WEBVTT - Chloe Szep’s Shock Hospitalisation, Martha & Michael's Strategic Birth Plan & Pixie Curtis Announces Semi-Retirement At Age 11

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>On today's episode, Chloe's Epp is hospitalized after blacking out

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<v Speaker 2>behind the wheel of her car. Pixie Curtis announces her

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<v Speaker 2>semi retirement at age eleven. Molly May's baby daddy Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>Fury defeats Shake. Paul and Martha Callifertitas's strategic birth plan. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest

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<v Speaker 2>influencer and pop culture used twice a week. I'm Amy

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<v Speaker 2>Torva and so now the Kate's wedding is out of

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<v Speaker 2>the way, attention has turned to you and I and

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<v Speaker 2>what we're doing specifically for our hen's party. And this

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<v Speaker 2>has been a bit of an issue for you because

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<v Speaker 2>you're having to navigate a hen's party where you've got bridesmen.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, do they come to it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they go to Brandon's. Well, the whole reason that

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<v Speaker 2>I ask them to be my bride'smen is because I

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<v Speaker 2>want them involved and I enjoy spending time with them.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like they're more a bit resistant to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like they're worried that it's going to be awkward,

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<v Speaker 2>that there might be a stripper or all lots of penis stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't want a day like that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that different genders work really well at

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<v Speaker 2>these sort of events because not everyone has friends that

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<v Speaker 2>are just the same sex, and you feel bad because

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<v Speaker 2>then you're excluding your very best friends. Also, it works

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<v Speaker 2>really well for me because Brandon's sister is his best man,

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<v Speaker 2>and she is basically planning the whole thing. She's got

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<v Speaker 2>it all organized already, and I don't have to fret

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<v Speaker 2>that there's topless waitresses or strippers or anything untoward that's

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<v Speaker 2>been planned. I wonder if there'll be a new trend

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<v Speaker 2>starting to emerge where people are holding joint hens and

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<v Speaker 2>Bucks fidies, because I've actually seen that with baby showers.

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<v Speaker 2>Now people just have baby barbecues and couples come along.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think we'll get to that stage? I think

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<v Speaker 2>we will, because I think that Bucks parties and Hen's

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<v Speaker 2>parties are just becoming a lot more tamer, particularly because

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<v Speaker 2>people are getting married older. So you've been with that

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<v Speaker 2>person for such a long amount of time that you've

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<v Speaker 2>already are in that stable relationship. You're not thinking it's

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<v Speaker 2>this last night of freedom because you haven't been free

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<v Speaker 2>for ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>See.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's the people that you're hanging around

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<v Speaker 2>soft because I still hear of people doing the stereotypical

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<v Speaker 2>wild and Bucks party. But how did those end?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that they end well, No, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I've heard of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bucks party recently where a number of close friends weren't

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<v Speaker 2>invited because the groomsmen completely forgot. They weren't organized, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a proper list. They then hit the guests

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<v Speaker 2>up with a bill two months later for their alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>and food because originally they're like, nah, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then everyone went nuts and I hit them up with

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<v Speaker 2>a bill like I can't ask after the event for

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<v Speaker 2>people to pay.

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<v Speaker 3>Al Right, guys, welcome back to our channel.

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<v Speaker 2>So today's video is going to be a finished house

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<v Speaker 2>tour log because we did the empty house tour but

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been through since everything's done. CHLOE'SZEP was rushed to

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<v Speaker 2>hospital on Thursday after suffering a blackout or driving with

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<v Speaker 2>her baby Sonny Kate, what happened, well, Chloe said, after

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<v Speaker 2>temporarily blacking out behind the wheel, she pulled over and

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<v Speaker 2>called an ambulance and she was driving, as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>with her five month old son in the back and

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<v Speaker 2>was worried it would happen again. So Chloe had shared

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<v Speaker 2>earlier in the week that she hadn't been feeling well,

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<v Speaker 2>and after the medical emergency, wrote on her Instagram story

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<v Speaker 2>that she hadn't been feeling herself for a while now

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<v Speaker 2>and was going to get an MIRI and a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of other tests to hopefully see what was going on now.

