Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast.
Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, we spoke about Roman Empire core.
Speaker 1: How like you've heard it already. Apparently straight men or
Speaker 1: just men in general think about the Roman Empire heaps,
Speaker 1: and it was baffling to a lot of people. But
Speaker 1: then I did some self reflection and realized that Britney
Speaker 1: Spis is my Roman Empire. I think about it all
Speaker 1: the time. At the time, I didn't even realize that
Speaker 1: she was my screen safer. You can see the video
Speaker 1: on Frooms with three o's. Anyway, after I posted that
Speaker 1: very successful fifty thousand view video, I got a DAN
Speaker 1: from a woman called Ellen. She writes frooms and it's
Speaker 1: just two oh, so you know she's a true fan.
Speaker 1: Sorry for the caps, but I think I solved the
Speaker 1: universal female equivalent of the Roman Empire. The marriage wedding process.
Speaker 2: Whoa she writes.
Speaker 1: So this involves thinking about thinking about getting engaged, thinking
Speaker 1: about what your wedding might look like, pop culture and
Speaker 1: celebrity weddings, celebrity divorce and relationship changes, gossip about weddings,
Speaker 1: either of friends you've been to or seen on social.
Speaker 3: The whole cinematic universe is matrimonya because now that makes
Speaker 3: a lot more sense.
Speaker 2: I said, weddings, surely not.
Speaker 1: Okay, if your anti marriage and all that entails, Yes,
Speaker 1: she goes on, I would hazard. I guess that women
Speaker 1: would think about marriage in some form or another in
Speaker 1: the same range as men think about the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2: Eg.
Speaker 1: Some all the bloody time and others maybe not at all.
Speaker 3: Isn't it ironic because like, women didn't really have rights
Speaker 3: in the Roman Empire, so that didn't marry you to
Speaker 3: like be considered people, and then women are thinking about marriage.
Speaker 2: It's in sync.
Speaker 1: Honestly. Yeah, it's quite poetic. Said thanks for coming to
Speaker 1: my ted talk, and I said, thank you for giving
Speaker 1: me content, thank you for my brain or show queen incredible. Okay,
Speaker 1: So all growing up, I can't decide if I was
Speaker 1: a really girly girl or not. It's so hard to
Speaker 1: tell because you were funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so's like she's probably a tomboy.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, she was probably a tombo growing up, but
Speaker 1: I think I was curler.
Speaker 3: I was just what you've shown me is your adolescents.
Speaker 3: You seemed quite hyper fam.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely maybe like when I
Speaker 1: was a little baby, like toddler vibes, a bit grubby,
Speaker 1: like I had horrible hair, like the thinnest hair, it's
Speaker 1: little fuzzy, like I wasn't giving like classical girly vibes.
Speaker 2: But you're also a toddlers a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: I just wasn't servenge when you could.
Speaker 2: Dress yourself and be a sentient person.
Speaker 1: Then we started to eat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yes, you've always been a girly girl. Please
Speaker 2: continue to see the gay.
Speaker 1: The one thing that I always thought about with weddings
Speaker 1: was how I might have said this on the podcast
Speaker 1: before Bama repeated how embarrassing, deeply embarrassing it would be
Speaker 1: to have to kiss someone at the end of the
Speaker 1: aisle in front of my parents.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the way this actually ate.
Speaker 1: Me alive and keep me up at night, Like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to kiss someone in front of my parents,
Speaker 1: And even now I think about if I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: a wedding, I'm literally thinking about the kiss, kissing someone
Speaker 1: I haven't even thought that I don't. Yeah, babe, let
Speaker 1: it keep you up. I believe in no PDA around parents,
Speaker 1: Like every time that I've had someone over, like, don't
Speaker 1: touch my knee. Yeah, but like we're friends, truly, are
Speaker 1: you the same? Get off me?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's real appropriate. But to be fair, because I
Speaker 3: love PDA generally. I think it's fun and funny, okay,
Speaker 3: But so much about wedding culture I find really cringey
Speaker 3: only because of my relationship to attention. I like feeling
Speaker 3: like I've earned my attention, so I did something with
Speaker 3: merit that warranted an applause, or I put a lot
Speaker 3: of effort into how I look, therefore you can acknowledge
Speaker 3: it and say you look good. Or I put a
Speaker 3: lot of effort into articulating or deciding what I feel,
Speaker 3: so when you commend me on.
Speaker 2: That, that feels right. Okay.
Speaker 3: But what I don't like is like I don't like
Speaker 3: hosting a birthday party because I feel like I'm pulling
Speaker 3: everybody here under duress against their will to ceprate. Weddings
Speaker 3: feel like an amplified version of that, because in my experience,
Speaker 3: a lot of the intimacy you share in relationships is private.
Speaker 3: You know, like when you're really building with someone, it's private.
Speaker 3: The conversations you have to get there, the romance, all
Speaker 3: of that stuff. It's all private and then you have
Speaker 3: a wedding and it's amplified times one thousand in the
Speaker 3: most stereotypical way that lacks any kind of flavor. Most weddings,
Speaker 3: I'm not even trying to be shady, are copies and
Speaker 3: paste of the last wedding. I don't think I've observed
Speaker 3: or been to any wedding that felt truly so unique
Speaker 3: and a proper representation of the people being married.
Speaker 2: Wow, and that's my issue.
Speaker 3: You're going to go there do cosplay performance art of
Speaker 3: your love and I don't know if it's a thing
Speaker 3: that you experience, but when people really try and show
Speaker 3: you that they're in love, it feels like they're trying
Speaker 3: to conceal something out. I'm like, maybe you guys really
Speaker 3: hate each other, because this can't be real.
