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Speaker 2: On the podcast, I have another ridiculously attractive farmer from
Speaker 2: Channel seven's latest series of Farmer Wants a Wife. It
Speaker 2: is Farmer Ben, who is quickly proving to be quite
Speaker 2: popular amongst the fans of the show. This year, as
Speaker 2: we know, five new farmers joined the series to find
Speaker 2: real love. In another exciting new season of Australia's favorite
Speaker 2: bush fairy Tale, which is one hundred percent getting juicier
Speaker 2: by the episode which continues on Channel seven and seven plus.
Speaker 2: Farmer Ben is taking the experience very seriously and he
Speaker 2: has been quite honest with the girls as he navigates
Speaker 2: his own feelings towards them. It is a great show
Speaker 2: to get invested in as we all secretly play judge
Speaker 2: and jury of who is right. For Farmer Ben, we
Speaker 2: will talk his connection with Leish, what that means for
Speaker 2: the other girls if he has already in his words,
Speaker 2: Doney's nuts, and of course we will talk about his
Speaker 2: romance with Farmer Will. However, let's get started with today's guest.
Speaker 2: I'd like to welcome Farmer Ben to TV Reload.
Speaker 3: Well, basically oscolated from the world.
Speaker 1: Five new farmers have been plucked from paddocks around the country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't even get me sad on my dance like
Speaker 3: you hope you're.
Speaker 2: Going to go to the farm.
Speaker 1: But at the same point in time I might not
Speaker 1: be what he's looking for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that crushed me to know they've come to two
Speaker 3: minutes of fame.
Speaker 2: Basically, it's all too much for one farmer.
Speaker 1: The end of the day, productions there to make the
Speaker 1: best possible TV shall.
Speaker 2: Please welcome Farmer Ben.
Speaker 3: Like I was falling head over it was for someone
Speaker 3: so early.
Speaker 2: Hi, Farmer Ben, how are you.
Speaker 3: I'm well, thank you? How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing really well? Congratulations on getting this opportunity. How
Speaker 2: have you gone watching the first week of the series.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to be honest, it's been quite cringe.
Speaker 1: I'm one of those types of people that don't take
Speaker 1: many photos of myself and find it hard.
Speaker 3: To look at myself in the mirror.
Speaker 1: So yeah, when I see myself on national TV, it's
Speaker 1: quite hard.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it is what it is. It's what I
Speaker 3: signed up for, but it is.
Speaker 1: A bit cringe you seeing myself on TV and sort
Speaker 1: of opening myself up and you haven't.
Speaker 2: Even seen yourself trying to dance on the dance floor
Speaker 2: coming up this week, so that's going to be fun
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't even get me sad on my dancers. I
Speaker 3: don't know where the whispers came from. They heard that
Speaker 3: I was a good dance of it. I'm far from it.
Speaker 1: And it's just like, yeah, they're concrete boots in the
Speaker 1: dance floor, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: The setup is so spectacular. Plus, what I really enjoy
Speaker 2: about your time on the series is that you look
Speaker 2: like you really are taking this whole experience of dating
Speaker 2: these girls seriously.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was definitely a very serious process for me.
Speaker 1: It was the reason I applied, and I was just
Speaker 1: at that stage in my life where i'd had put
Speaker 1: dating on the on the back burner, I suppose, And yeah,
Speaker 1: when there's opportunity arose, I thought, why not give it,
Speaker 1: give it my best crack and hopefully find a wife.
Speaker 3: Out of the out of the process.
Speaker 2: Is watching it all happen on television. How different does
Speaker 2: that feel to how it happened in real life?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so far it has definitely come across
Speaker 1: as the way it was.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 1: I think we all know things do come across a
Speaker 1: little differently than what you see when you're behind the camera,
Speaker 1: I suppose. So there's a lot of filming that goes
Speaker 1: into such a small addit.