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<v Speaker 2>Chloe's partner, Mitch or Will, rushed to be by her

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<v Speaker 2>side in hospital, and the pair both began sharing selfies

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<v Speaker 2>of Chloe hooked up to monitors. So Mitch also let

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<v Speaker 2>his followers know that he wouldn't be leaving Chloe's side,

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<v Speaker 2>sharing that the chair next to Chloe's bed would be

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<v Speaker 2>his bed for the night. He also thanked his brother

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan for looking after Artie and Sonny Now. Chloe's controversial

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<v Speaker 2>sister Kate Zepp also visited and she shared a photo

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<v Speaker 2>of Chloe in bed with the caption get better soon, Sis.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you guys think about people sharing that they're

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<v Speaker 2>in hospital? This is something that not just influences do,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've seen other people I know sharing that they're

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<v Speaker 2>in hospital. Is it a bit of tension seeking? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean when they share that they're in hospital where

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<v Speaker 2>they don't actually disclose what's wrong with them, because I

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<v Speaker 2>find that's sometimes quite attention seeking, and also it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a sponsible because people panic and go,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, what's wrong with them? Yeah, I tend

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<v Speaker 2>to agree with you. It does create panic, and I

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<v Speaker 2>suppose a lot of attention is then put towards that person,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly at this point because I don't know what caused

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<v Speaker 2>the blackout. I do feel bad because it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>awkward because last week's episode, I said, what are they

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<v Speaker 2>going to do next?

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<v Speaker 1>For attention?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that this is genuinely something terrible that

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<v Speaker 2>has happened, and I feel for the family. Very scary

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<v Speaker 2>when you've got a child in the car, an awful situation.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think in these sorts of circumstances, stay

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<v Speaker 2>offline and once you know what's going on and you

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<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable to talk about it, then talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's just going to be so much speculation around

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<v Speaker 2>what is wrong with Chloe's EPP and that's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Because influencer updates Au was quick to share the news

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<v Speaker 2>of Chloe's hospital visit. It also, of course made the

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<v Speaker 2>Daily Mail, and the post was flooded with negative comments,

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<v Speaker 2>mostly calling Chloe out for using Western medicine when it

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<v Speaker 2>suits her. I did chuckle at some of these comments.

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<v Speaker 2>You're about it as it is, I know, but so

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<v Speaker 2>One person wrote, so western medicine only suits when it

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<v Speaker 2>suits and another said why didn't you just go down

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<v Speaker 2>to the beach at sunrise and hold a crystal? Someone

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<v Speaker 2>else wrote how she tried moonwater. So this comment actually

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<v Speaker 2>caught the attention of Chloe's sister Kate, who replied, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you should drink some. Get off the tap worter, it's showing.

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<v Speaker 2>So Kate's response caused anarchy in the comments section, with

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<v Speaker 2>many people jumping in to attack her. So someone replied,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't you assault someone?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>This is alleged. Another person wrote how many toxins are

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<v Speaker 2>in your breast im plants, and someone else said maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the moonwater can help with you not assaulting people now.

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<v Speaker 2>These comments are in reference to the allegations that Kate

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<v Speaker 2>sep assaulted a woman at the Wildland's Music festival and

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<v Speaker 2>stole her back. Again, these are just allegations. So Kate

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<v Speaker 2>did crack it in the comments. She ended up calling

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<v Speaker 2>people a bunch of seas with no lives, and she said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm embarrassed for you. What was embarrassing about that comment

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<v Speaker 2>for her was she used the number four to write it.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if she wrote this on her iPad. She

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<v Speaker 2>the one uses the iPad. Yeah, yeah, but the iPad

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<v Speaker 2>is no different in terms of the keyboard. Anyway, back

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<v Speaker 2>to these comments. I did think it was poor form

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<v Speaker 2>kicking someone.

