1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf thanks to Joyce Main, Darwin 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: hans On and Stuart Highway Burro mat joining us on 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: the line right now to tell us a little bit 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: more about a new course which is set to get 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: underway and aimed at attracting and retaining tour guides in 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. On the line is the cdu VET 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: team leader for Tourism, Tim Francis. Good morning to you. 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: Tim, Katie, how are you? 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? Really well, great to have you on the show 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: and really pleasing to hear. I think that they're real. 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: There seems to be a real push from Charles Darwin 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: University at the moment to sort of grow our own 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: and retain territorians in the territory. And and that's what 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: this new tour Guide Ready course is all about, really, 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: isn't it. 16 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: It is we am VET VET training in particular, and 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: we've seen you which I be very reactive and work 18 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: their their industry and identify areas and things and needs 19 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: they have. And we met with the Tourism Central Australia 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: group a whole range of other tools guided in our 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: springs and asked them what they would want in a 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: tool guide and were designed a bespoke course around that 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: to basically try to fill that gap and so. 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: Tell us a bit more about this course and who 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: is maybe able to do it. 26 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: So it's really open to anyone. There are some underlying 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: conditions you have for meat which are mostly around the licensing. 28 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: But if you are physically fit, you love the outdoors, 29 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: you've got a bit of a bit of verb in 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: your personality and you love talking about the outdoors and 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: sharing sharing knowledge, then we would love to have anyone 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: come down to our springs and join the course. For 33 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: the five weeks we had we have been very lucky 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: to secure a large endorsement from Tourism and Tee especially 35 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: shout out to John d Maria and Nick Roe who 36 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: have basically made this course which will probably cost you 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: about seven thousand dollars if you walked off the street 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: to do it, and we're able to provide it free 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: to the applicantntil we get the limited number. We've got 40 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: about twelve spaces, so hopefully we can fill those seats. 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: And tell us I mean we've spoken to Tourism Central 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Australia at different times. We know that this issue with 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: the worker shortage is acute. How are things going in 44 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: Central Australia right now though, when you talk about the 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: tourism sector and the shortage of workers. 46 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,559 Speaker 2: So what we're really finding is that when the international 47 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: tourism sort of dropped off last year and between that 48 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: and the domestic market sort of firing up again, a 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: lot of their tool guides left the industry and we've 50 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: got other jobs and now there's really a very very 51 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: small pool for people to sort of come back and 52 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: refill those jobs. And the idea at the moment is 53 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: that by tracking people into to old Springs, if we 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: can do this and give them some training and give 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: them the skills and the licens thing and all the 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: things they need, they'll be read basically the end of 57 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: the call us to walk straight into jobs. 58 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: And tim How important is it really that you know 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: that you do have have like have people do this 60 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: course and actually get in there and fill those jobs. 61 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: Look, it's really important. Businesses are struggling to find find guides. 62 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: There are tool companies who are sharing tour guides because 63 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: there are just none on the ground. And we often 64 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: when before we had this course, a lot of the 65 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: companies had to hire people with no experience and then 66 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 2: to go through all the training themselves. And so this 67 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: is a way of us being able to sort of 68 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: get ahead of the curve. And we work very closely 69 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: with the tour operators. We're using their their itineries that 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: they we use, and we're putting it into the course itself. 71 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: They have come aboard and give it us sites stay 72 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: at and we will be doing tour tours through their 73 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: workshops and they'll get to almost have an interview prior 74 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: to the end of the course. That's how closely we're 75 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: sort of linking this in with the local industry. 76 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: It sounds like a really good thing to do and hopefully, 77 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, really helps to fill that gap and that 78 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: shortage that we've got at the moment. How many people 79 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: can actually take part, Like what's the you know, what's 80 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: the size of the intake. 