Speaker 3: That's what I've sort of taken from it at the moment.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was only myself during the show, and yeah,
Speaker 1: the sincere, genuine person that I know I am, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely hope that sort of come across so far.
Speaker 2: You know, Farmer Will was already on the podcast and
Speaker 2: he mentioned that you guys have a bit of a bromance.
Speaker 2: If I'm a betting man, should I put more money
Speaker 2: on your bromance with Will turning out than the relationship
Speaker 2: with the girls?
Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be a gamble and that's what that's
Speaker 1: what punting's all about. So to be a big gamble,
Speaker 1: But Phil, there's fair, fair odds there for you to
Speaker 1: jump on.
Speaker 2: I also asked, will you know when he decided to
Speaker 2: do this show? I was. I was wondering whether or
Speaker 2: not he was more worried about hurting the girl's hearts
Speaker 2: or hurting his own heart. Were you worried about going
Speaker 2: in there and worried that you'd break your heart or
Speaker 2: were you more worried about breaking these girls heart?
Speaker 1: I think that was a bit of both. I suppose
Speaker 1: I've obviously been through a heartbreak before and it isn't nice,
Speaker 1: And yeah, to put the girls in that position as well,
Speaker 1: knowing you're in full control is difficult as well. And
Speaker 1: you've probably already seen tears, but there's a lot more
Speaker 1: tears to come from me. I'm a very sensitive person
Speaker 1: when it comes to people's feelings, and when I see someone.
Speaker 3: Upset, I sort of it just tips me over the edge.
Speaker 3: I'm hopeless.
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I crying kids movies, sitting down with my daughter,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Just feel for people and their emotion.
Speaker 1: But I sort of had to get myself together and
Speaker 1: realize this is what I signed up for, and I'm
Speaker 1: not here to have five wives, I'm here to have one.
Speaker 1: So it was all part of the process, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I did that to the best of my ability, but yeah,
Speaker 1: there were a lot of tears along the way for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, the show would be very different if it was
Speaker 2: moremon once a wife. You know, you did seem to
Speaker 2: have the most amount of difficulty sending girls home in
Speaker 2: week one. What was going through your mind? Was there
Speaker 2: a bit of fomo, like I can't send that girl
Speaker 2: home because fear of missing out on what they.
Speaker 1: Might have been Like, yeah, look, I had my I
Speaker 1: had my selection before I went into that room. I
Speaker 1: think having all the girls stood there in front of me,
Speaker 1: it's a real full on scene, and yeah, I had
Speaker 1: my choices already selected. But when I went into that room,
Speaker 1: it was completely different for me, and it sort of
Speaker 1: made me go back to realize what the girls had
Speaker 1: sort of put on the line to be there for
Speaker 1: me and something you probably won't see in the outside world.
Speaker 1: But COVID obviously did take its whole on the show,
Speaker 1: and there were numerous hotel isolations and were basically isolated
Speaker 1: from the world.
Speaker 3: So I know, myself.
Speaker 1: Putting me in a hotel room for isolation wasn't too
Speaker 1: much fun, and all the partners everyone had to go
Speaker 1: through the same process. So I only just thought of
Speaker 1: that when it came to making that decision, and how
Speaker 1: much the girls had genuinely given up in their own
Speaker 1: life to be there for me, And yeah, that crushed
Speaker 1: me to know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've come to two minutes of fame basically.
Speaker 2: You know what's also really hard is that, you know,
Speaker 2: you were meeting so many girls at the early stages
Speaker 2: of getting used to production. Is it hard to get
Speaker 2: used to the cameras? Do you feel like as the
Speaker 2: show goes on that you started to forget about them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very difficult at the start. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people that has to have at
Speaker 1: least got a two beer Andrew's belt to sort of
Speaker 1: start get talking.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: It's a very different situation to have so many cameras
Speaker 1: in your face and because yeah, it is hard to
Speaker 1: sort of open up and tell someone how you're feeling
Speaker 1: when there are so many eyes on you and looking
Speaker 1: in on you.
