1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud your 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: the Order Kerni Whalbury and a waddery woman. And before 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country, 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: and the storytelling of you to make a difference for 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: today and lasting impact for tomorrow. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money. 12 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's I'm the Money the Podcast 13 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 4: Millennials who want financial freedom. Welcome back to another shot 14 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 4: back Money Diary Monday, where we get to chat to 15 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: one of our beautiful community members to learn all about 16 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 4: them and their money and their story and all of 17 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 4: the other fun bits and pieces in between. Victoria, I 18 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 4: have a little bit of an international one feature. 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: So when International Money diarest, I love this. 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: Well, now she's here, but let me tell you all 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 4: about it. Let's go, she said, I migrated to Australia 22 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 4: for the first time in twenty twelve from Spain. My 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 4: family did not believe in me. I learned English and 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 4: I took on a fifty thousand dollar loan to do 25 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 4: the master's degree of my dreams in psychology. I finally 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 4: got the English score needed to get in, having failed 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: that English test seven times. 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what a hustler. 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: I set about paying for the loan, working night shifts 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: in disability care while studying. I am about to become 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 4: a clinical psychologist and a brand new Australian citizen and 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: have the goal salary of my dreams. 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what a queen. Imagine doing something seven times. 34 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: If that's not the definition of lockdown and just getting 35 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: back up and trying again, I don't know what it is. 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: I know. 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: I'm so excited to hear all from our money diarist today. 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining us, Thank. 39 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 5: You for having me. 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. I am so excited that you 41 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: are here. Can we just dive straight in? I want 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: to know talk to us. Can you tell us a 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: little bit about your money story. 44 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 5: I grew up in a family of five in Barcelona, 46 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: so I have two sisters and my parents came from 47 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 5: quite humble backgrounds, so money was tight in the family 48 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 5: growing up, but we always had food and a place 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 5: to live at I feel like my parents were really 50 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 5: good budgeting, so I didn't really see that much struggles 51 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 5: with their finances, but I felt a bit restricted, like 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 5: doing extra things like extra curricular activities or buying things 53 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 5: when it wasn't my birthday. But I feel very grateful 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 5: that they were able to budget and provide all the 55 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 5: basics and necessaries that I needed. 56 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: Love or I want to know what do you do 57 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: for work now? And how much money do you earn 58 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: at the moment. 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 5: I'm a general psychologist and I aarn between eighty and 60 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 5: ninety thousand. 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: Very cool, And how long have you been earning that? 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: Not long? 63 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 5: I believe it has been over a year now. 64 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: That's so exciting. And you said in your email that 65 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 4: that's a goal or your dream salary. That must have 66 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 4: been so exciting for you to have worked so hard 67 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 4: and taken that test so many times and done all 68 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: of your study to finally hit that. What was that 69 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 4: moment like when you got the job offer or the 70 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: notice that you were going to hit the salary that 71 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: you had been dreaming of Yeah, well. 72 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 5: My goal salary is a hundred thousand, so at the 73 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 5: end of this year I will become a clinical psychologist 74 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 5: and then they'll put me between aundred and one hundred 75 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 5: and ten. And yes, that's going to be a very 76 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 5: special moment. 77 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so excited for you. Congratulation, that's so exciting. 78 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. All right, I want to know. Obviously 79 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: that was a big money goal, but what is currently 80 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: your big money goal? 81 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 5: I have a few, So when I think of money goals, 82 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 5: I imagine myself having both the property in Barcelona and 83 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 5: also a house an investment house in Brisbane before the Olympics, 84 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 5: and being able to have the means to spend ten 85 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 5: months in Australia, working in two months in Spain every 86 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 5: year and living comfortably. 87 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: Love or I want to know next, do you have 88 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: any investments? If so, what are they At the moment? 89 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 5: I think my biggest investment is the master's I did, 90 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 5: which was my education that got me to where I 91 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 5: am and I'm still paying for it a bit. And 92 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 5: another investments that I have I have a long term 93 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 5: deposits account, savings account and the superannuation as well. 94 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 4: Superanuation is a big one. Yeah, filling people. It's their 95 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 4: first investment. 96 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: It is their first investment. How has your super been going? 97 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: Have you been tracking along nicely or is that brand 98 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: new with your brain a new job. 99 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 5: Well, I know I haven't been tracking on it much 100 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 5: until I became more educated listening to the podcast, and 101 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 5: then I have been keeping an eye making sure I 102 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 5: get paid on the superanoation on time and seeing how 103 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 5: that grows. 