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Speaker 1: Joining me in the studio right now is Christina Boothby.

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Speaker 1: Now I know that you'll recognize her last name. She

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Speaker 1: is indeed the mum of Mary Clare Boothby, but she's

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Speaker 1: been in this role for longer than Marray Claire has

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Speaker 1: been a politician, and she is joining us as the

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Speaker 1: Campavan and Motor Home Club of Australia's Northern Territory representative.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Christina.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and good morning listeners.

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Speaker 1: It's lovely to have you on the show and lovely

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Speaker 1: to meet you in person. Now, firstly, can you tell

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Speaker 1: us who exactly the Cabavan and Motor Home Club of

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Speaker 1: Australia represents.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a national organization. It's the largest campavan and

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Speaker 2: Motor Home club in Australia with nearly sixty sixty eight

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Speaker 2: thousand members and we believe in freedom of choice camping

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Speaker 2: and we look after our members by giving them lots

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Speaker 2: of different benefits and letting them know where the places

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Speaker 2: are best for camping. And we also promote leave no

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Speaker 2: trace and also self contained vehicles. Yeah, we don't want

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Speaker 2: them just camping Willyell everywhere. Yeah, that's basically what we're about, yes.

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Speaker 1: And it's something that I hadn't really thought a huge

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Speaker 1: Beach in the RV park there and combat scarlets. The

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Speaker 1: Mare had been saying, you know, we're talking about those

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Speaker 1: that don't you know, that don't have they don't need

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Speaker 1: thought I didn't even realize that there was a huge difference.

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Speaker 1: But by the sounds of it, there most certainly is.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's a large market now. Most of the caravans

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Speaker 2: and RV motorhomes are now being fitted with everything that

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Speaker 2: they need, yep. And that's why we can promote these

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Speaker 2: self contained vehicles going into these RV parks. Is yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot different than the tourist resorts that we've got.

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Speaker 2: They don't need the swing pools, they don't need the

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Speaker 2: jumping castles, and most of them don't even need need

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Speaker 2: power because they've got solar systems and batteries to be

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Speaker 2: able to run the basics that they need in their RV's.

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Speaker 1: So Christina, tell me, with the you know, with that

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Speaker 1: Bundilla Beach proposal, it's something that you know, some people

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Speaker 1: were all for it. Others were totally against it. From

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Speaker 1: your perspective, you know, in your role with the camp

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Speaker 1: of at a motor home club and taking into consideration

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Speaker 1: what you've just told us about how self sufficient people are, like,

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Speaker 1: would it have been a good location or will it

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Speaker 1: still be a good location to have an RV park?

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Speaker 2: Definitely. I can tell you the history when I first

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Speaker 2: have a Facebook page called that and it's been five years.

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Speaker 2: And the first place that we looked at was the

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Speaker 2: Milely Point site really, yes, where the previous Darwin hospital was. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: where Mary Claire was born and as and we put

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Speaker 2: a proposal in there in twenty twenty and it was rejected,

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Speaker 2: isn't given. I didn't get a proper explanation. And then

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Speaker 2: they put the playground there. Oh that's right, discussion. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's a fantastic playground. It's great and there's still room

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Speaker 2: we've gone to the Darwin Bowls Club and that's also

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Speaker 2: been rejected over the years and now we've got Bundilla

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Speaker 2: and I'm so pleased that our Lord Mayor is promoting

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Speaker 2: those rbs will to be parked as long as it's

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Speaker 2: somewhere near the city, because our members do not come

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Speaker 2: to Darwin if they don't have somewhere that that can

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Speaker 1: And I know that some people sort of say, well,

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Speaker 1: what do you say to people that are thinking to

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, Well, a third of our members, we've done

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Speaker 2: a surveys, many surveys over the years. Third of them

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Speaker 2: stay in those tropical paradises and I have too. I've

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Speaker 2: caravan places and tropical tourist parks. They're lovely. But a

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Speaker 2: So they're the ones we're looking at. And then of

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Speaker 2: But for years and years when they were coming up

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Speaker 2: the more they'll spend in town.

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Speaker 1: Well want them in Darn, Yeah, that was going to

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Speaker 1: be my next question. Do they you know when you

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Speaker 1: talk about the impact to the economy, are they big spenders?

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Speaker 1: Do they go out, you know, eating at the restaurants

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Speaker 2: Well, they certainly do. The average spend they reckons eight

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Speaker 2: going out to restaurants, they've got to get fuel, they

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Speaker 2: hair done and their nails, et cetera. So yes, they

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Speaker 2: do spend money in town. And the prime example I've

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Speaker 2: Now it's next door to the famous Humpty Do hotel

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Speaker 2: and it's run there by the CMCA our organization. We

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Speaker 2: have a custody in there that takes the bookings. It's

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Speaker 2: only in the dry season, and they do have to

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Speaker 2: be self contained. It is pet friendly, and the proprietor

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Speaker 2: of the hotel puts on a happy hour every Friday evening.

