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Speaker 1: Get a.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional

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Speaker 2: overshare us. This podcast is all about celebrating failure because

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Speaker 2: I believe it's a chance for us to learn, grow

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Speaker 2: and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a

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Speaker 2: different guest about their highs as well as their lows,

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Speaker 2: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome to the pod today.

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Speaker 2: This episode is a little bit of a rework episode

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Speaker 2: because the wonderful actor Travis Jeffrey has already been on

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Speaker 2: the pod before, but recently he played one of the

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Speaker 2: leads in Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.

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Speaker 3: You might have seen it. It's been out for a

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks now in.

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Speaker 2: Australia, all over the world America, and I wrote to

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Speaker 2: Trav and I was like, hey, are you cool if

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Speaker 2: I re released this episode? The episode you're about to

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Speaker 2: hear because he's got this incredible career. He's been on

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Speaker 2: Pirates of the Caribbean, Angelia and Jolly is Unbroken, and

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Speaker 2: he's always He's that kind of like quintessential working actor.

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Speaker 3: It feels like he's always working.

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Speaker 2: And he goes, yeah, of course you can release that

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Speaker 2: episode if you want, but we can also have a

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Speaker 2: new chat. It's been four years since we spoke on

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Speaker 2: the pod, so we did just that and that will

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Speaker 2: be next week's episode. But this week's episode has got

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Speaker 2: so many gems in it. I was also very new

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Speaker 2: in my acting training as well, so I was asking

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Speaker 2: all these acting student kind of burning questions. So if

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Speaker 2: you are a creative, this episode is for you.

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Speaker 3: Trav.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for jumping back on the pod.

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Speaker 2: That episode is going to come out next Monday. But

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Speaker 2: this episode is the episode we recorded four years ago.

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Speaker 2: He was one of the first guests are in that

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Speaker 2: first kind of like one hundred game of feels be failing.

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Speaker 2: So I hope you the listener love this. We recorded

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Speaker 2: it in the middle of COVID, so it was recorded

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Speaker 2: on zoom, But yeah, I hope you love it. Trave

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Speaker 2: your legend, and I can't wait for next week's episode

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Speaker 2: and having you on the pod again. Big love, Hello,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to the podcast, Travis Jeffrey. I saw some

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Speaker 2: of the incredible work you've done and the body of

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Speaker 2: work of your career, and I'm like, WHOA got.

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Speaker 3: To speak to this guy?

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Speaker 2: So I wanted to have you here, and I really,

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Speaker 2: I really want to deep dive into your career a

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Speaker 2: bit about the process. And you've played quite differing roles

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Speaker 2: and some of them, some of them looked from the

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Speaker 2: outside really grueling on so many different levels.

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Speaker 3: So should we start with Unbroken?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, straight in, so I'm broken. That was an amazing experience.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of my first big gig out of

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Speaker 1: drama school, which was right, yeah, yeah, yeah, the Western

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Speaker 1: Australian Academy of Performing Arts which is in Perth. It's

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Speaker 1: really wonderful school. And yeah, so I graduated and I

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Speaker 1: had a couple of bit parts. I did did a

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Speaker 1: role on an Anzac Girls, which was a wonderful show,

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Speaker 1: and then got Unbroken, which just the yeah, the whole

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Speaker 1: experience was incredible. I was playing a Scottish prisoner of

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Speaker 1: war in World War two, so I had to drop

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Speaker 1: great experience. Straight out lost twenty kilos other two months.

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Speaker 3: Ye, because that's what I said.

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Speaker 2: I watched all the b roll stuff and a lot

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Speaker 2: of the behind the scenes and everybody looks proper emaciated.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, which is you know, it's not that

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Speaker 1: it's not the healthiest thing to do, but you really

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Speaker 1: want to honor these honor these men that win in

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Speaker 1: the camps. You know, like you've got to do do

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Speaker 1: And it was my as I said, first big role

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Speaker 1: was when Angelina Joe Lee directing, which is incredible. So

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Speaker 1: the motive, like, I found it quite easy. Like the

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Speaker 1: But it was the quietest set I've ever been on,

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Speaker 2: You know how many calories they got, you got you

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Speaker 1: So I was so throughout the audition process I started,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Victoria's secret models do before. They I've

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Speaker 2: heard them talk the same way. But in the behind

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Speaker 2: the scenes, there's a fair bit of footage of Angeline

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Speaker 3: Would you how was it like working with her?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, she's the I always really looked up to her

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Speaker 1: of them. But I met her and she was the

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Speaker 1: most down to her wonderful person. You know, she does

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Speaker 1: you know, for what you want the world to see.

