1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: We know that there are now four new positive COVID 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: nineteen cases recorded in the Northern Territory in the past 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Joining me on the line is the 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Health Minister Attasha Files. 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners. 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Now, Minister I understand that these new cases arrived on 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: the repatriation flight from Chennai on the fifteenth of April 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: and they've tested positive for COVID nineteen. 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: Yes, Katie, so we have seen, you know, over the 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: Territory's role in repatriating these vulnerable Australian homes a number 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: of cases. There's currently eleven active cases in the Northern Territory. 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: Four were recorded yesterday and Katie, I haven't had today 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: figures come through, but will be sure to get those 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: through to you as soon as we get them. But 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: these are people that have arrived on these repatriation flights. 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: They're tested immediately upon arrival and then there's a process 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: of continual testing during their stay. So that's why the 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: Territorians we do see these cases, you know, they sort 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: of wonder where we had the flight the other day, 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: why they're suddenly cases today. They're tested and then that 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: screening process takes place and then they're tested again during 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: their stay. 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: All right, So eleven cases in the Northern Territory at 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: the moment, but they are all at the Howard Springs 25 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: Quarantine Facility. Minister, it almost sounds like you're expecting more today, 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: So Katie. 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,279 Speaker 2: I think you only have to look at what's happening, 28 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: particularly in India, but around the world we're seeing this 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: new wave of the virus and so I know many 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: of us had hoped that we were sort of past 31 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: the worst of it, but those cases, particularly in India, 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: and so we are seeing a percentage of people off 33 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: those flights infected, and so we build our resources around 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: that infectivity rate well. 35 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: And I think we all know how important the crew 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: out there, the OSMACK crew have been out there in 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: terms of managing those international repatriations and indeed the number 38 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: of cases that have been through that facility. 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: When is the facility. 40 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: Expected to change over in terms of the management from 41 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: the National Critical Care and Trauma Response Team Northern Territory 42 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Health to. 43 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: Katie, I want to make it really clear that change 44 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: will only occur when OZMAT has the confidence that we 45 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: have all the clinical procedures in place to keep territory 46 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: and safe for me as the Minister for National Resilience, 47 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: that's been my absolute key point all the way through. 48 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: We are working towards dates, and in fact there's already 49 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: been work undertaken where staff from the OZMAT side are 50 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: being mirrod by staff from nt Health. Some of the 51 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: odd OSMAT staff, the people that are currently working under 52 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: the banner of OZMTT are going to go across and 53 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: work under the territory program. So it's really important that 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: territorians understand that it's not simply oh, here's the list 55 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: of people and we're out of here. It's absolutely a 56 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: process where we're making sure all those clinical procedures that 57 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: have been placed continue and that staff are fully trained, 58 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: and some of the staff will come across as well 59 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: as new staff joining the program. 60 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: But Minister, when are those additional flights going to start arriving? 61 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: So we're seeing an increase in the flights over the 62 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: next few weeks. One of our restrictions around the increase 63 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: in flights. Just for your listeners, there's currently eight hundred 64 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: and thirty three people at Howard Springs and seven hundred 65 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: and twenty two of those are at the Center for 66 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: National resilience with those flights. We were always had a 67 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: constraint of infrastructure if we were to see a late 68 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 2: cyclone that has been seen in the territory of cyclone 69 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: during April, and so we had to make sure that 70 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: we could safely care for people if we were faced 71 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: with that situation, but was always intended to step it 72 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: up during May. 73 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so during May, those flights are going to step up. 74 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: We are going to see more of those international arrivals. 75 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: But by the sounds of things, there's no real rush 76 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: to change over from the OZMA team managing those international 77 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: arrivals to nt Health. 78 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: So OZMA Katie has deployed recently to Papua New Guinea. 79 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: They've been supporting it and looking at what's happened in 80 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: tim or less and so there is people in OSMAT 81 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: that would like to get back to their core roles, 82 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: but no, there is no rush at all make sure 83 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: that the processes are in place, that those high clinical 84 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: standards that have really led the world that they have 85 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: developed are in place before they leave the facility, so 86 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: to speak. But some of their staff will in fact 87 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: stay at the facility and work under the anti government 88 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: anti health spanner. 