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Speaker 1: Get a.

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Speaker 2: I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional oversharer.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe

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Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face

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Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest

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Speaker 2: about their highs as.

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Speaker 1: Well as they're lows, all in a bid to inspire

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Speaker 1: us to fearlessly fail. Hello, Welcome to the pod.

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Speaker 2: Today we have a great guest, Pete Debler aka intern

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Speaker 2: Pete from the iconic Kyle and Jackie Oh Show.

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Speaker 1: Now. Pete is very, very funny. He's a prank star.

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Speaker 2: He's also often the victim of pranks, and in this

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Speaker 2: episode we get a real taste of behind the scenes

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Speaker 2: of what goes on on a red carpet his preparation

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Speaker 2: for interviewing massive A grade celebrities.

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Speaker 1: Tells us his veins, which I loved hearing.

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Speaker 2: And can I just say, Pete, you are the first

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Speaker 2: guests to have ever bought me on a PRESI that

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Speaker 2: we open mid show, so enjoy this chat.

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Speaker 1: Pete is lovely, lovable and.

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Speaker 2: Such a laugh Pete Deppler, Hi, I'm here, okay, Intern Pete,

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Speaker 2: do you know you've been in my phone as intern Pete,

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Speaker 2: I would say for about seven years.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, now, Joe, what when you sent

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Speaker 1: me your number on Instagram? I think, like yesterday we've

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Speaker 1: been chatting over there and I was like, oh, I know,

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Speaker 1: I thought I had your number safe that I did.

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Speaker 1: It did pop up. But I think the reason why

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Speaker 1: we have swap numbers in the past is because of

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Speaker 1: mutual friends Oscar Gordon, who I lived with. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think he used to work on the car chat Y

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Speaker 1: Ocean and he slept in one morning we could get

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Speaker 1: a hold of him. We knew it was on our situations.

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Speaker 1: We were trying to track you down and we somehow

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Speaker 1: got your number and then we're calling you. We're like

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Speaker 1: bang on, bang on Oscar's door for us, all that

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Speaker 1: sort of stuff. So that's how that came back. But

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Speaker 1: then we've spoken since. So how funny I have I.

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Speaker 2: Have been insta stalking you for quite a while though,

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Speaker 2: because when I live in Los Angeles, my algorithm clicks

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Speaker 2: to LA time and you started coming up all the

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Speaker 2: time like this iHeart event from like you're doing red

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Speaker 2: carpets and stuff. The whole time I was in LA

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Speaker 2: I was like trying to get you on the pod,

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Speaker 2: but you'd come in and fly the f straight out. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm in and out. So a lot of what

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Speaker 1: I do that I don't know. I'm My work trips

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Speaker 1: are very much about like, Okay, go over there, get

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Speaker 1: the job done, and get your backside back here asap

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Speaker 1: so you can get back on the air with Kyla Jack.

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Speaker 2: So, oh my goodness, you do not stop. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: you've mentioned Carl and Jack. You are such an incredible

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Speaker 2: fixture of such an iconic I want to say ensemble now,

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Speaker 2: because there's like a bit of a gang. There's a

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Speaker 2: bit I feel like there's a bit of a like

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Speaker 2: you look forward tier intern peak kind of moments.

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Speaker 1: And but I want to go back to little little Pete. Yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: Can I give you a present first though, because I

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Speaker 1: thought your present was we need it of the podcast

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Speaker 1: because I know you're into green juices and you're healthy

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Speaker 1: and stuff. So I was like racing it last night.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I've got to get you something, and

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Speaker 1: I did forget so I had to go something out

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Speaker 1: of the work for you. So I brought us both

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Speaker 1: a VB and you did not. Are you a drinker?

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Speaker 1: Are you a drinker. I know it's early in the

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Speaker 1: day here in Sydney, but.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're so funny. Oh my goodness, oh

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Speaker 2: my god. Honestly you have that because and everyone knows

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Speaker 2: it's in the pod. I'm freezing my embryos, so I

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Speaker 2: can't drink right now, but you have to, And can

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Speaker 2: I say, still a brilliant pressie.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I caught it. I'm glad I caught a

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Speaker 1: cap charge a little pick because I'm a Victorian as well,

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Speaker 1: am I?

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Speaker 2: So this is what I want to know. PS, this

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Speaker 2: is hands down the calls. I've never been given a

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Speaker 2: present on the pod. What do you mean never ever?

