1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: our respects to elders past, present and emerging and extend 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer Podcast. This is the podcast where we 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self mix 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the scenes 9 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: of my life running two businesses and being among Think 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 1: of us as the perfect combo of brunch with your 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: besties mixed with self development. No matter where you are 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: in your journey, we're here to help you be curious, 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness. 14 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: If you're ready to get into the. 15 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: Driver's seat of your own life and stop letting life 16 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: pass you by, then. 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: You're in the right place. 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome back to the Potty, Happy Friday 19 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: and Happy Women's History Month a tea, Happy Women's History Month. 20 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: We are so excited for this special episode for you today. 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: It is part one of our four part Her Story 22 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: series and we'll be talking about the Queen's Serena and 23 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: Venus Williams. 24 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I love them and in such a 25 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: good episode. It's just so Saol produces, it organizes the 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: whole thing. This was an amazing episode. No, I definitely 27 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: a Tia. 28 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: I want to give you a shout out and say 29 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: such incredible work. Thank you researching and putting this series together. 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: It has been it's so it has been epic to 31 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: see you really like hone in on your Zoner genius 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: and bring this to the podcast. 33 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: Thank you. I hope everyone likes it so we can 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: do more. 35 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: She's like, please get those listeners, guys. 36 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: So in each episode, we are sharing the stories of 37 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: iconic women who have made history or who we feel 38 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: are currently making history. So these women are trailblazers in 39 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: their chosen careers and they're doing things differently, which you 40 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: guys know we absolutely love. We then unpack certain aspects 41 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: and values that they model in everything they do, and 42 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: then we have discussion of how we can use this 43 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: as an expander in our own lives. 44 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: So what we. 45 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Really want you to start thinking about throughout this series 46 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: is what legacy or impact are you leaving? Could you 47 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: do things differently? Could you think outside the box. How 48 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: can you push yourself out of your comfort zone and grow? 49 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: But before we get into it, what's your weekly recommendation, Georgie, Well, 50 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: kind of. 51 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: Just piguring back. 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: Wow, Well, actually kind of that's a great segue of 53 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: what I just said of my recommendation to you guys 54 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: this week is thinking how much of your life is 55 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: just a comfort zone and where you are actually seeking 56 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: discomfort to stretch and grow yourself towards. 57 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: Where you want to go. 58 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: Oh and this is actually one of my March intentions. 59 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: I did a really about this on Instagram, because like, 60 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: if we really look at our life, most of the 61 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: things we do is routine and comfort. 62 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: And it's normal. We are human. 63 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: And I just had in our home home the other 64 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: day where I was like, oh, I think I have 65 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: been sinking, you know, comfort lately, and I really want 66 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: to like step outside my comfort zone because I know 67 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: that's where the magic happens. So I'm doing that within 68 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, the businesses, but also personally, which I've never 69 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: really done or been like interested in. So for example, 70 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: the weekend that just went, me and Tim went to 71 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: house in house in Cabareta and I randomly I was 72 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: very spontaneous to here, and I'm never spontaneous. 73 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: I booked in horse riding. Oh I love that, and 74 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 2: it was like I've. 75 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: Never been horse riding something out of my comfort zone 76 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: and just got like kind of, you know, a bit roke. 77 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: So fun though, and it was so. 78 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: Fun and I felt really like present and in the moment, 79 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie, Like before we went, I 80 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: was like a little bit nervous and I was like, Oh, 81 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how this is gonna go. And then 82 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: we went and it was awesome. But I'm yeah, I've 83 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: just been really thinking about this like theme in my 84 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: life of like where I actually just choose the most 85 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: comfortable thing. 86 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: And how I can maybe share that. I love that. 87 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about you? What's your weekly rack? 88 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: So this sound was damn to us on Instagram and 89 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: I loved it and I'm obsessed with it. So I'm 90 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: recommending So Weird a Real Sound because it's literally just 91 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: a real It's a song that that is coming out 92 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 3: next Friday. But I just feel like people need to 93 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: listen to it. Now, what do you mean it's coming 94 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 3: out next Friday. It's gonna be released next Friday. The 95 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: full song. 96 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: Oh what's the artist? Morgan Saint Jean. 97 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: Okay, play it. Yeah, you're gonna love it. 98 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: You want lucky girl syndrome. 99 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 4: You have to listen to this. I tried you. It's 100 00:05:53,000 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: a fine. 101 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: How good is it? 102 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 103 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: I love it. 104 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 3: I just it's got forty four point four KX right now. 105 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god, send it to me over. I did yesterday. Sorry, 106 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: I saw it was you and I ignored it. I 107 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: did them. I'm not in my DMS. Got a texted 108 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: yeah I know. Oh my god. I love that me too. 109 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 3: So that's my recommendation. She's literally at Morgan Saint Gene 110 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: on Instagram. So go listen to it till next Friday. 