WEBVTT - HERstory Part 1: Venus and Serena Williams

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this

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<v Speaker 1>episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay

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<v Speaker 1>our respects to elders past, present and emerging and extend

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<v Speaker 1>that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.

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<v Speaker 1>Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Rise and Conquer Podcast. This is the podcast where we

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<v Speaker 1>have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self mix

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<v Speaker 1>soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>of my life running two businesses and being among Think

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<v Speaker 1>of us as the perfect combo of brunch with your

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<v Speaker 1>besties mixed with self development. No matter where you are

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<v Speaker 1>in your journey, we're here to help you be curious,

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<v Speaker 1>pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're ready to get into the.

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<v Speaker 1>Driver's seat of your own life and stop letting life

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<v Speaker 1>pass you by, then.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in the right place.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, and welcome back to the Potty, Happy Friday

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<v Speaker 1>and Happy Women's History Month a tea, Happy Women's History Month.

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<v Speaker 1>We are so excited for this special episode for you today.

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<v Speaker 1>It is part one of our four part Her Story

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<v Speaker 1>series and we'll be talking about the Queen's Serena and

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<v Speaker 1>Venus Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited. I love them and in such a

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<v Speaker 2>good episode. It's just so Saol produces, it organizes the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing. This was an amazing episode. No, I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a Tia.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give you a shout out and say

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<v Speaker 1>such incredible work. Thank you researching and putting this series together.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been it's so it has been epic to

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<v Speaker 1>see you really like hone in on your Zoner genius

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<v Speaker 1>and bring this to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. I hope everyone likes it so we can

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<v Speaker 3>do more.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, please get those listeners, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So in each episode, we are sharing the stories of

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<v Speaker 1>iconic women who have made history or who we feel

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<v Speaker 1>are currently making history. So these women are trailblazers in

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<v Speaker 1>their chosen careers and they're doing things differently, which you

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<v Speaker 1>guys know we absolutely love. We then unpack certain aspects

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<v Speaker 1>and values that they model in everything they do, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we have discussion of how we can use this

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<v Speaker 1>as an expander in our own lives.

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<v Speaker 2>So what we.

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<v Speaker 1>Really want you to start thinking about throughout this series

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<v Speaker 1>is what legacy or impact are you leaving? Could you

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<v Speaker 1>do things differently? Could you think outside the box. How

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<v Speaker 1>can you push yourself out of your comfort zone and grow?

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<v Speaker 3>But before we get into it, what's your weekly recommendation, Georgie, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Just piguring back.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Well, actually kind of that's a great segue of

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<v Speaker 1>what I just said of my recommendation to you guys

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<v Speaker 1>this week is thinking how much of your life is

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<v Speaker 1>just a comfort zone and where you are actually seeking

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<v Speaker 1>discomfort to stretch and grow yourself towards.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and this is actually one of my March intentions.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a really about this on Instagram, because like,

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<v Speaker 1>if we really look at our life, most of the

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<v Speaker 1>things we do is routine and comfort.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's normal. We are human.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just had in our home home the other

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<v Speaker 1>day where I was like, oh, I think I have

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<v Speaker 1>been sinking, you know, comfort lately, and I really want

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<v Speaker 1>to like step outside my comfort zone because I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's where the magic happens. So I'm doing that within

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the businesses, but also personally, which I've never

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<v Speaker 1>really done or been like interested in. So for example,

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend that just went, me and Tim went to

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<v Speaker 1>house in house in Cabareta and I randomly I was

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<v Speaker 1>very spontaneous to here, and I'm never spontaneous.

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<v Speaker 2>I booked in horse riding. Oh I love that, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Never been horse riding something out of my comfort zone

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<v Speaker 1>and just got like kind of, you know, a bit roke.

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<v Speaker 3>So fun though, and it was so.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun and I felt really like present and in the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not gonna lie, Like before we went, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like a little bit nervous and I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how this is gonna go. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we went and it was awesome. But I'm yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>just been really thinking about this like theme in my

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<v Speaker 1>life of like where I actually just choose the most

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And how I can maybe share that. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what about you? What's your weekly rack?

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<v Speaker 3>So this sound was damn to us on Instagram and

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<v Speaker 3>I loved it and I'm obsessed with it. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>recommending So Weird a Real Sound because it's literally just

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<v Speaker 3>a real It's a song that that is coming out

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<v Speaker 3>next Friday. But I just feel like people need to

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<v Speaker 3>listen to it. Now, what do you mean it's coming

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<v Speaker 3>out next Friday. It's gonna be released next Friday. The

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<v Speaker 3>full song.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what's the artist? Morgan Saint Jean.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, play it. Yeah, you're gonna love it.

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<v Speaker 2>You want lucky girl syndrome.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to listen to this. I tried you. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a fine.

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<v Speaker 2>How good is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just it's got forty four point four KX right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, send it to me over. I did yesterday. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it was you and I ignored it. I

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<v Speaker 2>did them. I'm not in my DMS. Got a texted

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<v Speaker 2>yeah I know. Oh my god. I love that me too.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's my recommendation. She's literally at Morgan Saint Gene

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<v Speaker 3>on Instagram. So go listen to it till next Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much to here.