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<v Speaker 1>While they're down.

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<v Speaker 2>And I suppose that these shows maybe not to jump

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<v Speaker 2>on social media and share that you're in hospital before

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<v Speaker 2>people know the full story, because I can imagine people

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<v Speaker 2>are making these comments in jest. But what happens if

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<v Speaker 2>there is something seriously wrong with Chloe? And how bad

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<v Speaker 2>are these people going to feel? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>On Sunday, Chloe shared an update to her Instagram story

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<v Speaker 2>revealing she was suffering from burnout. She wrote, burnout is

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<v Speaker 2>real and I didn't even realize it was happening, but

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<v Speaker 2>my body was legit shutting down because it couldn't cope.

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<v Speaker 2>I had two panic attacks, which was super scary. She

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<v Speaker 2>then went on to say she was taking iron tablets,

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<v Speaker 2>which were helping her in the short term with her

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<v Speaker 2>dizziness and weakness while she undertook more tests. Chloe then

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<v Speaker 2>shared a list of things she was doing to recharge,

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<v Speaker 2>which included asking family and friends for support, talking about

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<v Speaker 2>her mental state with family, crying and expressing her feelings,

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<v Speaker 2>minimizing phone use and overstimulation, and resting more. She then

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<v Speaker 2>finished by saying, you will explain more soon and thank

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<v Speaker 2>people for their beautiful messages now. Later in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>Chloe shared a photo of her crying in bed with

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<v Speaker 2>the caption postpartum anxiety is hectic. I'm learning a lot

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<v Speaker 2>and I will share more when I'm ready. That's really

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<v Speaker 2>sad to see, and I do wonder if these references

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<v Speaker 2>to sharing more are about. Her upcoming podcast with Mitchell

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<v Speaker 2>Orville was.

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<v Speaker 3>A celebration of not only her eleventh birthday but her business.

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<v Speaker 3>She's got a toy business which we started in COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>Her idea.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember at the time my mom was like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you're far too late to jump on the sensory toy wagon.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, no, no, she thinks it's a thing,

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<v Speaker 3>So we did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Australia's wealthiest tween, Pixie Curtis, has announced her semi retirement

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<v Speaker 2>at the Ripe Old age of eleven, the daughter of

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<v Speaker 2>PR Queen Roxy de Senko, is taking a step back

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<v Speaker 2>from her toy empire to focus on high school. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>can you tell us more? Well, like any good CEO,

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<v Speaker 2>Pixie is stepping back slowly from her toy company, hence

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<v Speaker 2>the semi retirement. Pixi's mummager and PR Queen Roxy Jasenko

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<v Speaker 2>told news dot com dot Au that the vision wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>made lightly and it was made together as a family.

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<v Speaker 2>She said in short, over the past few months, we

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<v Speaker 2>have been discussing the business plans going forward as a

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<v Speaker 2>family and decided that while it has been an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>journey starting some three years ago, it was time to refocus.

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<v Speaker 2>With high school just around the corner, Roxy said. Pixie's

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<v Speaker 2>pix online store, which previously sold her bows and toys,

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<v Speaker 2>will be going back to how it began and just

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<v Speaker 2>selling her Pixies bows. So Pixie originally started out spooking

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<v Speaker 2>these hair accessories, but launched a fidget spinner business during

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic, which reportedly made two hundred thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>its first month, and Pixie took to Instagram to share

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<v Speaker 2>her excitement at returning to her original passion. She shared

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<v Speaker 2>a photo of herself as a very young child and wrote,

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<v Speaker 2>me as a little girl from Pixie's bows. Time to

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<v Speaker 2>hang my toy shoes up and go back to where

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<v Speaker 2>it all began. I love that she says me as

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<v Speaker 2>a little girl when she is in fact still a

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<v Speaker 2>little girl.