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Speaker 1: But she was just completely genuine, down to earth and

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Speaker 1: a really great director, really good with communication, I guess

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Speaker 3: Where was it shot?

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Speaker 1: We shot a bunch of it was shot in Sydney, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: To flip that on its head, I've taught at a

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Speaker 1: I've found they've got some pretty good raves going on.

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Speaker 2: In But you know how you spoke about the energy

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Speaker 3: Could you feel some of that energy as well?

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Speaker 1: can always feel it, like people come in and they

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Speaker 1: really want to honor it, they really want to give

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Speaker 1: make a lot of great relationships. That's you know, one

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I watch an interview with the actor that

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Speaker 2: played is It the Bird?

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Speaker 2: But and he said after that, there was a really

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Speaker 3: There's a there's a lot of it feels like there's.

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Speaker 2: An undercurrent of and I imagine that's a pretty amazing

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Speaker 1: be incredibly confronting having to, yeah, just jump headfirst into

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Speaker 1: a role like that. It's pretty amazing first role to

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Speaker 2: And also for you coming straight out of Whopper and

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Speaker 2: being able to land something like that like that's pretty massive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. I just felt so lucky, it was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just to see how it works at the top,

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Speaker 1: top level, you know, like how it production? Is that

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Speaker 3: Long did the shoot go for for you?

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Speaker 1: I was I think they went for about three months.

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Speaker 1: I was on I was shooting for six weeks.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's I feel like that's still pretty solid.

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Speaker 1: It's for a lot of Australian productions I've worked on,

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Speaker 1: it's usually around four to six weeks, just because just

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Speaker 1: But I worked on Pirates a few years ago, which was.

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Speaker 3: My next That was my next question.

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Speaker 2: So I interviewed an actor on the show called michaylab

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Speaker 1: That's something that we always keep in mind. It's like,

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00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, we're going home to our hotel at the

438
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Speaker 1: end of the day. Our lives aren't hard, but they

439
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 1: make it easier for us to kind of get there

440
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: with the situations they put us in. So, yeah, going

441
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,719
Speaker 1: to Glibally to try and get a sense of that,

442
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 1: it was definitely. You know, you want to try and

443
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 1: act as little as possible, so the more information you

444
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: can get that gives you an understanding of what you're

445
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 1: about to do, the better. For me, I find did.

446
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 3: You have a dialect coach for that?

447
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 2: Because your accent was it felt so iconically Aussie, but

448
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,400
Speaker 2: also of the era.

449
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 3: The way listening to you speak.

450
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 1: Great now, I think that's just growing up on a farm.

451
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: I can't. I guess like as soon as you go, oh,

452
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: world War One, you kind of I guess you'd lean

453
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: into it a little bit. Yeah, you know, and it's

454
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 1: a fine balance because you don't want to sound like

455
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: you're taking a piss, you know, totally going to oker

456
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: and but I'm glad, thank you. That's good. Good to hear.

457
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 2: Also consuming you in spin Out as well, because you

458
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 2: paid the kind of like there's a like this, I

459
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: guess to your charactersparait he kind of felt like soft and.

460
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Speaker 3: Sweet, but he also felt very Australiana.

461
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so that was the same sort We shot

462
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Speaker 1: that out in Shepherd, which is a few hours away

463
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Speaker 1: from where I grew up, So I kind of felt

464
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: very comfortable there. And you know, I I've met a

465
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: lot of people like Sparrow and you go, oh, that's

466
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 1: the kind of guy is and yeah, so just get

467
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: a lot of fun.