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<v Speaker 1>Also men Tea both one, Harry Styles, Yes, so we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not really a recommendation. That's just like a small flex.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys should listen to its music. It's great. Jamie

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't like him, but we do.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, I do have like a bit more tangible recommend

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<v Speaker 3>Nation two Drive to Survive season five on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're still going good?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So good is a little fun and still in it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>of course the winner. Well, I'm just gonna put in

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<v Speaker 2>a Netflix out of Bank. Season three is out. Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 2>did I say this already?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>You told me postally. I was like, I feel like, guys, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Really hard to know what I've told you and then

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<v Speaker 1>what I've told a Tia. It just merges into one.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally had to be like, did I already recommend

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<v Speaker 1>the no Froe thing? Because I can't remember I told

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<v Speaker 1>you all the podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like same people I am our only.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it feels like. Sometimes we're just like talking

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<v Speaker 1>to no one. Anyway, guys, that's enough of that. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into this very special episode. You guys are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>love it.

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<v Speaker 3>So today we're going to be talking about Venus and

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<v Speaker 3>Serena Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed with them, me too. I love them so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited for this series, me too. Let'stal it

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<v Speaker 2>it to YOUA.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I would start by telling you a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit about them, and then we can also chat at

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<v Speaker 3>the end about what we love about their stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's their story is just so incredible. It's next level,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, get straight into it.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Venus and Serena are the youngest of five siblings

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<v Speaker 3>before they were born. It is said that their dad

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<v Speaker 3>actually decided that they were going to be famous tennis players.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a rumor that he wrote like a seventy

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<v Speaker 3>eight page plan of how he was going to get

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<v Speaker 3>them to be professional tennis players, which I love.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, does anyone have like a copy of them?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it as I say, can we use it?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to know. I knew you probably don't

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<v Speaker 1>have this answer, but like, why tennis?

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<v Speaker 3>So he actually saw, just before they were born, or

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<v Speaker 3>before Venus was born, a tennis player, I don't remember

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<v Speaker 3>her name exactly get a forty thousand dollar check, and

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<v Speaker 3>because they weren't well off, when she won that money,

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, we're going to have two more kids

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<v Speaker 3>and they're going to be tennis players.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. It's like me watching legally Blonde.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah and being like, what I could be smart and fabulous?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean so good?

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<v Speaker 3>So he actually started coaching four year old Venus on

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<v Speaker 3>a court in Compton, Los Angeles, but tried to convince

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<v Speaker 3>her to quit tennis when she was about eight years

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<v Speaker 3>old because of how he saw junior tennis parents were

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<v Speaker 3>treating their kids. He wasn't really happy because it was

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<v Speaker 3>a bit toxic, a lot of pressure on the kids,

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<v Speaker 3>and Venus refused to leave tennis and instead quit track,

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<v Speaker 3>which was another sport she was pursuing at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>even though she was really good at it, because she

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to focus on tennis. Yeah. Love. So both girls

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<v Speaker 3>grew up in the suburbs of in California, which, for

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<v Speaker 3>those of you who don't know, it's actually considered to

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<v Speaker 3>be an area of high poverty, so a very low

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<v Speaker 3>socio economic status in the States. Their early playing careers

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<v Speaker 3>evolved while competing on public courts in the housing projects.

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<v Speaker 3>Although this was an area that was full of violence, gangs,

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<v Speaker 3>and high rates of homicides, they prevailed to become two

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<v Speaker 3>of the elite tennis players in the world, which we know.

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<v Speaker 3>So in nineteen ninety one, Richard uprooted his family to

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<v Speaker 3>enroll both Venus and Serena in Rick Mackey's Delray Beach

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<v Speaker 3>Tennis Academy in Florida, where they trained six hours a day,

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<v Speaker 3>six days a week for four years. Rick was very

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<v Speaker 3>well respected and established tennis professional, so it was a

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<v Speaker 3>massive deal that they had that opportunity. So it was

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<v Speaker 3>also in nineteen ninety one that Richard made the decision

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<v Speaker 3>to withdraw the girls from all junior tennis tournaments, which

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<v Speaker 3>was very, very criticized because that's not really what was

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<v Speaker 3>done or the conventional path to being a tennis professional.

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<v Speaker 2>And what was his reasoning.

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<v Speaker 3>So his reasoning was because it was a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>there was a lot of racial hostility, is what he said,

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<v Speaker 3>towards them from the other players, and he didn't like

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<v Speaker 3>the pressure it was putting on the girls. When their

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<v Speaker 3>coach was asked why he let that happen in an

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<v Speaker 3>interview with The New York Times, he said putting Venus

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<v Speaker 3>and Serena in a traditional development system would be like

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<v Speaker 3>putting her in prison, which I thought was a very

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<v Speaker 3>interesting quote. So in nineteen ninety four, so three years later,

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<v Speaker 3>at the age of fourteen, Venus made her debut as

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<v Speaker 3>a professional tennis player, which was very very young to

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<v Speaker 3>be doing that, and the night before her first game,

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<v Speaker 3>she was approached by Nike and offered a three million

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<v Speaker 3>dollar endorsement deal. Now we're going to play a snippet

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<v Speaker 3>of this scene happening from the movie King Richard. Keep

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<v Speaker 3>in mind this movie is not an exact accurate account

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<v Speaker 3>of events, but it was executive produced by Venus and Serena,

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<v Speaker 3>so we do know that things like this did happen.