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<v Speaker 1>She's only eleven years old. The whole thing is wild

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<v Speaker 1>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you guys surprised by the news. I'm surprised because

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<v Speaker 2>this was obviously a huge revenue stream for Pixie. I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if she's doing away with it because she is

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<v Speaker 2>getting older, she's becoming a teenager, and maybe toys aren't

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<v Speaker 2>really the right thing for her to be pushing. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see her brother take over the store or start

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<v Speaker 2>selling his own toys. What's funny you say that because

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<v Speaker 2>Roxy has already started a brand for Hunter. The thing

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<v Speaker 2>is I was originally surprised when I heard the news.

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<v Speaker 2>Roxy has previously joked in interviews that Pixie could retire

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<v Speaker 2>at fifteen, but she's only eleven. However, after thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>it more, I definitely don't think that this semi retirement

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<v Speaker 2>is permanent. I think it's being used as a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to pivot her business. News dot com do Au, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a publication that interviewed Roxy about pixie semi retirement,

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<v Speaker 2>later reported a very interesting twist.

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<v Speaker 1>So they claim.

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<v Speaker 2>Sources told them that Go to Skincare founder Zoe Foster

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<v Speaker 2>Blake was holding crisis meetings after rumors began circulating that

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<v Speaker 2>Pixie was launching her own beauty range.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder where that rumor came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Roxy is the Queen of pr and I follow

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<v Speaker 2>her on Instagram and she's been sharing so many videos

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<v Speaker 2>of Pixie. For example, they were on a plane the

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<v Speaker 2>other day going first class and there she is with

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<v Speaker 2>her face mask and she's like eleven. She's already doing

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<v Speaker 2>all of the sort of grown up routine. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it, there's not really a big market

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<v Speaker 2>for say, tweens and makeup, and someone like Pixie could

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<v Speaker 2>really dominate in that space. So when she announced her decision,

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<v Speaker 2>Roxy said she was making the move to continue to

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<v Speaker 2>build her own brands, Pixie's Picks and her Candle Company,

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<v Speaker 2>whilst managing her talent agency, which is called Ministry of Talent.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like Roxy has realized that you can

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<v Speaker 2>make more money in e commerce rather than a service

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<v Speaker 2>based business. Like a PR firm, definitely, And while Roxy

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<v Speaker 2>always talks up Pixie's entrepreneurial skills, it is quite clear

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<v Speaker 2>that Pixie is just the face of these brands. Roxy

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<v Speaker 2>is the brains behind the operation. I'm sure she is

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<v Speaker 2>getting some input from her children, but let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>When Pixie was, you know, one year old, she's not

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<v Speaker 2>really making the bow company herself. I get that. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a bit unfair to Pixie, though. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>how because she would be choosing different toys, she's being

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<v Speaker 2>guided by I think. I mean, we're obviously not all

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<v Speaker 2>naive enough to think that a one year old is

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<v Speaker 2>creating a bow business, but I think it's a bit

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<v Speaker 2>unfair to sort of take that away from her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that's Roxy's ability to work with her

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<v Speaker 2>daughter and find out what kids want, and then she

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<v Speaker 2>puts it into a strategic plan and is the brains

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<v Speaker 2>behind the marketing and all of the strategic business stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't say that that's Pixie. I think if this

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<v Speaker 2>tween skincare company is to be believed, it's clear that

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<v Speaker 2>that is a true passion of Pixies, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that she would be steering her mum in the right

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<v Speaker 2>direction of undertaking something like that, because I think for Pixie,

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<v Speaker 2>there's probably not many things on the market for her,

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<v Speaker 2>which would lead Roxy to believe, Hey, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>put something on the market between do we really want

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<v Speaker 2>to be pushing skincare routines on tweens so there's enough

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<v Speaker 2>for them to worry about going into high school? Then

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, I've got to do a face scrub

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<v Speaker 2>and on my paws too big. Look, I definitely agree

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<v Speaker 2>with you. I don't think it's something that should be

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<v Speaker 2>put out there, but I think it's only a natural

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<v Speaker 2>progression where TikTok is at the moment. You know, teenagers

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<v Speaker 2>are the biggest market on the platform, and it's full

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<v Speaker 2>of makeup routines, skin routines. I wonder, though, do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that the toy company was tanking and rather than

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<v Speaker 2>saying that they've spun it, that Pixie is retiring because

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<v Speaker 2>she's so successful, Because I think that's a very clever

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<v Speaker 2>strategy and it builds her up for investors wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>be a part of this next venture when she comes

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<v Speaker 2>out of retirement, like a very good pr story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that could be.