468
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 3: Though that looks like a lot of fun.

469
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: That was amazing. That's that's still one of my favorite shoots,

470
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: I guess because of how fun it was. Like I've

471
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: got the shoots that I find the most satisfying, you know,

472
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: like Gallipoli and Danger Close and those sort of things,

473
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: but in terms of how much fun we had, like

474
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 1: we're all put up in the same kind of hotel

475
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: complex in Shepherd and and a lot of the extras

476
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: were locals. They just like put out a Facebook post

477
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: and go come made up B and S ball and

478
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: so we made mates with a lot of those guys

479
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: and still keep in contact and we were down at

480
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: the local pub every Friday night with them, and yeah,

481
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: so it was just a really really lovely vibe and

482
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: we all got really close, which which you want which

483
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: shows on screen? I think? And yeah, that was a

484
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: lot of fun. And getting to play Spurrow, who is

485
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 1: just like the biggest sweetheart, It was just a lot

486
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: of fun. It was great.

487
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, your character felt very lovable.

488
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, kind of like the like sort of the

489
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: dost best friend. Yeah, it gets himself in these situations

490
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: that you don't know how he did that, but sometime

491
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: comes out the other side.

492
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Speaker 2: I actually found a video on YouTube of you giving

493
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Speaker 2: tips for actors.

494
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you know that I study

495
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: acting at the moment.

496
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: In yeah, yeah, yeah, and.

497
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 2: It's rare that actors kind of share their tips. I

498
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: know this sounds like a weird thing, but it feels

499
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 2: like something quite sacred and I kind of understand that

500
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 2: as well. But I saw a video of you on

501
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 2: YouTube and it was like tip tips for actors, and

502
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 2: I was like, man, these are tips for life.

503
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Speaker 3: Can you remember these tips?

504
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: I remember shooting the video. I don't remember the pearls

505
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: of wisdom that I will relate.

506
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: So number one was b U and I'm.

507
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I think that to another thing with acting.

508
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: We think we have to put something on and and

509
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: and be something we're not. The next one is my favorite,

510
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: and that was work hard. And I think that a

511
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 2: lot of people think when they see an actor, oh wow,

512
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: they've just got to learn lines and memorize lines. And

513
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: it's like, I feel like that is like the tip

514
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: of the iceberg.

515
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 3: You know.

516
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: One of my teachers is Ian Sinclair, who's he's like

517
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: quite a big theater director in Australia.

518
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

519
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he says that's the most common question they get.

520
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: Asked, like learn those lines?

521
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he goes, if only people knew, you know,

522
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: like all the work that someone does. And at school,

523
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: like the motto of the school, you'll hear like walking

524
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: down the corridors as you're training for the Olympics, Yeah,

525
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: treat this like you're training of the Olympics. And I'm

526
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: a pretty hard worker by nature, but I was like, yeah, whoa.

527
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: And one thing that I've wondered about is like, if

528
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: you're going in for an audition. How often, I'm sorry,

529
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 2: how much preparation time do you often get with sides?

530
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: So when they deliver your audition piece and they're like,

531
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: here's your five pages of sides, you've got a self

532
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: tape or whatever, how what's that window of time?

533
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: Like? It usually can be anywhere between a couple of

534
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: days to a week or so. They are not long

535
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: usually no, But it's kind of good in some ways

536
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: where you because I think one of my biggest things,

537
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people's biggest it's just

538
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: overthinking it. So it's good to just kind of like

539
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: do the prep that you need to do and then

540
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: just get in there and do it. And one of

541
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: the biggest lessons I learned, and that was one of

542
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: the tips that you brought up, was it takes so

543
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: much pressure off when you when you can be yourself.

544
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: Because when I left drama school, you know, doing Gallipoli

545
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: and that sort of stuff, it's like, I'm an actor.

546
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: I will act at my pants off in every situation. Yeah,

547
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: but one of the greatest things I've ever heard is

548
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 1: that you will never be a more interesting actor than

549
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: you are a person. Yeah, And that's who they want

550
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: to cast, Like, you go in there and they'll see

551
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 1: you being yourself, adding whatever you want to what interests

552
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: you to the role, your version of the role, and

553
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: that's that's why you'll be cast. You'll never be cast

554
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: because you do what you think their version of the

555
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: role is.