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<v Speaker 5>That is three million dollars signature shoe signature lying. We

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<v Speaker 5>want to build our women's brand around Venus Maker Marque Player.

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<v Speaker 5>How's that sound?

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<v Speaker 6>Well?

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<v Speaker 7>I think uh we actually you need to be pitching.

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<v Speaker 5>Huh well, Venus, what do you think I mean that?

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<v Speaker 5>That is a generous deal. It's a million more than

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<v Speaker 5>Kapriotti got before she went pro, plus a real commitment

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<v Speaker 5>to invest in the charity and outreach programs you and

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<v Speaker 5>your family support. We think you're going to have a

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<v Speaker 5>tremendous career and we want to help you build it

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<v Speaker 5>starting today.

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<v Speaker 6>It's yeah, maybe maybe maybe just have a minute, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>just let the family absolutely no problems.

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<v Speaker 5>Just just just to be clear, this deal is for

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<v Speaker 5>tonight only. It's it's off the tablets. You just step

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<v Speaker 5>on that court tomorrow than you talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll just we'll just take a seat.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, there's a heck of a seafood buffet. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>at level right, you don't want to hit one or

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<v Speaker 6>two a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 5>Just fix your face to the man, get out the door.

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<v Speaker 2>What does he mean by.

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<v Speaker 5>Let the man get out the door?

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<v Speaker 6>Face?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what he means.

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<v Speaker 8>We're going to talk.

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<v Speaker 7>About it when the man just let me get out

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<v Speaker 7>the doll What is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>What did he mean by it's one night only tonight only?

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<v Speaker 7>Only worry about that?

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, He's trying scarce and guess what, I'm scared.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm freaking. I'm freaking terrified, guys.

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<v Speaker 6>What what is going on? Three million dollars? What's the

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<v Speaker 6>problem here?

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<v Speaker 5>Rick?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see.

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<v Speaker 7>They haven't even seen a girl play yet. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 7>know that.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's the point.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have to.

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<v Speaker 7>Richard.

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<v Speaker 2>You did it?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, you did it?

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<v Speaker 7>Richard.

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<v Speaker 5>Look I thought you were nuts.

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<v Speaker 6>They're talking and the interviews and the nonsense, but look.

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<v Speaker 7>You were right. She's a star.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at what we won?

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<v Speaker 5>This is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is everybody so glum?

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<v Speaker 3>Please?

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<v Speaker 6>Guys or seeing Please?

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<v Speaker 5>Can you help me out here?

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<v Speaker 2>You need to be talking to venus.

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<v Speaker 4>V.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to show them what I can do. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand it's a.

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<v Speaker 6>Good offer, but this is not a good offer. This

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<v Speaker 6>is an unbelievable offer. Guys. This is money that changes

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<v Speaker 6>your lives, that changes your family's lives.

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<v Speaker 7>What do we rick you asking this girl take all

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<v Speaker 7>the hard way she's undere for the last to stop

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<v Speaker 7>to me all the hard way she's undeal for the

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<v Speaker 7>last ten years and accept the face offer to come

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<v Speaker 7>through the door. You know that's not right, Richard.

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<v Speaker 2>The draw is not even out yet.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't know the girl is asking for an opportunity

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<v Speaker 7>to compete.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't even you know who she's playing.

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<v Speaker 7>She don't care nothing about that. Venus Williams, do you

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<v Speaker 7>care who you play? No, daddy, Venus Williams. Are you

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<v Speaker 7>gonna beat whoever on the other side of that net?

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<v Speaker 5>Yesdy Venus Williams.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you want take this deal?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 7>Well deady is We're not taking deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go get some ny. Let's just put this in perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's fourteen, she's fourteen years fourteen, and she gets

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<v Speaker 1>a three million dollar contract from Nike before she's even competed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and so the the condition of that was, like

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<v Speaker 3>that offer expired that night. She had to accept that

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<v Speaker 3>offer before she walked onto the court. Was getting an

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<v Speaker 3>offer like that like unheard of? It was unheard of

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<v Speaker 3>because it was the highest of junior had ever been

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<v Speaker 3>offered at that point in time.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then was it like a certain amount of years

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<v Speaker 1>or something with Nike, Like was it a long contract?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was just a short contract. But the

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<v Speaker 3>plus in getting off before the first game is that

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<v Speaker 3>even if you lose, you have that money.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas otherwise to then get endorsement deals after she'd played

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<v Speaker 3>her first match, she would have had to have done

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<v Speaker 3>a really really good job.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that she would have had then so much

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<v Speaker 1>pressure to perform yeaheah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, So she turned it down.