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Speaker 2: I'm going this Friday, and last year when I went,

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Speaker 2: it was seventy people extra in his hotel having happy hour,

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Speaker 2: while they're there that can stay up to fourteen days

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Speaker 2: the survey that our organization did at the end of

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Speaker 2: last year was it would have raised three quarters of

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Speaker 2: there's just not enough trade down.

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Speaker 1: So from your perspective, this would actually make a huge

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Speaker 1: And from the road you can hardly see if there's

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Speaker 1: get the wrong idea about, you know, what the RV

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Speaker 1: so well self contained and so and so. Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: Most of them are r V motor homes and there

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Speaker 2: are a few that will be caravans. I heard somebody

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Speaker 2: last week say, oh, there'll be twenty generators going all

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Speaker 2: There's rules around generators, yeah, right, allow them to go

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like something that's happening right around Australia,

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Speaker 1: and it's actually managed very well around Australia. But we

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Speaker 1: maybe just haven't actually picked up the ball here in

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Speaker 1: Darwin as quickly as we got right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, last year we set up another RV parkt

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Speaker 2: been proven to be successful too. They can stay fourteen

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Speaker 2: to hump you do and they can stay in other

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Speaker 1: Well, and yes, you've certainly opened my eyes up because

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people sort of have

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Speaker 1: been thinking about this discussion or thinking about the way

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Speaker 1: that this will work in quite a different way. Now,

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Speaker 1: I still want to ask you though, before I let

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Speaker 1: Motor Home Club on the you know, like on your

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Speaker 1: socials and where people are sharing information about the different

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can first off say that did you know

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Speaker 2: I've spoken to the councils. If Darwin just got ten

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Speaker 2: They're coming up to Darwin, so now it's fixed, hopefully

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Speaker 2: And I've heard from our members to that Alice Springs

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Speaker 2: They will go in, fuel up, get the supplies, do

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Speaker 1: It is so sad. It's such a beautiful place, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you drive in there and it is it

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Speaker 1: is almost spiritual how beautiful it looks. But then if

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Speaker 1: you're in a situation where you're worried about crime and

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Speaker 1: you're worried about being broken into it, it does mean

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Speaker 1: that you that you're not staying there.

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Speaker 2: I've personally stayed at least three of the caravan parks

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Speaker 2: in Alice Springs and they've always been lovely and everything's

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Speaker 2: been fined. But at the moment, yeah, even I would hesitate.

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Speaker 2: Tenant Creeks love story and just recently, Catherine, I've heard

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Speaker 2: that that's now getting bad with the crime, and of

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Speaker 2: course our members do hear about it and talk about

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Speaker 2: it on social media. So the ones that are coming

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Speaker 2: up will basically, yeah, just stop for fuel and supplies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, how biginn impact does

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Speaker 1: it make it for them? Then if they are hearing

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that they're not actually staying there for

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Speaker 1: a couple of days that they usually would. Thank It's

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Speaker 1: a real shame. Well, Christina Boothby, it's been lovely speaking

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Speaker 1: to you this morning. We are going to have to

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Speaker 1: leave it there. I really appreciate you coming in and

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Speaker 1: giving us that bit of context when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the way in which you know, the caravans and those

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Speaker 1: motor homes actually work and the way it might work

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Speaker 1: if we do get things going at Bundilla Beach, and

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Speaker 1: if not there, well somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: Yep. The only thing we really need is security. We

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Speaker 2: need a dumb point which is for waste disposal, and

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Speaker 2: we need pottable water because they are the two main

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Speaker 2: things that these rbs require. And in around Australia we

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Speaker 2: have a scheme whereby the public dump points are being

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Speaker 2: put in by CMCA and Kia. That's happening over the

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Speaker 2: last few years. So if we ever put a public

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Speaker 2: dumb point in there, they would already be paid for.

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Speaker 2: And you know how many dump points there are in Darwin?

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Speaker 2: How many one is that? It? Yes? And even people

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Speaker 2: living at Virginia, if you're parked on a friend's block

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Speaker 2: or a farm area or something, they don't have a

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Speaker 2: dump point. They've got to come into the city. They

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Speaker 2: go to the Hook Road dumb point and it's the

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Speaker 2: only one. If it ever gets blocked up, then we're

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Speaker 2: in big trouble. So I'm being talking to the lawd

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Speaker 2: mayor and also the government departments. Anywhere there's a public toilet,

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Speaker 2: you can have a dump point and it doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 2: need to be managed and looked after. So if you

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Speaker 2: go in to clean the toilets, you can hose down

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Speaker 2: the dump point.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Well, Christina Boothby, I really appreciate you

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Speaker 1: having a chat with me this morning. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for coming in and you are, of course the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territories representative for the Abavan and Motorhome Club of Australia.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for having me