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Speaker 1: Well, the bar starts here and when I come on

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Speaker 1: again in twelve months time, I want to see if

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Speaker 1: this is escalated from a one VB can to at

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Speaker 1: least a slab, to at least a kick to someone

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Speaker 2: I have to do an Americana version so we can

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Speaker 2: get some like it's like George Clooney is to kill

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Speaker 1: One let's get an alcohol deal on this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Okay, so we're both Victorian, but your is your

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Speaker 2: family is your dairy farmer, dairy farmers?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So dairy farmers from a little town called Simpson,

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Speaker 1: and dad born and bread in Simpson, both brought their

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Speaker 1: first farm down there, a little country down in the

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Speaker 1: Twelve Apostles. Yeah, I know, the Twelve Apostles. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: in between some more becoming iconic, so that that whole

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Speaker 1: Twelve Apostles is almost branching out into a food trail

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Speaker 2: little road trip to Twelve Apostles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're allowed to. Three doors down is the chocolate factory,

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Speaker 1: and then two doors down is the cheese factory, and

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Speaker 1: then around the corners the winery, and then the strawberry farm,

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Speaker 1: and then the fish farm, and then the cider factory

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Speaker 1: thing that's going on, well, this kind of tracks. I

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Speaker 1: was so excited to learn that you actually trained as

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Speaker 1: a chef? I did? How did it? Every day? You

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Speaker 1: found that because there's nothing I learned about me being

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Speaker 2: Actually fits because I think with chef being a chef

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Speaker 2: go go, always on a deadline. I feel like you've

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Speaker 2: kind of just made that an auditory exerce.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know a few people in radio who used

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Speaker 1: to be chefs as well. There is I can't quite

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Speaker 1: pinpoint it, but I do describe working on the Breaks

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Speaker 1: a restaurant. So totally you're prepared, you're ready to go,

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Speaker 1: You've got you couldn't be anymore ready, but something could

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Speaker 2: we jump from chefing to the Whole Hog?

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Speaker 1: Wow, you've done ab. I really thought that was cleaned

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Speaker 1: I was doing network Breakfast around Victoria, part of the

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Speaker 1: AX Radio network. Love them. They gave me my first

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Speaker 1: and they're like, what are we going to call it?

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Speaker 1: And it was a time triple and had the Shebang

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Speaker 1: There's there's only one thing left. And someone just went,

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Speaker 1: let's call it the Whole Hog. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means, but sure, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to do something to do with pigs on

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Speaker 1: So it was kind of that way of describing the

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Speaker 2: So so you did do time, like doing your like

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Speaker 1: Best radio years of my life not I mean at

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Speaker 1: and do regional radio. You'll have the time of you.

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Speaker 1: You'll learn everything. You'll learn how to make things, cut things,

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Speaker 1: host things. You'll do eighty seven thousand Halvy Norman OB's

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Speaker 2: Oh how And I've heard other people talk about like

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Speaker 2: I think you can skip the cutting the teeth phase,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a big believer of it, and I believe

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Speaker 1: It's like similarity to a chef. As an apprentice chef,

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so talk to me about the moment you

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Speaker 2: I don't want to use the word audition, but you

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Speaker 2: were going for the job at Carlin Jack.

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Speaker 1: I for me growing up, radio was a part of

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Speaker 1: I remember he used to listen to them growing up.

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Speaker 1: We never got Hot thirty Countdown in regional, but we

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Speaker 1: got like the Hot Hits Take forty Australia. I think

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Speaker 1: was hosted by Barry Biss all the time. But I

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Speaker 1: just remember hearing this Kyle and Jackie show. It was

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Speaker 1: just wild. It was crazy. It was nothing was ever

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Speaker 1: And when I say big stars, like I was blown

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Speaker 1: away with like Aid Nicodemu from Home and Away. I

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Speaker 2: And also that like there they're so honest, so I

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Speaker 2: you're going to just be like.

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Speaker 1: Oh this feels like my home. Yeah yeah, Auditory. You

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Speaker 1: You say, how does it feel to have your first

430
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Speaker 1: feature film? I did, yeah, I did say has it?

431
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Speaker 1: And he's like, well, it's actually my seventh Yeah, So

432
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Speaker 1: I thought, wow, yep, if that's audio, you'll never go

433
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Speaker 1: to air. Now. What was happening? Right? So I've just

434
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Speaker 1: put that audio. Just put my microphone down. I'll wait

435
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Speaker 1: for a Hemsworth came over. I texted son Your, our

436
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 1: executive producer at the time, and I was like, hey, yeah,

437
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 1: nothing in that carpet, like it looked suck out. You know,

438
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 1: were covered on socials, so we're covered, but there's nothing

439
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 1: in it. Next morning, didn't realize that there was a

440
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Speaker 1: two page lift out in the in the city newspapers,

441
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: which was a journo who was standing next to me,

442
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 1: heard that higher scenario going down, transcribed it, put it

443
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 1: all on paper and talked about such a disastrous interview.

