1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. Coming 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: up on today's show, Sarah's Day's backhanded thank You, Rachel 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Finch's bizarre behavior at her daughter's running race, and Abby 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: Chatfield's semi soft launch. The first influencer Chelsea Ivy has 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: nagged our hometown of Adelaide. The twenty three year old 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: made the move to Adelaide late last year after her 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: AFL player boyfriend Avane Soldo was traded from Richmond to 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Port Adelaide. So at the time, Chelsea ruffled local feathers 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: when she wrote on Instagram about the move to be honest, 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: can't say I ever thought I would ever move to Adelaide. 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: I've never been to Adelaide before, so I actually have 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: no idea what to expect, and I hear so many 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: mixed reviews. It's not forever, but who knows. I could 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: end up loving it, excited for a new chapter and 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: to meet some new people. So spoiler alert, she did 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: not love it. Just seven months on, Chelsea announced her 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: sixty six thousand followers she's leaving Adelaide to live in Dubai. 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: By herself, so she is set to follow in her 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: dreams and be a flight attendant for Emirates. 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: I want to know is there more to this? 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Is there a breakup brewing on the horizon, or is 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: he fine with her just jetting off? Well, her followers 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: did say what is going on with a Varn and 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: she confirmed that apparently he has no issues with her 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: move and would do long distance. She wrote, he had 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: to move to Adelaide for his career and to be honest, 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: it's been a struggle for me. It's not just for 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: me permanently. Temporarily is fine, but long term in Australia, 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: I think Melbourne or Gold Coast are for me, maybe 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: even Sydney. 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: Now. 33 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: I found that interesting because initially back in November she 34 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: said that there was no way she would entertain doing 35 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: long distance. I also wonder how does poor Adelaide. 36 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: Football club feel about this. 37 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: Because she's basically earmarking it saying Adelaide is not a 38 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: long term thing for me or a Vann. Yeah, but 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: they're very young. She's only twenty three. Potentially this will 40 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: cause a split. It's a bit of a slap in 41 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: the face to the wives and girlfriends of the Port 42 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: Adelaide football Club because they would have been her designated 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: besties for the last couple of months. She's just basically gone, 44 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: this is shit. Well, maybe they were rubbed up a 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: little bit the wrong way because she is famous for 46 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: declaring that she is the hottest wag after she attended 47 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: the Richmond Best and Ferris. I'm kind of excited for 48 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: her though, that she is now focusing on her career 49 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: and she's making a big move for her Why should 50 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: she stay on Adelaide if it's not the right decision 51 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: for her career path. 52 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: Oh definitely. 53 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: I do think it's very refreshing that she is focusing 54 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: on her own career. I'm just pissed off for Adelaide 55 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: because originally Chelsea's move to Adelaide triggered this war of 56 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: words between two high profile newspaper columbusts. So there was 57 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: a Melbourne based columnus called Jackie Epstein who questioned whether 58 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: Chelsea would be able to settle for the low energy 59 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: lifestyle of Adelaide, whereas Adelaide based Kara Jung hit back, 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: labeling Epstein's piece as a petty little quipe and said 61 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: residents of Adelaide rolled their eyes and smiled at the 62 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: poor misconception. So it is FROs that I feel like 63 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of journalists from the East Coast have 64 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: jumped onto this narrative and saying, oh, yeah, we told 65 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: you Adelaide is shit, and. 66 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 5: All the kids are treating me very nice. 67 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 6: It's great. 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 5: Gee. 69 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: I can't wait till I go to hikes. 70 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: Look, don't you say that? Don't you ever see that? 71 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: Sarah's day divided opinions when she shared an unusual thank 72 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: you message to her one point two million Instagram followers. 