104 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 4: Oh good, keeping an eye on it is so important 105 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: because as much as it's meant to be always looked after, 106 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 4: as we know from the show, sometimes that's not always 107 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 4: the case. Good that you're keeping an eye on it. 108 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: Next question I've got for you is do you have 109 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: any debts? 110 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 5: I do? I have some money that I had. I 111 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 5: have to still pay for my master's loan. So I 112 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 5: took on a fifty thousand dollars loan and at the moment, 113 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 5: I believe it's under sixteen thousand dollars. 114 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 4: How did that work you? Were you a citizen when 115 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 4: you started your master's or were you doing it as 116 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: an international student. 117 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 5: That's a good question. So I had to ask for 118 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 5: a loan in Spain because they want to give it 119 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 5: to me, so money had to co sign. 120 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Oh my gosh, how stressful. 121 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 5: Yes, and she thought because in the Spain and masters 122 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 5: can be like five thousand euros. 123 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 4: So she really. 124 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 5: Yes, she thought I was completely crazy taking on that 125 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 5: much money. 126 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: Yes, I want fifty thousand dollars. And she's like, what 127 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 4: for it? 128 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: Would you want that? Especially, as she said before, she 129 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: was really good at budgeting and saving and you know, 130 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: being good with her money. She would have been like, 131 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: oh my gosh. 132 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, she didn't believe that after you do that course 133 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 5: you get a good salary, because in the Spain it's 134 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 5: hard to find jobs even though you are very well trained. 135 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 5: And so she made me take the loan in two 136 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 5: different parts, one for the first year and the seconde 137 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 5: for the second year, being very cautious and it took 138 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 5: a lot of effort to get her to call sign. 139 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: Oh, but you did it, and I'm sure she's very 140 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: proud of you. 141 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 5: Now. Yes, yeah, I have proved her that it was useful. 142 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 5: So yes, she's very happy. 143 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: Oh I love it all right. Next question I've got 144 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: for you is do you use Shop Back? If so, 145 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: what are you buying. 146 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 5: I've only used it one and I bought the tickets 147 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 5: to see you guys. 148 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: No, did you actually up? 149 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: I love the EU shot back for she's on the 150 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: money event like that is that is artest way to 151 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: do it. That is, she's on the money through and through. 152 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely it is all right. My next question, my friend, 153 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: is what's your best money habit? Do you think? I 154 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: think the. 155 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 5: Best money habit is the long term the posit I have. 156 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 5: The savings I have is when I pen my student 157 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 5: loan the first of each month, I also pay for 158 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 5: those savings, so it's like a bill. It's a car 159 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: direct transfer. So I need to make sure I have 160 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 5: the money every month and I take it as a bill, 161 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 5: so I always have that money ready and it just 162 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: accumulates on the savings. 163 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: Love. I feel like that's really smart. Next question I 164 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: have though, what's your worst money habit? 165 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I have money, but my partner says that 166 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 5: I buy tickets for the Price Home Lottery, So I 167 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 5: have a membership. 168 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: You have a membership with it? 169 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have the VP membership. So every month I 170 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 5: pad like sixty dollars I think for you, and I 171 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 5: get tickets. 172 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 4: And charity thing, isn't it? 173 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 174 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, consider it a charitable contribution, which I think is 175 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: not the West. 176 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I say to him. 177 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I love so hard when they say 178 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: that their money habit is that, because obviously it's like 179 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: not that detrimental, but it's also just like so in 180 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: opposite to what we do. But who are way to 181 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: judge your money values. If you know what you're doing 182 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: and you're excited about it, I want you to spend 183 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: your money on that, as long as it's in an 184 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: educated way, right. Yeah. 185 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 5: I think this comes from my partents when they were 186 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 5: working at the same company and the company went bankrupt. 187 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 5: So then they want a little bit of a local 188 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 5: lottery and they could start their own news agency business. 189 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: Did they really? 190 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 5: You always have the hole? 191 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: Yes, what are the chances that they won, like a local? 192 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 4: How much did they win? Was it a I mean 193 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 4: for them to be at a stuf business, I would 194 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: assume they want a little bit, right. 