Speaker 2: This week, we saw you take leash back to be
Speaker 2: the first person to go back to the farm. Is
Speaker 2: that going to make it much harder to look at
Speaker 2: the other girls like, you know, having someone come back
Speaker 2: and have that intimate experience, and for you, you're sort
Speaker 2: of a self confessed person who falls pretty hard, you know,
Speaker 2: is that going to make it harder for the other
Speaker 2: girls to get a guernsey?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think if I didn't have feelings for all five
Speaker 1: girls coming back to the farmer, I wouldn't have brought
Speaker 1: all five girls.
Speaker 2: From the initial impression. Do you change your mind a lot?
Speaker 2: Or do you feel in the back of your mind
Speaker 2: that you kind of always knew from the start who
Speaker 2: you wanted.
Speaker 1: I think it all just comes down to timing, really,
Speaker 1: and how much sort of time you can put into
Speaker 1: each of the partners that have come. I think Tom
Speaker 1: is everything, and I suppose more Tom you can spend
Speaker 1: with someone in such short period is so important into
Speaker 1: making a decision in the long run.
Speaker 2: How do you think the other girls deal with, you know,
Speaker 2: the competition's side of things. You know, how do you
Speaker 2: think the girls are going I.
Speaker 1: Can't really talk on how that would be for the girls.
Speaker 1: I can only imagine what it would be like. I
Speaker 1: don't know how it'd sort of be able to handle
Speaker 1: it myself if I was in that position. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's obviously hard and finding out certain things that happen
Speaker 1: on dates and things like that, it must get hard
Speaker 1: for them. But yeah, I was always there for a
Speaker 1: shoulder to lean on and someone to talk to if
Speaker 1: they ever had an issue, And yeah, we were We
Speaker 1: were going through the process together, so that was the
Speaker 1: main thing.
Speaker 2: Do you think that Leish will cope with having to
Speaker 2: share you now with the other girls?
Speaker 3: I think yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Leish was very understandable of the process and
Speaker 1: how it worked. And yeah, the fact that she did
Speaker 1: get the first twenty four hour date, she was aware
Speaker 1: that they're probably wasn't going to be that much time
Speaker 1: with me in the next coming weeks. So yeah, she's
Speaker 1: a very mature head and understood the process, and yeah,
Speaker 1: probably understood that we weren't going to get that sort
Speaker 1: of one on one time for a little while.
Speaker 2: Yet. Well, I think every bloke in Australia is wanting
Speaker 2: to ask you this question, and that is what's the
Speaker 2: most awkward part in dating five women at once.
Speaker 1: I kept forgetting Madison was she was gluten free. She
Speaker 1: was dairy free everything like that. So I'd come out
Speaker 1: and make the girls a coffee of the morning and
Speaker 1: always forget of Madison's allergies, and I'd serve her up
Speaker 1: a cappuccino and she'd be like, got has that got
Speaker 1: ot milk? My sorry, I'll keep.
Speaker 3: Forgetting about that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I've sort of never dated someone with allergies
Speaker 1: like that before, So that was that was a bit
Speaker 1: bit hard to get used to. But I think there
Speaker 1: was there was a few situations there where some girls
Speaker 1: would come visit over night time after the cameras had
Speaker 1: stopped rolling, and yeah, they'd get caught sort of coming
Speaker 1: back from going to visit you and.
Speaker 3: Things like that. So yeah, things to get very awkward
Speaker 3: in that regard, which.
Speaker 2: Is the reason why you had to start poisoning them,
Speaker 2: you know, early on, just to just to narrow it
Speaker 2: down a little bit. What sort of confidence did you
Speaker 2: have that you would actually walk away from this competition
Speaker 2: with a wife.
Speaker 3: I suppose I didn't really know what I was going
Speaker 3: in for.