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<v Speaker 3>She turned it down, and her coach and their lawyer

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<v Speaker 3>were devastated. They were like, you've made a massive mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>You should have taken the contract. We don't know what's

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen tomorrow. Because I think they also thought

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<v Speaker 3>she's fourteen, Like she's playing against women that are twice

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<v Speaker 3>her age.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, yeah, I hadn't thought of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So even if she didn't win, the fact she

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<v Speaker 3>was there was a massive achievement. And in their heads

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<v Speaker 3>they were like, let's just take the three million because

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<v Speaker 3>we put so much money into getting here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course.

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<v Speaker 3>So after that, so the next day she had a

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<v Speaker 3>professional debut against a player that was ranked fifty ninth

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<v Speaker 3>in the world at the time, and she won that match.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she played I apologized for my pronunciation of

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<v Speaker 3>this name, a Ranster Sanchez Vicario, who was ranked second

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<v Speaker 3>in the world at the time, and Venus gave her

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<v Speaker 3>a run for her money. She started the game off winning,

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<v Speaker 3>but then Vicario requested a bathroom break in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the game, and that's Venus psyched herself out when

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<v Speaker 3>I have heard about.

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<v Speaker 2>This, Oh oh, I remember watching this in the movie. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So she was going so well and even now Venus

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<v Speaker 3>is reflected on that as the game she should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Won one hundred Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And so after that bathroom break, she didn't score another

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<v Speaker 3>point and actually ended up losing the game, but still

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<v Speaker 3>amazing because she was ranked second in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And seven months later, Rebok signed a five year contract

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<v Speaker 3>with Venus for a reported twelve million dollars. So she

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<v Speaker 3>was fourteen years old signing a five year endoors name

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<v Speaker 3>with Rainfow for twelve million dollars, which is just insane,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was also unheard of for a newcomer to

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<v Speaker 3>the sport. Couple of years later, Serena had her professional debut,

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<v Speaker 3>also at the age of fourteen, and as the world

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<v Speaker 3>got to see and know how good Venus was, the

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<v Speaker 3>media's version of the sisters really put Serena as a

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<v Speaker 3>lesser player when she started off. They said she's not

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<v Speaker 3>as good as Venus.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So in an interview with Harper's Bizarre in February

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<v Speaker 3>of twenty twenty two, Venus actually said, usually in one family,

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<v Speaker 3>there's one good player and then the other one is

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<v Speaker 3>not that great. And I think people told Serena she

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be great. The fearlessness with which she approached the

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<v Speaker 3>game was something I've always really admired. She doesn't accept. Second,

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<v Speaker 3>she explicitly told me herself that she plays for first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I got full body shivers.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing and it's no secret that these women have

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<v Speaker 3>gone on to break records, but I thought i'd just

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<v Speaker 3>rattle off a future really show the magnitude of their achievements.

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<v Speaker 3>So both sisters have been ranked number one in singles tennis,

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<v Speaker 3>Venus for a total of eleven weeks beginning in February

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and two, Serena for a total of three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixteen weeks beginning in July two thousand and two.

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<v Speaker 3>Venus has won forty nine singles titles over the course

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<v Speaker 3>of her career, and Serena has won seventy three. The

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<v Speaker 3>Williams sisters are the only two women during the Open

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<v Speaker 3>era to contest four consecutive major finals, from the two

0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.439
<v Speaker 3>thousand and two French Open to the two thousand and

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<v Speaker 3>three Australian Open. Serena won all four of these finals.

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<v Speaker 3>The sisters are nonetheless personally very close. They've won twenty

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<v Speaker 3>two titles when playing doubles together, including fourteen majors and

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<v Speaker 3>three Olympic gold medals. I just I can't even comprehend.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so so much, so incredible and what a team.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, and I love that they have never let

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<v Speaker 3>it ruin their relationship. Their relationship is still very strong. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So to end, I thought I would give a little

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<v Speaker 3>fun fact tell us the all Williams final at the

0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:21.680
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and one US Open drew a larger television

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<v Speaker 3>audience than the Notre Dame Nebraska college football game being

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<v Speaker 3>broadcast at the same time. So college football in the

0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:31.320
<v Speaker 3>state is a really big thing. So for two female

0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:34.320
<v Speaker 3>sports players to draw a bigger audience than the all

0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:38.960
<v Speaker 3>male college football teams. Was a massive deal, and in fact,

0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.680
<v Speaker 3>is part of the reason that the women's final at

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<v Speaker 3>the US Open was moved to its primetime spot because

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<v Speaker 3>of the positive effect that the Williams Sisters had on

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<v Speaker 3>television ratings. CBS's four highest rated US Open women's finals

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<v Speaker 3>of the last decade all involved the Williams sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I even like reflecting right now. I am personally

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not a sport person. No, neither am

0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I Tim is a sport person or kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a sport person.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wouldn't really know any other tennis stars except

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<v Speaker 1>the Williams sisters. I know, even and be interested in

