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Speaker 1: Just now, Okay, it's really really hard for me to

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Speaker 2: Have a silver water. Okay, have a sip. Sorry, everyone

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Speaker 2: of you. That's obviously a pretty emotional moment, big boy.

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Speaker 3: No, I gotta say, it's very brave to come on

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Speaker 1: I didn't like realizing this about myself, But the reality

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Speaker 3: I was expecting a little bit more serious than that. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: you don't like your girlfriend driving your car.

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Speaker 1: So look, we're on this road trip down to the beach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And.

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Speaker 1: I said no, you said no, I said no, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's well. And then look what I feel

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Speaker 1: But that's exactly how I felt.

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Speaker 2: This is amazing.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, naturally, like my girlfriend was like,

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Speaker 2: But that's that's that's emasculating.

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Speaker 1: It felt yeah, right, and I and I paused it.

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Speaker 2: So did you let her drive or did you not?

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Speaker 1: Obviously because she well she's looking at me going like

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Speaker 3: Me, right because you always have to be in control. Yes,

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Speaker 2: You know, you're obviously very reluctant to taken off. I'm

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Speaker 2: just I'm just trying to do that what you're telling me?

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Speaker 2: He no, no, here's what I no.

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Speaker 1: No, No, okay, Look, if we want other people to

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Speaker 1: But here's my question is, maybe are men justified in

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Speaker 2: just as two men in here, we disagree completely with that.

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Speaker 1: With that, I just told you that I don't necessarily

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Speaker 3: If you don't recognize out of the two of us,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a lot about you and in your

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Speaker 3: Like, sorry, sorry, Not only am I not in a relationship,

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Speaker 2: You've always been the snack and the NAV guy. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I nav got taken off me. I'm hey, look, let's

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's be honest and vulnerable men out there, if

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Speaker 1: god given right to drive the car taking up next

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Speaker 1: Hut are men justified in assuming that they're always the

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Speaker 3: Sorry to summarize you before the song, you're not comfortable

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Speaker 3: with this. You're actually you were quite reluctant saying this.

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Speaker 2: But you did feel like it was difficult to hand

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Speaker 2: It was like removing an arm.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I know, and like, you know, very very logically

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure it was, you know, like, I just.

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Speaker 1: Assume every time that I should be driving. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: Girlfriend was driving the car.

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Speaker 1: And I know that's awful, but that's the reality. And

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Speaker 1: I just reckon, I'm thirty one or sixty five. You've

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Speaker 3: Weird flipper is. I love being a passenger. But we

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Speaker 3: won't dissect that just yet. Let's go to Joey here. Joey,

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Speaker 3: what are your thoughts and all this? Does the man

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, I'll tell you one thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actuallyeing my girlfriend, my girlfriend's car right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm driving.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she asked if.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's it's you know, it takes your breakaway.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you just.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to hand them keys. I don't, And it's not.

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Speaker 3: Sixty k's in a seventy Yeah, yeah, what are you

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm not I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to turn this into a comment on

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Speaker 1: women's driving because I think that's garbage. I think that

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Speaker 1: in that. But maybe your girlfriend's not a great driver,

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Speaker 1: and that's a good excuse for it. But either way,

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Speaker 1: would you still find it hard to handle the keys? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful thing. Your thoughts very clear. Let's go to

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Speaker 2: Zoe now, Zoe.

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Speaker 1: Hiy, Zoe, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we're good, we're good.

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Speaker 1: Look polarizing topic, and I'm are men justified in assuming

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Speaker 1: I've been with my partner for a year and every

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Speaker 3: But it's kind of like that romantic gesture that he's driving.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit old fashioned. Yeah, like I know, I

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Speaker 1: wear pears, but if he wants to drive like huge drives,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll pay the fuel off the food.

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Speaker 2: Yeah okay, So Zoe, I have got a question for you.

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Speaker 1: Woods was saying before that, like, you know, he's in

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Speaker 1: likes being in the passenger seat. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: it says something about your standing in the relationship. No, definitely, Notice,

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Speaker 1: like there's other things that like I'll do and he

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Speaker 1: you're flipping it. You're saying you're the dominant one. You

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Speaker 1: just give a bit of a cookie and you're like,

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Speaker 1: all right, you can go on have your toy for.

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Speaker 2: The next little while.

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Speaker 1: But I'm really in charge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, nice, nice work. That's not the case with you.

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Speaker 2: It's never been the case with you. I think it

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Speaker 2: definitely could be.

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Speaker 1: We've got Stacey here, We've got Stacey here on thirteen

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Speaker 2: Stacy, should blokes always be the driver?

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Speaker 1: No, my husband is not allowed to drive my car

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't have.

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Speaker 3: His own, so I am.

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Speaker 1: The only driver of our car because women are better drivers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So it turned into agenda to make that's tried to

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Speaker 1: avoid this.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to make it this.

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Speaker 3: Can I ask you, Stacy, how does how you feel

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Speaker 3: about the fact there's a ban on him driving.

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Speaker 1: He just has to put up with it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how do you feel about it?

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Speaker 1: Arion? Very happy.

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