Speaker 1: I obviously hoped and had confidence there that I would
Speaker 1: find someone. I know, Yeah, signing up for farm more
Speaker 1: ONTs a wife. It is proven to be the most
Speaker 1: genuine show. So I was very confident in going into
Speaker 1: the process and finding that life at the end.
Speaker 2: And I mean you're a father as well. Just factoring
Speaker 2: in your daughter have an effect on the type of
Speaker 2: girl that you're trying to choose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hugely. I've got to pick someone that's that's not
Speaker 3: only great for me, but great for my daughter as well.
Speaker 3: And she does. I've always said she doesn't need a mother.
Speaker 1: She's got She's got a beautiful mother that that's yeah.
Speaker 3: Doing that job just fine.
Speaker 1: But I just I just need money my life to
Speaker 1: be that sort of mother motherlike role model on my
Speaker 1: side of the family for my daughter.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I just love that they're coming up on
Speaker 2: the show. Is this mini B and S Ball, which
Speaker 2: I've got friends that are in the country, so I
Speaker 2: know a lot about a B and S Ball. I've
Speaker 2: heard a lot about them, But I want to know,
Speaker 2: do you think the people's true colors come out when
Speaker 2: you mix dancing and a few drinks at a B
Speaker 2: and S Ball? Is that one of the reasons why
Speaker 2: they're creating that for the show?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the country ball we had, I think, Yeah, sometimes
Speaker 1: in some cases people's true colors come out once you've
Speaker 1: had probably a few beers or a few ones, So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was interesting. There were some, as Benjamin would say,
Speaker 1: some very groovy dances happening on the dance floor that night.
Speaker 1: But things get heated, and yeah, I suppose the truth
Speaker 1: some truths come out once, once someone's had a few
Speaker 1: drinks under their belt.
Speaker 2: Is it dangerous to put all of you guys together?
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the chances of you falling in love
Speaker 2: with save Benjamin's you know potentials? Like were the producers
Speaker 2: worried that you might run off with someone else's cattle?
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think US farmers had such a great relationship, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a bit. It's a respect factor, I suppose, and
Speaker 1: we all had so much respect for one another that
Speaker 1: that wouldn't have even been an option for any of
Speaker 1: US farmers. Whether it was an option for the other partners,
Speaker 1: I'm not too sure, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing like that carried out.
Speaker 1: And yeah, back to that whole respect thing, I think
Speaker 1: US farmers just had so much respect for one another
Speaker 1: that would never do that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: You can really see that there is a camaraderie amongst
Speaker 2: the Farmers this year. I mean straight away from episode one,
Speaker 2: you can see the connection between you all, which I
Speaker 2: think is an extra element to this series. That you
Speaker 2: guys aren't throwing drinks at each other or you know,
Speaker 2: there's nothing too dramatic about it. You're just common people
Speaker 2: sharing common life experience, all looking for love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great, Like we're all sort of around
Speaker 1: that same age bracket. There wasn't anyone that was a
Speaker 1: lot older or a lot younger than us, so we
Speaker 1: could sort of, yeah, gel with one another, talk about
Speaker 1: very similar interest and yeah, all in all, we just
Speaker 1: had such a great relationship and we were there to
Speaker 1: help each other along the way.
Speaker 3: Through the process we're all going through together.
Speaker 2: What do you think's really works with this format? You know,
Speaker 2: for you is there anything that the producers could do differently,
Speaker 2: you know, rolling into the twenty twenty three series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I've mentioned it before, but it would have
Speaker 1: would have been nice to be able to talk to
Speaker 1: a previous farmer from a previous year and sort of
Speaker 1: have their knowledge on how things work. Obviously US farms
Speaker 1: going very blind into knowing how production works. So I
Speaker 1: think just having someone there along the way helping us
Speaker 1: that's been in that situation before that they can get
Speaker 1: along with all the farmers and relate to them when
Speaker 1: they do have questions to ask on how production works,
Speaker 1: how do we get get through this? Because yeah, under
Speaker 1: the day, productions there to make the best possible TV
Speaker 1: show and where they're to find love. So it's about
Speaker 1: meeting in the middle to sort.