111 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: Thanks so much to here. 112 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Also men Tea both one, Harry Styles, Yes, so we can't. 113 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: That's not really a recommendation. That's just like a small flex. 114 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: You guys should listen to its music. It's great. Jamie 115 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: doesn't like him, but we do. 116 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: Actually, I do have like a bit more tangible recommend 117 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: Nation two Drive to Survive season five on Netflix. 118 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: Oh you're still going good? 119 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 120 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: So good is a little fun and still in it? Yeah, 121 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: of course the winner. Well, I'm just gonna put in 122 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: a Netflix out of Bank. Season three is out. Oh wait, 123 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: did I say this already? 124 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: No? 125 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: You told me postally. I was like, I feel like, guys, it's. 126 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: Really hard to know what I've told you and then 127 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: what I've told a Tia. It just merges into one. 128 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: I literally had to be like, did I already recommend 129 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: the no Froe thing? Because I can't remember I told 130 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: you all the podcasts. 131 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: It's like same people I am our only. 132 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: That's what it feels like. Sometimes we're just like talking 133 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: to no one. Anyway, guys, that's enough of that. Let's 134 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: get into this very special episode. You guys are gonna 135 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: love it. 136 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: So today we're going to be talking about Venus and 137 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: Serena Williams. 138 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with them, me too. I love them so much. 139 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: I'm so excited for this series, me too. Let'stal it 140 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: it to YOUA. 141 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: I thought I would start by telling you a little 142 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: bit about them, and then we can also chat at 143 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: the end about what we love about their stories. 144 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's their story is just so incredible. It's next level, 145 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: all right, get straight into it. 146 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: So, Venus and Serena are the youngest of five siblings 147 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: before they were born. It is said that their dad 148 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: actually decided that they were going to be famous tennis players. 149 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 3: And there's a rumor that he wrote like a seventy 150 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: eight page plan of how he was going to get 151 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: them to be professional tennis players, which I love. 152 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god, does anyone have like a copy of them? 153 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: I mean it as I say, can we use it? 154 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: Like? 155 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: I would love to know. I knew you probably don't 156 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: have this answer, but like, why tennis? 157 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 3: So he actually saw, just before they were born, or 158 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 3: before Venus was born, a tennis player, I don't remember 159 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: her name exactly get a forty thousand dollar check, and 160 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 3: because they weren't well off, when she won that money, 161 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: he was like, we're going to have two more kids 162 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: and they're going to be tennis players. 163 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: Oh my god. It's like me watching legally Blonde. 164 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah and being like, what I could be smart and fabulous? 165 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: What do you mean so good? 166 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: So he actually started coaching four year old Venus on 167 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: a court in Compton, Los Angeles, but tried to convince 168 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: her to quit tennis when she was about eight years 169 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: old because of how he saw junior tennis parents were 170 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: treating their kids. He wasn't really happy because it was 171 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: a bit toxic, a lot of pressure on the kids, 172 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: and Venus refused to leave tennis and instead quit track, 173 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: which was another sport she was pursuing at the time, 174 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 3: even though she was really good at it, because she 175 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 3: wanted to focus on tennis. Yeah. Love. So both girls 176 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: grew up in the suburbs of in California, which, for 177 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: those of you who don't know, it's actually considered to 178 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: be an area of high poverty, so a very low 179 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 3: socio economic status in the States. Their early playing careers 180 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: evolved while competing on public courts in the housing projects. 181 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: Although this was an area that was full of violence, gangs, 182 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: and high rates of homicides, they prevailed to become two 183 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: of the elite tennis players in the world, which we know. 184 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: So in nineteen ninety one, Richard uprooted his family to 185 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: enroll both Venus and Serena in Rick Mackey's Delray Beach 186 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: Tennis Academy in Florida, where they trained six hours a day, 187 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: six days a week for four years. Rick was very 188 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: well respected and established tennis professional, so it was a 189 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: massive deal that they had that opportunity. So it was 190 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: also in nineteen ninety one that Richard made the decision 191 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: to withdraw the girls from all junior tennis tournaments, which 192 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: was very, very criticized because that's not really what was 193 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: done or the conventional path to being a tennis professional. 194 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: And what was his reasoning. 195 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: So his reasoning was because it was a lot of 196 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: there was a lot of racial hostility, is what he said, 197 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: towards them from the other players, and he didn't like 198 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: the pressure it was putting on the girls. When their 199 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 3: coach was asked why he let that happen in an 200 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: interview with The New York Times, he said putting Venus 201 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: and Serena in a traditional development system would be like 202 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: putting her in prison, which I thought was a very 203 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 3: interesting quote. So in nineteen ninety four, so three years later, 204 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: at the age of fourteen, Venus made her debut as 205 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: a professional tennis player, which was very very young to 206 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 3: be doing that, and the night before her first game, 207 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 3: she was approached by Nike and offered a three million 208 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: dollar endorsement deal. Now we're going to play a snippet 209 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: of this scene happening from the movie King Richard. Keep 210 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: in mind this movie is not an exact accurate account 211 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: of events, but it was executive produced by Venus and Serena, 212 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: so we do know that things like this did happen. 