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Speaker 1: Great the flick with Ben Oshe.

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Speaker 2: Hello, good morning guys. Much now, it's always a challenging

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Speaker 2: thing to do a sequel many many years after the original.

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Speaker 2: In this case, we're talking about Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice, the sequel

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Speaker 2: to Beetlejuice. I've said it three times. It came out

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Speaker 2: back in nineteen eighty eight. Someone else can do the maths.

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Speaker 2: But it's a long time ago. And we saw this

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Speaker 2: thing happen recently with Maverick and Top Gun Maverick, which

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Speaker 2: turned out pretty good. Twisters and Twister, long awaited sequel

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Speaker 2: turned out okay as well. Usually they don't work out okay,

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Speaker 2: too much water has gone under the bridge.

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Speaker 1: And usually what.

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Speaker 2: Happens is the director and the writers go well, everybody

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Speaker 2: wants a return to the original. It becomes about, you know,

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Speaker 2: sort of a fan service and legacy and how can

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Speaker 2: we just basically recycle all the same jokes and all

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Speaker 2: the same characters, And it probably doesn't really offer very

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Speaker 2: much new. But with Tim Burton directing the sequel as

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Speaker 2: he did the original, you hope for more, right, because

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Speaker 2: he is a guy with a very clear aesthetic, a

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Speaker 2: clear vision for how he makes his films. To be honest,

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Speaker 2: in recent years, those films haven't been very good. Like

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Speaker 2: I think you probably go back fifteen years to find

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Speaker 2: the last Tim Burton movie that you would actually say

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Speaker 2: that's a good movie.

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Speaker 1: Tim Burton classic, Tim Burton classic.

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Speaker 2: He kind of became, you know, a caricature of himself

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Speaker 2: and just became too tim burton ish in recent years.

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Speaker 2: And you know, obviously had did a lot of films

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Speaker 2: a Johnny Depp along the way, which were you know,

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Speaker 2: probably didn't help him very much. But now he's reunited

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Speaker 2: with the great Michael Keaton, who's reprising the character of Beetlejuice.

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Speaker 2: And for people who don't remember, he's the ghost with

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Speaker 2: the most He's a ghost in the afterlife who's a

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Speaker 2: bio exorcist. You can summon him by saying his name

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Speaker 2: three times and he'll come and deal with whatever ghosts

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Speaker 2: you have haunting your house. And in the original film,

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Speaker 2: you know, you had a young Wanona rider Yea and

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Speaker 2: her parents Catherine O'Hara, the Great Catherine O'Hara and Jeffrey

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Speaker 2: jo the principal from Ferris Buela were her parents, and

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Speaker 2: they were haunted by Gina Davis and Alec Baldwin, two

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Speaker 2: recently deceased couple who didn't want these newbies in their house.

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Speaker 2: Beatlejuice comes along, but you summon him, you get more trouble,

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Speaker 2: and you know what it's worth because he was a

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Speaker 2: very politically incorrect ghost who wanted nothing more but to

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Speaker 2: marry the teenage win ownA Rider, which I.

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Speaker 1: Watched it again recently.

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Speaker 2: That aspect has an aged particularly well, I will say,

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Speaker 2: but it's it's a classic, like it is a wild,

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Speaker 2: wild film. Like you look back at it, you go,

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Speaker 2: what was Tim Burton smoking when he made this? But

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Speaker 2: it was it's a cracker. And in the new film,

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Speaker 2: Winona Rider's character, Lydia Deeks has because she can see ghosts.

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Speaker 2: She's gone on to become a celebrity spirit medium and

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Speaker 2: so she's got her own TV show called ghost House

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Speaker 2: and she has people on talking about ghosts. But when

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Speaker 2: her dad dies, so Richard Deeks was played by Jeffrey Jones,

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Speaker 2: who is not in this film because he got into

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Speaker 2: some unsavory child exploitation material charges and so Tim Burton

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Speaker 2: in the first scene basically depicts him in claymation getting

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Speaker 2: bitten in half by a Shark.

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Speaker 1: Took care of that.

