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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist,

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Speaker 1: and yoga teacher join me as we get to know

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Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately

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Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's lols here. This guest is the wonderful Loretta,

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Speaker 1: So think all things reiki crystal healing vibes. She's got

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Speaker 1: this epic goddess energy. In this episode, we talk about

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Speaker 1: how Loretta plucked up the courage to quit her corporate

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Speaker 1: job super successful to chase her dreams of reiki crystal

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Speaker 1: energy healing. She also talks about balancing chasing that passion

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Speaker 1: and being a mama of two little baby bambinos and

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Speaker 1: balancing her relationship as well. Trigger warning here Loretta does

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Speaker 1: open up about eating disorders, especially bulimia, and living and

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Speaker 1: hiding bulimia. Loretta, thank you so much for your bravery,

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Speaker 1: your kindness, and your heart.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so, this next guest is gorgeous. First of all,

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Speaker 1: if we talk about talk about who I'm sitting opposite,

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Speaker 1: it's the wonderful Loretta from Nourish Energy. You may know

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Speaker 1: her from Instar She is an all round kind of

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Speaker 1: energetic healer. So I'm talking crystals, sound reiki, do one

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Speaker 1: on one counsel of coaching, should I say? And I

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Speaker 1: think I was reading on Loretta's website her dama or

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Speaker 1: purpose is to inspire people to live more fulfilled lives

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Speaker 1: via energy healing. Did I get that? Okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So Loretta and I we've known each other for yonks.

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Speaker 1: When did we meet?

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Speaker 3: It was end of twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, where I don't know? So you contacted me on Instagram?

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Speaker 1: Oh I love this stuffs like a day. I just

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Speaker 1: slid into a DM.

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Speaker 2: You did, actually, and you asked me if I wanted

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Speaker 2: to go crystal shopping with you?

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Speaker 1: Right? Did I run into you at the crystal shop

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Speaker 1: before that happened? No, that happened after. Oh my god, amazing.

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Speaker 1: I got a couple of I've blacked out on that,

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Speaker 1: and then we went crystal shopping, didn't we? Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: And the rest is history. I've done my reiki training

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Speaker 1: with you, so I've done my level one, level two,

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Speaker 1: Level two A is that three A? Three A? You've

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Speaker 1: also done crystal healing on me, and I've speaken at

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Speaker 1: your event spoke at your event recently as well. So

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Speaker 1: I guess this podcast is about fucking up. Really, it's

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Speaker 1: about failing because I think Instagram celebrates all the good

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Speaker 1: shit and it's like kind of like a highlight reel

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Speaker 1: for life. So the reason why I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: you on here is because I know that you've kind

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Speaker 1: of like gone against the grain to create this business,

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Speaker 1: to create to be in this industry and to keep

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Speaker 1: your own integrity. You're using obviously social media to you know,

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Speaker 1: generate business, and I just I find your story fascinating.

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Speaker 1: And then when I delved a bit deeper and got

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Speaker 1: onto your website and looked into your bio, and I'm

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Speaker 1: a virgo, so I like to know all the facts

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Speaker 1: before a podcast. You know, your twenties was a really tricky,

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Speaker 1: tricky time for you. But before we talk about that,

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Speaker 1: quickly give me a quick speel about like, I know

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Speaker 1: I've just said what you do, but like give us

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Speaker 1: a little bit of Like I'm sitting in your clinic

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Speaker 1: space here and where surrounded by crystals and Tibetan singing bowls.

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Speaker 1: So in a nutshell, what is norige energy?

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Speaker 2: No energy is basically it provides the tools and the

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Speaker 2: of their dreams.

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Speaker 1: Oh sold, sign me up. Awesome. And so you said

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Speaker 1: to me like, actually, when I spoke your even you

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Speaker 2: I quit my job in actually just last year, like

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Speaker 2: wasn't until after that conversation with you and.