213 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 5: That is three million dollars signature shoe signature lying. We 214 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 5: want to build our women's brand around Venus Maker Marque Player. 215 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 5: How's that sound? 216 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 6: Well? 217 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 7: I think uh we actually you need to be pitching. 218 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 5: Huh well, Venus, what do you think I mean that? 219 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 5: That is a generous deal. It's a million more than 220 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 5: Kapriotti got before she went pro, plus a real commitment 221 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 5: to invest in the charity and outreach programs you and 222 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 5: your family support. We think you're going to have a 223 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 5: tremendous career and we want to help you build it 224 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 5: starting today. 225 00:12:52,320 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 6: It's yeah, maybe maybe maybe just have a minute, you know, 226 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 6: just let the family absolutely no problems. 227 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 5: Just just just to be clear, this deal is for 228 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 5: tonight only. It's it's off the tablets. You just step 229 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 5: on that court tomorrow than you talk about it. 230 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: We'll just we'll just take a seat. 231 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 6: You know, there's a heck of a seafood buffet. Okay, 232 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 6: at level right, you don't want to hit one or 233 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 6: two a lot of people. 234 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 5: Just fix your face to the man, get out the door. 235 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: What does he mean by. 236 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 5: Let the man get out the door? 237 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 6: Face? 238 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: I want to know what he means. 239 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 8: We're going to talk. 240 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 7: About it when the man just let me get out 241 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 7: the doll What is going on? 242 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: What did he mean by it's one night only tonight only? 243 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 7: Only worry about that? 244 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 6: That's right, He's trying scarce and guess what, I'm scared. 245 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm freaking. I'm freaking terrified, guys. 246 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 6: What what is going on? Three million dollars? What's the 247 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 6: problem here? 248 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 5: Rick? 249 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: Let me see. 250 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 7: They haven't even seen a girl play yet. Yeah, you 251 00:13:59,040 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 7: know that. 252 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 6: I mean, that's the point. 253 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: They don't have to. 254 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 7: Richard. 255 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 2: You did it? 256 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: Hey, you did it? 257 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 7: Richard. 258 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 5: Look I thought you were nuts. 259 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 6: They're talking and the interviews and the nonsense, but look. 260 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 7: You were right. She's a star. 261 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 2: Look at what we won? 262 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 5: This is it? 263 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: Why is everybody so glum? 264 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: Please? 265 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 6: Guys or seeing Please? 266 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 5: Can you help me out here? 267 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: You need to be talking to venus. 268 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: V. 269 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: What's going on? 270 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: I just want to show them what I can do. Okay, 271 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: I understand it's a. 272 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 6: Good offer, but this is not a good offer. This 273 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 6: is an unbelievable offer. Guys. This is money that changes 274 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 6: your lives, that changes your family's lives. 275 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 7: What do we rick you asking this girl take all 276 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 7: the hard way she's undere for the last to stop 277 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 7: to me all the hard way she's undeal for the 278 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 7: last ten years and accept the face offer to come 279 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 7: through the door. You know that's not right, Richard. 280 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: The draw is not even out yet. 281 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 7: We don't know the girl is asking for an opportunity 282 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 7: to compete. 283 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: We don't even you know who she's playing. 284 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 7: She don't care nothing about that. Venus Williams, do you 285 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 7: care who you play? No, daddy, Venus Williams. Are you 286 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 7: gonna beat whoever on the other side of that net? 287 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 5: Yesdy Venus Williams. 288 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 7: Do you want take this deal? 289 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 6: No? 290 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 7: Well deady is We're not taking deal. 291 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: Let's go get some ny. Let's just put this in perspective. 292 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: So she's fourteen, she's fourteen years fourteen, and she gets 293 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: a three million dollar contract from Nike before she's even competed. 294 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: Yes, and so the the condition of that was, like 295 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: that offer expired that night. She had to accept that 296 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: offer before she walked onto the court. Was getting an 297 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: offer like that like unheard of? It was unheard of 298 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: because it was the highest of junior had ever been 299 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: offered at that point in time. 300 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah. 301 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: And then was it like a certain amount of years 302 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: or something with Nike, Like was it a long contract? 303 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: I think it was just a short contract. But the 304 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: plus in getting off before the first game is that 305 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: even if you lose, you have that money. 306 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: Wow. 307 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: Whereas otherwise to then get endorsement deals after she'd played 308 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: her first match, she would have had to have done 309 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: a really really good job. 310 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 311 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that she would have had then so much 312 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: pressure to perform yeaheah. 313 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So she turned it down. 314 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: She turned it down, and her coach and their lawyer 315 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: were devastated. They were like, you've made a massive mistake. 316 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: You should have taken the contract. We don't know what's 317 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: going to happen tomorrow. Because I think they also thought 318 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: she's fourteen, Like she's playing against women that are twice 319 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: her age. 320 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, I hadn't thought of that. 321 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. So even if she didn't win, the fact she 322 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: was there was a massive achievement. And in their heads 323 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: they were like, let's just take the three million because 324 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: we put so much money into getting here. 325 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 326 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: Of course. 