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<v Speaker 1>their story absolutely, and be inspired.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I love them so much, and I think just it's

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<v Speaker 3>so clear from their life how hard they've worked to

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<v Speaker 3>get where they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, let's actually let's unpack their story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think like the biggest theme from the Williams sisters is

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<v Speaker 1>their determination and grit. Yes, for sure, because I like,

0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:54.159
<v Speaker 1>we've both seen the movie. Loved the movie. Shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to King Richard. It's amazing. Go and watch it. I

0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:01.000
<v Speaker 1>just I remember watching that and then knowing that, you know,

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 1>they had had a big help in the film, so

0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>knowing it was mostly you know, real events. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing them, you know, play in the rain, and just

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<v Speaker 1>like continue and continue and continue, and just thinking like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you do want to do something, you can you

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<v Speaker 1>just have to be willing to put in that like

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<v Speaker 1>effort and work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and put in which is kind of controversial.

0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:33.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, even saying that, just then I'm like, oh, I

0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like people are gonna come.

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<v Speaker 2>At me, watch your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally agree. Like for me, the ten thousand hours

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<v Speaker 3>theory comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that?

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<v Speaker 1>So, like, I know what it is, explain it to

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<v Speaker 1>the audience.

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<v Speaker 3>So the ten thousand hours theory is basically this concept

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<v Speaker 3>that if you do ten thousand hours of any activity,

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<v Speaker 3>you will be at an expert level.

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<v Speaker 2>And I talied it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the four hours, the six hours a day for

0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.680
<v Speaker 3>six weeks for four years, that actually adds up to

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<v Speaker 3>about seven five hundred hours. And that was just with

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:12.240
<v Speaker 3>their coach, so yeah, not even before, not even before

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:13.960
<v Speaker 3>when they were going with their dad to the court

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:18.400
<v Speaker 3>every day. And I think it's also that concept of it's.

0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Not always going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>So easy, and you're not always going to have the

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<v Speaker 3>motivation to do the thing, but you have to do

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:27.800
<v Speaker 3>it and remember your why, and it's not always going

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<v Speaker 3>to be like glamorous.

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:29.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think people get rose colored glasses when you see

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:36.960
<v Speaker 3>super successful people who've done these amazing things, and it's

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:39.040
<v Speaker 3>so easy to like look at their life and go, oh,

0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:41.640
<v Speaker 3>they were probably rich, like they're in tennis, they're probably rich.

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 3>They're probably super wealthy because at the time when they

0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 3>were going into tennis, it was very much like an elite.

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:51.560
<v Speaker 3>You had to be wealthy, you had to be white sport,

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 3>so they had to have been rich, rich, rich rich

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:56.159
<v Speaker 3>black people to be able to get in there. But

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<v Speaker 3>that's not the case. And it's just almost that reality

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:01.760
<v Speaker 3>check of like who you don't have excuses.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually reminding me. I have this like fun story.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've told on the podcast before,

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<v Speaker 1>but I remember having this realization in maybe grade eleven

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 1>when I did decide I want to do law, and

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really feel you know, the typical quote unquote smart. Yeah,

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, my grades at that stage were

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:31.120
<v Speaker 1>like c's and b's, Like I would you know, a

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 1>normal student. And I remember having this realization and saying,

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what would happen if I applied myself to

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<v Speaker 1>my max effort. And I remember literally sitting down as

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 1>like you know, a fifteen year old and thinking, okay,

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 1>what could I do to get smarter? And I used

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>to do things like as soon as the teacher would

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<v Speaker 1>give us the assign because you usually had a good

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. And I remember, you know, I went

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 1>to a state school, so everyone started like, come on before,

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, she gives me exciting and I remember thinking, okay,

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.239
<v Speaker 1>what do I actually because my whole thing was in

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<v Speaker 1>order for me to get into law, I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>basically get a's across the boat of all my subjects,

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:26.679
<v Speaker 1>and so I would first of all get the assessment.

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.919
<v Speaker 1>I would plot in, you know, the dates of I

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>had this big thing about drafts, so I used to

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>get two to three drafts.

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<v Speaker 2>To my teacher to look over to refine. Wow, because I.

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Thought, like, surely me handing in half a draft, and

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>so a big thing I would PLoP in the dates

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of when I'm giving my teacher the drafts because I

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>knew I had to get two to three in order

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>to get an A, because that's just what I personally

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>had to do. Yeah, And then I would go to

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the library and I'd hire out all the books about

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 1>that subject, or if it wasn't in the school library

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:07.880
<v Speaker 1>because my school library had fucking notebooks, I would go

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>to my local library, yeah, and hire out the books.

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>And I would literally hire every single one, and I

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 1>would love sit in the library for ages, get them all,

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and then I would start my assignment. And yeah, I

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>would be that annoying student who would like, at lunchtime,

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 1>knock on my teachers.

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh, your teachers, Yeah.

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 1>My teachers, like I don't know what was it called,

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>like staff, Yeah, the staff room.

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 2>And being like could you look over this and give

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<v Speaker 2>me some point as blah blah blah blah.