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Speaker 1: We were crossing the road, there wasn't I was like,

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, we did, and you said to me,

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Speaker 2: I think I needed someone who was already living their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think you also said to me, don't

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Speaker 1: Stay Nutrition, but I was like, I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: the time was like, oh my god, don't get into debt.

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Speaker 1: You're way too young to start getting into debt. Don't

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Speaker 1: go to the bank and don't get the loan. Don't

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Speaker 1: like it was like protect yourself, protect yourself, And I

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of like what you're getting at. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I definitely had one within myself, and my parents certainly

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Speaker 2: I think mum sort of says, oh she does like

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Speaker 2: was a I guess, an expectation there to live a

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Speaker 3: Done and Mum and Dad helped me out so much.

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Speaker 1: And why do you why do you want to do this?

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Speaker 1: Why can't you just stay at home? Why can't you

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Speaker 1: Like you are an amazing mum, and i've seen you

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Speaker 1: I haven't met that's a bad friend thing of me.

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Speaker 1: But you're incredible and it's not like it's not like

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Speaker 2: Sure, So my twenties were if I sum it up

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Speaker 1: We've all tried to do so just for people that

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Speaker 1: might be like eating disorder is just a mental condition,

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Speaker 1: but blame me or as specifically, you'd often potentially gorge

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Speaker 1: or binge and then and then purge, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: It was every day for a very long time. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: For a very long time it was every day, sometimes

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Speaker 3: That was where I grew up and that for me

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Speaker 1: So did you binge as well? Or did human? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: First of all, why we have this thing in our

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Speaker 1: Where does that even come in we're judging another person's body.

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Speaker 1: Well, this week you probably say social media is a

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Speaker 1: and I don't know who I am and I don't

435
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 1: know what I But when you say like having dark thoughts,

436
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 1: is it like that sense of not belowing or not

437
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: belonging or not knowing who you are or feeling.

438
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 3: Stark or me, it was I'm not good enough?

439
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: Ah.

440
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we all have a fundamental belief that

441
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: fuels everything else. Yeah, all the other shit beliefs that

442
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 2: we have, but there's always one. Even the work that

443
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: I do with client, so you know, I really get

444
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: them to hone down and focus on one thing, then

445
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 2: get them to go through that process of discovering that

446
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: one thing, because that when once we can understand what

447
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: it is that we live by and what's really holding

448
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: us back.

449
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: Then we can start to work on that and to

450
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: change that. So what was that turning point for you?

451
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: Well, I realized that it wasn't that I wasn't good enough,

452
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: that that was the belief that I wasn't good enough.

453
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: And I started to do a lot of work on.

454
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: Myself in my late twenties, and I didn't want to

455
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 2: feel this way anymore, and I certainly I didn't want

456
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 2: to have bliem Her anymore.

457
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: I just know it was how'd you get dating?

458
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 3: And like it was fine?

459
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: Fine?

460
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: I know, No.

461
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: I told a couple of guys I dated, I think,

462
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 2: and there was a bit of misunderstanding about what it

463
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: was or really trying to help me or trying to

464
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: sympathize with me and empathize you know.

465
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: It was it was kind of that like, oh, you

466
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't feel like that, you know. Yeah, that sort of stuff. Surface, Yeah,

467
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: very surfacey stuff.

468
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: My husband, though, when I met him, he was very

469
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: different in his approach.

470
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamie.

471
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

472
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: So when I met Jamie, actually.

473
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 2: He he said to me, I think after a few

474
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: months it kind of came up and I said, look,

475
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: I'm seeing a therapist, and I started at that point,

476
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 2: I'd started doing energy work with one of my teachers,

477
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: and I had a life coach as well, so I

478
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: was doing a lot of stuff and and he said

479
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: to me.

480
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: We talked about why and what I would, what I was.

481
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 2: Doing, and all that sort of stuff, and he actually

482
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 2: just pulled me up on it and he goes, what

483
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: the fuck are you doing?

484
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: Oh? How good and strong?

485
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah he did, and he said.

486
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: You know, I I want to have kids, and I

487
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: want to have I want to get married and have

488
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 2: a family, and I have to think about the type

489
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: of mum that I want to raise my child.