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<v Speaker 2>The case, particularly because the business did seem to do

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<v Speaker 2>so well over COVID. Maybe when kids were stuck at

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<v Speaker 2>home they wanted things to play with. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>is more so that Pixie doesn't really connect with the

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<v Speaker 2>brand anymore, and it does make sense for her to

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<v Speaker 2>move on to something that's more age appropriate. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's also something that's been very easy for other companies

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<v Speaker 2>to replicate their own fidget toys. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>was taking though. Remember we saw that huge celebration that

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<v Speaker 2>she did. It was at a nightclub and it caused

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of controversy. I think they've gone, we can't

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<v Speaker 2>have an eleven year old spooking fidget spinners anymore. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make any sense. Well then why not pass it

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<v Speaker 2>on to the little boy?

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<v Speaker 3>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because it's called Pixie's Picks. Yeah, but the websites

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<v Speaker 2>about her fidget spinners. I do think that there is

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<v Speaker 2>potential that it was taking. And they're like, look at

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<v Speaker 2>the makeup industry, look at the skincare industry. There are

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<v Speaker 2>so many billionaires that come from these industries. The toy

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<v Speaker 2>industry is a hard industry to crack, particularly when people

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<v Speaker 2>can just come up with a very similar toy. Any

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<v Speaker 2>good business person knows when to move on and to

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<v Speaker 2>pivot the business, and I think that's what they're doing here,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's going to be a really good

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<v Speaker 2>move for them.

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<v Speaker 3>So I would like for you to explain what I

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<v Speaker 3>saw when I opened my eyes at the spa.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, I was face down on the bed and the

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<v Speaker 2>next minute it felt like a big, big spy that

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<v Speaker 2>jumped on my back and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was the Masseuse.

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<v Speaker 1>She was on all fours, standing on my back.

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<v Speaker 2>She wasn't taking hint. So basically I thought like if

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<v Speaker 2>I just put on a bit of a like a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of facial expressions, stop Basically she just went harder.

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<v Speaker 2>Mollie may Haig's baby daddy, Tommy Fury, has taken home

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<v Speaker 2>a six million dollar paycheck after defeating YouTuber Jake Paul

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<v Speaker 2>in their highly anticipated boxing match. Tommy had his newborn

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<v Speaker 2>daughter's name, Bambi, emblazoned across his shorts as he took

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<v Speaker 2>out the win in Saudia, Arabia. Now, so this fight

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<v Speaker 2>full of controversy. So it was a pretty controversial fight

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<v Speaker 2>and has been so much hype around this fight because

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<v Speaker 2>of the high profile nature of the boxers, but also

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<v Speaker 2>because it's been such a long time coming. So Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>pulled out of the fight against Jake back in December

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one due to a broken rib and a

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<v Speaker 2>chest infection, and the fight was rescheduled for August last year,

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<v Speaker 2>but Tommy had to pull out again because he had

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<v Speaker 2>issues with his US visa. Now, when the new fight

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<v Speaker 2>was announced for late feb Jake jumped on Twitter and

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<v Speaker 2>announced Tommy and Molly's baby news before them. So he wrote,

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy has no excuse now baby's born. Money's massive immigration

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<v Speaker 2>no issue. This led the couple to then announce a

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<v Speaker 2>few days later that their baby Bambi had in fact

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<v Speaker 2>been born, and confirmed that they waited a week to

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<v Speaker 2>break the news to the world. Now under this post,

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<v Speaker 2>Jake stirred shit. He wrote, just in time to watch

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<v Speaker 2>your dad get knocked out now. I find it quite

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<v Speaker 2>funny because in a joint interview that Jake and Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>did before the fight, Jake came in bearing. So he

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<v Speaker 2>explained that he'd bought a designer gift for baby Bambi

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<v Speaker 2>as a sorry gesture. They'll add that to the pile

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<v Speaker 2>of other designer items that I'm sure this baby already owns.