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>And I remember them even being like I could just

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.119
<v Speaker 1>tell they were so annoyed by me. But I do

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you mean like I was so determined. No, I'm getting

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>an A in this and I know things don't come

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>to me as naturally as you know, some other children.

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 2>So this is just what I have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I remember having those thoughts when I was,

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, fifteen and sixteen, and then because I then

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 1>did that and applied myself so much and did get

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 1>an op that I could, you know, get into law.

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Then my brain went, oh, okay, that's just what we

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>have to do. Yeah, And so I love in their

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>story that it was like, no, I'm not saying I'm

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 1>like the Williams sisters the resonate, you know, like it's

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 1>like they literally just trained day in day out, like.

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 2>That huge grit is. It's such.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a thing like if you don't know something

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>or if you're not good at it, didn't you say

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<v Speaker 1>Ed Sheeran?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so Ed Schune did the ten thousand Hours. So

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<v Speaker 3>he was not a great singer.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't believe that, I know, right, And Ed

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Sheeron is an angel.

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love you, Ed, And if you're listening,

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 2>come seeing to us.

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 3>So he wasn't a good singer, and he just practiced

0:27:57.240 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 3>and practiced and practiced and he got good. And Sun

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 3>actually spoke about the ten thousand hours theory in an

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 3>interview a few years ago, and I want to share

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 3>a snippet of that here.

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<v Speaker 8>Have you ever heard of this theory about the ten

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 8>thousand hours theory? So that theory works right. So when

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:19.120
<v Speaker 8>I first started out, I saw Damien Rice in concert

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 8>and I mention it in a song. I was said,

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 8>I won't stop till my names in lights Stadium, Heights

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 8>with Damien Rice, and literally like I watched him and

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 8>was like, I want to do that. One day and

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 8>wrote a million songs, did a million gigs and of

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 8>ended up kind of doing a similar thing. But it

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 8>literally came from writing a song a day, or two

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 8>songs a day, or five songs a day, and just

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 8>getting all these songs out of me, doing a million gigs,

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 8>sometimes three gigs a day. We did six gigs a

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 8>day one year at Glastonbury. But I think you view

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 8>it as a dirty tap. When you switch a dirty

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 8>tap on, it's going to flow shit water out for

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 8>a substantial amount of time, and then clean water's going

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 8>to start flowing and now and then you'll get a

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 8>bit of shit. But as long as it gets out

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 8>of you, it's fine. So with songs, you're gonna write

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 8>shit songs at the beginning, you are. My songs were terrible,

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 8>my rahps, like I've listened to it the other day.

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 8>It's awful, But I got it out of me, And

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 8>the more and more you write, the more and more

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 8>you experience, and then you start flowing clean water and

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 8>songs start getting better and better and better. And when

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 8>you just you're on a good streak, you're writing good

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 8>songs now, and then you're gonna write a shit song

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 8>and that song it's out of you and you can

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 8>move on. And it's the same with gigs, like you

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 8>will always play bad gigs at the beginning. That's what

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 8>you need to do. And then the more gigs you do,

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 8>the better you'll get now, and then you'll have a

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 8>shit gig. But that's all right because you've got it

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 8>out of you and you've experienced it. So I just say,

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 8>the more and more you can do, put in your

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 8>ten thousand hours, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just a testament to natural talent will

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 3>only get you so far. Yes, and sometimes it's better

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 3>if you don't have the natural talent because you start

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 3>working harder earlier, and that just becomes like you said,

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 3>how it is, it's the habit.

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you almost have that activation of oh fuck, I

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>don't have the natural talent, so I've got to put

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 1>in the effort. But that almost can be well, it

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>will be get you there. Faster and be the thing

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that is your you know, determination and the reason why

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you then go achieve the things.

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent.

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I love that and that seemed interesting. Guys, like, have

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a think about where in your life are you telling

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>yourself you're not really good at something? Yeah, but you

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>actually have put not a lot of time and effort

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>into excelling that skill, even though you would want to.

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 3>And I feel like you can only say you're not

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 3>good at something if you've done ten thousand hours of

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 3>it and you're still but you won't be, and then

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 3>I'll believe you and then we'll say okay.

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>But that's even like, you know, people ask in regards

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>to me and Cooper starting naked Harbret, but how did

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you know how to start a business? And it's like

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I remember listening to probably thousands of hours of business podcasts, yeah,

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, well, I don't fucking know, so

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I've got to find out, Yeah, exactly, and just like

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>literally stuff on Rich repeat and like listening to little

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>tips and tricks and going, well, I don't know how

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 1>to do this thing, so I'm just going to fill

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>my mind with it. So true, and what would your

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of tip be to to get a handle of

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>being a bit more gritty in life, because I feel

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>like at the moment there's almost a stigma around. Obviously

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>people need to look after themselves and not hustle all

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the time, but there's almost this flip where people just don't.

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Want to work hard anymore. I don't want to do

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 2>we a week in Kabet. I don't need to work.

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 2>You just need to work. Oh my god, I hate us,

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean? Though I know, and

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm saying. This is I feel like this

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>almost is like a.