490
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 3: And you know, if my friend had told me that

491
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: the guy said that, I'd be like, oh my god,

492
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 3: dump his ass, what a dick, you know.

493
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: But he was really strong in being able to say

494
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: that to me, and and it really changed my I

495
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: guess my.

496
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: Purpose of wanting to get better, right, because I now had.

497
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: A bigger, a bigger why, a bigger, a bigger reason

498
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 2: to get put.

499
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: On him for calling that out in you like, that's

500
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: pretty ballsy. Yeah, that's a full like fucket line in

501
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: the sand, you know what I mean, Like eat a

502
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: man up and facier shit because you've got to be Also,

503
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: that's the thing. You don't want to impart your shit

504
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: onto your.

505
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: Kids, No way, no, no, not at all.

506
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: The buck stops. It's got to stop here.

507
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to heal the wounds, right, because you

508
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: do ancestral healing, you know, you pass on this stuff

509
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: to tommit's you can't it's your responsibilit to heal that

510
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: in your lifetime.

511
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: Totally. I actually think like the first I also see

512
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: a therapist, and the first few months, I was like, oh,

513
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: my mom and dad are shit. Like I was blaming

514
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: them because when you first start therapy, you often go

515
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: back to childhood things that have happened that they become

516
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 1: triggers the way that you are as an adult and

517
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: you're coping mechanisms, and so I would remember all these

518
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: like just little niggerly things that mum or dad had said,

519
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, no, I need space away

520
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: from them because they're the whole reason that I'm fucked

521
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: up right now. And then as the therapy goes on,

522
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: you realize they're actually fucking amazing human beings, but they're

523
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: also just human beings trying to do the best they

524
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: can and they are going to fuck up. I'm going

525
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: to fuck up as a parent one day, you know

526
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: what I mean. And as soon as you get past that,

527
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, they're actually pretty cool, and actually they

528
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: did a really awesome job, and I probably would do

529
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: much like I would aspire to do that good of

530
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: a job. And I think, yeah, it is our own

531
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: responsibility to face our own shit learn from it. And

532
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: I think as well, what I love about you is, yes,

533
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: you are all about energy work, but like that's one

534
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: form of self care. There are so many things that

535
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: you can do, Like you can go and study meditation,

536
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: you can see a psychologist, you can see a hypnotherapist,

537
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm big in hypnotherapy, so I love it, and

538
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: I think there's no right way. But I think every

539
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: human being, as an adult has a responsibility to work

540
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: on themselves on a psychological level, and I think energy

541
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: healing like this works on an emotional and psychological level too,

542
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: which brings me to I don't know why I tried

543
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: to sing that, because I can't sing for peanuts nourish energy.

544
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: So I read on your website that it kind of

545
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: started as a hot side hustle obviously before you met

546
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: me and that story will come into sec but not

547
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: saying I'm a pinnacle person, by the way, But I'm

548
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: just saying, like when we had that combo and you

549
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, I'm going to man up and take

550
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: the plunge. So when did it start as a side hustle?

551
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: Take me through that journey, because you said that it

552
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: was like an Instagram for like five years or something.

553
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: Is that right?

554
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an Instagram account for about two years.

555
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I got my numbers wrong. Guys kind of

556
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: started it.

557
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 2: Look, I started it because I wanted to inspire myself

558
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: and motivate myself, and I wanted to share that stuff

559
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: with other people. And to be honest, my strategy hasn't

560
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: changed very much.

561
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: You know.

562
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: My Instagram account is all about inspiring and empowering others

563
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: as well as well as myself.

564
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: So I just started it like that.

565
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 2: And I had been studying reiki on the side. I'd

566
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: also been studying crystals and other things as well. I'm

567
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: always studying, by the way, always doing a course or something,

568
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: but I was doing a lot of that sort of stuff.

569
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: I knew that I wanted to practice professionally, but something

570
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: kept holding me back.