Speaker 3: Of get the best of both worlds for both parties.
Speaker 2: It's what I always wonder about this show is, you know,
Speaker 2: with so many producers, cameraman, you know, runners, there's so
Speaker 2: many people working on this show to make it happen.
Speaker 2: Are they like thousands of cupids around you, trying to
Speaker 2: push you into finding love? Or do they try and
Speaker 2: hold back so that the experience is being captured naturally?
Speaker 2: What sort of role do they play? Are they saying, hey,
Speaker 2: I reckon that, you know, Leish is the better one
Speaker 2: to go with? Like, is there any kind of input
Speaker 2: that they have?
Speaker 1: Yeah, most of the input obviously comes from from the
Speaker 1: producers themselves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the cameramen and soundos.
Speaker 1: Sort of stay out of that, otherwise they get themselves
Speaker 1: in trouble with it with the producers.
Speaker 2: But I'm just imagining them the two thumbs up, you know,
Speaker 2: just in the background going yeah, I reckon, Yeah, a
Speaker 2: good one.
Speaker 1: I had a great relationship with my with my cameraman sounders,
Speaker 1: and yeah, the things you'd hear that had come back
Speaker 1: to is would be quite funny. But no, they never
Speaker 1: push that, never pushed me to make decisions that I
Speaker 1: didn't want to do. So yeah, it was a lot
Speaker 1: better knowing that I wasn't forced to have to do
Speaker 1: something that I didn't want to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. What sort of impression do you think
Speaker 2: that Australia will have of you when this series is over?
Speaker 2: Sort of looking forward and knowing what you know, what
Speaker 2: do you think Australia is going to think of farmer Ben?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Look, I just hope I come across as a
Speaker 1: very genuine, down to worth person like I know I am,
Speaker 1: and my family know me as as well. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it'd be great to, yeah, be sort of looked at
Speaker 1: in that regard. But yeah, obviously to know that I
Speaker 1: did go on the show for a reason to find
Speaker 1: a wife, and you'll just have to yeah, wait and
Speaker 1: see if I've done that.
Speaker 2: Have we got any early report cards from your family
Speaker 2: and friends on how you're going so far.
Speaker 3: We're sort of keeping it pretty hush hush about it.
Speaker 1: Obviously I am comfortable watching it, but it is a
Speaker 1: bit cringe at the moment for me, so we just yeah,
Speaker 1: we're keeping pretty low low wraps on it at the moment,
Speaker 1: but yeah, once we sort of get further down the.
Speaker 3: Track, I'm sure it'll yes start being the talk of
Speaker 3: the town for sure.
Speaker 2: You know a question that I have to ask you
Speaker 2: from Sunday Nights episode is something that you a phrase
Speaker 2: that you say a couple of times? What does done
Speaker 2: my nuts mean?
Speaker 3: Done my nuts? I do remember saying that.
Speaker 2: It comes up three times. You tell three different people
Speaker 2: that you've done your nuts. You tell her, you tell Leish,
Speaker 2: you tell one of the other, you tell everyone. You're like,
Speaker 2: you know, guys, I've done my nuts, And I'm like
Speaker 2: is it? I just was like, is it? I don't
Speaker 2: know what You're going to need to explain this a
Speaker 2: little bit better for me.
Speaker 3: I think it was. Yeah, it was definitely in regards
Speaker 3: to Leish and yeah.
Speaker 2: Have you got a bag of nuts? Or is that
Speaker 2: what's going on here?
Speaker 1: I don't know where I was going with it, but
Speaker 1: I've used a phrase before. But I think it was
Speaker 1: just a connection I had with Leish early on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I sort of tell the farmers told her I've done
Speaker 1: me nuts, like it's like I've I've fallen head over.