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<v Speaker 2>I do wonder how Ellie Belly is feeling because normally

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<v Speaker 2>the couple's plush toy elephant is a feature on Tommy's

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<v Speaker 2>boxing uniform, which is funny in itself, but this time

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<v Speaker 2>he had his daughter's name, as you said earlier, emblazoned

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<v Speaker 2>on his uniform. And I suppose that this is paying

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<v Speaker 2>homage to the fact that he has left his four

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<v Speaker 2>week old daughter back in Manchester to go do this fight.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it was a huge sacrifice for both Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>and Molly. Yeah. I love the touch of the daughter's name.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so cute because it was spelt out in

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<v Speaker 2>yellow glitter with this butterfly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do love the fact that.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't seem to care what his opponents think because

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<v Speaker 2>it is obviously a very masculine sport. And he has

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<v Speaker 2>had a plush toy elephant on his uniform and now

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<v Speaker 2>his daughter, Bambi's name. I'm surprised Jake Paul doesn't pay

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<v Speaker 2>this out a little bit more. If that was me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be hon it well. In the postmatch interviews, Tommy said,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to dedicate this fight to my new baby girl,

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<v Speaker 2>Bamby at home and my miss I love you and

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>This fight was for you. This belt is for you, Bambi.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just getting even bigger deal vibes, isn't he?

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<v Speaker 1>He's very cute. I do love it now.

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<v Speaker 2>After the results of the fight came through, Molly wrote

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram, the pressure was on this boy's shoulders. I

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<v Speaker 2>will never know how he dealt with it. Never been

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<v Speaker 2>more proud of anyone in my life. Get home to us,

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<v Speaker 2>our champ. Ever since Molly May was named the creative

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<v Speaker 2>director of Pretty Little Things, there's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>discussion and Molly has been sort of put forward as

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<v Speaker 2>the bread winner out of Tommy and Molly. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I was so surprised to hear just how much

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<v Speaker 2>money Tommy has been making from boxing, in particular this fight. So.

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<v Speaker 2>According to sporting website sports Zion, Tommy was paid a

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<v Speaker 2>guaranteed two million dollars as a bay salary for this fight.

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<v Speaker 2>If he won the match, he would then gain a

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<v Speaker 2>further one million dollars as a winning bonus, and just

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<v Speaker 2>before the fight, Jake said that he would pay Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>an extra five hundred thousand dollars from his own earnings

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<v Speaker 2>if Tommy was to win. And on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy was guaranteed thirty five percent of the profits earned

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<v Speaker 2>from the pay per view stream, which is absolutely massive

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<v Speaker 2>bank for the guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Funnily enough, though, even though Jake Paul lost the fight,

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<v Speaker 2>he actually went home with more money. So his base

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<v Speaker 2>salary was set at three point two million dollars before

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<v Speaker 2>the fight, and then on top of that, he was

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<v Speaker 2>guaranteed sixty five percent of profits from the pay per

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<v Speaker 2>view stream, and this is due to his huge popularity.

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<v Speaker 2>When I saw that Tommy had won, my mind instantly

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<v Speaker 2>went to, well, Jake Paul has also won in this scenario,

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<v Speaker 2>which I didn't even know Sophie that he earned that

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<v Speaker 2>much money. But it's not surprising because at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, these fights are entertainment.

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<v Speaker 1>See. I wasn't ultra.