195 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, what my mom never told me. She really Yeah, 196 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 5: she doesn't give exact numbers, but yeah, this gives me 197 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 5: hope that people win this. 198 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 199 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: I can't believe you know someone who's done that. I 200 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: was about to say to you, Oh my gosh, if 201 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 2: you win, please call us, because we've never met someone 202 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: who's won the Home Lottery. So what we're calling out 203 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: now is, if you want the Home Lottery, call me. 204 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: I want your money to die. Yeah. Okay, Oh my gosh, 205 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: how good? All right? So really quick question before we 206 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: go to a quick break is what grade would you 207 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: give yourself if we forced you to give yourself a 208 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: money grade? 209 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 5: I feel maybe B minus, B minus you reckon? I 210 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 5: think I could be investing more. I feel like I 211 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 5: make the most of the morney I get, but I 212 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 5: could be a bit better. 213 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: What would it take to be better in your world? 214 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 5: Maybe reducing my lottery membership and sometimes I like to 215 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 5: buy things for people, budgeting on that well, or when 216 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 5: I see something that I like sometimes I also by it. 217 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: So cutting down on those things. 218 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 2: A bit smart? Smart? All right, We have a few questions, 219 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: but we'll hold off on them until we're back from 220 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: this really quick break. 221 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 4: All right, money, direst, I want to ask you about 222 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: English being your second language, which you can't even really tell, 223 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 4: like your English is incredibly good, but to fail in 224 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: English tests seven times, and obviously you needed to pass 225 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 4: that test to be able to complete your degree, which 226 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: was really important to you. I being honest, if I 227 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: failed something seven times, I don't know that I could 228 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 4: have the will power to try it again. How did 229 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: you motivate yourself? Because I think languages are so hard, 230 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 4: and English particularly is a language that just makes no sense, 231 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 4: Like there are so many little nuances and things that 232 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 4: I think for people, even for people who do grow 233 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 4: up speaking as their first language, it's really freaking hard. 234 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 4: And then someone coming in and learning it as an adult, 235 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 4: I can imagine that would be so challenging. How did 236 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 4: you manage to go, oh, my gosh, I failed again, 237 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 4: Like you would have studied really hard and thought you'd 238 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 4: done the best that you could, and then to find 239 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 4: out you failed and go, Okay, well guess I'm just 240 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: going to try again. Especially when your mom was like, oh, 241 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: maybe it's not worth it. How did you manage to 242 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 4: do that? 243 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 5: I feel like my mom saying this, it gave me 244 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 5: more motivation to try again. So I look for when 245 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 5: I fell six times, I look for a really good 246 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 5: English school, and I did a preparation again for the exam. 247 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 5: And I remember having a child with my mom and 248 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 5: my mom said, open your eyes and you might not 249 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 5: be able to go on Australian University. You're from Spain, 250 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 5: and that gave me the strength to say, yes, I 251 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 5: can do this. And I said to myself, I tried 252 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 5: just one more time, and that time I got it. 253 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Oh yes. 254 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: Queen, try I try and try again. It obviously pays off. 255 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: I love that so much. I just I agree with you, Jess. 256 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: I don't think I would have the tenacity to keep 257 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: going on. I would love to think I would, right, 258 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: like in a perfect world that's what we all do, 259 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: but that would wear me down like three times, and 260 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: I think I'd be like, you know what, this maybe 261 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: isn't for me. But I'm so proud of you, even 262 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: though I do not have the deservingness to be proud 263 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: of you. I just feel like I want to hug 264 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 2: you and be like, yes, we did it. We're so 265 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 2: lucky to have you. 266 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: So did you have to pass that test before you 267 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: started your masters or was it like at a midway 268 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: point before. 269 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 5: So it's a test that you need to get certain 270 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 5: scored in breathing, listening, speaking, and I wasn't getting that 271 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 5: score in writing over and over. 272 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 4: Writing is hard. Yeah, the grammar and stuff, and I've yeah, 273 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 4: I totally yet why that is really challenging. How did 274 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: you find studying a full master's degree in a language 275 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 4: that's not your own, because that's crazy again, Like I 276 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: I couldn't even imagine doing a master's degree, let alone. 277 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 4: If you said to me, can you take it in Spanish, 278 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: I'd be like, poor quere Like, I mean that was 279 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: good Spanish though, good work for one word. I know. 280 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 5: It was definitely challenging and quite draining putting all the 281 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 5: mental effort. But at the same time, being in psychology 282 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 5: and having a lot of placement, I always thought that 283 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 5: emotions are universal, so there was all of this part 284 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 5: that had nothing to do with the language, and it 285 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 5: was more about connecting with a person. And with all 286 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 5: the assessments, I had teachers who could help me as 287 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 5: well review my assessments and give me advice, so they 288 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 5: were very welcoming. There were a couple of more international 289 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 5: students as well. 290 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Australia has a really high level of international student 291 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 4: studying here, which is awesome. Did your university have provisions 292 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 4: in place to assist you, like, did you have resources 293 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 4: that were available to help with like translation or to 294 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 4: help with like any of those little things that might 295 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 4: come up that you wouldn't be prepared for while you 296 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 4: were studying. 