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Speaker 2: Took care of that, and so that death prompts Lydia

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Speaker 2: and her mum, Delia to go back to the original

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Speaker 2: house from the first movie where they're going to have

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Speaker 2: the funeral, and of course, you know, they're going back

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Speaker 2: into into their own memories, into Lydia's childhood, and of

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Speaker 2: course Beetlejuice was a big part of that, so that's

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Speaker 2: how he kind of ends up back on the scene.

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Speaker 2: But this time there is a new teen daughter who's

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Speaker 2: got a bit of an attitude played by Jenna or

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Speaker 2: Taga from Wednesday, who is a writer's daughter, Lydia's daughter,

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Speaker 2: and she brings a really great fresh vibe.

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Speaker 1: To the film.

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Speaker 2: I think she's a really fantastic young actor. And of course,

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Speaker 2: you know, Beetlejuice get it's involved, and then it kind

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Speaker 2: of goes off the rails as you would expect. It

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Speaker 2: does honor the original movie really really nicely without going

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Speaker 2: too far into only being about that, so it does

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Speaker 2: offer a new plot. They've tried hard not to just

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Speaker 2: like you know, sort of handmade claymation, old school vibe

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Speaker 2: with the special effects, which is really nice, but this

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Speaker 2: is really about Michael Keaton. He is just so fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Some great and new additions to the cast as well.

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Speaker 2: Monica Balucci plays Michael Keaton's ex wife from the Afterlife

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Speaker 2: who wants revenge on Feetle Juice, which is pretty funny

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Speaker 2: as a soul sucking witch. And you've got Willem Dafoe

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Speaker 2: who's also a ghost in the afterlife. He's a sort

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Speaker 2: of a ghost police detective because he was a B

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Speaker 2: movie actor in real life who died doing.

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Speaker 1: His own stunts.

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Speaker 2: He's playing a character called Jack Hardballer I don't know,

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Speaker 2: So there's stuff like that which is really really fun.

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Speaker 2: And justin throw is Winona Ryder's sort of boyfriend in

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Speaker 2: the film, who's just this, you know, sort of you know,

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Speaker 2: sort of new age hippie, dippy producer of her TV show,

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Speaker 2: but maybe he's got a bit of a nefarious intent

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes. So there's a bit going on in

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Speaker 2: this film. I would say overall, it probably doesn't have

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Speaker 2: that same classic feel that the original did. Like you

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Speaker 2: watch that and you go, do you know what people

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Speaker 2: are going to be talking about Beetlejuice for the next

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Speaker 2: thirty years you see someone wearing a black and white

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Speaker 2: striped jacket, you go.

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Speaker 1: Who you're supposed to be? Beetle Juice.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to be talking about the

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Speaker 2: sequel in the same way in thirty years time. In

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Speaker 2: some ways it improves, but overall you'd have to say

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Speaker 2: it's probably a slight step down from the original, but

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Speaker 2: that's extremely high bar. I think overall, Tim Burton's done

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Speaker 2: a pretty good job.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, how many beetle Juices are you hearing?

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give it three and a half? Okay,

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Speaker 1: very solid. Go watch it. It's an easy thing to

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Speaker 1: do nearly forty years later.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely your thoughts on please on film festival standing ovations

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Speaker 3: talking about this new movie got seventeen minutes yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It's out of control.

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Speaker 3: You even imagine standing there clapping, yes, seventeen minutes.

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Speaker 2: It sounds crazy, right, But the way they do it

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Speaker 2: is they have the stars coming on one at a time. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so they're going on, here comes in this case, till

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Speaker 2: the Swinter, till the Swinton comes out, and she's walking

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Speaker 2: from one side of the stage to the other show.

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Speaker 2: So it would feel like you're clapping different things. You're

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Speaker 2: not just one clapping, but it is getting out of control.

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Speaker 2: And then people said that particular movie maybe wasn't that

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Speaker 2: good anyway. So there you go and the Joker. The

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Speaker 2: Joker got eleven got eleven minutes, and us in the media,

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Speaker 2: we're judging it. We're going on eleven minutes.

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Speaker 1: Considerably less than the old motible if.

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Speaker 2: You need to get four minutes, So the movie companies

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Speaker 2: will be planting really good clapperes exactly clap us. You'd

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Speaker 2: need to stunt clap with your hands and be nearly

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Speaker 2: falling off. You couldn't just be an amateur going on

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Speaker 2: to be a professional. Thank you guys, good to say

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Speaker 2: you