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<v Speaker 2>Surprise because there was so much media attention around Logan

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<v Speaker 2>Paul and ksized fight. I mean, that made millions and

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<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars just in views. I do think it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting though, that Tommy has been sort of portrayed as

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<v Speaker 2>this handbag when essentially he probably is making more money

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<v Speaker 2>than Molly.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I did hear shameless talking a few months ago about

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<v Speaker 2>how maybe Tommy should give up his boxing in order

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<v Speaker 2>to assist Molly in what she's doing, and I found

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<v Speaker 2>that quite an odd stance because they're both twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>years old, they're both entering these really exciting chapters in

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<v Speaker 2>their lives. Obviously, someone needs to be at home with

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<v Speaker 2>the child, but I just think that with the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of money they're making, surely that they can get nanny's

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<v Speaker 2>or assistant so they can both have their careers flourished.

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<v Speaker 2>Mollly's main job, I would say, is influencing though, and

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<v Speaker 2>she can definitely do that from home.

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<v Speaker 1>While she has this sort of cameo.

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<v Speaker 2>As a creative director at PLT, I do think the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of her earnings are coming from her influencing career,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that having a baby is only going

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<v Speaker 2>to maximize this earning potential in the mummy blogging space,

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<v Speaker 2>Hi guys, welcome back to my channel. Today. We are

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<v Speaker 2>doing this makeup look, so I'm going to do a

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<v Speaker 2>tutoro on the look that I'm currently wearing. Marred at

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<v Speaker 2>First Sight Royalty, Martha Califatitas and Michael Brunelli have sparked

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<v Speaker 2>excitement revealing on Sunday they were on their way to

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital to meet their baby Sophie. How did they

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<v Speaker 2>break the news, Well, they broke the news on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, and Martha shared a series of photos in

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<v Speaker 2>her feet with the caption bags are packed, We're off

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<v Speaker 2>see you all soon plus one.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>In the photos, Martha is sitting on the couch holding

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<v Speaker 2>a little onesie. We also see photos of their designer

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<v Speaker 2>bags in the boot of the car, and then a

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<v Speaker 2>video of the couple reversing out of the driveway whilst

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<v Speaker 2>Martha's mum is out the front holding a bucket of water.

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<v Speaker 2>We then hear Martha say we're off to the hospital

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<v Speaker 2>to meet the baby, and Martha's mum then throws water

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<v Speaker 2>on the car. So Martha confirmed in the comments that

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<v Speaker 2>the water throwing is a sign of good luck in

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<v Speaker 2>Greek culture. So that was a really nice touch to

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<v Speaker 2>include that. And I also love the fact that her

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<v Speaker 2>mum just flipped her the bird as she was leaving

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all a bit of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Joke also another nice touch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, earlier this year, Martha revealed she was at breaking

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<v Speaker 2>point after her due date was pushed back to March six,

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<v Speaker 2>and Martha, who has HG, which is a severe.

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<v Speaker 1>Form of morning sickness, so.

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<v Speaker 2>She had work commitments looming over ahead, and she couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>help feel she neglected everything she's worked so hard to build.

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<v Speaker 2>She continued, I feel like I'm at breaking point. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to scream. So it would appear that this baby

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<v Speaker 2>has come earlier than she thought. Now there is a

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.399
<v Speaker 2>bit of speculation floating around the place that these posts

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<v Speaker 2>that we're seeing on Instagram aren't happening in real time,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe it's a bid to put the media off

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<v Speaker 2>the scent. There's a lot of hype around this baby.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but who do they think they are? Like

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<v Speaker 2>Harry and Megan, that's the only other real big couple

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<v Speaker 2>I can think of that actually had to pretend to

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<v Speaker 2>the media that they were going into labor. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>that much interest in this pregnancy?