327 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: So after that, so the next day she had a 328 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: professional debut against a player that was ranked fifty ninth 329 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: in the world at the time, and she won that match. 330 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: And then she played I apologized for my pronunciation of 331 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: this name, a Ranster Sanchez Vicario, who was ranked second 332 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 3: in the world at the time, and Venus gave her 333 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: a run for her money. She started the game off winning, 334 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: but then Vicario requested a bathroom break in the middle 335 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: of the game, and that's Venus psyched herself out when 336 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 3: I have heard about. 337 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: This, Oh oh, I remember watching this in the movie. Yeah. 338 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: So she was going so well and even now Venus 339 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 3: is reflected on that as the game she should have. 340 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: Won one hundred Yeah. 341 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: And so after that bathroom break, she didn't score another 342 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: point and actually ended up losing the game, but still 343 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: amazing because she was ranked second in the world. 344 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 345 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: And seven months later, Rebok signed a five year contract 346 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: with Venus for a reported twelve million dollars. So she 347 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 3: was fourteen years old signing a five year endoors name 348 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: with Rainfow for twelve million dollars, which is just insane, 349 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: and that was also unheard of for a newcomer to 350 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 3: the sport. Couple of years later, Serena had her professional debut, 351 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: also at the age of fourteen, and as the world 352 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 3: got to see and know how good Venus was, the 353 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: media's version of the sisters really put Serena as a 354 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 3: lesser player when she started off. They said she's not 355 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 3: as good as Venus. 356 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 2: Interesting. 357 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, So in an interview with Harper's Bizarre in February 358 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty two, Venus actually said, usually in one family, 359 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 3: there's one good player and then the other one is 360 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: not that great. And I think people told Serena she 361 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 3: wouldn't be great. The fearlessness with which she approached the 362 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: game was something I've always really admired. She doesn't accept. Second, 363 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: she explicitly told me herself that she plays for first place. 364 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I got full body shivers. 365 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: It's amazing and it's no secret that these women have 366 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: gone on to break records, but I thought i'd just 367 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: rattle off a future really show the magnitude of their achievements. 368 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: So both sisters have been ranked number one in singles tennis, 369 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 3: Venus for a total of eleven weeks beginning in February 370 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: two thousand and two, Serena for a total of three 371 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: hundred and sixteen weeks beginning in July two thousand and two. 372 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: Venus has won forty nine singles titles over the course 373 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: of her career, and Serena has won seventy three. The 374 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: Williams sisters are the only two women during the Open 375 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 3: era to contest four consecutive major finals, from the two 376 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 3: thousand and two French Open to the two thousand and 377 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: three Australian Open. Serena won all four of these finals. 378 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 3: The sisters are nonetheless personally very close. They've won twenty 379 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: two titles when playing doubles together, including fourteen majors and 380 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: three Olympic gold medals. I just I can't even comprehend. 381 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: It's so so much, so incredible and what a team. 382 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: I know, and I love that they have never let 383 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 3: it ruin their relationship. Their relationship is still very strong. Yeah, 384 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: So to end, I thought I would give a little 385 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: fun fact tell us the all Williams final at the 386 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 3: two thousand and one US Open drew a larger television 387 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 3: audience than the Notre Dame Nebraska college football game being 388 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: broadcast at the same time. So college football in the 389 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: state is a really big thing. So for two female 390 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 3: sports players to draw a bigger audience than the all 391 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: male college football teams. Was a massive deal, and in fact, 392 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: is part of the reason that the women's final at 393 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: the US Open was moved to its primetime spot because 394 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: of the positive effect that the Williams Sisters had on 395 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: television ratings. CBS's four highest rated US Open women's finals 396 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: of the last decade all involved the Williams sisters. 397 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 398 00:20:59,080 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: I do. 399 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I even like reflecting right now. I am personally 400 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a sport person. No, neither am 401 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: I Tim is a sport person or kind of. 402 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm not a sport person. 403 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't really know any other tennis stars except 404 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: the Williams sisters. I know, even and be interested in 405 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: their story absolutely, and be inspired. 406 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: I agree. 407 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 3: I love them so much, and I think just it's 408 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 3: so clear from their life how hard they've worked to 409 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: get where they are. 410 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's actually let's unpack their story. 411 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I. 412 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: Think like the biggest theme from the Williams sisters is 413 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: their determination and grit. Yes, for sure, because I like, 414 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: we've both seen the movie. Loved the movie. Shout out 415 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: to King Richard. It's amazing. Go and watch it. I 416 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: just I remember watching that and then knowing that, you know, 417 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: they had had a big help in the film, so 418 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: knowing it was mostly you know, real events. Yeah, and 419 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: seeing them, you know, play in the rain, and just 420 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: like continue and continue and continue, and just thinking like, 421 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: if you do want to do something, you can you 422 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: just have to be willing to put in that like 423 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: effort and work. 424 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and put in which is kind of controversial. 