444
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,880
Speaker 1: And Sonya and Kyle, who was already in the studio,

445
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,199
Speaker 1: they said, where is this audio? And I was like,

446
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not like a hard drive somewhere,

447
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 1: like I steal the cards still in the microphone. Sony's like,

448
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 1: give it to me now. And we played that on

449
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,360
Speaker 1: the air and that was the break. Because the audio,

450
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 1: which I didn't identify, they think it's one of my

451
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 1: best work because it was a genuine mistake. I was

452
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 1: like time and there was a director and I like,

453
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Speaker 1: because that's my worst fear. So my worst fear is

454
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 1: when the pubs goes, hey, would you like to talk

455
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Speaker 1: to the star of blah blah blah blah. I go sure,

456
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Speaker 1: and then there's this panic where I go, I've got

457
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Speaker 1: about three and a half seconds to work out what

458
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Speaker 1: this person's name is that I don't know who I've

459
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: just said yes to the talk to many of the

460
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Speaker 1: times it's happened to me. Now I have full blown conversations,

461
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Speaker 1: no idea who who you are? Watch it? I go, oh,

462
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: and again I'm probably going a little bit behind the

463
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 1: curtain here a little bit, and I go, oh, my god,

464
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Speaker 1: talk about your last twelve months, will you? Because I

465
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Speaker 1: want to hear about And then you try to work

466
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Speaker 1: out who they are. Oh, it's happened too many times.

467
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 1: You're amazing. It's so bad. It's so bad sometimes.

468
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're so First of all, love the Tiger?

469
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Speaker 2: Did you get to rehash out with him when you

470
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Speaker 2: did Love and Thunder?

471
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Speaker 1: I tried to explain it to him brief No, No,

472
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Speaker 1: I was told I couldn't talk to him. I mean, yeah,

473
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Speaker 1: so I wouldn't say we got a hemy? I remember

474
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Speaker 1: you got a hemy that way?

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

476
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: I did get a hemy. Everyone loves that saying. By

477
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Speaker 1: the way.

478
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: I live in Byron and people like, do you see

479
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Speaker 2: do you see hemys? Yeah, we see hemmys.

480
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Speaker 1: I love that they are so cool. We we spoke

481
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Speaker 1: to Alica this morning actually on the show. She is

482
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Speaker 1: they're just a hood of a family, to be honest.

483
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Speaker 1: They really get her on the potty.

484
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Speaker 2: She's great, Oh yeah, and all into the health as well,

485
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 2: the same as me. Okay, so we're talking red carpets,

486
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 2: we're talking stars. Has there been a star where you're like,

487
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, they just gave so much and they're

488
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 2: always a good sport when you see them. I recently

489
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: went to a taping of James Carden's late night show Amazing,

490
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Speaker 2: and somebody there's a moment where they're not tape and

491
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Speaker 2: he goes, what's your like? Studio audience asked me a

492
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: question and someone goes, who's the best guess? And like,

493
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 2: because none of it's been recorded, he can say, right, yeah,

494
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: he's like, without a shadow of a doubt, Tom Cruise, right,

495
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 2: he goes, he does the best bits, He gives one

496
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 2: thousand percent. He is a quintessential Hollywood star, and he

497
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Speaker 2: cares like he gives it his all every single time

498
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Speaker 2: and just even the way he said it with like

499
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Speaker 2: such convictions. So is there anyone that you've like, You've

500
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Speaker 2: done so many red carbs, You've done so many events,

501
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 2: You've done so many launches, Like is this a celebrity

502
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Speaker 2: or a star where you're like every time, they're just

503
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Speaker 2: a legend?

504
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: Probably two? Can I have two? Yeah? Dave Growl, who

505
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Speaker 1: fighters probably the most boyfriend, is going to be that rat,

506
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: the absolutely legend. I've generally got goosebumps out thing like

507
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: I love to talk to him again. He is so

508
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: generous with his time and he works with the teams

509
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Speaker 1: around him, and he's I've got three out, please, this

510
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: is great. I've got three. So Dave Groll, one of

511
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: the best in the business. Can complete professional, make sure

512
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Speaker 1: the people around you are comfortable. You know, you're locked

513
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: him for a ten minute interview. It's like, well, I'm

514
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: enjoying this. Let's just keep going as long as everyone else,

515
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: everyone else in behind of the queue. You guys are good. Yep,

516
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: we're all good, and he'll keep going. Hugh Jackman another example,

517
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: like what Hugh Jackman one of the best in the business,

518
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: and I can't take the claim for this interview, but

519
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: he's one of his best mates. Gus Wallen for Triple

520
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: M tells his great story and this is the way

521
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: Hugh treats his what he does with the interviews. He says,

522
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: you do your movies for free, but you get paid

523
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: for your publicity, so give it all in your publicity.

524
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: And that's because his take was people are giving up

525
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: their time to talk about your product, your movie, seeing book,

526
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: whatever happens to be. That's the part you get paid for,

527
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: so give them everything you can. You're not getting paid

528
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 1: for the movies. And I thought, what a great way

529
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Speaker 1: to get that third. Yes, Gary V.