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<v Speaker 1>So you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Normally you would, you know, if you want to reveal

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<v Speaker 2>that you're going into labor, reveal it and then take

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days offline and then announce it. Because

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<v Speaker 2>I think people give a couple's particularly influence. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>grace period of a couple of days to be on

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<v Speaker 2>your baby bubble before finding out more about the baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree, Amy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the Daily Mail in particular are thirsty

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<v Speaker 2>for this content. They would be scoping out where she lives,

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<v Speaker 2>they would be trying to get any information about the

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<v Speaker 2>baby named. But they can't get into the hospital. They

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<v Speaker 2>can't break it so they can't get into the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm saying that I feel like they are putting

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<v Speaker 2>this out there to put people off the scent. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the baby's already been born, the baby's at home,

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<v Speaker 2>but off.

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<v Speaker 1>The sense of what we all know what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be born.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but off the scent of trying to follow them

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<v Speaker 2>around while they're in hospital. I kind of get what

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying so because sometimes when influencers have given birth,

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<v Speaker 2>for example Sarah's day, when they're sort of live tweeting

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<v Speaker 2>or live storing what's going on, you think, fuck, what

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<v Speaker 2>if a fan or a follower went down to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>And I suppose because Martha's had so many health issues,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they only wanted to announce that she was giving

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<v Speaker 2>birth after they knew it was The baby was delivered safely. See,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a bit of a u turn, though, because

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking a couple of months ago about how

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<v Speaker 2>Indie Clinton was live tiktoking from the event and how

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<v Speaker 2>influencers were capitalizing on this interest in real time of

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<v Speaker 2>their pregnancy and their birth. I do think it was

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<v Speaker 2>quite funny listening to Michael talk about how important he

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<v Speaker 2>thinks that their first post about the baby is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like he's really bought into the hype of it all.

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<v Speaker 2>To be fair, he did preface that it's exciting for

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<v Speaker 2>him and his family.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be unfair.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he backtracked and said that, but he was

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<v Speaker 2>saying how everyone's going to be completely mind blown when

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<v Speaker 2>he and Martha post the announcement of their baby. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not stupid. He knows this is probably going to

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<v Speaker 2>be his and Martha's biggest post on social media. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it just you feel a bit uncomfortable hearing it

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<v Speaker 2>because it sounds like the child's just this commodity. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a general excitement around it because they

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<v Speaker 2>are both now content creators, so they're probably looking at

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<v Speaker 2>it in that kind of mindset. Well, on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>he was asked by his co host Josh Moss what

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<v Speaker 2>their stance was on sharing their baby online, and it

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<v Speaker 2>basically seems it's going to be a bit of trial

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<v Speaker 2>and error. They're going to show a little bit, see

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<v Speaker 2>what the commentary is like, because they do want to

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<v Speaker 2>protect their child from a lot of the trolling that

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<v Speaker 2>they experience. I think it's funny because as an Adelaide

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<v Speaker 2>influencer who I follow, and she was very set on

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<v Speaker 2>not showing her baby's face, and then literally it was

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<v Speaker 2>like a month and then they were showing it because

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<v Speaker 2>it just gets too difficult, particularly when you're sharing your

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<v Speaker 2>life so much. Now. On Michael's podcast page, he revealed

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<v Speaker 2>his top boys' names and they included Arson, Spiros, Sawyer,

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<v Speaker 2>and Alfred. And I do really hope that Martha has

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<v Speaker 2>vetoed all of the names in this list. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 2>sure Martha will have vetoed these names. He said that

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<v Speaker 2>he had suggested someone and she was just like nah nah,

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<v Speaker 2>and like some of the baby clothes. He was saying

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<v Speaker 2>that he was like, oh, how about this cute little

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<v Speaker 2>Nike kit and she's like nah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>A strong rumor going around is that the baby's name

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<v Speaker 2>is Luciano. I can see that I mean, everyone thought

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they would choose an m name because Martha and Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>But Elle, that's pretty close to em in the alphabet.

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<v Speaker 2>Would that be Luca for sure? Do you think maybe maybe?

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<v Speaker 2>I am very interested to see. We do have to

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<v Speaker 2>note that we are recording this on Monday afternoon, so

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<v Speaker 2>if any posts have come out announcing the name or

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<v Speaker 2>announcing the arrival, obviously we didn't know about it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's all we've got time for today. Thank

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