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Taboo topic because I completely get that it's but that's

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the thing is, like, let's even play with this idea.

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Why does it have to be all or nothing? Why

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>can there not be the duality of yes, I can

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>work really hard and really care about this thing and

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>then also find a balance within still having boundaries and

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>serving myself. Like I feel that, I think like we're

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, especially if you're listening to this podcast,

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you're a conscious You're a conscious enough human to hold

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the duality of both and be able to listen to

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>this podcast and not go, oh, they're just talking about,

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, toxic hustle.

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Culture.

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, we're not talking about that. But also you know,

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>it goes into how much we talk about seasons a tier,

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>so true, like knowing when you're putting in the effort

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and having that priority and going no, I want that thing,

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>and also knowing when to you know.

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Draw back. That's even like in the Williams Sisters.

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Story of I remember the part when like they wanted

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to enter competitions and their dad, you know, didn't Richard

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't let.

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Them, Yeah, the junior tournaments and he was like no.

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Like let's wait, we're still in a season of refining

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>our skills.

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 3>And I remember that like the coaches being like what

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 3>they're fun? Yeah, like what is happening? This is not

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 3>how it's done.

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's what I mean. I think it's allowed

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>to look different for everyone.

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 3>That's such a good point too. There isn't necessarily a

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 3>set path, even though people tell you there is, yes,

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, you don't have to finish school and

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.239
<v Speaker 3>then do this and then do this and then do

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.239
<v Speaker 3>this if that's not what feels right to you. And

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 3>especially what I noticed with the Williams sisters as well,

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 3>is they were obviously the first ones or some of

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 3>the first people to achieve what they did to get

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 3>to the standard they were, and it's like there wasn't

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 3>necessarily spot for them. And it's that resistance that you

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 3>feel when you're trying to carve a new path, and

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 3>it's like hiking. If you're not going on the path

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 3>everyone else is gone. You're gonna have to cut some

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.399
<v Speaker 3>trees out of your way, but it's gonna be so good,

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 3>and it also makes it easier for the next person.

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 3>And just remembering that your journey won't look like everybody else's,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 3>it won't follow the same as everybody else's, and it's okay.

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent, and like kind of going off that

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>attia is like I love that. You know, quote unquote

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the Williams sisters didn't belong in tennis of how they

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>were brought up, you know, like you're saying people who

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 1>dependent tennis had a lot more money and all those

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>different things, but it's like they still were so persistent

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, no, I'm doing this.

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Thing exactly, And it's almost like the persistence is what

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 3>gets you there. Y, you just have to almost nag enough.

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, It's like me with my teachers, Yeah, you just

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 1>got to annoy them until they give you what you're

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I love it so much, but it is, it's so inspiring,

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's so true of people may even be listening

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to this episode and going like ten thousand hours, that's like,

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 1>it's so ridiculous, it's so obsessive. Yeah, But for instance,

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>like it's even this podcast, we're ordinary people doing extraordinary things. Yeah,

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>And to do an extraordinary thing sometimes you need to

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>do things that not other people are doing exactly. And

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:40.399
<v Speaker 1>so in this case it might look obsessive. But if

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you've got that vision and you're like, no, I'm going

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 1>to do this extraordinary thing, be okay with people calling

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you obsessive, be okay with not feeling like you long,

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>and be okay with like, I'm just gonna do the

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>thing anyway, and trust that if I put in the effort,

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I will, you know, have the result.

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 3>I totally agree. And something on that line that I've

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 3>been thinking about a lot at the moment is the

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 3>quote unquote goats of industries. When you listen to their stories, George,

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 3>you didn't know what goat? So maybe I.

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Asked it's like, what is goat?

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 3>So in case anyone else doesn't know goat is greatest

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 3>of all time. So when you hear the stories of

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 3>these ghoats, it just sounds of industries like like the

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Williams sisters or like Lewis Hamilton and Ed Sheeran, And

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 3>you listen to the to their journey and the amount

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.839
<v Speaker 3>of hours they put in and potentially the way their

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 3>parents maybe brought them up. It's very controversial and a

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 3>lot of people will say, oh my gosh, I'd never

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 3>do that to my kids. It's so toxic. You can't

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 3>force them to do things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, look where they are now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so interesting that you say this because Tim

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<v Speaker 1>literally says this thing where he gets annoyed. And Tim

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<v Speaker 1>is very He's got a natural ability with sport. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like put Tim in any sport and he can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's very what I'm jealous.

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<v Speaker 2>Like coordinated.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>And he says all the time he wish his parents

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<v Speaker 1>had put him because he used to do like just

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<v Speaker 1>random sports all the time, Like he'd go from tennis

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<v Speaker 1>to football to anything, just because he loved moving. But

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't stick to one because he got bored. But

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<v Speaker 1>he wished his parents were like more no, you're good

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<v Speaker 1>at this.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's stick with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Because he's like, like such a typical I cout

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of pro he wished his parents almost forced

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<v Speaker 1>him to do that because he already has the natural ability.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, imagine if I actually did the ten thousand hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like.