571
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: It wasn't really the right time I tried. I went

572
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: to another.

573
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: Space, had zero clientst my flight has printed everything like that,

574
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: put up a website, an old website now, an old logo.

575
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: Nothing really didn't feel right. Nothing you got.

576
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: People need to know this about you, because do you

577
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: see noch energy And it's beautiful and the website it's incredible,

578
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: and it feels like you're, you know, in a beautiful

579
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: wonderland of energetic healing, and it's all very beautiful and blissful.

580
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: But people needn't know that you did it fucking wrong

581
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: at the stuff.

582
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah I did did it really wrong at the start.

583
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: And I think like saying that you had no clients,

584
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know that about you?

585
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: How did that make you feel like I was not

586
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: doing the right thing?

587
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

588
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: This wasn't.

589
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: But I couldn't stop this this feeling right, this niggle,

590
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: like no, keep just going with it, just go with it.

591
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: And that's I just trusted that. I kept trusting.

592
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so cool intuition, right.

593
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I kept putting my energy into the study

594
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: and into learning and into my Instagram account. I kept

595
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: trying to I mean that was going well, that was

596
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: you know, followers were increasing, and I was getting with that.

597
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: Now doesn't grow much nowadays, does it? Mine?

598
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: Does it? It's not too bad.

599
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: Oh, mine doesn't mind hit a fucking brick wall months ago?

600
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah no. Still, I'll take lessons off

601
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: of you. Yeah.

602
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: So I was just just focusing.

603
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: On what was working, I guess, and try to do

604
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: different things.

605
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: And then.

606
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: I was pouring so much energy into my day job

607
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: as well. So at that moment, my daughter was my

608
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: first daughter was eighty months old, and I was back

609
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: working full time, which was really shit, Like that was

610
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have gone back full time to work, and

611
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't right for me. And I was

612
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: working a lot. I was kind of away from my

613
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: husband a lot in terms of you know, the family

614
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: time and all that sort of stuff, and I was

615
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: really disconnecting from our relationship and I felt like.

616
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: I felt like I was just numb in that department.

617
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: I had really no I'd sort of disassociated from what

618
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: was going on within our relationship and I knew that

619
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: things weren't great, but I just ignored it and kept

620
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 2: focusing more on the on the business and pouring all

621
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: my energy into that stor.

622
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: So we met around this time, did we not? No,

623
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: do we meet after this to this?

624
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: Yep?

625
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were kind of like trying, but almost

626
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: like you're going pushing against something. Yeah, so what was

627
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: the next step for you? I cut you off, so

628
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: you may as well just tell us the next step was.

629
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: Well, one day I Jamie was out.

630
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: It was a Saturday night, and I I had Angelica

631
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: and I had an ear infection.

632
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: Now, if anyone's into metaphysical.

633
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: Messages, you'd be wondering, Okay, well, what wasn't she listening

634
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: to anyway?

635
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: So I had an ear infection.

636
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: I went went to my parents' house and told Jamie

637
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: that I wasn't feeling well, getting some help with Angelica.

638
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: I'll be back tomorrow. Tomorrow came and I didn't go home,

639
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: and I said I'll be back the next day.

640
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: Next day came. The day after that.

641
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: Came and I was like, right, I've got to go

642
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: home now, packed the car up, walked back inside to

643
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: get Angelica. She was in the living room floor with

644
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: my mom just playing, and I said, come on, I Jelica,

645
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: I've got to go, And then I just collapsed on

646
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: the floor in a heap, and I was sobbing, so loudly,

647
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 2: and I couldn't control myself at all. And I actually

648
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: had no idea how I was feeling at this point.

649
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: I was sort of just living in it on automatic.

650
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: I didn't really know what was what I was feeling,

651
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: what was going on. And Mum was huddled over me,

652
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: and she was trying to understand what was going on.

653
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 3: She said to me, what's wrong? What's wrong?