297 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe they had services to help with the 298 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 5: writing and taking the assessments. At that time, I had 299 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 5: been in Australia for a few years, so I didn't 300 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 5: use them that much, but they did have a lot 301 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 5: of help. 302 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: You said before, the goal or your end goal was 303 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 4: to spend you know, ten months here and two months 304 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 4: back home, which would be amazing. That sounds like an 305 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 4: absolute dream if you did that. Would you take those 306 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: two months as a holiday or would you want to 307 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: be working over there as a psychologist at the same time. 308 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good question. I haven't figured out yet, 309 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 5: but I think being able to work there it would 310 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 5: be great. It's always an open door if I want 311 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 5: to stay any longer, or if I want to see 312 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 5: clients for a month and then take a month off. 313 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, incredible. How does your mom feel now now that 314 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 4: you've completed your degree? She was a little bit dubious 315 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 4: at the start, and then obviously you've done it, You've 316 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 4: now got a job. Is she I mean, I have 317 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: no doubt that she would be really proud of you. 318 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: But does she now kind of go, oh my gosh, 319 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: you were right. 320 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 5: Yes, I think she's very proud, and I don't think 321 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 5: her comments before were coming from a bad place. She 322 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,479 Speaker 5: was more like trying to protect me and. 323 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: She doesn't want me to struggle. 324 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I feel like now she yeah, I have 325 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 5: proven her that I could do it, and she feels 326 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 5: quite quite proud and talks about me with the friends 327 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 5: and everything. So yeah, I think she, Oh, I happy 328 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 5: so much. 329 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 4: How about your siblings, any of your siblings over here 330 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: as well or they all still back home. 331 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 5: They are back home. They are my older sister, so 332 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 5: I'm also like the baby of the family who moved here. 333 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 5: But yeah, I like them to visit me more. But 334 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 5: a ticket to Australia, just a flying ticket, is like 335 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 5: a whole month, the salary of a month in Spain, 336 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 5: so it's harsh. 337 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 338 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: How is a flight from here to Spain? I feel 339 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 4: like that's quite a big trip to make as well. 340 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's actually the Antipote. I think it's the name, 341 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 5: like the opposite part of the war. Yes, yeah, so 342 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 5: there's two flights from here to Barcelona. There's a fourteen 343 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 5: hour flight and then a six or seven hour flight, 344 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 5: so around like twenty twenty one hours. 345 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a huge so much. 346 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: That's massive because you don't just get to go direct right, Like, 347 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: that's so stressful. How often do you get to go 348 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: home at the moment. 349 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 5: I've been quite lucky and prioritizing going there once a year, 350 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 5: so I've been there a fair bit. 351 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: Were you able to travel over COVID as well, or 352 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 4: was it a couple of years during that period where 353 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 4: you couldn't. 354 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 5: No, I went luckily in February twenty twenty before everything started, 355 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 5: and then as soon as they opened in Christmas last year. 356 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: I went, yeah, how do you find I? Sorry, I 357 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: have a lot of questions because it's something I've like. 358 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: I love the idea of picking up my life and 359 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 4: moving to another country, but I am very risk adverse 360 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 4: just as an individual. It's something that I would find 361 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 4: really hard. How did you go setting up a support 362 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: network in some way that you had never been before? 363 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, I just when I landed here in Brisbane, 364 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 5: I moved into a shared house, so I made a 365 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 5: lot of international friends there, and I also was very 366 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 5: lucky got my first job when I could barely speak 367 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 5: English in a retail store in my second week here, 368 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 5: and I was working with these wonderful girls who were 369 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 5: like very friendly, and they were my first friends here 370 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 5: in Australia, and I felt really happy and supported to 371 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 5: have a group of people here and a group of 372 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 5: people in Spain as well. 373 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. Are you still friends with those girls that you 374 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: lived with when you very first got. 375 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 5: Yeah we talk sometimes so. Last year, for example, some 376 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 5: of them came to my bad h and you know, 377 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 5: we met a long time ago. But yeah, they always 378 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 5: have a very special place in my heart. 379 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, you are the sweetest 380 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: human ever. But unfortunately, Jess, I think that's all we 381 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 2: have time for today. We've got to let you go, 382 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: but we'll chat more later. Yeah, yeah, okay, Oh my gosh. 383 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: Thank you for being on the show. 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