530
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Speaker 2: I've heard you say this about Gary just I've seen

531
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Speaker 2: him talk.

532
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: He's incredible. Now the reason why I love him so much,

533
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: he is the example of how to conduct yourself around

534
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: no matter how small you are, whether you're making the

535
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: cup of coffee, sweeping the floor. The respect he has

536
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: for people around him is just insane. And he's someone

537
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: when he shakes your hand and looks you in the eye,

538
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: you know they mean it. He's just amazing.

539
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: And the way he was able to like clock everybody's names.

540
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: Oh I still remember. I know he's got one of

541
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: those photographic memories well, I can't even remember anyone's name,

542
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I'm the worst, So like,

543
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Speaker 1: who's this long of girl trying to get me on

544
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Speaker 1: the pot? Oh?

545
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Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing that, because I always when I

546
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Speaker 2: get somebody that works in radio or tally the interviews

547
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Speaker 2: people I love here like and when I live in

548
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Speaker 2: La like, I love.

549
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: Hearing stories of like who gives the most.

550
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Speaker 2: That's why I always say when I went in sataince

551
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: to your audience of James Corden, because he'll hang his shoes.

552
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: Up at the end of this year.

553
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Speaker 2: He's that's it, that's it, and he gave so much,

554
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Speaker 2: and like after you ask a question, he'd be like, oh,

555
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: bless you.

556
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well just it's a difference between them

557
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: giving a ship and you because there's there's so much

558
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: fakeness in the industry as well. Just go, okay, I

559
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: get it. You're just doing your thing. But when you

560
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: meet the ones that are legit, you're like, oh, thank you,

561
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: And I was looking just don't don't worry about me.

562
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm just inter impeat. I'm paying the ass. I'm literally

563
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: just seeing how much I can get out of you

564
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: in this allocated time. Here, but when they give you

565
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: that time of day, it's it's great. And I think

566
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: it comes back to what I was saying before too,

567
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: like I don't take myself seriously. I don't want you

568
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Speaker 1: to feel any I don't want you to feel uncomfortable. Like,

569
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: I know you've got your things, these commitments. You've probably

570
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: got to get away with your movies and stay on point.

571
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: And let's not ask about personal questions. But if they

572
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: pop up and you're comfortable uncomfortable, let's go, you know

573
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Speaker 1: what I mean. So that's also a testament to you

574
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Speaker 1: as well.

575
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm making people comfortable around I hope, so people should good.

576
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Speaker 1: I never want anyone feeling crap or I've been in

577
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: trouble in the past where you know, perhaps things have

578
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: got a little bit off point and stuff. That's never

579
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: my intention to upset anyone or stir the pot or

580
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: anything like that. But when it happens to we're he

581
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Speaker 1: now yeah, rollink that should be my Biline we now so.

582
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Speaker 2: Podcast or your book. I love that you just mentioned before.

583
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: There's a lot of fake in the industry. I fully

584
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: agree with you. How do you navigate that? Like, because

585
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: I imagine as well, people probably go to you. Oh, well

586
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: you work at the biggest radio show, you know what

587
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Like, can you get me this or can

588
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: you Like.

589
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: Everyone loves a free tickets. Yeah, yeah, everyone loves free tickets.

590
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: People think that I'm just like like like you know,

591
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: there is and in wilwors and calls out those ticket

592
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: machines so that people honestly think to be honest, tickets

593
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: aren't like it's not like the nineties where radio stations

594
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: are getting truckloads. Yeah, we do have truckloads, but they're

595
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: allocated to the listeners. You can call the phone number

596
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: and try and win the tickets like everyone else. So

597
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: I'll start to name a name sooner a bit. I'll

598
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: tell you right now, Maneu for Dell. I'm working on

599
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: your Bruno mask tickets, all right, mate, texting me yesterday

600
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: when I was asleep. It's a Bruno mask, Yes, Manu,

601
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm working on and I've just got to get approval.

602
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: It is listing.

603
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 2: So what but what back to the fakeness thing, like

604
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: what do you do if? Like because I feel it

605
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: as well, Like sometimes especially in the I'm more in

606
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 2: the influencer space, and sometimes you'll meet someone they're like hey, babe,

607
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: Like and you're like, oh, okay, your pitch is way

608
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: too high for me to trust anyway. I like, usually

609
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: that's my dea giveaway tone or pitch changes the second

610
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: you meet them, be like, oh hang on, my spidy

611
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: senses is saying this could be off. But my point is,

612
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: like I'm a lone wolf, right, So what I'll do

613
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: is to be like, oh no, I can't, sorry, I'm busy,

614
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: Like I'll just pull myself out of the situation. Yeah,

615
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: for sure, much like my boyfriend can't do it. Is

616
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: like social and bubbly and doesn't like upsetting people. Gets

617
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: a bit of guilt. But how do you navigate when

618
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: you know, like we're both old enough.