556
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: And then and the next point was actually you said audition,

557
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: and you said, like, often you'll read something it's like, well,

558
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 2: this character is seven foot tall and really baff or

559
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: something that you think that you're not and often doing

560
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: that audition might mean that you get called in for

561
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: the next.

562
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're always kind of auditioning for the next one,

563
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: you know. So you go in there and you do

564
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: the best that you can and you might not be

565
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: right for it, but you might be right for the

566
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: next one. And that's happened to me a couple of

567
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: times with when I was in drama school. I was

568
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: lucky enough to audition for Squeeze Tailor for Thunderbelly series

569
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: and I got very close to playing playing him. And

570
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: that was in my third year of drama school. So

571
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,959
Speaker 1: that was sible experience getting flown, you know, back and

572
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: forth and get a taste of the audition process. And

573
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: then I missed out on that one, but then Anzac

574
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: Girls came along through that and then Gallipoli and yeah,

575
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: so it's always yeah, it's you know, it's really heartbreaking

576
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: and we're talking about failure and stuff, and you know,

577
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: when you don't get a role, it can feel like failure.

578
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: But you know, as long as you take you learn

579
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: something from every experience, it's not a failure, is it?

580
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: So totally you can't. It takes a long time to

581
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: kind of build up that resilience, I guess, and not

582
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: taking things personally and knowing that it is you're getting

583
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: better with every experience rather than I have to nail

584
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: every audition, I have to get every job. It's like, no, no,

585
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: this is making me a better actor than a human totally.

586
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: And one thing I've learned at drama school is these

587
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: styles of humans are really good at beating themselves up anyway.

588
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's why we do it.

589
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like going easy on yourself because there's

590
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: an element of also like trusting and throwing caution to

591
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 4: the wind and kind of going I've done the work,

592
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 4: let's just let it fly now, you know.

593
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and yeah, something that took me so long

594
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: to I guess to know that it was okay to do,

595
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: and I guess to work up the courage to do

596
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 1: was to take risks and to know it might not

597
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: be perfect. You might not nail it every time, I think,

598
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: especially in Australia, and I guess it's everywhere like there's

599
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: not a lot of money, so you feel like you

600
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: have to be perfect or you're not going to get

601
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: the role. You feel like you can't do anything that

602
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: interests you, you can't put your own little flare on

603
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: it because that might ruin your chances for next time.

604
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: So I've gotten to the point where I'm really enjoying

605
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: doing things that adding what I want to add to

606
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: these roles. And you know, with Bloody Hell got to

607
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: learn finish and play twins.

608
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: And on the trailer it looks so so it's like

609
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: comedy and.

610
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: Horror, right, yes? Yeah?

611
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: And so was it shot in Australia even though it's

612
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: American accents?

613
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: Yes, so that was shot. Yeah, So that was shot

614
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: in Queensland as well, since studios up there.

615
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: How long did that take to shoot?

616
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: That was about six weeks? I think now a couple

617
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: of weeks.

618
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 3: I know, I'm asking really random questions.

619
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: But it's just so nice that you're so open and

620
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: it's so fascinating to hear the bts of it that

621
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: we often don't have access to.

622
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't mind sharing anything.

623
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: No, I think that's a superpower. I love it.

624
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: On your list as well, you said like be respectful.

625
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: And I think in this world there is a bit

626
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: of ego, and you touched on it when you were

627
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: talking about working with Angelina Joli and how she was.

628
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: You hear like people that are of that level.

629
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: Of success can often be dickheads, but she was the

630
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: opposite by the.

631
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: Sounds of the Yeah.

632
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, I get where you're bringing the b respectful

633
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: point out. But do you find there are egos in

634
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: this industry?