654
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: And all I could manage to say was I can't

655
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: go back there. I can't go back there. And I

656
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: didn't even know why I didn't. I had no idea

657
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: how how I really felt. And I didn't go back

658
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: for five months, but in that time, nourished energy the

659
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: way that it is today was born.

660
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how did Jamie take that?

661
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: Like?

662
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: How did it go? So we had we had to work.

663
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: Through a lot of our own stuff.

664
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: But the thing that I understand now in hindsight is

665
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: I always had this fear of abandonment, of being alone,

666
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: you know, because I wasn't good enough right, so I

667
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: had to I always.

668
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: Wanted to be accepted by somebody or.

669
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: Loved and that sort of thing.

670
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: So I had worked on that shit with my parents,

671
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: but I obviously hadn't done enough of the work with

672
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: my relationships, and I was with I had stuck with Jamie.

673
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: I guess as part of that fear, right, a fear

674
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: of abandonment and fear of being by myself, And and

675
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: what happened that day, I really believe it was totally

676
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: a gift from the universe to pull me back totally

677
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: and to say, you know, to release me of stuff

678
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: that wasn't serving me right there, and I couldn't grow

679
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: in that environment, and narration.

680
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: Energy couldn't work either.

681
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: People, yeah, yeah, And I had to I had to

682
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: reach the bottom, right the rock bottom, and I had

683
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 2: to live through my fear of abandonment. So I was single, Mummy,

684
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: I was alone, and I was living through that and

685
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: I did. We did work through our shit and I

686
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: went back, but not because I was in fear anymore.

687
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: I was actually the choice I make every day. To

688
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: stay with that man that I love with all my heart.

689
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: Is totally a love based choice, love.

690
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: That would have taken a lot of bravery on not

691
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: just your side, but also his yea to like be

692
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: okay and to like to be okay, to hold the

693
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: space for healing and to face both of your shit.

694
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: I have a note here that I that I think

695
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: I must put off your website. The fear of caring

696
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: what people think is like a thing for you. So

697
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: I can see how it would have all been just

698
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: like yeah, and.

699
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: The Italian thing right leaving the expectation yeah, which I'm

700
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: now all about.

701
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well like that's the thing as well, Like

702
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: even when you said like your mom and I'm sure

703
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: she's like the most beautiful soul ever, but like things

704
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: you do massage and like like the day in my

705
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: podcast came out, the trailer came out yesterday. Dad was

706
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: the first person I showed it to, like straight away.

707
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: I was like Dad, He's like, yeah, show me how

708
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: to do it on my phone. I want to listen

709
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: to it on my phone. I'm like, yeah, man, this

710
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: is what you do. You've got the app. You don't

711
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: even need a thing, you don't even buy anything. It's there.

712
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: It's so I just listened to this every Monday. Yep,

713
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: you just listen to this every Monday. Like, and that

714
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: guy is like on my team and like and I

715
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: forget that, Like I could be like Dad, well you know,

716
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: I've got big dreams to do things I'm like, Dad,

717
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. Thing is like yeah, when do it?

718
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: And I forget how lucky I am that I've got

719
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: family that like, I'm my mom, I might I might

720
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: move here, I might do this. She's like, yeah, I'll

721
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: come visit. Like it's just. But then I can see,

722
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: like the like culturally, the Italian culture is beautiful. I mean,

723
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: it's love, it's passion, it's celebration, it's family, and it's just.

724
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: But it is completely different, and I can see how

725
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: like you would have felt in the infancy of nourish

726
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: energy quite alone, I imagine.

727
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

728
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I felt like a failure.

729
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely failure.

730
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: But would you would you like, I think you would

731
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: have regretted it if you didn't do it, like I

732
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: think if you didn't you know, I think you'd be

733
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: lost if you weren't doing this right now.

734
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know how I was doing my

735
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: corporate day job and I never hated it. I was

736
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: never I never, you know, felt pushed away from it

737
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 2: because I really hated my my day job.

738
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: But I the.

739
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: That I have today is way stronger.

740
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: I couldn't even it, couldn't even put them in the

741
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: same category.

742
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: Right there.