425 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, even saying that, just then I'm like, oh, I 426 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: feel like people are gonna come. 427 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: At me, watch your thoughts. 428 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 3: I totally agree. Like for me, the ten thousand hours 429 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: theory comes to mind. 430 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: What's that? 431 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: So, like, I know what it is, explain it to 432 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: the audience. 433 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: So the ten thousand hours theory is basically this concept 434 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 3: that if you do ten thousand hours of any activity, 435 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 3: you will be at an expert level. 436 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: And I talied it. 437 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 3: And the four hours, the six hours a day for 438 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 3: six weeks for four years, that actually adds up to 439 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 3: about seven five hundred hours. And that was just with 440 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: their coach, so yeah, not even before, not even before 441 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: when they were going with their dad to the court 442 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 3: every day. And I think it's also that concept of it's. 443 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: Not always going to be. 444 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: So easy, and you're not always going to have the 445 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 3: motivation to do the thing, but you have to do 446 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: it and remember your why, and it's not always going 447 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: to be like glamorous. 448 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. 449 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: I think people get rose colored glasses when you see 450 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: super successful people who've done these amazing things, and it's 451 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: so easy to like look at their life and go, oh, 452 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: they were probably rich, like they're in tennis, they're probably rich. 453 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: They're probably super wealthy because at the time when they 454 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: were going into tennis, it was very much like an elite. 455 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: You had to be wealthy, you had to be white sport, 456 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: so they had to have been rich, rich, rich rich 457 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 3: black people to be able to get in there. But 458 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: that's not the case. And it's just almost that reality 459 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: check of like who you don't have excuses. 460 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: It's actually reminding me. I have this like fun story. 461 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've told on the podcast before, 462 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: but I remember having this realization in maybe grade eleven 463 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: when I did decide I want to do law, and 464 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: I didn't really feel you know, the typical quote unquote smart. Yeah, 465 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: I think you know, my grades at that stage were 466 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: like c's and b's, Like I would you know, a 467 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: normal student. And I remember having this realization and saying, 468 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: I wonder what would happen if I applied myself to 469 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: my max effort. And I remember literally sitting down as 470 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: like you know, a fifteen year old and thinking, okay, 471 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: what could I do to get smarter? And I used 472 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: to do things like as soon as the teacher would 473 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: give us the assign because you usually had a good 474 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. And I remember, you know, I went 475 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: to a state school, so everyone started like, come on before, 476 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she gives me exciting and I remember thinking, okay, 477 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,239 Speaker 1: what do I actually because my whole thing was in 478 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: order for me to get into law, I needed to 479 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: basically get a's across the boat of all my subjects, 480 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: and so I would first of all get the assessment. 481 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: I would plot in, you know, the dates of I 482 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: had this big thing about drafts, so I used to 483 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: get two to three drafts. 484 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: To my teacher to look over to refine. Wow, because I. 485 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: Thought, like, surely me handing in half a draft, and 486 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: so a big thing I would PLoP in the dates 487 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: of when I'm giving my teacher the drafts because I 488 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: knew I had to get two to three in order 489 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: to get an A, because that's just what I personally 490 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: had to do. Yeah, And then I would go to 491 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: the library and I'd hire out all the books about 492 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: that subject, or if it wasn't in the school library 493 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: because my school library had fucking notebooks, I would go 494 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: to my local library, yeah, and hire out the books. 495 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: And I would literally hire every single one, and I 496 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: would love sit in the library for ages, get them all, 497 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: and then I would start my assignment. And yeah, I 498 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: would be that annoying student who would like, at lunchtime, 499 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: knock on my teachers. 500 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: Oh, your teachers, Yeah. 501 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: My teachers, like I don't know what was it called, 502 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: like staff, Yeah, the staff room. 503 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: And being like could you look over this and give 504 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: me some point as blah blah blah blah. 505 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: And I remember them even being like I could just 506 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: tell they were so annoyed by me. But I do 507 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: you mean like I was so determined. No, I'm getting 508 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: an A in this and I know things don't come 509 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: to me as naturally as you know, some other children. 510 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: So this is just what I have to do. 511 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I remember having those thoughts when I was, 512 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen and sixteen, and then because I then 513 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: did that and applied myself so much and did get 514 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: an op that I could, you know, get into law. 515 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: Then my brain went, oh, okay, that's just what we 516 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: have to do. Yeah, And so I love in their 517 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: story that it was like, no, I'm not saying I'm 518 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: like the Williams sisters the resonate, you know, like it's 519 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: like they literally just trained day in day out, like. 520 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: That huge grit is. It's such. 521 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: It's such a thing like if you don't know something 522 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: or if you're not good at it, didn't you say 523 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: Ed Sheeran? 524 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Ed Schune did the ten thousand Hours. So 525 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 3: he was not a great singer. 526 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: I just don't believe that, I know, right, And Ed 527 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: Sheeron is an angel. 