73 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: The controversial fitness influencer took a break while cooking with 74 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: her kids to share a written statement saying how grateful 75 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: she was for her current work life balance. She wrote, 76 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: since having two kids, I've gotten so much better at 77 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: balancing life and work, saying no to opportunities, and allowing 78 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: myself time to just enjoy being a mum. I truly 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: am so glad. I worked harder than ever from twenty 80 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: thirteen to twenty twenty, setting me and my family up 81 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: with businesses, passive income streams, and systems to be able 82 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: to have a work life balance. I just want to 83 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: thank you for supporting me. My channel my projects. Without you, 84 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: I would have probably been a primary school teacher and 85 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: forced to put my kids into daycare as soon as 86 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: my maternity leave was up. I am so so aware 87 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: of how lucky I am and just want to thank 88 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: you for allowing me to be what I've always wanted, 89 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: a stay at home mum. I'd love to unpack Sarah's 90 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: message a bit more because it caused such a stir 91 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: in our Facebook community. So on one hand, people felt 92 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: like her thank you was a slap in the face 93 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: to primary school teachers as well as working mums who 94 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: had no other choice but to send their children to daycare, 95 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: while others believed she was simply trying to thank her 96 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: followers for giving her the financial freedom to stay at 97 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: home with her kids. 98 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 7: Oh don't know where do you guys sit on this? 99 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: I think this comes. 100 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: Down to Sarah's inability to communicate properly with her followers. 101 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: Her execution was off, and because of that, her message 102 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: opened itself up to interpretation. And I've always found Sarah's 103 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: tone on social media to be quite condescending. And when 104 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: you add to the mix the statement being written rather 105 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: than voiced, ag again added a level of interpretation. And 106 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it wasn't her intention to upset her followers, 107 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: but I can see how it came across as backhanded 108 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: and tone death. It kind of seemed like a bit 109 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: of a humble brag, and an insensitive one at that, 110 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: because I think it is quite clear that she is 111 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: quite removed and out of touch with her audience, who 112 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: are working class, and as a country at the moment, 113 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: we are in an economic climate where families can no 114 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: longer live on just one sole income, and the majority 115 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: of Sarah's audience would be working mums who have no 116 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: option but to send their kids to childcare. 117 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: So it's sort of laying this level of guilt on them. 118 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: Oh, well, you're not in this position where you can 119 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: be this hands on stay at home yet like me, 120 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: because you didn't set yourself up. But I don't think 121 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: she necessarily meant that. I don't think she meant it 122 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: how it came across. 123 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 7: I don't think she did either. 124 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: I actually genuinely want to thank my followers for being 125 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: there for me, and I think there's also been kind 126 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: of a bit of demand from people for Sarah to 127 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: be a bit grateful to her audience, So I felt 128 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: felt like she thought she was doing the right thing 129 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: but putting up this message, And where she's got it 130 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: wrong is the disk to school teachers, like acting as 131 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: if school teachers it's the low of the load to 132 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: have that job. 133 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 7: That's what I took from it. 134 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: In terms of this thank you message, it is quite 135 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: rare that we hear Sarah thank her followers, and it 136 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: did come off the back of her lashing out at 137 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: some of her followers recently over fertility comments. So I 138 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: think she thought, Okay, I've got to put something out 139 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: that makes me look grateful, but again she's just missed 140 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: them up. I back to the school teacher comment. I 141 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: don't think she was trying to be offensive to school teachers. 142 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: I think what she does a lot of the time 143 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: is she centers only her experience in it. 144 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: Because for a bit of background, in. 145 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: Her early days of YouTube, she was starting to be 146 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: a primary school teacher and she ended up dropping out 147 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: of UNI to pursue her influencing career. So for her 148 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: being a teacher and not following her dream would have 149 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: been a step back for her. So she was trying 150 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: to send to herself in it. But I think she 151 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: was unaware of how it came across to people who 152 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: are primary school teacher. If I was a primary school 153 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: teacher and I read that, I'd be like, fuck off. 154 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 7: So you don't even understand the. 155 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: Work that goes into it, and you didn't complete your degree, 156 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: That's what I'd be thinking. Well, coming from two parents 157 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: who are teachers, and I have the utmost respect for 158 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: them and their profession and what they do, and it 159 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: is one of the hardest jobs in the world. And 160 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: I think if you didn't have this knowledge that she 161 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: was training to be a primary school teacher and almost 162 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: made it, you'd be like, why is she having. 