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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. This

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Speaker 2: If you're ready to rise up and conquer your dream career,

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Speaker 2: get straight into the show, Sammy, Welcome to the Rise

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm so excited. So we're going to be chatting

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Speaker 1: I think for me, moving my body really helps. I

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Speaker 2: I love that and I am very much the same.

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Speaker 2: Even if it's not like, you know, an extensive or

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Speaker 1: So I had to really dig deep and I went

440
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Speaker 1: to therapy.

441
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Speaker 3: I mean, this confidence.

442
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: Hasn't come from just like an overnight thing, Like I've

443
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: really worked hard to learn to love myself, and at

444
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I feel like you can

445
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: look any certain way at all, but it's your personality

446
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: that I feel like people really kind of connect with.

447
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: And your body is just your body. It's not the

448
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: be all and end or it doesn't.

449
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: Define who you are.

450
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: And if you're a kind, loving person, then people will

451
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: love you, and people don't.

452
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: People see past your body.

453
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: So it's really kind of learning that it's what is

454
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: on the inside that really counts. And I feel like

455
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people kind of steer away from therapy

456
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: because it makes you feel like or I feel like

457
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: there's this stigma about therapy, like you must be crazy,

458
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: or you must be really going through a hard time,

459
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: or it's kind of negative, Whereas I see therapy as

460
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: like a really great positive thing, and I think more

461
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: people should do it and talk about our emotions and

462
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: get it out and sometimes be surprised what comes out,

463
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: like even if sometimes I go into therapy and I'm like, oh,

464
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: I feel fine, like and then something happens and I'm like, wow,

465
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that was in there. So we really

466
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: hold on to a lot of emotions as well, So

467
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: being able to let go, I think has really helped

468
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: me as well. It's definitely been a huge journey of

469
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: kind of getting to know myself. But I'm definitely in

470
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: a stage where I do feel confident most of the time,

471
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: but I still have my moments, and I think it's

472
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: important to remember that not everyone is perfect and even

473
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: me inspiring others to feel confident in their own skin.

474
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: I still go through feelings and emotions that don't.

475
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: Make me feel very good on the old occasion, and

476
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: knowing that you know, no one's perfect.

477
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent, And I love that you touched on,

478
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Speaker 2: you know, grasping with then really sort of getting around

479
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: the concept that we're just we're more than what we

480
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: look like. And I think it's you know, it's hard

481
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: because everywhere we look on social media and you know,

482
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: on the media and all that sort of stuff, we're

483
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: very much told that if you don't fit in this ideal,

484
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: then you're almost unimportant. So I definitely could not agree

485
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: more in regards to doing the work, because, like you said,

486
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: it's not like this happened overnight. You went to therapy.

487
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: You had to do the work and really getting to

488
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: a place where you're like, actually, I am so much

489
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: more than how I look. I am so much more

490
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: my than my body, and also realizing that I don't know,

491
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: like I realized, because I went through a similar journey

492
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: and I feel like most sort of young girls do

493
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: in regards to I was just like overtraining and under eating,

494
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: and I was trying to fit this ideal. But what

495
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 2: I realized is when I stopped caring about you know,

496
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: what I was eating next, and how I looked and

497
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: those different things, I had so much more capacity to

498
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: care about other things and to think about other things

499
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: that weren't to do with how I looked. And I

500
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: think when you and I don't know if you kind

501
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: of had the same experience.

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Speaker 3: Oh totally.

503
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: And I feel like too, you know, sometimes as women

504
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: we go like, oh, if I just lose ten kilo's

505
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: all be happy, but it's like you'll get there and then.

506
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: You'll be like, well, if I just did this, then

507
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: I'll be happy. And it's and we focus so much

508
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 3: on our bodies when in real reality, we need to

509
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: work on everything around us to make us happy.

510
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: And our bodies can be the best looking body that

511
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: it can ever be, and you could still be feeling

512
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: unfulfilled and unhappy. So just understanding that happiness doesn't come

513
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: from what you look.

514
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: Like a hundred percent. And also I loved that you

515
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: touched on that you see like you go to therapy

516
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: and I have also very much been very open about

517
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: I started seeing a psychologist last year and it was

518
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: definitely the best thing I did. I think, you know,

519
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: sort of having the sounding board of someone who you

520
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about how they feel or what

521
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: they're thinking or anything like that has just been like

522
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: truly amazing. It's almost like a very much it's like

523
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: a form of like journaling or self reflection that just intensified.

524
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you just find out so much stuff that

525
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: you don't realize is there, or things that you realize

526
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 4: you didn't that kind of irritated you that you really

527
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 4: you might have thought were just nothing.

528
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: So yes, like how certain things trigger you and like, ah,

529
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: so that's a trigger. Interesting?

530
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, interesting.

531
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Speaker 1: But then I feel you can learn to like you

532
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: learn to find the triggers and you learn like, oh,

533
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: that's triggered me, and now I can choose to react.

534
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: Especially I don't know if you have a lot of

535
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: like trolling on your Instagram, but definitely for me, you know,

536
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: I do get call fair or oh, I will get

537
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: nasty comments every now and then, and when I first

538
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: kind of got them, it noted my confidence a little bit.

539
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: And then I realized, I have a choice.