Speaker 2: I believe you. It's enough.
Speaker 3: A paragraph vows to me seems so intimate that I
Speaker 3: don't know why you'd want to do that in front
Speaker 3: of strangers. If I'm really looking at the person that
Speaker 3: I think that I love so much that I'm trying
Speaker 3: to merge our lives together in the most permanent way possible,
Speaker 3: I don't want to tell that really intimate story of
Speaker 3: when I knew.
Speaker 1: That's true, but like I think, when you love someone
Speaker 1: so much you want to share it, there's like this
Speaker 1: desire to like hard post vibes absolutely launch.
Speaker 3: There definitely is a desire to hard launch, but you
Speaker 3: recognize I feel like weddings are really good at recognizing
Speaker 3: the superficiality of love, but not the stuff that the
Speaker 3: real stuff, like the the blood, sweat and tears type
Speaker 3: vibe of love when it's like, Okay, we didn't actually
Speaker 3: just like roll over and decide that we're good partners.
Speaker 3: It actually took a bit of conflict to get here,
Speaker 3: and so I feel like weddings don't acknowledge that. And
Speaker 3: I feel like that's why the divorce rate is so high,
Speaker 3: because people really start buying the lies they're selling to
Speaker 3: curate this perfect wedding. I know a ton of people
Speaker 3: who are really embarrassed by their ring, embarrassed by the
Speaker 3: way they were proposed to, embarrassed by the trials and
Speaker 3: tribulations they had to get to to get to the
Speaker 3: point of marriage, and pretend those things don't exist when
Speaker 3: it comes time to having a wedding, because it doesn't
Speaker 3: suit the narrative, and for the first six months you're
Speaker 3: on the high of the fairy tale. It's like the
Speaker 3: honeymoon stage times too, but in this period, it's not
Speaker 3: just you and your partner trying to make sure you're
Speaker 3: keeping the story straight. You've gone and showed you're one
Speaker 3: hundred nearest and dearest, how solid you are, and so
Speaker 3: now when the facade starts showing, it's it's worse because
Speaker 3: everyone's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: I saw you you.
Speaker 1: So love And that's what I think after weddings when
Speaker 1: someone breaks up after I'm like, wait, but you guys,
Speaker 1: legit seems so happy.
Speaker 3: Exactly because that's what was caught of you for the moment,
Speaker 3: and you're a performer. For me, I'm a performer. What
Speaker 3: do we do when it's time to perform? We can't
Speaker 3: get in a room without doing cheat chats. Literally, you know,
Speaker 3: we can't even help ourselves. So imagine a wedding where
Speaker 3: you put your hair in your makeup. You've spent ninety
Speaker 3: k to get this down. You think I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: put on a shine.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's why I need for the sake of myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm seeing like, Okay, the City Hall wedding has
Speaker 1: really had a moment recently with like especially like the
Speaker 1: woman in a suit type of viable, like the mini
Speaker 1: dress moment, which I love.
Speaker 2: I love it all. Personally, I wouldn't be wearing a
Speaker 2: mini dress.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna wear like Yeah, redacted.
Speaker 3: That's I've got more to say. Speeches mostly so lame again.
Speaker 3: You've got people who aren't good public speakers coming up
Speaker 3: taking a copy and pasted Pinterest speech.
Speaker 2: And they've done it before and they'll do it again.
Speaker 3: Or they tell the most embarrassing story that makes you
Speaker 3: look like a wilderbeast person making jokes at your expense
Speaker 3: on your big day.
Speaker 2: Hate it not on the big seating arrangements.
Speaker 3: The amount of times I feel as though I've observed
Speaker 3: people do seating arrangements and the logic behind, Oh, you
Speaker 3: take your most social friend and put them on the
Speaker 3: table with your most friends.
Speaker 2: Don't do that. Everybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody loses in that scenari everybody loses.
Speaker 3: You know, don't make people mingle based on what you
Speaker 3: perceive to be their strengths and weaknesses. Put them with
Speaker 3: people they know.
Speaker 1: Let them mingle on the d floor hundred percent, but
Speaker 1: don't create co mingling.
Speaker 3: Pre getting to know each other, so that sucks. Also
Speaker 3: when you've got bridesmaids and groomsmen. So let's say, for example,
Speaker 3: your you have eight friends, and so you have eight bridesmaids,
Speaker 3: but your partner doesn't have a lot of friends. So
Speaker 3: now you got Now your partner has to go find
Speaker 3: seven more friends.
Speaker 2: You have to so it's equal for the photos. Are
Speaker 2: you kidding?
Speaker 1: In that instance, you have to say sorry, you can
Speaker 1: only have the same amount as me. That's that's what
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: But I'm really excited to see and experienced weddings that
Speaker 3: feel like a really beautiful reflection of the people getting
Speaker 3: married from not just from the music, not just from
Speaker 3: their aesthetics, but the way they choose to do love
Speaker 3: because it's all feeling like talent show pageant. I really
Speaker 3: enjoyed getting that out. Thank you so much your.
Speaker 2: Mum doing speech. I don't want any speeches. WHOA really,
Speaker 2: I really don't.
Speaker 3: If you have something to tell me, I would love
Speaker 3: to hear it one on one. I would love take
Speaker 3: me out for dinner and then talk to me and say, like,
Speaker 3: this is really awesome. I'd love to see how you've evolved.
Speaker 3: I'd love to see how you've grown. I don't need
Speaker 3: the collapse of everybody else observing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, all right, I guess I won't be called
Speaker 1: up then for a little comedy roast at your wedding.
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