743
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 3: It's completely different.

744
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: So that's like passion based work as opposed to like

745
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: just kind of like that nine to five rat race

746
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: that you're doing what you think people expect you to do, yeah,

747
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: or what.

748
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: You think that you well and you're good at it,

749
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: so you just kind of just do it and.

750
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: Stay with it.

751
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to say something that's going to really rock

752
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: your boat. That option will come again for you. So

753
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: even though you're living your passion and purpose now, there

754
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: will be options in this career in nourished energy that

755
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: are the easy, safe option that you will think are

756
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: the way to go, and they may not be. So

757
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: you've got to keep that courageous energy not to give

758
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: you a life lesson or anything like it. You'll have

759
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: to keep it the whole way through.

760
00:37:59,760 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: Beau.

761
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: There are times when I've had to say no to

762
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: work that people think is crazy, and I'm like, well,

763
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what the dollar sign is. I don't

764
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: agree with the ethos of that brand, so I will

765
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: not be working with them and owning that and having

766
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: the courage to really truly much the bat of your

767
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: own drum, like really like and I get it. You've

768
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: got to think about the Munchkins and all of that,

769
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: or the Bambinos like and absolutely do. But when it

770
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: comes to ourish energy stuff, like the universe is still

771
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: going to throw lessons at you, good ones, like we

772
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: were talking about just before this, and I keep going

773
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: and I always say it to you. I'm like, this

774
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: is your baby, there's your third baby. That's the way

775
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: to look at it. Well, maybe first because it existed

776
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: before the kiddlings, you know, like I think, yeah, I

777
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: think like that bravery that you worked on with Jamie,

778
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: that bravery that you've worked on to get over your

779
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: eating disorder, that bravery you've worked on from that moment

780
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: we got the coffee and you're like, fuck it, I'm

781
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: going to leave my corporate job. Never lose that. And

782
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: that goes for anyone listening. If you've got a dream,

783
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: it's not like you're going to get there and be like, yeah,

784
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: I've got one hundred thousand followers, I'm making two hundred

785
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: grand a year, woo, like I've got this book deal

786
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: lah blah blah blah. Great, awesome, But unitedst stay courageous

787
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: enough to live your truth and to really like own it.

788
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I love that. I love I'm going

789
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: to I want to ask two questions that we're problem

790
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm probably going to throw you a curve ball. You

791
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: touched on it just before about like the ear thing

792
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: and listening and the metaphysical side. Just for people that

793
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: don't know much about metaphysical healing or what that kind

794
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: of means, can you, in a nutshell explain what metaphysics is? Yeah?

795
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: Sure, I guess.

796
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: I guess. When we in this type.

797
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: Of work that we do, so energy healing, quite often

798
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: people will come to see you and they a lot

799
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: of the times they come with an emotional sort of issue,

800
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: but at the back end they're also struggling with something

801
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: physical going on.

802
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: Back pain pain, Yeah, you're right, you know what.

803
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: I recurring cough that won't go away, that kind of stuff.

804
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: And it's really important to note that because the belief

805
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: is that everything about us is connected, right, So at

806
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: a soul level, there's.

807
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: Also the physical and emotional. Everything is connected.

808
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: So whatever's going on for you physically is a message

809
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: to you from your body to say, hey, hey, this

810
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: needs attention here. So in my case with the ear

811
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: it's hey, you're not listening to something that's really important here.

812
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: And they say, the more you ignore it, the worse

813
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: that can get. In yoga, when I teach you in

814
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: yoga and we talk to there's a pose called half

815
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: pigeon or sleeping sworn. It's a hip opener, and we

816
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: say hips hold our current energy and our current emotional shit.

817
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: When I say energy, sorry, your current emotional energy. So like,

818
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: whatever you're facing now, it's uncomfortable now. And the amount

819
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: of times like literally you don't even talk to it,

820
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: and you're just like, hey, guys, let's get into half pigeon.