540
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: I have a choice to let it affect me or

541
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: I have a choice to let it go and just going,

542
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't that person's opinion doesn't really

543
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: matter to me. And being able to let that go

544
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: and make a choice to just kind of react in

545
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: the way that I want to, and knowing that I

546
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: had the power to make a choice really really helped.

547
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I love that about what you're saying in regards

548
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: to having the power of a choice. I think that

549
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: is so important. And often we can feel, you know,

550
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: powerless and very victimized. But like you said, almost like

551
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: grabbing that power back and going, oh, actually, I have

552
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: the choice not to react to this, like for it

553
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: not to get to me. And you know it's not

554
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: always that easy, but yes I could not. We all

555
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: have their days, yeah, oh my god. And sometimes bad weeks.

556
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. I just I had one of those weeks

557
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: the other week, and I told Mel, my project manager,

558
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: I was like, let's just pick everything up next week

559
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: because I just can't right now. She's like, oh my god,

560
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: I love O know. So Sammy, let's chat some positive rituals.

561
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: So I know twenty twenty has not been the year

562
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: we thought it was going to be, and there's been

563
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: lots of curs, bulls and lots of losses and lots

564
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: of stuff that just hasn't gone to plan. So I

565
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: would love to hear from you in regards to how

566
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: you stay in a positive mindset.

567
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, how crazy is twenty twenty?

568
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: I was like, it's gonna be the best, man, I know, Wow, where.

569
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: We falled.

570
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 4: For me?

571
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: I guess a ritual. I just really love music. Coming

572
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: from a dancing background. Again, I just it makes me

573
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: happy and I feel like it can change my state.

574
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: Really quickly.

575
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: So if I'm feeling really flat or low, if I

576
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: put on one of my favorite songs and just put it.

577
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: Really loud in the car and sing along, it really

578
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: picks up my mood. So I love to do that.

579
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: And also again, I love to work out to kind

580
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: of really get the blood flowing and make me feel alive.

581
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: I also like coffee.

582
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: Coffee fixes most things. Hey, yes, amazing, Well, thank you

583
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: so much, Samie. I want to finish the interview with

584
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: a question that I will be asking all my guests

585
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: for season three, and it is and with this question, Sammy,

586
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: I'm looking for a bit of a pep talk. So

587
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: what would you tell What would you tell yourself if

588
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: you are about to start something new or do something

589
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: new and you're feeling super uncomfortable, you've got some self

590
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: doubt creeping in a bit of fear. Also, what would

591
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: you tell yourself?

592
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So I've started to do this probably about a

593
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: year ago. I feel like it's the best thing that

594
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: I've ever kind of discovered. It's like, okay, because I'm

595
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: a bit of a like a bit of a worry

596
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: ward I kind of overanalyze everything and I freak out

597
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: of it. So for me, I'm like, Okay, what is

598
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: the absolute worst case scenario that can happen from me

599
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: doing this? And then I write it down and I go,

600
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: you know what, I can probably deal with it, or no,

601
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: I can't do that, So I'm out, that.

602
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: Is so good. I think I've actually heard about that before.

603
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: Almost it's like getting comfortable with the worst case scenario.

604
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: So it's like, look, it's you know, worst case scenario,

605
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: it's not actually that bad. Or it's like Okay, I

606
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: really don't want to do this.

607
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like it really puts it in

608
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: personerspective too, because sometimes things seem so overwhelming and so

609
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: like scary, and then when you really go like what

610
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: is the like honestly, what is the worst possible case

611
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: or what's the worst thing that can happen?

612
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: And then you're like, oh, it's actually not that bad.

613
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: Yes. I do this also where I build something up

614
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 2: in my head and then like I talk to Tim

615
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: about it and like his face is like like almost confused,

616
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: like what, like where's the bad part? And then I

617
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 2: realize that I've just completely built it up in my head.

618
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: Yes. I feel like we as humans do that a lot,

619
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: so really like getting a clear perspective is really great

620
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: and kind of taking like I also find not reacting

621
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: really quickly. I like to take my time and making

622
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: really important decisions. So if someone is listening and they

623
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: want to start a business or they want to start

624
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: something new.

625
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Speaker 3: Don't rush your decision like you are in control of

626
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 3: the time and and just take your time to make

627
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: a choice.

628
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: I love that.

629
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Speaker 1: Well.

630
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Sammy. It has been a pleasure

631
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: to have you on the show. Could you let the

632
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: audience know where they can find you and where they

633
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 2: can find Breeze Balm.

634
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, it was so nice chatting to you.

635
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: You guys can find me on Instagram if you just

636
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: search Semi Leo and you can find Breeze Balm at

637
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: www dot breezebalm dot com.

638
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Sammy. Thank you, and that is

639
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: it for today's episode. Thank you so much for listening.

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00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed this chat. And guys, if you

641
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: did love this episode, if you love the podcast, please

642
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: give us a review or make sure you're subscribed. It

643
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: really helps out the Rise and Conker podcast. And if

644
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: you do love the podcast and you love the conversations

645
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Speaker 2: Facebook group, so come and join us. It's just Rise

647
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 2: and Conquer podcast community. And yeah it's a private group

648
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: where we chatted all things we do on the podcast.

649
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: But thank you so much for listening. I'll chat to

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Speaker 2: you on our next day.

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Speaker 4: It was for me.

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Speaker 3: There's no baby, there's all the time for dreams.

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Speaker 2: Right here the car and I to see