635
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: Look in Australia most of the time there's a pretty

636
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: like blanket no dickhead rule policy, which is awesome because

637
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: we just don't have time, you know, and for the

638
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: crew and it's too hot, like chewing, it's too hard,

639
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: it's so everything, Like you don't want to rock up

640
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 1: and have to do your job and then deal with

641
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: someone like that as well, Like of course you people

642
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: there are people like that. But I think I think

643
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: everything's changing like I don't think that's as tolerated as Yeah,

644
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: I think we're past the era of mega super movie stars.

645
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: Like you know, you'll get them, they'll pop up, but like,

646
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: if you don't want to work with somebody, you're not

647
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: going to get them back. And I think that's yeah,

648
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: and I think that's where a big like these are. Yeah,

649
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: these are people who don't treat I think, don't treat

650
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: everybody with the respect that is a like on one

651
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: thing that I always try to do is treat everybody

652
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: on set with the same amount of respect as I

653
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: treat my mum. Like That's something I always tell the

654
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: younger actors. It's like, you know, pick up your clothes

655
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: in the in the costume room, like, don't leave shit

656
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: line around, don't. Yeah, just be nice, Like everybody's job

657
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: is just as important as yours. Any actor who thinks

658
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: they're the most important person on sets not a you know,

659
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: not doing it for the right reasons.

660
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: Totally.

661
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: Again, it comes back to this list of like I

662
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: feel like this is a like a life hack list,

663
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: not just for actions. And my favorite one, well, I

664
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: know I've got a few favorites, but I love that

665
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: expect nothing appreciate everything.

666
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's powerful.

667
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: If you go in without expectation, then everything's a bonus.

668
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think that ties into taking taking away

669
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: from every opportunity, like take you know, make sure you

670
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: learn something. Just appreciate everything that you've got. It's not like,

671
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: oh I missed that I didn't get that role because

672
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm not good. It's like, well, I didn't get the role,

673
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: but I learn a bunch doing it. And I think

674
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: jumping back to people, you know that people on when

675
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: you come across these people on set, it's usually people

676
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: who are quite entitled. They're like, yep, I should be here.

677
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm meant to be here. I deserve to be here.

678
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: Like obviously, if you've done the work and you've earned it,

679
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: you deserve to be there. But I think, yeah, expecting

680
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: nothing takes that pressure off. Yeah, in auditions and roles

681
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, I'm just going to go in there,

682
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: do my best. Probably nothing will come from it, like

683
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: the ninety five percent with the other ones when nothing

684
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: comes from it. But if something does, great.

685
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's then a great attitude to have.

686
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when it does happen, it's even better.

687
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

688
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: Oh well that was unexpected, totally.

689
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so your next project is Bloody how which we

690
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: just touched on.

691
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: So that's out the eighth of October, is that right?

692
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: Yes, all over Australia except Victoria, I think at the moment,

693
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: so we'll see. Yeah, So hopefully i'll start plugging some

694
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: stuff soon when the trailer it's released and have some

695
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: more info. And but yeah, eighth of October.

696
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: Awesome.

697
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: And so you play Finish Twins, right I do?

698
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: Yes?

699
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: How on earth did you go with learning a Finish accent?

700
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: It was very difficult and I didn't I didn't have

701
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: to learn a Finnish accent. I just had to learn

702
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: Finish so I don't speak any English.

703
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: Oh wow, amazing.

704
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: So that was a really interesting Like I always loved

705
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: to challenge myself, but this was a particular one that

706
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: I may have almost pushed it a little bit too far.

707
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: I was doing a play at the time of auditioning

708
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: where I had to learn Italian.

709
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: Like proper Italian as well, like not an accent.