163 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: A crack of teachers? 164 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the issue with influencers, because if you 165 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 1: haven't been following her for ten years, you wouldn't actually 166 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: have that presumed knowledge. I do think it's also interesting 167 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: that in the space of a year, Sarah has gone 168 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: from referring to herself as a CEO of three different 169 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: businesses to a stay at home mum, and I do 170 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: wonder if this change is due to the trad wife 171 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: trend we're seeing currently on TikTok. The trend is linked 172 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: to Christianity and Sarah over the last couple of years, 173 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: has been a lot more vocal about her faith. The 174 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: ironic thing is the reality is, just like the trad 175 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: wife trend on TikTok, these aren't traditional stay at home 176 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: mums because traditionally mums that stay at home aren't paid 177 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: and therefore their role has always been significantly undervalued. But Sarah, 178 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: like the tradwives you see on TikTok, like Narah Smith, 179 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: earn a lot of money from sharing content about their 180 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: lives and being mums online. So it's ironic that she 181 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: thanked her audience for allowing her to be a stay 182 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: at home mum. But then she also said later on 183 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: oh and I spent three hours filming myself cooking at Lasagna, Well, 184 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: that's your job. I think there would be a lot 185 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: of envy from mums at home watching her because she 186 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: has the capacity to dip in and out of these projects, 187 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: and you know, if she gets bored of the mum life, 188 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: she can jump in and you know, have a shoot 189 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: day where she's filming her own active where or she 190 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: can jump into the kitchen and film it. She lives 191 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: this very aspirational life in a beautiful mansion. So I 192 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: think that there is already a bit of envy there 193 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: from her audience. As you touched on before, Kate, I 194 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: find this move away from hustle culture so interesting because 195 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: as a society, we were told you've got to work hard, 196 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: you've got to have a side hustle whole girl boss there. Yeah, 197 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: and that was very much pushed by Sarah and Kurt. 198 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: And now that it's become cool to have this slower lifestyle, 199 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: to put yourself and your mental health first and your family, 200 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: now she's saying, oh, I'm actually not the sea of 201 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: all these companies. 202 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: I'm a stay at home mum. 203 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: I think it's all about her trying to be relatable 204 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: to her audience. But what she's overlooked is she isn't 205 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: just your traditional stay at home mum. She is in 206 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: a very privileged position where she can pick and choose 207 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: what she does and look after her kids whenever she wants. 208 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: I think it comes down to virtue signaling. 209 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, amongst this, she's also tried to throw in 210 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: a humble brag, which hasn't gone down. Well. 211 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 5: Okay, here we go for second downhill. 212 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: Can they can the ah Rachel Finch's behavior at an 213 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: eight year old daughter's school cross country running race has 214 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: sparked debate. Prior to the race starting, the former Mixed 215 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: Universe contender was finding it difficult to keep her emotions 216 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: under wraps. Let's throw to what she said. 217 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: Across country tom Oh, my gosh, I think I'm I'm 218 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: more nervous than I'm running to the first checkpoint. 219 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 5: I'm about to throw off. I'm reading all these feelings 220 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 5: back when I used to do it. 221 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: Now. If that panting wasn't bad enough, things got worse 222 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: when Rachel started filming herself screaming words of encouragement as 223 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: she ran behind her daughter during the race. She captured 224 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: the vision on her Instagram story crazy cam. Let's throw 225 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: to the audio. 226 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 5: Okay, here we go, first second downhill, sucking the. 227 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: Air in the air? 228 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 5: Go go guy, what's sucked. 229 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: It? 230 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 5: Well done. 231 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: I first saw people talking about this online before seeing 232 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: the video, and at first I was like, Oh, she's 233 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: probably just one of those supportive parents, but this was 234 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: next level. I don't understand how this school let her 235 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: run behind her child during the race. Surely it would 236 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: have been really off putting for the other kids. Her 237 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: daughter ended up coming twelfth out of one hundred, which 238 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: is a pretty good achievement, but I mean there would 239 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: have been a ton of kids coming up from behind her. 240 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the other moms they're seeing this video, 241 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: They're like, why the hell is she allowed at the school? 