Speaker 1: It was for someone so early, but yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's what I meant by that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, by that phrase, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2: Why do you think that Farmer Wants a Wife is
Speaker 2: still so popular in Australia.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it is a very just genuine TV program.
Speaker 1: There's obviously a bit of drama that comes with it,
Speaker 1: but it's nothing like other dating programs with the drama.
Speaker 3: It's very genuine.
Speaker 1: And the girls are there for the right reasons and
Speaker 1: the farmers are as well. We're not there it's for
Speaker 1: media attention after the program or anything. So it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a win win because both parties are there for
Speaker 1: the exact same thing, and that's to find love. And
Speaker 1: I think that's yeah what makes the show so special
Speaker 1: and so watchable for the audience as well.
Speaker 2: I still think that Farmer Will has a job as
Speaker 2: like the weatherman regional weather man. Even at the very
Speaker 2: least Batman has a face for breakfast television. People want
Speaker 2: to up and look at that man, so I think
Speaker 2: that he could end up with a job in the media.
Speaker 1: Once OUs Farmer's got released. I was dreading rocking up
Speaker 1: first day. I mean, my sister had a massive crush
Speaker 1: on this farmer Will before I'd met him, so I
Speaker 1: was a bit starstruck when I first.
Speaker 3: Met the bloke as well.
Speaker 1: But I'd have to second look at him all the
Speaker 1: time and make sure he wasn't wearing a face of makeup.
Speaker 1: He's just I don't know what it is. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no other farm probably no man in Australia that
Speaker 1: looks the way he does, so lucky him.
Speaker 3: I suppose.
Speaker 1: But yeah, whenever us farmers got put together, I'd try
Speaker 1: and hide at the back for sure.
Speaker 3: And yeah, let Wills face sell the show for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's a good looking rooster.
Speaker 3: He certainly is well.
Speaker 2: I can tell you that at this point of the series,
Speaker 2: we're starting to remember the girl's names. We're no longer
Speaker 2: saying coral dress is a bit needy, you know, We're
Speaker 2: starting to actually know who they all are before you go.
Speaker 2: Something I ask everyone is what is something from behind
Speaker 2: the scenes, something that we did see or that we
Speaker 2: won't see. Kind of a behind the scenes secret on
Speaker 2: your experience of Farmer wants a wife. I will just
Speaker 2: say that Will said about your bromance, and so you
Speaker 2: can't bring up the bromance and otherwise people are going
Speaker 2: to think you guys are going to get together. So
Speaker 2: I think anything from behind the scenes that you can
Speaker 2: tell us that we won't see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, behind the scenes that there was. There was a
Speaker 3: lot of fun we had.
Speaker 1: We had days off on the farm, so it'd be
Speaker 1: a chance for us, for myself and the girls that
Speaker 1: were on the farm to sort of let our let
Speaker 1: our hair down and have a bit of fun with
Speaker 1: one another while the cameras weren't rolling, and it was
Speaker 1: probably the best days.
Speaker 3: We were able to sort of open up.
Speaker 1: And and act like normal people with the cameras away.
Speaker 1: So there were many cocktails and things drunk, yeah, alongside
Speaker 1: the pool and yeah, just days like that you won't
Speaker 1: see on camera, but they were definitely the most yeah,
Speaker 1: important days, I suppose, because we could just let our
Speaker 1: hair down and have fun with one another with a
Speaker 1: few cocktails in here.
Speaker 2: And you've also got a pool at your place, which
Speaker 2: is great because farmer Will has to keep taking his
Speaker 2: to the dam, so like at least you've got easy
Speaker 2: access of getting them in the water.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then I have to say thank you so much for
Speaker 2: taking the time to have a chat. It was fantastic
Speaker 2: to unpack Farmer wants a wife with you. Good luck
Speaker 2: with the show and I hope you'll find love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not a problem. Thank you very much