528 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: I love it. I love you, Ed, And if you're listening, 529 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: come seeing to us. 530 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 531 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: So he wasn't a good singer, and he just practiced 532 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: and practiced and practiced and he got good. And Sun 533 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 3: actually spoke about the ten thousand hours theory in an 534 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: interview a few years ago, and I want to share 535 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: a snippet of that here. 536 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 8: Have you ever heard of this theory about the ten 537 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 8: thousand hours theory? So that theory works right. So when 538 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 8: I first started out, I saw Damien Rice in concert 539 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 8: and I mention it in a song. I was said, 540 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 8: I won't stop till my names in lights Stadium, Heights 541 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 8: with Damien Rice, and literally like I watched him and 542 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 8: was like, I want to do that. One day and 543 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 8: wrote a million songs, did a million gigs and of 544 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 8: ended up kind of doing a similar thing. But it 545 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 8: literally came from writing a song a day, or two 546 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 8: songs a day, or five songs a day, and just 547 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 8: getting all these songs out of me, doing a million gigs, 548 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 8: sometimes three gigs a day. We did six gigs a 549 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 8: day one year at Glastonbury. But I think you view 550 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 8: it as a dirty tap. When you switch a dirty 551 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 8: tap on, it's going to flow shit water out for 552 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 8: a substantial amount of time, and then clean water's going 553 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 8: to start flowing and now and then you'll get a 554 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 8: bit of shit. But as long as it gets out 555 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 8: of you, it's fine. So with songs, you're gonna write 556 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 8: shit songs at the beginning, you are. My songs were terrible, 557 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 8: my rahps, like I've listened to it the other day. 558 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 8: It's awful, But I got it out of me, And 559 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 8: the more and more you write, the more and more 560 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 8: you experience, and then you start flowing clean water and 561 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 8: songs start getting better and better and better. And when 562 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 8: you just you're on a good streak, you're writing good 563 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 8: songs now, and then you're gonna write a shit song 564 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 8: and that song it's out of you and you can 565 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 8: move on. And it's the same with gigs, like you 566 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 8: will always play bad gigs at the beginning. That's what 567 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 8: you need to do. And then the more gigs you do, 568 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 8: the better you'll get now, and then you'll have a 569 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 8: shit gig. But that's all right because you've got it 570 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 8: out of you and you've experienced it. So I just say, 571 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 8: the more and more you can do, put in your 572 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 8: ten thousand hours, and. 573 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: I think it's just a testament to natural talent will 574 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: only get you so far. Yes, and sometimes it's better 575 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: if you don't have the natural talent because you start 576 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: working harder earlier, and that just becomes like you said, 577 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: how it is, it's the habit. 578 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you almost have that activation of oh fuck, I 579 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: don't have the natural talent, so I've got to put 580 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: in the effort. But that almost can be well, it 581 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: will be get you there. Faster and be the thing 582 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: that is your you know, determination and the reason why 583 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: you then go achieve the things. 584 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. 585 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: I love that and that seemed interesting. Guys, like, have 586 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: a think about where in your life are you telling 587 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: yourself you're not really good at something? Yeah, but you 588 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: actually have put not a lot of time and effort 589 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: into excelling that skill, even though you would want to. 590 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: And I feel like you can only say you're not 591 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: good at something if you've done ten thousand hours of 592 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: it and you're still but you won't be, and then 593 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: I'll believe you and then we'll say okay. 594 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: But that's even like, you know, people ask in regards 595 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: to me and Cooper starting naked Harbret, but how did 596 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: you know how to start a business? And it's like 597 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: I remember listening to probably thousands of hours of business podcasts, yeah, 598 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: because I was like, well, I don't fucking know, so 599 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: I've got to find out, Yeah, exactly, and just like 600 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: literally stuff on Rich repeat and like listening to little 601 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: tips and tricks and going, well, I don't know how 602 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: to do this thing, so I'm just going to fill 603 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: my mind with it. So true, and what would your 604 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: sort of tip be to to get a handle of 605 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: being a bit more gritty in life, because I feel 606 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: like at the moment there's almost a stigma around. Obviously 607 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: people need to look after themselves and not hustle all 608 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: the time, but there's almost this flip where people just don't. 609 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: Want to work hard anymore. I don't want to do 610 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: we a week in Kabet. I don't need to work. 611 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: You just need to work. Oh my god, I hate us, 612 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Though I know, and 613 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. This is I feel like this 614 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: almost is like a. 615 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: Taboo topic because I completely get that it's but that's 616 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: the thing is, like, let's even play with this idea. 617 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: Why does it have to be all or nothing? Why 618 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: can there not be the duality of yes, I can 619 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: work really hard and really care about this thing and 620 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: then also find a balance within still having boundaries and 621 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: serving myself. Like I feel that, I think like we're 622 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: I feel like, especially if you're listening to this podcast, 623 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: you're a conscious You're a conscious enough human to hold 624 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: the duality of both and be able to listen to 625 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: this podcast and not go, oh, they're just talking about, 626 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: you know, toxic hustle. 627 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: Culture. 