242 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 7: On the course? 243 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: My favorite bit was that she was out of breath, 244 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: but she's like. 245 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: Suck it in, come on, keep going. 246 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: I mean, good on her for being interested in what 247 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: her child's doing, but I don't know, it. 248 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 7: Just seemed a bit bisy. 249 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: You can imagine when you went to school, if you 250 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: think back, those over the top moms, they'd be the 251 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: sort of mums that would be doing their kids assignment. 252 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: Come on, it's a little too interested, isn't it. 253 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: It seems like she's vicariously living through her child because 254 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: this seemed to be one of her dreams. 255 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: Oh, it was very difficult to watch. 256 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: It seems like this kid has a lot of pressure 257 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: on her to do well, and I'm surprised that you 258 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: would go and share this on social media. Rachel did 259 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: end up writing an update, as you said, Sophie. She 260 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: said that her daughter placed twelfth out of one hundred 261 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: girls and achieved her best time and best performance. She 262 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: also wrote the best I've seen her try. Ever, she 263 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: struggled and wanted to walk, but overcame it and kept going. 264 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: She probably had no choice, So. 265 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: Mom's standing, they get up. 266 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 267 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: She then went on to say, it's never about the 268 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: placing for us. What we care about is the commitment 269 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: to their work and effort. What you put in is 270 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: what you get out. So proud of her, had to 271 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: hold back a gazillion tears. I would be pretty pissed 272 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: off if I was a parent at this school and 273 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm at work, and yeah, I'm very excited for my 274 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: child to be competing in this race, but I'm thinking, well, no, 275 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: wonder my child didn't poll so well when they've got 276 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: the advantage of having their mum there breathing down their 277 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: neck telling them to keep going. 278 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 5: Well. 279 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: This isn't the first time Rachel's parenting has been put 280 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: under the spotlight. Last month, some of her followers accused 281 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: her of giving her children disordered eating, labeling her an 282 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: arm and mum. So for those whose TikTok algorithm hasn't 283 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: served them up this term yet, it is a negative 284 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: term for a mum who has bought into diet culture, 285 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: so they normally have an obsession with healthy eating and 286 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: body image, and this usually flows on to the daughter's 287 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: body image too. Now, these accusations came off the back 288 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: of a video Rachel shared cooking naked burgers for her children. 289 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: So Rachel used lettuce cups instead of burger buns. Now, 290 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: Rachel hit back, labeling the commentary as hilarious and said 291 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: trolls wouldn't complain if she fed her kid's fast food. 292 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: She said, gee whiz, it's funny. 293 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 5: You know. 294 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: They wouldn't blink an eye if I ordered cheeseburgers and 295 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: fries from a fast food chain and put that on 296 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: the table. But homemade naked burgers full of vegetables would 297 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: create psychological damage. 298 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: Go figure. 299 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: I tend to see where she's coming from with that, though, 300 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: because that's one meal, that's a healthy option. Yeah, but 301 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: this is off the back of so Rachel's personal brand 302 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: is very much rooted in the fitness and wellness space, 303 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: and she does have her own wellness brand called Kissed Earth, 304 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: and she sells supplements and powders, and often on her 305 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: Instagram story she is sharing very healthy recipes and promoting 306 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: her products at the same time. So maybe it was 307 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: this positioning of trying to sell a product, well. 308 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: What's wrong with kids eating healthy? 309 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I actually do think it's a form of 310 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: abuse to only put fast food down your child's mouth. Yet, 311 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: as she's saying here, people don't blink an eye at that. 312 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: It's difficult because there are some families who are struggling 313 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: and they might put stuff on the table for their 314 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: kids that might not be as healthy as what Rachel 315 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: Finch is able to afford. 316 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 7: But I also agree with you, Sophie. 317 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: I can't stand when people shame others for being healthy 318 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: and cooking home cooked meals for their kids. It is 319 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: tough because a lot of the time it does turn 320 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: into mom shaming and people are putting a microscope over 321 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: every single thing that the individual does, which is also difficult. 