821
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: End of the class. Put a nice song on, and

822
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: people come out just like bawling their eyes out because

823
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: it's such a release. Like the hips hold onto so

824
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: much tension, especially when you're sitting all day, like the

825
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: hips are kind of impinged really, So I just wanted

826
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: you to talk to that because I think metaphysical stuff

827
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: is so cool, and it's so cool. It's almost like

828
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: so simple, do you know what I mean? Like you've

829
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: got back pain? Is there something in the past you're

830
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: not sitting with? Do you know what I mean?

831
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 3: You're not feeling supportive? I like that.

832
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: Oh God, We've got to have more conversations quickly before

833
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: I let you go favorite crystal and wine. What it does?

834
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: Oh gotta ask it? Got you are all love? But

835
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: talk us through? What else does apart from you know,

836
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: love energy? What else does rose call? I mean?

837
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: Rose Coots is all about love.

838
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: It's about unconditional love and bringing love into your life

839
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: on all levels. And really that's what's the most important

840
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: out of life.

841
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 3: Love.

842
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: I love it and I'm just looking at there's a

843
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: massive chunk of rose cords right on a desk here,

844
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: and next to it, she's got a is it an

845
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: abalone shell? Yes, with Palo Santo in it. So Palo

846
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: Santo is used. I'm going to let you answer this,

847
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: but for cleansing. But it's different to white sage. So

848
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: if you want to do a cleanse at home, or

849
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: you've moved into a new apartment, or you're just like

850
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: I've had a shit fucking week and I want to

851
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: reset my energy, you can buy Palo Sando from like

852
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: health store, some health stores, hippy kind of crystal stores.

853
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: Tell me about Palo Santo.

854
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 2: It's basically called holywood, and it's from South America, usually

855
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: Ecuador or Peru. And basically you've got to wait until

856
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: the wood has fallen from the trees for it to

857
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 2: be sacred and for it to really work, the energy

858
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: needs to So you can't chop down a brand new tree.

859
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 1: Col I didn't know that.

860
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, otherwise it doesn't have the same yeah, same energy.

861
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of shitty sustainable, shitty stuff. Yeah,

862
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: so look for sustainable.

863
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying. Yeah, it's really important.

864
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: And you can tell because they're darker. Then that one's

865
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: a big mother.

866
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 3: That is a big, chunky one.

867
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so the reason why I use Palo santo

868
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 1: when I teach yoga and so I like it because

869
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: I know that it clears the energy, cleanses the energy,

870
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: but it also invites positivity and is that right?

871
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah it does.

872
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: Versus white sage that just is more of a cleanser. Yeah.

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00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: White sage is great for cleansing, especially if you've got

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Speaker 2: really dense shit stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: It's like lamb chops. Yeah, it's pretty gross, actually roast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people don't like it, but it

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Speaker 2: is good for really removing heavy, heavy stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good tip.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, I could talk to you all

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Speaker 1: day long. Thank you so so much for doing this

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Speaker 1: and thanks for being really open and vulnerable. I know,

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Speaker 1: like some stuff we talked about was a bit darker,

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Speaker 1: and I just thank you for that because I don't

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Speaker 1: think you can have the lightness without having maybe seen

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Speaker 1: or experienced some sort of darkness. And that sounds like

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Speaker 1: a morbid thing to say, but I think the darkness

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Speaker 1: is kind of like what brings the lightness, and at

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Speaker 1: least it makes us kind of like go for that,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, when you're on the right path, you're like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be back in the shit, Like

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Speaker 1: I know, I don't want to have an eating disorder again.

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Speaker 1: I'll feel that trigger and be like sit with it,

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Speaker 1: learn from it, and find the lighters. So thank you

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Speaker 1: for being so open and vulnerable. And guys, check out

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Speaker 1: Nourish Energy. Loretta is so gorgeous in every way. Physically,

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Speaker 1: yeah she's a hottie, but also energetically and she's just

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Speaker 1: a natural born healer. So I'm very grateful. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing.

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Speaker 1: As always, thank you to our guests, and let's continue

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