89 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So there were plans to obviously recruit four hundred 90 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: staff that we're going to need to be attracted to 91 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: fill those roles once the change over happened. 92 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: Is that still. 93 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: Required, yes, Katie, So we do need to fill around 94 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: four hundred roles and those roles are from logistics, cleaners, 95 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: support people through to doctors and nurses that provide that care. 96 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: The model out there, and I visited the facility with 97 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: the Territory Controller along with Lena Taris, Professor Lamaitaris and 98 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: looked at how the changes and the changes are practical elements. 99 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: So at the moment you've got the two sides and 100 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: you've got a separation of the facilities, they're coming together 101 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 2: will provide there'll be the areas for each fly and 102 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: so they'll be isolated, they'll have that red zone, and 103 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: so it'll be a far more logical use of the 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: facilities out there as we step forward under the one banner. 105 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: And so where are you adding terms of this recruitment. 106 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: How many staff have now been recruited, Katy. 107 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: I don't have the latest figure, but when I was 108 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: at the facility a couple of weeks ago, around seventy 109 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: staff have already been recruited. Now some stuff are going 110 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: to come across from OZMA to MTG, but that recruitment 111 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: is going well for the facility, and like I said, 112 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: we want to be changing from the Osmack model to 113 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: MTG until we have absolute confidence that we have those 114 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: clinical processes and the plans in place as well as 115 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: the staff to make sure that that can be executed. 116 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: How on earth are you going to reach four hundred. 117 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: So, Katie, as I said, there are a variety of roles, 118 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: and I expect that those roles are now being advertised 119 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: and so it was a situation that we had to 120 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: do preliminary work to identify the roles within the structure 121 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: do the job descriptions. But that work's all been undertaken. 122 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: There being advertised, so I expect it to list quite 123 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: quickly as we know, as these next few weeks progress. 124 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: Okay, I do want to talk to you about the situation. 125 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: With the National Cabinet meeting yesterday, it was decided that 126 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: the vaccine rollout would be reset on the back of 127 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: the updated Medical Advice recommending that Australians under the age 128 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: of fifty received the fires A vaccine over the astrosenica 129 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: amid concerns about red blood clots. How is this going 130 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: to impact the rollout of the vaccine in the Northern Territory. 131 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: So, Katie, it has forced us to recalibrate our vaccine plans. 132 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: We had based plans and our challenge has always been 133 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: a small population in remote communities across a large geographical area. 134 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: And so now that we need to use the fires 135 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: of vaccine for under fifties and the astrosenka for over 136 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: fifties from that comm WOS direction, it does for us 137 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: create we need to recall rate all those plans and 138 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: put new plans in place, and so we're working through 139 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: that so that we can roll the vaccine out territory wide. 140 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: So how long do you think it's going to take 141 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: now to vaccinate everybody in the Northern. 142 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: Territory, Katie, I don't have a time frame. I'm hopeful 143 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: that everyone in the territory will be vaccinated by the 144 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: end of the year. We've already vaccinated around eighteen thousand 145 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: Territorians and there has been a significant number who received 146 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: their second dose. But we need to be in terms 147 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: of our vaccination program. We are going back and looking 148 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: at the plans the Commonwealth. I've had conversations with Schedual 149 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: Health Minister Greg Hunt and he certainly understands in the 150 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: territory the difficulty that we have, but also the opportunity 151 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: and has indicated that there'll be flexibility from the Commonwealth 152 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: for us to roll out our plans. 153 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: But there must be some kind of timeline I'm assuming 154 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: as to you know when you reach certain milestones. 