628 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we're not talking about that. But also you know, 629 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: it goes into how much we talk about seasons a tier, 630 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: so true, like knowing when you're putting in the effort 631 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: and having that priority and going no, I want that thing, 632 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: and also knowing when to you know. 633 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: Draw back. That's even like in the Williams Sisters. 634 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: Story of I remember the part when like they wanted 635 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: to enter competitions and their dad, you know, didn't Richard 636 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: didn't let. 637 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: Them, Yeah, the junior tournaments and he was like no. 638 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: Like let's wait, we're still in a season of refining 639 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: our skills. 640 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 3: And I remember that like the coaches being like what 641 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: they're fun? Yeah, like what is happening? This is not 642 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: how it's done. 643 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what I mean. I think it's allowed 644 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: to look different for everyone. 645 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 3: That's such a good point too. There isn't necessarily a 646 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 3: set path, even though people tell you there is, yes, 647 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: and it's like, you don't have to finish school and 648 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 3: then do this and then do this and then do 649 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 3: this if that's not what feels right to you. And 650 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 3: especially what I noticed with the Williams sisters as well, 651 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 3: is they were obviously the first ones or some of 652 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 3: the first people to achieve what they did to get 653 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: to the standard they were, and it's like there wasn't 654 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 3: necessarily spot for them. And it's that resistance that you 655 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 3: feel when you're trying to carve a new path, and 656 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: it's like hiking. If you're not going on the path 657 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: everyone else is gone. You're gonna have to cut some 658 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 3: trees out of your way, but it's gonna be so good, 659 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: and it also makes it easier for the next person. 660 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 3: And just remembering that your journey won't look like everybody else's, 661 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 3: it won't follow the same as everybody else's, and it's okay. 662 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: One hundred percent, and like kind of going off that 663 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: attia is like I love that. You know, quote unquote 664 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: the Williams sisters didn't belong in tennis of how they 665 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: were brought up, you know, like you're saying people who 666 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: dependent tennis had a lot more money and all those 667 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: different things, but it's like they still were so persistent 668 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: and they're like, no, I'm doing this. 669 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 3: Thing exactly, And it's almost like the persistence is what 670 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: gets you there. Y, you just have to almost nag enough. 671 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: Yes, It's like me with my teachers, Yeah, you just 672 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: got to annoy them until they give you what you're 673 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: I love it so much, but it is, it's so inspiring, 674 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: and it's so true of people may even be listening 675 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: to this episode and going like ten thousand hours, that's like, 676 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: it's so ridiculous, it's so obsessive. Yeah, But for instance, 677 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: like it's even this podcast, we're ordinary people doing extraordinary things. Yeah, 678 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: And to do an extraordinary thing sometimes you need to 679 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: do things that not other people are doing exactly. And 680 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: so in this case it might look obsessive. But if 681 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: you've got that vision and you're like, no, I'm going 682 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: to do this extraordinary thing, be okay with people calling 683 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: you obsessive, be okay with not feeling like you long, 684 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: and be okay with like, I'm just gonna do the 685 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: thing anyway, and trust that if I put in the effort, 686 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: I will, you know, have the result. 687 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 3: I totally agree. And something on that line that I've 688 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 3: been thinking about a lot at the moment is the 689 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: quote unquote goats of industries. When you listen to their stories, George, 690 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 3: you didn't know what goat? So maybe I. 691 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 2: Asked it's like, what is goat? 692 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 3: So in case anyone else doesn't know goat is greatest 693 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 3: of all time. So when you hear the stories of 694 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 3: these ghoats, it just sounds of industries like like the 695 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 3: Williams sisters or like Lewis Hamilton and Ed Sheeran, And 696 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 3: you listen to the to their journey and the amount 697 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 3: of hours they put in and potentially the way their 698 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 3: parents maybe brought them up. It's very controversial and a 699 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 3: lot of people will say, oh my gosh, I'd never 700 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 3: do that to my kids. It's so toxic. You can't 701 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 3: force them to do things like that. 702 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 2: But like, look where they are now. 703 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: This is so interesting that you say this because Tim 704 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: literally says this thing where he gets annoyed. And Tim 705 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: is very He's got a natural ability with sport. Yeah, 706 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: like put Tim in any sport and he can do it. 707 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: Like he's very what I'm jealous. 708 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 2: Like coordinated. 709 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 3: Yeah we're not. 710 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: And he says all the time he wish his parents 711 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: had put him because he used to do like just 712 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: random sports all the time, Like he'd go from tennis 713 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: to football to anything, just because he loved moving. But 714 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: he didn't stick to one because he got bored. But 715 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: he wished his parents were like more no, you're good 716 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: at this. 717 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: Let's stick with it. 718 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Because he's like, like such a typical I cout 719 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: a bit of pro he wished his parents almost forced 720 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: him to do that because he already has the natural ability. 721 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: He's like, imagine if I actually did the ten thousand hours, 722 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: and he's like. 723 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 2: I could do it. 724 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: And it's so interesting because he's like, if i'm's good 725 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: at a sport, we're fucking going hard. 726 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 727 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 2: She has no choice, no choice. 