619
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: To know if someone's a ding go or not.

620
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 2: Usually in the first minute or two you're like, Okay,

621
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: this person feels really genuine, or this person feels like

622
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: they want something from me, or is a bit taky,

623
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: or you know, and living half an la you get

624
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: to see it kind of on steroids.

625
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes, And so yeah, my.

626
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 2: My response when i feel like I'm around fake or

627
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: somebody that just purely wants to take from me, I'll

628
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: be like, okay, no, thank you, and I'll just take

629
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: myself out of the equation. But you're in a situation

630
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: where you can like managing relationships almost all all the time.

631
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: So how do you navigate when something feels a bit

632
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: funky or fake?

633
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: Oh? Look, the filter, the absolute filter is, is it?

634
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: I do a couple of roles in the station as well,

635
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: so that kind of does help. So what I try

636
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: and do is go, firstly, wonder if this is in order.

637
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: So I'm just thinking this through because I haven't been

638
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: asked this question before. Firstly, do I know the person? Great? Yeap?

639
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: How to relationship with them for the last twenty years?

640
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Like we I love the no bullshit approach.

641
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: It's either get back to someone really quickly if it's

642
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: a no, just so that they can move on to

643
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: the next option. Totally. I think that's really important. Don't

644
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: leave someone hang and go oh hey, I'll get back

645
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: to you when I can. You wait three days and

646
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: you go no. I don't think that's fair because it

647
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's a no. Just give me the

648
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: answer just so they can move on. I think that's

649
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: really important to give them back whether they are giving

650
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: you the you just know that they're like they're asking

651
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: for everything, for free and everything. Look, it's not going

652
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: toppen give them the straight answer straight away so they

653
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: can move on. Really important first of all, Number one,

654
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: if it's I'm not sure, hey, let me just I've

655
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: got to do the rounds on this, I'll come back

656
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: the asap. And then if they are someone that you

657
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: just go like, this is just I'm not sure what

658
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: you want out of me in the fakeness or whatever

659
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: it happens to be. Firstly, I probably look at it

660
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: and go, can I get anything out of this for me,

661
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: for my job, for personally, blah blah blah. Is it

662
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: worth it for me in any way possible? That sess

663
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: that And if it's an absolute no, then then move on.

664
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: You know it's great, I don't know. It's I think

665
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: if anyone's taken the time to pick up the phone,

666
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: send you a text message or an email, they deserve

667
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: a writer reply in some form. And I always say,

668
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: my job's not to give the you know, the right answer,

669
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: but just a answer for a start. It's just important.

670
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: So that's kind of how I deal with. Look, they've

671
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: taken the time, don't worry're probably asking the same question

672
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: to twenty people. That's fine, but that's good. It's nothing

673
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: personal as well. In the industry, I don't think. I

674
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: don't think people should take it too personally.

675
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: Totally, but I think the industry often and I work

676
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: on the other side of it because I don't know,

677
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: if you know, it's I'm trained six years now acting voiceover,

678
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: acting all that, and so like, you love a no

679
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 2: because you get it straight away and you can move

680
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: on to the next thing. But you don't get often

681
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: don't even get a reply.

682
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, and that's.

683
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: Tricky in Australia because you're like, oh, just give me

684
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: a freaking I don't know. We're flipping to the other

685
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: side of it now, but I do love that you're

686
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: all about just give an answer, just let.

687
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: Them know, just so that everyone can move on in

688
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: peace and not leave people hanging, because I've been left there.

689
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: You know. We all get in their heads sometimes going

690
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: imagine if it is a yes, and all that sort

691
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: of stuff. You know, sometimes as long as you can

692
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: handle a bit of a knock back, if it's a

693
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: hard no, you're like, okay, I need to change my

694
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: strategy full stop. So I have a look at that

695
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: down the track. But you know, and then you know

696
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: sometimes like I've gone for job interviews in the past

697
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: and I go, look, I know I didn't get the gig.

698
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: Is there any feedback you've got anything? I can Yeah,

699
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: I can always I want to know. I want to

700
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: know how you know. So sorry, I'm getting sidetracked as well.

701
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's kind of how I navigate through life.

702
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: And well that's happened there, So next time I'll do

703
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: it that way and just keep fishy tail through it.

704
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: It feels right for there, and then mold it, remold

705
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: it as you get older and you change things when

706
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: your move departments or whatever it happens to be. So

707
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: I love it even makes sense.

708
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got very philosophical and I quite like it.

709
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: My hippie brain loved it. So what about with you

710
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: do so much? Like internationally as well, Like you're on

711
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: a plane, I think in that I've spent the last

712
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: six months in LA I feel like you've it felt

713
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: like you were there three.