710
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: Oh wow, no, like yeah, learning learning so it was

711
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: just as fast, this really fun sort of fast comedy

712
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: where I had to learn a whole bunch of Italian

713
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: for it, and then this audition came through and I

714
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, I can learn a finish accent,

715
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: great box trying to learn Italian, and my brain just

716
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: started to just get packed. And then I did it

717
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: and got a call back and they're like, no, no, it's

718
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: in finish, can you can you learn? You just learn

719
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: all this finish and I was my brain was about

720
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: to explode. And I remember my final callback. It was

721
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: just a self tape, which means you just do it

722
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: at home, send it off. And I just come back

723
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 1: from a huge day of rehearsals and they sent through

724
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: the finish and like you're playing it and Emma, the

725
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: accent and dialect coach, you know, she was speaking the

726
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: finish and it's so fast and it's so tricky, and

727
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: my brain was broken, and I was like, oh, this

728
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: might be the first time I ever have to pull

729
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: out of doing an audition. And then I was like, no,

730
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: I'll just I don't think there's going to be any

731
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: benefit to wait. Let's just do it now. So I

732
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: went downstairs. Nobody was home, so I had to do

733
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: the audition by myself, and I just wrote the finish phonetically,

734
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: which is just writing the sounds up and sticky tape

735
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: them around the room. I was doing these scenes just

736
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: reading a little bits and pieces, and that's the only

737
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: way I could get through. And then later I edited

738
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: my housemate's voice into the edition, so it sounded like

739
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: I had somebody there with me. And it's really interesting.

740
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: I think what what got me the role is that

741
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: I edited. I used Ironmovie and edited myself in twice,

742
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: so I had one side of the camera and then

743
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: the other side of the camera, so it looked it

744
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: looked like I was twins. And really I find twins,

745
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: I found out later just just for time and money restrictions,

746
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: and they were really struggling. So when that audition came through,

747
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: they're like great, yes, and then they realized that I

748
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: was just one person.

749
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: Oh wow, So when you shot that, did they because

750
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: you're obviously playing twins, do you have to shoot it twice?

751
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: Like?

752
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 3: How does it work shooting?

753
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

754
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 3: Twins?

755
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: So it's always been a dream. I think it's every

756
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: actor's dream to play twins. And I was really interested

757
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: in the process and I was like, Oh, great, that's

758
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: gonna be so cool. There's gonna you know, there's going

759
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: to be heaps of time to like transition between characters,

760
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: and because I tried to make the characters as different

761
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: as possible, because you know, on paper, I think what

762
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: they wanted to go or in the beginning it was

763
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: kind of like those you know horror movie twins where

764
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: it's like they move in sync and you know, they speak.

765
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: But I was like, how can I turn that on

766
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: its head and do the most opposite thing possible? So

767
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: I made them very different.

768
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: Oh cool?

769
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So on set, I was like, great, this is

770
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: gonna be a really cool process. And you know, being

771
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: Australian film and I'm sure it's on every film, there's

772
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: no time. So I'd finished one twin and I'm like, hey,

773
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: you know where the costume place is, run to it,

774
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: get changed, come back and do it, you know. But

775
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: everybody was supportive and that it can be with costume

776
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: and and make up and the director and the producers.

777
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: But it was just like, we don't have time, let's

778
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: just do it now. So it was good and it

779
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: was a really great lesson of being able to just

780
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: like go, okay, well I don't have time to overthink this,

781
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: just just do it.

782
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah in the moment.

783
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think really helped, you know, help the

784
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: performance in parts. And yeah, but yeah, sorry. How they

785
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: do do it is a lot of the time they

786
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: just shoot. When the film does come out and you'll

787
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: see it is that they shoot like two sides of

788
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: the camera, so as one twin will be on the

789
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: right right and then you know, on the left for

790
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: the other and then they can just split screen. It

791
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: kind of how I did did it in the audition,

792
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: but a lot more complicated.

793
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: I can't wait. I can't wait to see this now.

794
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: I'm very excited.

795
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of fun. And I got to

796
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: see it a few weeks ago in Queensland with cast

797
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: and crew screening and it's great. It's awesome. It's so

798
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: much fun. I think people are really going to love it.

799
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: And it's like it's a pretty niche sort of area,

800
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: but I think it's fun for everybody.

801
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 3: And we need fun right now too. It's a perfect time.

802
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, do you have any dreams of like and

803
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 2: I know this is a really weird time to ask

804
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: this because of all the COVID stuff, but do you

805
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: have any dreams of heading overseas and pursuing your career

806
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: over there?

807
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: Because You've done so much in Australia.

