1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda gem Nation. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: Look, if you're not following hashtag Sophie from Romania on Twitter, 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 2: you're truly missing out. For all the nasty, polarizing things 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: you see there. This is an absolute jem. I feel 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: emotional even talking about this story. It's amazing. I've been 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: following this for some time. It follows a rescue dog's 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: international journey to find a safe I'm loving home in 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: the UK and I don't know why I'm crying, but 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: this story has been remarkable because this dog has been 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: so traumatized. The man bringing us the joy, the hardships, 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: the milestones of Sophie from Romania is his owner, his dad, 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: an ex BBC journalist Rory Callan Jones, and he joins. 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: Us now, Hi, Rory, Hi there, Rory. I blame cat, 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: not cat the animal, but cat Stevens. As soon as 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: you put I love my Dog on, Everyone's going to 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: start going them and. 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: Going the blob. That's right. This has been an beautiful story, Rory. 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: And when you first got Sophie, I know you said 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: you bought a dog lead. You put it near the 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 2: door because you thought this would be one of those 21 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: stories where this dog comes into your home, licks your 22 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: face and suddenly this energetic part of the family and 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Sophie's story hasn't been that. 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: It hasn't no, and we had great expectations. I've had 25 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: a lovely dog called, believe it or not, Cabbage, which 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: died at the beginning of last year, and we took 27 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: some time to get over that and got this new dog. 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: We got her from Romania. We found it difficult to 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: find a suitable dog in the UK. She arrived in 30 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: our home the Saturday before Christmas, and that morning I thought, 31 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: this is great. I'm going to be able to take 32 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: a dog for a walk for the first time for months, 33 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: part of my morning routine, part of my fitness regime 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: really as a man of a certain age. And it 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: wasn't to be. This was a traumatized, terrified dog who 36 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: spent a large part of the first few months he 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: was with us behind the sofa. She didn't come out 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: except at night, and she certainly wasn't going to come 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: for a walk with me. 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: So what was her story? Why is she so traumatized? 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting because a lot of the dogs that 42 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: arrived from Eastern Europe, they've been street dogs, they've had 43 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: a hard time. She had been abandoned as a puppy, 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: but she's then been looked after in a barn by 45 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: the by the father of a vet who'd found her 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: before she joined us. I think she was traumatized by 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: being taken away from the only environment she knew, the 48 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: rural Romania, put in a van, driven across Europe for 49 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: three days. I mean, treated well, well fed and everything, 50 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: but it kin'd of been It must have been so different. 51 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: And then she suddenly finds herself in a house. She's 52 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: never been in the house before, she has never met, 53 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, strange people before, and she she just can't 54 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: go with it. And it's been we're three months in now, 55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: and it's a long, slow journey and you've seen it. 56 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: Thousands of people who have seen it because I put it, 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: put it on social media, and it seems to be 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: sort of captivated people. 59 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: So really, you're to blame. I thought it was coming 60 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: from some war torn area or something like that. We're 61 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: going to put in a van and I was in 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 3: the great paddocks and stuff and ouns. 63 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: In Well, she's she's lucked out in a way. She's 64 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: in a home with two people who care for her. 65 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: You know, everything's there for her food. We bought a 66 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: bed for her. She's not slept on it. She's behind 67 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: the sofa right now. Actually she does come out. She 68 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: goes in her garden at least, and she races around that. 69 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: But we've yet to put a lead on her and 70 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: take her out. We tried that the very first day. 71 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: She dug her heels in. She wouldn't move. She dies 72 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: behind the sofa and stayed there. 73 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: And I know that. You know, there's footage of her 74 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: coming out to take a small piece of cheese. And 75 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: that's and I said to my husband, Sophie's taken some cheese. 76 00:03:58,800 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: And he goes, WHOA. 77 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: People on the other side of the world a cheering 78 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: because she's taken a piece of cheese. But do you 79 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: think do you think she'll get there? 80 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Oh? God, I hope. 81 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: I mean. 82 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she will. It's just we're taking advice 83 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: from a dog behavior. It's to saying you can't rush this, 84 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: You've got to go at her pace. She's gradually learning 85 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: the trusice. She's better with my wife than me. The 86 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: trouble is my wife is a professor in Cambridge. She's 87 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: away the first three days of the week. We're Sophie 88 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: and I are home alone at the moment, and she 89 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: is right now behind the sofa. She came out for 90 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of steak. I had I add a 91 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: steak to my dinner and left the plate by the sofa. 92 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: She came out, snaffled the steak and back behind the sofa. 93 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: But she she has over the weekend. She actually got 94 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: came out during the evening and was quite playful. She 95 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: found the bed that she still reviewses to sleep on. 96 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: She found a toy and took it away and ripped 97 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: it up so that we were encouraged by that. That 98 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: was you know, that was brave Sophie. 99 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: Well there you go, and the irony Sophie from the sofa. 100 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 2: That's good Sophie from the behind the sofa. And even 101 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: though Sophie isn't, you're not having an experience that you imagined. 102 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: Has it been an extraordinary time? 103 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: It has been this straory timing. It's actually been an 104 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: emotional royal coaster. I found myself. I don't sleep very 105 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: well anyway. I've got parking either. One of the symptoms 106 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: of that is not not good sleep. But I have 107 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: been waking at four am and worrying about my dog, 108 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: which is not good, you know, worrying about if she 109 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: gets sick, how would I get her to the vat 110 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: when we can't even get a lead on her, you 111 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: know how, how are we going to frankly go away 112 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: on holiday because we can't leave her with anybody because 113 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: she's so painfully shy. 114 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: Well still, she'd be behind the catch though, so that 115 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: wouldn't be a bad true, that would be easy. It's 116 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: not like Cooja, not like Sophie's a savage dogs and 117 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: the journey is great. You can check it out. You're 118 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: on Instagram. Follow Rory on Instagram at Rory Skellon Jones 119 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: and on Twitter at Ruskin one four seven. Rory, thank 120 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: you for joining us. 121 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: Thank you, it's been great. 122 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Rory. 123 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: It's hard to Saphie for us. 124 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: It's three to seven. 125 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful story.