322 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of families have different 323 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: rituals they you know, the parents have different backgrounds. So 324 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: obviously for Rachel, health and fitness is important to her. 325 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: Of course she's going to be feeding her kid's healthy food. 326 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: I think TikTok is a clear example of this because 327 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: on one side of the algorithm you've got these videos 328 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: of mum's, usually American mums, sharing what they're feeding their 329 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: kid and it's like very highly processed food, and they're 330 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: getting completely abused in the comments section saying how it's 331 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: child abused. And then you've also got the side of 332 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: the internet where Rachel Finch is serving naked burgers to 333 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: her kids and everyone's like, oh my god, just let 334 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: them live, give them a real burger. 335 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: That photo, we didn't think it was really cog centric. 336 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: Abby Chatfield has taken the humble Soft launch upper notch. 337 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: While some people share a sneaky photo of their partner's 338 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: arm at dinner or their silhouette at the beach, Abby 339 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: has shared a photo of her face next to her 340 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: boyfriend's crotch. Now, I do want to point out he 341 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: was fully clothed. He was wearing shorts at the time 342 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: she captured the photo Semisoft launch, and she was referencing 343 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: both the relationship status and the state of his appendage. 344 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: I laughed so much when I saw this photo. It 345 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: is so on brand for Abby. Yeah, it's got her 346 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: sense of humor all over it, and the Blue Tick 347 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: Brigade was out inforced to congratulate her. So Master Chef's 348 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: Khan Ong wrote, Oh my effing god, Oh my effing God, 349 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: can you send me the full raging hard launch in 350 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: the DMS. 351 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 4: Thanks. 352 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: Some fans called the post comedy gold, with one saying 353 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: it's the best announcement ever and that Abby should try 354 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: stand up comedy, while some question whether her partner was 355 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: indeed semisoft in the photo, with one writing why does 356 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: it look hard then, to which Abbi responded because he 357 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: has a huge clock. We talk a lot about influencer 358 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: soft launches on this podcast, but I have never seen 359 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: anything like this. It was quite divisive, so some followers, 360 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: of course, were offended by it. One person labeled it 361 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: as gross, and another accused Abby of being a bad. 362 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 4: Influence on young girls now. 363 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: Abby of course responded saying sorry, we're having fun in 364 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: Mexico and in love Chuck. She did also respond on 365 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: her story shortly after, saying that she was shocked by 366 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: the response to her post. 367 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 7: Here's what she said. 368 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: Okay, listen to everyone. I just want to clarify something 369 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: that photo. We didn't think it was really cockcentric. We 370 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 3: just thought it was like I'm near. We just written article. 371 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 3: We really didn't think that it was like cock. We 372 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: just thought it was like a funny pun because we 373 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 3: happened to take a photo of me next to my boyfriend's. 374 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 5: You to say it was corny once. 375 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 3: It was corny. 376 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 4: Wow, Well, she didn't leave anything to the imagination. Just then. 377 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: He made me wondering, who does the crotch actually belong to? 378 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: All the semi hard penis in the photo? 379 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it does belong to Adam Hyde, who is 380 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: in Peaking Duck and he releases his music under the 381 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 1: name Kelly Holidays, So I'm not do we call him 382 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: Adam or Kelly Adam. Well, she did mention back on 383 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: her podcast in March that she had begun dating someone 384 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: and everyone was trying to guess, and she was talking 385 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: about how happy she was and that she'd actually known 386 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: him for a couple of years. She has that he's 387 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: emotionally intelligent, and they seem like a very good pairing. 388 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: They look like a brother and sister couple because they 389 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: are actually in a couple of photos together on Abby's Instagram. 390 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: So they were hanging out at the Grand Prix and 391 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: they looked very cute together. So he has long, thick, 392 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: curly hair. They look very similar. Now, Adam did actually 393 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: comment under the soft Launch photo saying whose cock is 394 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: that they seem to have the same sense of human Yeah, 395 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: well they're clearly having a lot of fun teasing this relationship. 396 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: Abby ended up posting a video of her in a 397 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: bikinis dancing and miming to a Peaking Duck song and wrote, 398 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: heard this random song from this random new ep and 399 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: felt inspired to create a little something from Mexico. 