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<v Speaker 2>I could do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so interesting because he's like, if i'm's good

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<v Speaker 1>at a sport, we're fucking going hard.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She has no choice, no choice.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is really interesting because it is like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want a normal life, yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Or do you want a quote unquote extraordinary life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful and just like folding it back to

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<v Speaker 1>what I was saying before, I feel like there is

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<v Speaker 1>space for duality here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there is space for you.

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<v Speaker 1>To be listening and go, oh look, not for me,

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<v Speaker 1>not interested, but maybe down the track something happens, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe you were a child star and you're

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<v Speaker 1>like it was pretty hectic and now I'm doing something different.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is that duality and that beautiful balance of

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<v Speaker 1>being passionate about something and having that determination and grit

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<v Speaker 1>and going all in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and remembering it's not always gonna feel fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Like, I think that's such a good point to

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<v Speaker 1>tier of Like, imagine training six hours a day every day,

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<v Speaker 1>hate it. How exhausted it would be physically and mentally

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<v Speaker 1>mentally exhausted.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine like waking up and it's bucketing, and your dad's like, cool,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go, and you're just like, are you Kiddy's rat movies?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to get some popcorn and watch some movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. My question is what sort of questions would you

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<v Speaker 3>ask yourself before you decide to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go all in on a goal?

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<v Speaker 1>M Interesting, The biggest thing is having you know the

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<v Speaker 1>clarity around that being your goal you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>in like all in, and also like remembering you can

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<v Speaker 1>always change your mind. Yeah, for sure, it's not set

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<v Speaker 1>in stone. And I truly believe that's like me doing

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<v Speaker 1>a six year law degree and then not being a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's a lot of hours, probably ten thousands, probably

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<v Speaker 3>getting close.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally getting close if we include high school.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing is I would never regret that

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so on my journey of who I am

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<v Speaker 1>and I've developed so many skills for that. And also

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<v Speaker 1>there was times where I was so passionate about that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It aabled me to be the person I am, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think also realizing that it's like you can't fuck

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<v Speaker 1>it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so true.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'd also ask myself how fulfilled I would

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<v Speaker 3>feel if I went all in on that thing after

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<v Speaker 3>I'd achieved it, and also if I'd be comfortable with

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<v Speaker 3>the sacrifices I'd have to make to go all in

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<v Speaker 3>on that thing, because you'd kind of be kidding yourself

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<v Speaker 3>if you think that you wouldn't be making some sacrifices,

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<v Speaker 3>like yes, you can have the duality and you can

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<v Speaker 3>have it all, but there's still be a few things

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<v Speaker 3>that fall away and really making sure that you're okay

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<v Speaker 3>with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that so much. That's a huge thing of

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<v Speaker 1>like what are you going to you know, sacrifice, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's even this is tying it back to

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<v Speaker 1>a weird point of I remember when I was, you know, postpartum,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to like a year postpartum with IVY,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like felt like crap physically, and I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just thought a year would go past and I

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<v Speaker 1>would just feel like myself.

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 2>And then I actually really looked at.

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:30.240
<v Speaker 1>My life and I was like, I still eat like crap.

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I still like I'm not putting in much effort into

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>going to gym and making the sacrifices, and I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>eating a lot of sugar.

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 2>And like, I got really.

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<v Speaker 1>Honest with myself because they're like, there was no sacrifices.

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing the same things and wanting a different result.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is the definition of the sanity.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so what was really beautiful of that is

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<v Speaker 1>I got really honest and then I made some changes

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 1>which are quote unquote sacrifices, like getting up an hour earlier,

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 1>cutting out sugar, cutting out you know, certain foods for

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>my thyroid condition, not for any other reason, and certain things.

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I'm feeling so much better physically. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's so interesting because I was like, oh wow, I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't even thought about the sacrifice sacrifices. Yeah, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>something now you look back, I'm like, thank god I

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 1>sacrifice those things because I'm feeling.

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 2>So much better.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Oh I love.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like a really random point. All right, So to

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<v Speaker 1>finish a.

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<v Speaker 3>Tear, Yeah, I think everyone should use their story, the

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Williams Sisters story as sort of food for thought when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to what you're leaving behind and the path

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<v Speaker 3>you're carving out and if it benefits you in while

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 3>you're here in this world existential I love it, and

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<v Speaker 3>if it benefits people after you, and if that's a

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<v Speaker 3>priority of yours, asking yourself, what is the legacy you're

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 3>leaving behind for people or how do you want to

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<v Speaker 3>leave people?

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<v Speaker 1>And what are you like in your legacy? Like what

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<v Speaker 1>are your values? What are you currently making a priority

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<v Speaker 1>and do you want to change that?

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Just some thought provoking, some.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought provoking questions, just some thought WOWO.

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<v Speaker 1>Silly gals too, silly gals asking you some fun questions.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so amazing hearing more about their story. You

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<v Speaker 1>told it so beautiful a tea. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for researching that and bringing that to us and guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we hope this has got you thinking about your legacy,

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