714
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: Times I think I was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, COVID's over. Yeah, big, big, big,

715
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: big time.

716
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: So what do you notice what's the biggest difference when

717
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: you're doing a red carpital interview or say like a

718
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: say you were there for like the launch of a

719
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: movie or something like that and you get to interview

720
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: the stars. What's the difference doing that in say Los

721
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: Angeles versus Australia.

722
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: Austral this train accent helps so much in the US. Now,

723
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: I love the I've got a nice, strong one, and

724
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: I get a little bit stronger on the US carpets

725
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: as well because they're like, oh, we've got an assie.

726
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, god get and I really ramp it up

727
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: and they end up loving that, so I play on

728
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: the look. The American carpets are a lot bigger, a

729
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: lot more high pressure, a lot more publicists, a lot

730
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: more lanyards, and a lot more barcodes to get in everywhere.

731
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: But those carpets I find it's all about establishing for

732
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: the word go as well and introduce I'm from Australia.

733
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: We're on the You got to understand we're small on

734
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: the food chain. You know, you've got your E News

735
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: is with you, Juliana Ransis, Ryan Seacrestle, that sort of

736
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: stuff in Today Show and all that sort of stuff.

737
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: In America, they're a big deal We're a little old Australia.

738
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: We're a little island country where they're flying people around

739
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: the world from Europe and bits and pieces. So you've

740
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: got to really establish let them know that Australia is here,

741
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: we are here to support your amazing big movie and

742
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. And it's really that is

743
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: a lot of back end work. So as much as

744
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: I say, I don't prep a lot for all that

745
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: sort of stuff, but what I do do is ensure

746
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: people know that I'm here. Because these guys and girls

747
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: working on red carpets, they're busy in their own worlds.

748
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: They're not here to worry about you. However, you need

749
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: to make them worry about you, or at least know

750
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: that you are here and that you've gotten on the

751
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: plane you've sent the last twenty hours in the year

752
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: here to specific get this information or get this brad

753
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: from this carpet.

754
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: You've got to be direct with Americans, Yeah, straight up,

755
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: like they would love that You're like, hey, I'm Pete,

756
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: I'm here from Australia. I'm looking forward to this and

757
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: they'll be like, oh my goodness, They'll be like.

758
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: Love to meet you, Pete. Like, yeah, get you off.

759
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: I was there in Vegas last week. Someone said, oh

760
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: my god, you're from Australia. I was like, yeah, yeah,

761
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: are you guys still in lockdown? I went, what, Yeah,

762
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: I just still think we're still in lockdown. Yeah, yeah,

763
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: which is crazy. You know, that's that's how sad story

764
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: I suppose.

765
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so interesting to say that about how it's

766
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: a different kind of like it does feel like also

767
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: when you're there, it feels like there's a red carpet

768
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: or especially like if I ever walked down in Hollywood Boulevard,

769
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: you've got the Chinese theater across from that, You've got

770
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: I think it's called Al Capatana. You got all these

771
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: different then you've got the Dolby Theater where the Oscars is,

772
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: and they're all next to one another, all across the

773
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: road from another. It feels like there's something on every night.

774
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: Honestly, is you could feel you could literally because I

775
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: also do that if I fly in soe was in

776
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: the LA for forty eight hours, you could cover so

777
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: much of percent. So that's what I try and do,

778
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: is I try and fill that forty eight I was like, well,

779
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: I can sleep on the plane on the way home,

780
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: so I really try and justify those trips. The company

781
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: has invested in me to get on. I'm the representing

782
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: from the show. Sometimes I'm representing the country because they go,

783
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: we won't worry about t or sorry, Angela Biship not

784
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: this time. In turn, Pete's going and she goes, what

785
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: the how did you go? How did you get that?

786
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: I went, Angela, you're over the raw. You're covering the

787
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: queen death. I mean Angela Bishop, good friend of mine.

788
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: She's over there to interview George Clinty and Julie Roberts

789
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: for her new movie What Happens. While she's in London.

790
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: The Queen dies. Next minute, Angela's on the front front

791
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: TV of every television across the country because she's there

792
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: for the Queen's death. You know, she's incredible. Sure how

793
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: I got there, but I just don't need to share

794
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: that story. I love you. You know, she's incredible. I

795
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: love it. I love it. She is someone I really

796
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: look up to as well. I used to bug Ange

797
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: about twenty years ago. Stupidly, she gave me her mobile

798
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: number when Oprah Winfrey came out to Australia and I

799
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: was kind of asking her for advice like how to

800
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: get Oprah on the show. She was so polite, like,

801
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: you go Pete, you go Pete. And then some reason,

802
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: somehow I ended up with their phone number and I

803
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: didn't stop texting, and you know what she did. She

804
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: never told me off for it and never told me

805
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: to stop texting, and I mean hounding her for advice,

806
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: and she always gave me an answer and always got

807
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: back to me. When I finally met her in person

808
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: years later, she was like, look at you.

