, it'll cut 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:40.079 between the Carolines, comedy club in New York to an 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:40.880 arena in. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.040 You know, Madison Square, Madison. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:46.160 Square Garden, and it's amazing, it's so funny. Again, I've 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.320 watched that a lot as well, and that's and maybe 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.040 we're kind of tapping into something a little bit here, 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.920 because I think the older I get, the more my 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:59.960 comedy taste moves away from cynicism and moves towards sweetness. 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.640 And Sandler is the embodiment of that. His early comedy 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:08.640 is so snarky and annoying, and it's just about how 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.920 much he hates adults, you know, authority figures. And then 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.560 now I'm watching Adam Sandler become a guy who's happy 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.520 to sing a song about how much he loves Chris 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:22.240 Farley or you know, he's making films about families and 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.400 his family and his kids. And so I think, yeah, 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:30.120 maybe the Sandler pick and this movie that we're talking 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.440 about today is a bit of an embodiment of me 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.640 getting older and just enjoying sweetness and niceness a little 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:37.400 bit more than I used to. 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:42.520 Yeah, yeah, that's I agree. I mean I've always leant 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:46.080 towards things that aren't particularly you know, even in my 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.679 own personal life I'm not a confrontational person, you know, 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.160 and I would rather watch something that makes me happy. 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.800 Although were that said, I mean, yeah, actually, with that said, 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.920 there's no dictast of cinema like Underground is a movie. 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.560 There's like a Serbian movie called Underground, which is very 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.080 close to being in my top four, and there's nothing 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.240 particularly cheery about that. I love the Coen Brothers and 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.760 we got No Country in a second. But yeah, but 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.559 I do that those comfort movies for me, like planes, 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.839 trains and automobiles for me, Oh yeah, is just one 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:22.679 of the all time great joys, like listening to you 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.760 what the wedding singer gives you, Planes trains gives them. 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:29.280 Yeah, yeah, that's a great tone too. I think that's something. 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.880 I love that movie, and you're right, it's the It 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:36.160 has that mix of hard laughs, big jokes, big comedy moments, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.920 but then it's all capped off with sweetness at the end, 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:40.720 and you leave feeling good. 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:42.600 You leave feeling good. I'm not sure how you left 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:46.360 the cinema when you saw No Country for Old Man. Hopefully, 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.800 hopefully game you didn't leave feeling good. Hopefully you didn't 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:54.520 have a swagger a springing your step No what are 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:55.199 the amazing. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.800 No Country is? You know, this is a really hard 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.559 one to pick because I wanted the Collens on my list, 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:06.040 and they have every movie there is a different type 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.600 of movie, you know, and I love them all, and 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.520 I can never quite pick which one's my favorite. Some 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:15.200 weeks it's Lebowski, some weeks it's Fargo. It was Barton 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:15.839 Fink for. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.080 A long time, but never Lady Kills. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:19.320 It's never. 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:26.280 Never been Lady Killers. Unfortunately, that's weirdly, that's the one 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:27.600 I haven't rewatched much. 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.680 Comen Brothers and Tom Hanks. How could they fuck this up? 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:37.320 I know? But No Country, I think it's I love 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.240 it because I love the West. I'm a sucker for 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.920 a Western. I'm a sucker for that whole esthetic too, 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:48.600 you know, like I could, I could watch any movie 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.640 that's shot in Texas. I for some reason, I'm just 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:53.880 I can't take my eyes off the screen. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:55.560 I agree. I mean, used to be old Hollywood, used 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:57.640 to make the big westerns, you know, said John Wayne 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.280 out in the West. But I love what they've done 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.640 more recent where there's been modern stories told. Because the 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.080 landscape is basically the same and you have the cowboys 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.800 living there still. I mean, you know, they popular of Yellowstone. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.240 You know I love Yellowstone. I'm watching Yellowstone at the moment. 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:13.080 It's amazing. 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:14.720 I got so many people in the Yellowstone. But I 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.360 stopped the episode eight and people are coming up to 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.160 me going, thanks for getting into the yellow if you 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.080 finished series four, and no, I'm still in the eight 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:25.000 episode eight. So but another good one recently in a 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:26.560 few years ago was Helen high Water. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:27.760 I nearly picked that. 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:29.120 That is such a good film. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.560 I love it. I love it. That's a that's a go. 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:33.920 That's I've watched that a lot too, because. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.120 And that's a Yellowstone connection, isn't it. I think, same 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:37.520 guy Sheridan. 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.480 But I love that movie, you know, because they make 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.760 the banks the bad guys. That's the thing about these 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:46.480 new modern westerns is there's a great commentary about the 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.560 government or the bank system more and it's all you know, 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.160 it makes you feel smart. When you watch it, you 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.720 kind of go, yeah, yeah, America is crazy. 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:56.760 Thank god we don't live there. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.800 Ah yeah, but no. Country is just full of amazing 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:04.280 performances and offbeat performances. It's funny in its own way, 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.600 even though it's not laugh out loud, funny. You know, 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:12.960 Javier by DEM's hair is funny. Woody Harrelson gets some 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.520 great moments in there. I think, does Stephen Root pop 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:18.880 up in that? I think Stephen he does. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.000 He pops up in every film, but he's the best 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.960 best actor. I think he's one of those. I think 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:26.840 there's a podcast. I haven't actually listened to it, but 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.200 there's a podcast about the actors who you kind of 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:30.920 like you kind of know their name, if you, if you, 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.680 if you, you know, like I I would have to 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:37.480 remember this, it's Stephen Stephen Rut And there's a like 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.320 he'd be right up there with actors who his name 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:41.760 might be on the tip of your tongue. 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.280 Yeah, yeah, his name is always on the tip of 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:46.960 my tongue. I love Stephen Ruth. 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:47.760 Yeah, but yeah. 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:52.280 It's full of these weird, little offbeat character choices, but 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:54.920 it's all anchored in reality. I think it's a really 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.240 it's like a very special film. No Country for All Men. 0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:59.880 And the tension you feel, like when he goes into 0:16:59.920 --> 0:17:02.520 the general story at the start and the old man 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.520 he's flipping the coin. Yes, you know it's not going 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:06.000 to be good. 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.240 I also think that Cohen's do such a good job 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:13.760 with making a fictional story feel real by having coincidences 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:18.000 happen and the fact that the main action, you know, 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.440 like you know, the main guy dies, we don't even 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.639 see it. It happens off screen, and then someone discovers 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.640 his body later. And they do similar things in Fargo 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.240 where it's sort of it makes it feel like a 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.200 true story that's been eted for the screen. 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.320 The first screen titler is based on the true story. 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:35.359 I mean, that's one way of doing it. 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.080 I think it's the best choice they ever made. 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.639 It is so incredible because, like, yeah, why doesn't need 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.359 to be It's part of the movie. You're watching a movie. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:45.439 They can do whatever they like. 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:47.080 It's amazing. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.920 Let's get onto it now. The movie you are here 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:56.120 to talk about nine to eighty nine's Parenthood, starring I've 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.320 Got Steve Martin, Diane Wheez, County Reeves, Young Mac and 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.080 Phoenix direct Ron Howard. 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:05.480 Did you like it, Pete? I loved this movie. 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:10.920 Yes, I'm really I'm always up for people not liking it. 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.119 Sometimes I'm more invested in others. But I am so 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.240 glad you love this film. 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.439 I loved this movie as I said, I watch it 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.480 twice this week, once for this and once for fun. 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.159 Oh wow, And I watched it twice as well, and 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.200 I kind of almost a little bit the same, just 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.199 going wow, this is like I hadn't seen it for 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.320 a while. Yeah, So tell me when you saw it 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.320 when you were fourteen at the cinema and did you. 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.840 I mean, it's not really aimed at teenage boys. 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.520 There are so many quotable things in this movie, like 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.080 the diarrhea song. Obviously. Yeah, I remember saying, you know, 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:47.399 quoting Cowboy Dan is coming, Cowboy Dan is coming with 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:51.399 my mates. And there are so many things. Every scene 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.560 has a gag at the end of it, you know, 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.760 like this, you know your grandmother's a Jeanieus. Why is 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.480 she sitting in the neighbors car? Like this. There's so 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.080 many good things and we'll kind of go through it. 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:06.480 We'll play some scenes that talk about but like there's 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.480 a start at the start like that. It's just a 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.920 very interesting way to start a movie with the flash 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.800 I mean, movies, you know, quite often start with a flashback. 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:17.760 But I thought this was in nine to eighty nine, 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.679 quite an interesting movie. You're at the baseball park with 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:22.880 the young guy. You're trying to work out already, because 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:24.320 you know Steve Martin's in it. You're trying to work 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.000 out is this a flashback? Oh this is maybe it's 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.679 Steve Martin. Yeah, but that works really well. 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.639 Well that that's what got me hooked in, you know, 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.480 because I thought it was going to be quite saccering 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:38.240 a little, you know, I mean, okay, the two riders 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.240 of this lowel Gans and Bubbaloo Mandel, who I'm a 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:42.879 bit obsessed with both of their names. 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.560 You might be obsessed with Bubbaloo Bubbaaloo, but they're great writers. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.840 And they wrote City Slickers as well, which is another 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.840 great comedy, and it's very in their tone. This kind 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.880 of opening where it's it's sort of teeters on being 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:02.360 very saccaring and possibly too too sappy, but then it's 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:05.240 immediately undercut by a very clever meta joke, you know, 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.879 where the little kid sort of says to the usher, 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.280 this is He basically says, yeah, we're I'm this is 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:14.560 a flashback. This is a memory. You're an amalgam mover 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.480 many different ushers that had to sit with me. I mean, 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:20.879 that's that's when I got hooked in, just that moment 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:24.040 of undercutting it all and having having the usher go yeah, agreat, 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.359 you're having an existential crisis. I'm a freaking amalgam here. 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:31.800 It's so great. And the apparently if you watch a 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.520 baseball game, there's a guy who's like limping around and 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.639 they shot they shot so many takes. I think they 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.080