400 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 4: Does anyone know the artist? 401 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 6: Someone help if somebody ever supplied you over And then 402 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 6: you think to yourself, oh my god, he looks so 403 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 6: in love with his next girlfriend. Guys just patiently said that, 404 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 6: because you know he's going to do the same thing. 405 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: Saffron Barker has issued a warning to her ex Lewis Reese. 406 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: Zammit's new girlfriend, the Chiefs recruit soft launched his relationship 407 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: with a sports illustrated model two months after he split 408 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: from the British YouTuber. Rather than feeling upset, though Saffron 409 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: admitted she felt satisfied knowing the woman was set to 410 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: receive the same treatment she did. This breakup is the 411 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: breakup that keeps on giving. I can't believe they've only 412 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: been broken up for two months. So much has gone 413 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: on since, and they broke up when Saffron allegedly found 414 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: out that Lewis was cheating on her whilst he was 415 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: at an NFL training camp, and this played out heavily 416 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: on TikTok, with Saffron miming to break up songs and 417 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: her mamager Wendy going rogue in the comment section, calling 418 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: Lewis out. What we have all been waiting for, though, 419 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: is Saffron to drop the dirty details all receipts on 420 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: a dating podcast, and so far she hasn't gone into 421 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: exactly what went down, but the cracks do seem to 422 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: be forming though. With news that Lewis has moved on 423 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: with another social media star, it is clear that he 424 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: has a type. So his new girlfriend is twenty three 425 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: year old Xandra Pole, who has one point two million 426 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: followers on TikTok. She's most popular for her get Ready 427 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: with Me videos and also for being a DJ in Miami. 428 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: Now. I don't know if you've seen her, but. 429 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: She looks very similar to Saffron and this couple have 430 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: been spotted exploring Lewis's new hometown in Kansas. 431 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 4: City, so assuming she is American as well. 432 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: Yes, she's from Miami, so they visited an amusement park 433 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: and randomly, their first photo together is them on a 434 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: roller coaster. 435 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 4: Just what you want. They're not usually the most flattering images. 436 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: But she did look pretty good. 437 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: Didn't he take Saffron to some amusement park over Christmas 438 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: time as well? 439 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 7: It seems to be his go to date. 440 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: Well, he seems like a big kid, so that doesn't 441 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: surprise me. It's clear that this amusement park wanted to 442 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: cash in on the fact that this was going to 443 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: be the couple's softwaunched. 444 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: Well, they made it. 445 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: A soft launch because they plasted this image of them 446 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: on the roller coaster all over their social media accounts, 447 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: and the two of Us company that the couple also 448 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: traveled in seemed to want to get in on the 449 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: action because they also posted a photo of the pair 450 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: looking very loved up on social media. I'd been kissed 451 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: off if I was them, especially if I wanted to 452 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: keep this relationship under wraps. Yeah, but they were at 453 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: an amusement park, out in public. They wanted to be seen. 454 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: Perhaps they got free tickets and the amusement park said, oh, 455 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: can we share your photo. Well, they're definitely getting a 456 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: lot of attention for it because The mainstream media have 457 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: obviously picked up on this story, and journalists are already 458 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: writing stories saying meet the new Kansas City Chief. Player's 459 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: girlfriend now, Xandra is also fresh out of a relationship. 460 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: So she was dating a fellow TikToker who was also 461 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: a DJ, and they broke up after three years together. 462 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: So maybe she's just looking to meet new people. I 463 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: don't know if this is actually as serious as everyone's 464 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: making it out to be. Is there any talk online 465 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: about whether the relationship with this girl has crossed over 466 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: with Saffron because there was so much talk of Lewis 467 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: cheating on her over in America. I mean, I think 468 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: it's clear that the pair have just met on RAYA. 469 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: He wasn't following her before. I don't think that this 470 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: was any sort of overlap because straight after the breakup 471 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: he was moving quickly and sliding into other girls dms 472 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: and adding new girls and liking I think. 473 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: He's just a player. 474 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 7: Yeah. 475 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: Well, it's quite clear that Saffron originally wasn't very happy 476 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: when she found out this news, but she has put 477 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: a spin on it on her own dating podcast. 