808
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think absolutely. I think most actors do just

809
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: because it's a bigger pool. There's more work, you know,

810
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: there's more money for these productions, so they're kind of

811
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: a grander scale. And I love living in Australia so much,

812
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: so if I can keep working here forever, I would,

813
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: But I definitely would. I'm working on my visa application

814
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: at the moment and stuff like that that it is

815
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: so full.

816
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: I just got my green card, dude, congratulations.

817
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: It has been a three year process process.

818
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm at the beginning. So great, I'll see

819
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: you in three years. Yeah, but it's full on, it's

820
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: full on, like absolutely, definitely open to that. But I've

821
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: started to try and and I think COVID's really pushed

822
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: me to do this, take take the reins a little

823
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: bit more on my career and my trajectory. So I've

824
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: started writing a lot.

825
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: You've directed to haven't you?

826
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: Sort of men to mate, just made a short film

827
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: for called Punapple Island. No, it is something I'd really

828
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: be keen to move into, but at the moment, just

829
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: kind of using this downtime to focus on writing and

830
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: kind of upskilling and learning. The producer sort of wrote,

831
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: and so, I mean, a friend have got a film

832
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: that I've written that we're hoping to shooting, like Super

833
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: Indian in January December kind of time, which is cool.

834
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: What's that called?

835
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: That's it's a working title. The monment's called unsaid oh coldment.

836
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: But it's been a very loose process. So it's kind

837
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: of one of those films where it's like it will

838
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: name itself shoot.

839
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: I write books, and usually you have a writing I'm

840
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 2: writing a book at the moment, and you have a

841
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: working title for like nearly the whole manuscript, and it's

842
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: not till like the last month or so that they're.

843
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: Like, all right, let's go with this title.

844
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's normal.

845
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: It's interesting that you say that you're interested in producing

846
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: as well, because I kind of.

847
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: Feel like directing, writing, acting.

848
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: I feel like that's there's similarities, whereas I feel like

849
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: producing that's like a completely different skill set.

850
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think it's more just an awareness of

851
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: how it all works is what I'm really interested in,

852
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: because that like the more you understand on set, and

853
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: that's kind of whenever I chat to younger actors, is

854
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: is you know, just when you get on set, just

855
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: pay attention to as many people as possible. And the way,

856
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, if you understand how it works, you can

857
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: make it a smoother process for everybody else. And with

858
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: time and that sort of stuff. You know, if you

859
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: know how to lighting guys work, and you know how

860
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: sound all works and when you should be places and

861
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: what they need to do and what's stressing the producers

862
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: out and that sort of stuff. So, yeah, directing and

863
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: writing would probably be more of an avenue I'd follow fully,

864
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: but producing it, it's just kind of helping produce this film.

865
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of learning as much as I can

866
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: about it. And yeah, and at such.

867
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 2: A young age, like that's pretty young to be playing

868
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: with producing as well, I.

869
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: Reckon, Yeah, it just it's kind of yeah, And I

870
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: think I was heading that way anyway. I'd started writing

871
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: at the start of the year before everything sort of

872
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: shut down, which was really good. I think if everything

873
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: shut down and I hadn't started writing, I might not

874
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: have been in the swing of it. And I go, no,

875
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything for this, you know, because there

876
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: was such a lot of pressure on everybody, and I

877
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: think people were feeling the pressure of like, oh, there's

878
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: nothing to do. What should I now? I've got time

879
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: to do all these really amazing things, which is horrible

880
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: pressure to put on people. But I was lucky that

881
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: i'd started earlier, so I was kind of in the

882
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: swing of it. So it was something that I always

883
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of move into. But having the time

884
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: that with shutdown and everything, yeah, just has given me

885
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: time to just. Yeah. Absolutely, I wanted to try and

886
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: always make it as productive as possible and just learn,

887
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: learn something throughout this time.

888
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: Totally, it sounds like you've nailed that, dude.

889
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: She sounds like you've done.

890
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: Can I ask?

891
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 2: And I know you've already done so many awesome things.

892
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: What would be like a bucket list goal kind of

893
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: dream working for you that you haven't ticked off yet?