809
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: You never forget that as well. Like I remember when

810
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: I first started morning TV. I was twenty two years old,

811
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: so I'm thirty seven now, and every time I go on,

812
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: I'd be really nervous. It was called nine Am with

813
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: David and Kim, so it was the Channel ten. I'm

814
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: pretty sure Morning Show after the burton In Morning Show

815
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: was the next show, and David Rain took me under

816
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: his wing. Every time I'd go on, I'd go on

817
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: weekly do hell segments, and I get so nervous that

818
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 2: I'd go off script and everything, and he'd always be like, now, Lola,

819
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: come back and talk to me about lacriice ti here.

820
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: You just would always like you remember the good people

821
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: you also remember the people too that give you no

822
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: time of the day or shut you down. There's nothing worse.

823
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: I had a female host on a big TV show here.

824
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: I was doing a two part segment about health for fertility,

825
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: female hormone modulating stuff, and in the break and how

826
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: there's usually like a two minute break where they do

827
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: all the advertorials.

828
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: So the crew is pretty quiet. You're pretty quiet.

829
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: They're just resetting anything that needs to be reset. And

830
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: she goes to me, so you're pregnant, right, And you

831
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: could hear a pin drop, which is like such a.

832
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: Kind of mean thing to do.

833
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: It's young, Like I was fifteen years younger than this coast,

834
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: and I was like, and I just was in my head,

835
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: I was like, just don't cry, loola, like, don't cry,

836
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: like hold yourself together, like because in my head I

837
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: was like, she's telling me I'm fat.

838
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: She's said I'm fat. You know, like it's really interesting

839
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: to hear.

840
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: But then you have like the incredible people that like

841
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: support you along the way, and you're just like, oh,

842
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: it wasn't for them.

843
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would have stayed in the

844
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: I have to say A strained meeting in particular, really

845
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: should take their hat off the extremely supportive of people.

846
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: They love an underdog, they really do. I found that

847
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: in acting circles in news and also of all that

848
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. It's nice because you hear too many

849
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: stories of people the cutthroat industry and you know, everyone

850
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: out to get everyone's job and all that sort off.

851
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: I feel like Australias really should take its hat off

852
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 1: to the way the treatment of people and it's like, oh, hey,

853
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: you just got that new gig. Genuinely congratulations, even though

854
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: you probably you might have gone for the same job yourself.

855
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: I feel like there's Australia is really good at that.

856
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, there's no there's no bs here. It

857
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 2: does feel like, yeah, totally filter. So my final question

858
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: view is I could talk to you all day last,

859
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: But my final question is, though, what about if someone's

860
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: listening to this that you have their dream job and

861
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: it's like, well, how do you work in radio in

862
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 2: Australia nowadays?

863
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: Like what's your advice for someone starting out?

864
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: That's like, I have no idea how I want to

865
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: get there, but it's like something that feels like it's

866
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: a calling in my heart, Like do you have any

867
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: advice for just like a whipper snapper wanting.

868
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: To do what you do. Yeah, totally, no, not totally.

869
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: It's the wrong answer. I've got a roundabout it answer,

870
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: but I think it's from what works. I can't say

871
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: work for me because it's still not working. We're just

872
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: making a mess. Basically, celebrate yourself for starters, embrace who

873
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: you are. Is as I said earlier in the podcast,

874
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: like I can barely write, I can barely read. I

875
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: have never been tested for ADHD or anything like that.

876
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: I know I probably should, to be honest, but I've

877
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: landed in a place in my career now where it's embraced. So, Kyle,

878
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: we know I don't have that skill. I'm not the

879
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: person who's writing these long sheets of information for any

880
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: radio host who happens to be I don't have that skill.

881
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: I have all these other skills. And so wherever you land,

882
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: whether it's radio, whether it's whatever job you want to do,

883
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: my advice is land somewhere that embraces you, because you'll

884
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: had the best time of your life if you get

885
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: to do what you do, and if you love scrub

886
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: and flaws, you will have the best time. If that's

887
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: what you love, because just go and find that, and

888
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: just make sure the people around your respect what you

889
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: bring to the table is really important. I love that.

890
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna ask one more question, but as you go,

891
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: I've got to ask you one more just because you've

892
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: always shared so openly so much of your journey personal

893
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: and professional. How important is looking after your mental health team?