155 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: So Katie, that's what we're working through and will share 156 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: with the community in the coming weeks. We need to 157 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: know what back, what vaccines, and what types and numbers 158 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: we're getting into the territory for us to it's a 159 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: big change from Astrazenica, which was nine weeks nine to 160 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: twelve weeks apart. The fire needs to be delivered only 161 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: three weeks apart, and so we had plans to visit 162 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: areas and then go back and visit them later. It 163 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: might be better off for us to stay in a 164 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: particular region and vaccinate that region. So that's what's been 165 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: worked through presently, but territoriums should be reassured that we 166 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: don't have that community transmission. Over eighteen thousand or around 167 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: eighteen thousand, territories have been vaccinated. All of our pretty 168 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: much all of our frontline workers, those highest risk people 169 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: have been excuse me, vaccinated and will continue to be now. 170 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: I know that it's been reported nationally that doctors are 171 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: now reporting that patients are missing their appointments for the 172 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: astrosenica vaccine over safety concerns, with thousands of doses sitting 173 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: idle in fridges across the country. Have we had that 174 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: situation here in the territory, Katy. 175 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: There's certainly apprehension around the astrosenica vaccine, and so it's 176 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: really important for people to understand this blood clotting is 177 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: extremely rare, and the advice is when you are over fifty, 178 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: you've got more of a risk of COVID than the 179 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: blood clotting it's been in younger people. If you've had 180 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: your first dose of astrosenica and that was, you know, 181 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: a few weeks ago on your duty, your second dose, 182 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: you should get that second dose. It's so important to 183 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: make sure you're fully vaccinated. The reactions to date have 184 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: been as I understand, in that first dose. So you know, 185 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: if you under fifty and you're received a first dose 186 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: of astrozeneka, you need to see that that second dose, 187 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 2: it must be astrasenica two that you can be reassured 188 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: that reactions seem to be in that first dose. So 189 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: people just to. 190 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: Go back to the question though, do we have a 191 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: situation where there is vaccine sitting idle in the Northern 192 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: Territory or are we not in that situation here in 193 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: the territory. 194 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: So, Katie, the advice that the Health Department has provided me, 195 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: and remembering we've got the Health Department and then the 196 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: commonwealths are rolling out the age care and then the GPS. 197 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: But around seventy five percent of our vaccines has been 198 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: used and so we're not seeing the vaccine s on 199 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: the shelf here. But Katie, this is all developed fairly quickly. 200 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: It was only ten days ago that the advice around 201 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: astrazeneka changed. But the advice I've had is that we're 202 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: still utilizing the vaccine we've got. 203 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I just want to go across to some pretty 204 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: terrible vision which has been shared very widely on social media. Overnight, 205 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: a Darwin shop owner's been taken to hospital after she 206 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: was injured during a supermarket robbery. The Northern Territory Police 207 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: Watch commander spoke to Maddie Hepworth, our news director, a 208 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: little bit earlier this morning and said, there's a staff 209 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: at the Winnelli supermarket noticed two men had entered the 210 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: store and were acting suspiciously. Now they then were grabbing 211 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: different things. They grabbed alcohol and when the time came 212 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: to pay or to head towards the desk, they bowled this. 213 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: Shop owner over. 214 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: She's ended up injured and had to be taken to 215 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: Royal Darwin Hospital. 216 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: Have you seen that vision and what was your reaction, Katie? 217 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that vision, but the way you've just 218 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: described it to me sounds terrible and it's unacceptable. I 219 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: do need to be careful with my comments that the 220 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: police are clearly investigating and hopefully charges can be laid, 221 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: but that is unacceptable in our behavior, and you know, 222 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 2: people should have the right to be safe at works 223 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: just doing their job and we've put in place a 224 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: range of measures and we will continue to work on 225 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: this issue and be agile and respond to the community. 226 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Now it is being reported that at the desk they 227 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: were asked for ID which they didn't have, and it 228 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: was at that time that the shop owner placed herself 229 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: some distance behind the two mails and she had a 230 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: trolley in front of her. They turned with that stolen 231 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: property and charged at the lady. I mean, does this 232 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: demonstrate that we've got a real situation in the territory 233 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: at the moment where if people want alcohol, they are 234 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: going to extraordinary lengths to get. 235 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: It, Katie, I will wait for them the advice from police, 236 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: but we know that alcohol is the basis of so 237 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: much crime and anti social behavior, and we've put in 238 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: place measures to protect the community. But that is clearly 239 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: unacceptable what you have just explained. People are breaking the 240 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: law and they're harming an individual and there's in no 241 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: way would that be appropriate. 242 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: Well, we will be speaking hopefully to the Winelli shop 243 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: owner a little bit later this morning. Minister for Health, 244 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: Natasha Files, we appreciate your time today, Thanks very much 245 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: for speaking with us. 246 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: Thank you