894
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: Like HBO is always an incredible, incredible show. I was

895
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: really lucky I did an AMC show. I did The

896
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: Preacher a couple of years ago, so that was a yeah,

897
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: so HBO. But what I really like, I'm a huge

898
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 1: Pixar fan. I just think Pixar is the best thing

899
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: in the world, and I think they're so smart, Like

900
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: working with kids in my part time job. Like, I

901
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: think what Pixarre have done really well is just being

902
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: able to get through to kids and adults at the

903
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: same time, really hard issues. Yeah, so like i'd love

904
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: to I'd love to voice a Pixar films.

905
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, big time. I reckon that'd be epic.

906
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: So and you've got that full I remember it the

907
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: first time I saw Happy Feet. I don't know if

908
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: that's Pixar or not, but I remember Steve Irwin was

909
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: voice as like a wallrus or something, and I was like,

910
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: oh my god, life goal.

911
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: I want to be a voice.

912
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so.

913
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 3: Good, Thank you so much. It has gone so fast.

914
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to end with I know a lot of.

915
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: My kind of like classmates will be listening to this

916
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 2: with very eager ears. And I sent to my partner

917
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: we're working on Tennessee Williams at the moment, and I

918
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: sent him your my scene partner, your show real and he's.

919
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god. So we're all very We're all.

920
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: In our infancy about kind of like yeah, journey, and

921
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: I just if you've got any advice for people that

922
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 2: are studying acting or even just a creative person that's

923
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: kind of like Oh, this is kind of something I

924
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: want to explore.

925
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: What would it be?

926
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a really big lesson that I've learned

927
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: is to not take yourself too seriously. Really be flexible

928
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: with everything you do, Like it's great that you guys

929
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: are studying, like you're already taking a first step, Like

930
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: you always have to do the work. Over the last

931
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: few years, I've really learned that experience is what you

932
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: get paid in as an actor. Like, you know, we're

933
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: not in it to be rich because none of us

934
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: are going to be rich, you know, in Australia unless

935
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: you're you know, a megastar. So being okay with doing

936
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: free short films you know, do is free play. Re

937
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: Just always keep working because that's how you're going to grow.

938
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: And a lot of a lot of the films that

939
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: I've worked on, I've come from doing short films with

940
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: producers that I've become friends with and they just kind

941
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: of snowball and so, you know, you always have to

942
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: have pride in your work, but don't be too proud.

943
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: Don't be like, no, I'm an actor, I won't work

944
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: in a cafe. I want I want to do things

945
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: for free because that's what we are when you know,

946
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: glorified baristas. You know, I'm worked in a cafe for

947
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 1: so long, poured so many beers, work at a daycare

948
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: now to pay rent in between gigs. You know, I

949
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: think there's a bit of a stigma with with actors.

950
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you know, we've got to be these

951
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: clamorous sort of things. And it's not like it's not glamorous.

952
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun and it's amazing, but you've

953
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: got to be okay with putting in the work. And

954
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: sometimes the work won't be acting work, just be pouring

955
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: a beer so you can pay rent and pay for

956
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: your classes and yeah, so just be open to everything.

957
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. Thank you so much, my pleasure.

958
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a total total honor to have you

959
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: on and you've shared so much of your heart with

960
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 2: us and your journey. I cannot wait to keep following

961
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: your journey because I am just yet You've got another

962
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: fan over here, so thank you so much.

963
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: You've got a fan too. Thank you, you're alleged. Thanks

964
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: for having me. It's really lovely to be here and

965
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: it's great chat.

966
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 3: Thank you anytime.

967
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: And in the show notes, I'm going to put some

968
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: of your work in the show notes so people can

969
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: check out some of your stuff and the trailer I'm

970
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: sure will be out for Bloody Hell by now, so

971
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Speaker 2: I'm going to sure that everyone can see it.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you so much, big love, bye, thanks, love

973
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: chat to you.

974
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: So that's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing.

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Speaker 3: As always, thank you to our.

976
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Speaker 2: Guests, and let's continue the conversation on Instagram.

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979
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