728 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: So it is really interesting because it is like, do 729 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: you want a normal life, yeah? 730 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 2: Or do you want a quote unquote extraordinary life. 731 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 732 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 2: So it's like, I don't know. 733 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful and just like folding it back to 734 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: what I was saying before, I feel like there is 735 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: space for duality here. 736 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 737 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: I feel like there is space for you. 738 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: To be listening and go, oh look, not for me, 739 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 1: not interested, but maybe down the track something happens, or 740 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you were a child star and you're 741 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: like it was pretty hectic and now I'm doing something different. 742 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: But there is that duality and that beautiful balance of 743 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: being passionate about something and having that determination and grit 744 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: and going all in. 745 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, and remembering it's not always gonna feel fun. 746 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: Yes, Like, I think that's such a good point to 747 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: tier of Like, imagine training six hours a day every day, 748 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: hate it. How exhausted it would be physically and mentally 749 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: mentally exhausted. 750 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 3: Imagine like waking up and it's bucketing, and your dad's like, cool, 751 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 3: let's go, and you're just like, are you Kiddy's rat movies? 752 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 4: Yeah? 753 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 3: I want to get some popcorn and watch some movies. 754 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 755 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. My question is what sort of questions would you 756 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 3: ask yourself before you decide to. 757 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: Go all in on a goal? 758 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: M Interesting, The biggest thing is having you know the 759 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: clarity around that being your goal you want to go 760 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: in like all in, and also like remembering you can 761 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: always change your mind. Yeah, for sure, it's not set 762 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: in stone. And I truly believe that's like me doing 763 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 1: a six year law degree and then not being a lawyer. 764 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 3: Like that's a lot of hours, probably ten thousands, probably 765 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 3: getting close. 766 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 2: Literally getting close if we include high school. 767 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 768 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: And that's the thing is I would never regret that 769 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: because it's so on my journey of who I am 770 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: and I've developed so many skills for that. And also 771 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: there was times where I was so passionate about that thing. 772 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: It aabled me to be the person I am, so 773 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 1: I think also realizing that it's like you can't fuck 774 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: it up. 775 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so true. 776 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 3: I think I'd also ask myself how fulfilled I would 777 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 3: feel if I went all in on that thing after 778 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 3: I'd achieved it, and also if I'd be comfortable with 779 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: the sacrifices I'd have to make to go all in 780 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 3: on that thing, because you'd kind of be kidding yourself 781 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 3: if you think that you wouldn't be making some sacrifices, 782 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 3: like yes, you can have the duality and you can 783 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 3: have it all, but there's still be a few things 784 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 3: that fall away and really making sure that you're okay 785 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 3: with that. 786 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: I love that so much. That's a huge thing of 787 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: like what are you going to you know, sacrifice, And 788 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: I think that's even this is tying it back to 789 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: a weird point of I remember when I was, you know, postpartum, 790 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: and I got to like a year postpartum with IVY, 791 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: and I like felt like crap physically, and I kind 792 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: of just thought a year would go past and I 793 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: would just feel like myself. 794 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 2: And then I actually really looked at. 795 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 1: My life and I was like, I still eat like crap. 796 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: I still like I'm not putting in much effort into 797 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: going to gym and making the sacrifices, and I'm still 798 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: eating a lot of sugar. 799 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 2: And like, I got really. 800 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: Honest with myself because they're like, there was no sacrifices. 801 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: I was doing the same things and wanting a different result. 802 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is the definition of the sanity. 803 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: And then so what was really beautiful of that is 804 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: I got really honest and then I made some changes 805 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: which are quote unquote sacrifices, like getting up an hour earlier, 806 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: cutting out sugar, cutting out you know, certain foods for 807 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: my thyroid condition, not for any other reason, and certain things. 808 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm feeling so much better physically. But 809 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: it's so interesting because I was like, oh wow, I 810 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: hadn't even thought about the sacrifice sacrifices. Yeah, and that's 811 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: something now you look back, I'm like, thank god I 812 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: sacrifice those things because I'm feeling. 813 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: So much better. 814 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh I love. 815 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: That's like a really random point. All right, So to 816 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: finish a. 817 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 3: Tear, Yeah, I think everyone should use their story, the 818 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 3: Williams Sisters story as sort of food for thought when 819 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 3: it comes to what you're leaving behind and the path 820 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 3: you're carving out and if it benefits you in while 821 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 3: you're here in this world existential I love it, and 822 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 3: if it benefits people after you, and if that's a 823 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 3: priority of yours, asking yourself, what is the legacy you're 824 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 3: leaving behind for people or how do you want to 825 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 3: leave people? 826 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: And what are you like in your legacy? Like what 827 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: are your values? What are you currently making a priority 828 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: and do you want to change that? 829 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 2: I love that. Just some thought provoking, some. 830 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 3: Thought provoking questions, just some thought WOWO. 831 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 1: Silly gals too, silly gals asking you some fun questions. 832 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: It was so amazing hearing more about their story. You 833 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: told it so beautiful a tea. 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