478 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 6: This is what she said, if somebody ever succluted you 479 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 6: over and then you think to yourself, oh my god, 480 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 6: he looks so in love with his next girlfriend, and 481 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 6: he's this, and he's that, and oh my god, a 482 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 6: compan if he's found someone else. Guys just patiently sat 483 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 6: there because you know he's going to do the same thing. 484 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 6: If you could sit there satisfied knowing he will do the. 485 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 2: Same thing, Yeah, the same thing to every person. 486 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: Now, this was actually in response to a listener question, 487 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: but it's fairly obvious that she was inadvertently referring to 488 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: the recent news. It's becoming clear that Saffron wants to 489 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: set the record straight about this relationship, because as soon 490 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: as the breakup became public, she was mocked for being 491 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: the overly eager one because she got a tattoo with 492 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: his initials on it when they'd only been together for 493 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: a couple of months. She made this AI video of 494 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: their future babies. She was talking about moving to the 495 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: US with him, and now I think that she wants 496 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: to show that he's actually the one that love bombed her. 497 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: So she has actually put it out there on her 498 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: podcast that he was saying that he planned to propose 499 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: to her at the sixth month mark of their relationship. 500 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: Here's what she said. 501 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 6: I was adam at my exoy. Wasn't with a very 502 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 6: long was going to propose to me? Yeah, very quickly, 503 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 6: wasn't he. I we were together for about six months, 504 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 6: so in my eye, and I know, yeah new seriously, 505 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 6: and so when we well got the news we got 506 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 6: it was a very big shock faracter, I can assure you, 507 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 6: because I thought I was going to about six months. Well, 508 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 6: if he was in the country, I probably would have been. 509 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 6: So I don't know, because I've always had the attitude 510 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 6: of if you know, you know, why do you have 511 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 6: to wait years? 512 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 7: I don't get it. 513 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: That was always my attitude. 514 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: What a fuck you from Saffron. This made me feel 515 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: really sorry for her, especially Sophie. You mentioned all of 516 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: the craps she's copped after this breakup. It's obvious that 517 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: this guy has been love bombing her, and perhaps that's 518 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: what he's doing to his new girlfriend. She wants the 519 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: new girlfriend to be aware of just how serious they were. 520 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: She's clearly bothered by it, as anyone would be. Oh, 521 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: if you think you're going to be marrying the guy 522 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, of course you're going to be pissed off 523 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: about it, and you'd be wanting to stamp your authority 524 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: over it, and also to let all the trolls know 525 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: that you weren't just reading too much into it. 526 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 4: What's the best? 527 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: Saffron thought that she was getting proposed to in the 528 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: Mawdives because her and Lewis had booked a treat and 529 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: they were supposed to be celebrating after this training camp 530 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: that he was on, and she spoke a lot about 531 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: in the lead up to Valentine's Day? How can you 532 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: believe Lewis didn't know how to get rose pedals in 533 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: a hotel room. 534 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 4: So it's almost like she had. 535 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: This vision in her head of she's getting proposed to 536 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: in the Maldives. It's going to be so picture perfect 537 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: for TikTok, and then can you imagine finding out that 538 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: your partner allegedly cheated on you. 539 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: She's actually taken it quite well. 540 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: I thought that she would have been a bit more 541 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: down in the dumps, and it looks like she may 542 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: be moving on with a German basketball so fans have 543 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: spotted her liking and commenting on Brandon Titcher's posts. Did 544 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: you get excited that his name's Brandon? Like your partner 545 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: I did because listen. 546 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: This will not. 547 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: I am a big fan of Saffron Barker. She probably 548 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: is my favorite influencer after Molly May. I just love 549 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: because of the invention of Raya, all of these influencers 550 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: are now dating these international sports players. Well, I mean 551 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: she loves a long distance relationships. If she's in the UK, 552 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: he's in Germany. That's not too far away. This could 553 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: be quite perfect. 554 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 4: Well, that's why we're going to leave today. 555 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: If you do want to hear more content from us, 556 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: then perhaps it's time to become a subscriber. We drop 557 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: a new subscriber episode every Thursday. 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