894
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? God, so important. Yeah it is. And you know what,

895
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: you get lost along the way sometimes I reckon I'm

896
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: on the back end of Look, I probably had a

897
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: best describe this one. It is so important. And you

898
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: know what we tell us the sells that time meantime again,

899
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: and you know when you're not doing it right. I

900
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: think that the best thing is to not to be

901
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: too hard on yourself when you're you know, you know

902
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: you're not. You know you're not, So don't don't kick

903
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: yourself down even further. It's so important. I think it's

904
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: like you've got me right on the edge. I'm literally

905
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: coming up to twelve months since my mom passed away

906
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: next week, and I am an absolutely clusterfuck. There is

907
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: no question about it. I know in my head right now,

908
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: it's all over the shop. Just getting there mentally, So

909
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm putting everything in place, which normally for me is

910
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: like keep going, keep going, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy.

911
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to do is just find those pockets

912
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: are just going. You don't need to be busy to

913
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: get through this one. You have to allow yourself. So

914
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: my question is mentally you have you have to look

915
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: do your best to try and avoid what might come.

916
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: But also when it comes to be hard on yourself

917
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: because you weren't going to control that. It was company.

918
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: It was going to find a way to get it through,

919
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So definitely give it, give

920
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: it all you possibly can because and it's okay, it

921
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: all just absolutely goes to shit as well, So so

922
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: important it really is. And exercises is a really good

923
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: thing for that. If you can't do much, is at

924
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: least the walk just something, just something, you know what

925
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: I mean. We're not in lockdown anymore, so there really

926
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: actually is an excuse anymore so unless you're in Melbourne

927
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: about to go into your nineteenth lockdown for this year.

928
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: So that's my that's my take on it.

929
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: Anyways, No, thank you for you do speak so beautifully

930
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: about mental health.

931
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: So I'm glad that it's really really important just say it.

932
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: It's not you know, there's some great, great support groups

933
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: and stuff out there, but I think the people around you.

934
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: Just make sure you've got the right people too. That's

935
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: what I thought, perfect little at each other in the

936
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: eye then, and I was going to get all emotional.

937
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: It is this that I really enjoyed this podcast. I

938
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: want to congratulate you. Can I tell you about one

939
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: of my best friends, Sonya as well. She was a

940
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: mega fan of Sorry, she is a mega fan of you,

941
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: and she actually told me about you about ten years

942
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: ago and I was like, and I texted on the

943
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: way and I said, what tell me what drew you

944
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: to Lola all those years ago? Because she mega fan?

945
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: And she was like, I just love that. She was

946
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: raw and honest and she swore and she just everything

947
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: she says is just just make sense. So I used

948
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: to getting so much. It's good though. It's good though,

949
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: be honest, you know what I mean. We're we're in

950
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: a world now where I think the effort is pretty

951
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: much going to be part of the language.

952
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: So right totally, and I think PS love you, Sonya,

953
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. But I also think, like if

954
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: you can be real and b whoever f that is, who.

955
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: The fuck that is?

956
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, I think being real

957
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: is such a superpower and it's kind of rare. Like

958
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: and I like, even on the way here yesterday I

959
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 2: sent I did a brand new voice of real because

960
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: I've just got back from six months of training my

961
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: butt off in LA And I sent it to like

962
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: four big guns of like big agents in Australia, and

963
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: one wrote me a really awesome no response, but really lovely,

964
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: And I wrote back, going, oh my god, thank you

965
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: so much. It's so effing rare that someone even replies

966
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: yes day made thanks speaks like I don't never work

967
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: with them ever because they said no. But like, I

968
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: just love honesty. It's like such a rare thing that

969
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: I think has such cut through and we we need it.

970
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: We need honesty around totally.

971
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: And pick your battles too, like pick your like obviously

972
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: read the room. If someone does look a little bit

973
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: tender and stuff like that, maybe your response does need

974
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: to be a little bit you know, to match that person,

975
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: but without bullshitting them. At the end of the day,

976
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: don't bullshit them. But maybe match, maybe match the person

977
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: that needs the reply if they're coming to be like,

978
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: could you have a listen, It's like, okay, maybe the

979
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: response doesn't need to go fuck yourself. But also you

980
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: know he's busy, so good.

981
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: Honesty is honestly the best thing, Emma, and that is

982
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: what you have in spades, my friend.

983
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: And it's been an absolute honor to have you on

984
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: the Pope. I love this. Can I come back? Honestly? Yes,

985
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: let's still a part two in LA. Let's still a

986
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: part two in LA fantastic. When I'm on the ground

987
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: flat out you four days to get everything you can.

988
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: You gotta do Lallas's podcast. We like I'm tying you down.

989
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: Only finish one beer. Well done, We'll do the hot

990
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: seat next.

991
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing.

992
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: As always, thank you to our.

993
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: Guests, and let's continue the conversation on Instagram.

994
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Speaker 1: I'm at Gyumo Berry.

995
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 2: This potty my word for podcast is available on all

996
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,479
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997
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