81 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: So we've got twelve spots to this next course, which 82 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: starts in the ninth of August, runs through to the 83 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: tenth of September, and we will be taking them for 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks out into Ularu Parta Judah and 85 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: we do a couple of weeks of classroom stuff. We 86 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: do a lot of tools around the greater Our Springs 87 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: region looking at all the other types of tour attractions 88 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: as well, because these guys almost become little embassadors on 89 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: these tours and they need to be able to sort 90 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: of value add, you know, to the broader tourism economy 91 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: when they're on these tours and explain how they can 92 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: do other things post the tour. So there's twelve people 93 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 2: and we we've got a few people already in the course, 94 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: so they still bring for some more people. There's a 95 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: combination available in our Springs for the duration of the 96 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: course as well. So people are in DA one, we're 97 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: thinking they'd love to make a change and head down 98 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: to Our Springs become a tool guide down there. We 99 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: can actually house them throughout the at no cost throughout 100 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: the whole course as well. And as I said, you know, 101 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: thanks to tourism in Tea, they've really come to the 102 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: pay here and making this course an amazing opportunity for 103 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: people to change, change the life. So I'll get out 104 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: of boring one to five job and getting it get 105 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: in out doors. 106 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: Tim, do you reckon it's going to go far enough? 107 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: I mean, twelve doesn't sound like a huge number. I 108 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: know it's a start, but it doesn't sound like a 109 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: huge number, you know, is it going to go far enough? 110 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: Look at what we've been doing is we're running a 111 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: number of these courses, so we're trying to keep the 112 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: numbers low because we want to make these are intensive 113 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: courses five weeks and if we blow those numbers out 114 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: too big and you don't get the the you know, 115 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: the one on one train, which we really need to 116 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: make sure that this intensive courses is designed to sort 117 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: of provide with another one the other courses and will 118 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: be rolled out in Darwin hopefully if this is successful 119 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: in the in the s in Central Australia, and then 120 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: we'll be doing them repeating him again early next year. 121 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: Well, we know that, as I said, we've heard on 122 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: so many occasions from the tourism sector that that workforce 123 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: shortage is a real issue at the moment. And I 124 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: reckon if we're able to grow our own here in 125 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: the territory, we're able to develop territorians to get into 126 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: those jobs, hopefully, you know, hopefully it means that we're 127 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: not in this situation. 128 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: Again, that's right, And you know, if we can start 129 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: a program where we're constantly sort of feeding these new guys, 130 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: fully accredited, ready to rock and roll into these in 131 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: these businesses, it should hopefully really make it have a 132 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: big impact. 133 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: Well, Tim Francis, the cdu Vet team leader for tourism, 134 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: I appreciate you having a chat with us this morning. Mate. 135 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: Just very quickly though, if there is anyone out there 136 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: listening who's maybe keen to find out more, where should 137 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: they go to look? 138 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: And Martin Bowl my coordinator in our springs and his 139 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 2: mobile number is here for we. 140 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: Can either well we might even grab it from you 141 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: offare and if anybody calls through we can pass it. 142 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: On fantastic here, that'd be great. 143 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: Thank good on you, Tim, thanks mate of your time, 144 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: no worries, thank you. And that was cdu Vet team 145 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: leader there for tourism, Tim Francis, And yeah, I reckon 146 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: it's a really good idea if we can grow our 147 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: own here in the territory. We know that we've seen 148 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: a real issue over the last few months or over 149 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: the last eighteen months, no, not that far back, maybe 150 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: the last twelve months since COVID initially struck, and then 151 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: when things sort of got restarted and we saw that 152 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: we had tourists still here in the territory or coming 153 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: to the territory from interstate, but we really haven't had 154 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: the workforce in the tourism industry. So hopefully this can 155 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: go part of the way in terms of making sure 156 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: that we can grow our own ensuring that we do 157 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: have tour operators and guides and people in that sector 158 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: to be able to keep it moving, because as I said, 159 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: it's been something that has been raised with us with 160 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: both Tourism Top End also Tourism Central Australia. Daniel Rochford 161 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: has told us quite some time back about the acute 162 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: issue it was and said that you know, they were 163 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: having a real problem in terms of filling some of 164 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: those jobs. So with these tour guides, let's hope that 165 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: it makes a difference