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Speaker 1: Alice Springs is going to pause this morning as territorians

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Speaker 1: honor Ted Egan Ao his life, his legacy and his

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Speaker 1: enormous impact on the Northern Territory. And joining me now

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Speaker 1: ahead of that memorial is Wayne Crafty. Craft Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you, Crafty.

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Speaker 2: Big, good morning to you and your listeners in the

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Speaker 2: top end.

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Speaker 1: Lovely to have you on the show.

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Speaker 2: Now, Crafty's please pleasure on a thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Mate, Well, you know we are really pleased to have

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Speaker 1: you on. I know that you're going to be speaking,

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Speaker 1: as I understand it at Ted's memorial today. You knew

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Speaker 1: him for more than fifty years. You're going to be

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Speaker 1: delifering one of today's eulogies.

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Speaker 2: I've been good nurser who's Ted's one for wife has

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Speaker 2: given me a time limit, understandably, so I've had to reduce.

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Speaker 2: Fifty years is about four or five minutes. So any

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Speaker 2: about a great great speakers around me. So it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a very fulfilling morning. I was down there

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Speaker 2: yesterday at the conventions and just seeking out and set up,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to be an amazing event to farewell

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Speaker 2: with absolutely sensational human being. He's affected so many people's

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Speaker 2: lives in the most positive way in a black white grindle.

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Speaker 2: He was an all encomnpassing man and privileged for me

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Speaker 2: to spend quality time with them over my journey.

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Speaker 1: A true territory in indeed crafty. What was it about

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Speaker 1: Ted that made people gravitate to him?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's many things. His humility number one,

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Speaker 2: his knowledge is hungered to embrace people and their their passions,

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Speaker 2: their knowledge, their history, their backgrounds, and people just gravitating

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Speaker 2: them because it was just a humble, beautiful soul had

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Speaker 2: that inate ability to convert those conversations and many areas

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Speaker 2: into song. And we agree with some of the boys

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Speaker 2: that Dalton Brothers are in sound from La and Catherine,

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Speaker 2: and so we had a bit of a shown after

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Speaker 2: ourselves late yeesday afternoon in preparation for the after State

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Speaker 2: States their will journey. We're going to be singing quite

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Speaker 2: a few of said songs, not to the quality that

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Speaker 2: Ted could put together. But look Ted was just an

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Speaker 2: amazing man. And the thing that I noticed all the

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Speaker 2: way through was his generosity, not only his generosity of spirit,

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Speaker 2: but a generosity of money. Was forever you know, offering

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Speaker 2: people discreetly a hand out, a hand out here, and

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Speaker 2: a hand out there if he felt that he they

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Speaker 2: needed it. And you know, so he hasn't passed on

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Speaker 2: and supporter, but financially had not been so generous, I

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Speaker 2: think there would be a little bit of book capital

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Speaker 2: and to her you did, that's the way is there,

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Speaker 2: and that's that's the mark of the man. Just and

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Speaker 2: he remembered people's names through a fault. He would remember

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Speaker 2: them right to them very end. And that's an amazing

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Speaker 2: trait for anyone. I mean I started losing that probably

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Speaker 2: before even started. Yeah, but amazingly would remember people's names

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Speaker 2: and going back to you know, last week but also

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Speaker 2: thirty forty fifty years ago, and what an unbelievable you

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Speaker 2: know tape to have to take you through your life.

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Speaker 1: But it sounds like he's got a few lasting legacies

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Speaker 1: that that are going to you know, to stay to stick.

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Speaker 1: What would you say, what do you think he's you know,

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Speaker 1: his most important legacy is that he's leaving.

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Speaker 2: Well, apart from fantastic memories, is h you know, his

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Speaker 2: thoughts and burns about celebrating Foundation Day is probably the

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Speaker 2: one that's going to stand out and may become an

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Speaker 2: enduring legacy. To ten, a lot of work to be done,

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Speaker 2: but in little of our recognition and celebrations of Australia

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Speaker 2: Day on the center twenty six. I forget the date

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Speaker 2: of the Foundation Day, but it's when Matthew Flinders I

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Speaker 2: think eighteen thirty I do there about the second navigated

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Speaker 2: and that the whole of Australia and including Tasmania. It's

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Speaker 2: the first time that had ever been done. And he

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Speaker 2: did that with an original man by the name of

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Speaker 2: Bungaree from Sydney. He traveled with them all the way

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Speaker 2: around and acted as a liaison just by suddenly who's

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Speaker 2: probably because of the different Aboriginal dialects, And that's in

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Speaker 2: case in Australian's history, but it hasn't yet been elevated

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Speaker 2: there is a push, you know, myself included, to pursue

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Speaker 2: that day as potentially an alternative to Australia. They dove

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Speaker 1: What an insightful discussion to have, Crafty, What date was that?

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Speaker 1: Do you happen to know after Tommy.

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Speaker 2: Look I haven't. Yeah, yeah, please do. But look it

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Speaker 2: makes perfect sense. I mean I'm in Australia. I recognize

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Speaker 2: that I respected, I stand up and I've seen the

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Speaker 2: national anthem. But having said that, the idea of a

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Speaker 2: recognizing Foundation Day as opposed to Australia they really resonates

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Speaker 2: with me and all those other people that have reflected

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Speaker 1: History, and that was something that Ted wanted.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and he's put put a song together with Ners

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Speaker 2: and others, a handful of the great local musos and

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Speaker 2: Nicholas Williams from Hermannsburg is part of it and he

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Speaker 2: in the video clip he plays a part of Bungaye

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Speaker 2: and there's always a cat. The cat was Matthew Flinder's

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Speaker 2: cat and so that plays. The cat plays an important

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Speaker 2: role in the song. The locals bought with Ted's direction.

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Speaker 2: Ted Norris of course being very much involved in putting

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Speaker 2: it together. So just google it and then you'll be

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Speaker 2: able to hear the soundtrack. Yeah, we'll make.

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Speaker 1: Sure we do crafty and we'll certainly continue that discussion

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Speaker 1: as well. I reckon crafty before I let you go.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it goes without saying he's going to be

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Speaker 1: sorely missed by those closest to him, his wife and

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Speaker 1: children and grand and great grandchildren. What does today mean

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Speaker 1: to them for him to be honored with a state memorial?

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Speaker 2: Look at I mean, I've caught up with a couple

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Speaker 2: of the kids in the last twenty four hours. They're

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Speaker 2: not kids anymore, of course, my vim is but well

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Speaker 2: that humble guide although excited at the same time. It's

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Speaker 2: going to be hugely big day mentally for them. But

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Speaker 2: there'll be big celebrations after and the event itself is

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Speaker 2: coming together. There's going to be lots of wonderful music.

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Speaker 2: I believe the Teelee ladies who are there's a mob

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Speaker 2: from Teelee flying down and they're going to be dancing.

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Speaker 2: Local Ben Blood would are reforming for a song. Look,

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Speaker 2: there's so many other musos have been brought together by

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Speaker 2: Narris who be part of the farewell process today. So

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Speaker 2: it's going to be sensational and so Ted's family will

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Speaker 2: be deeply honored by I think everything that today is

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Speaker 2: all about. I'm sure they will be.

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Speaker 1: How wonderful crafty? Before I let you go, mate, what

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Speaker 1: type of friend was Ted?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Look, it doesn't come any better. We communicated very

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Speaker 2: very regularly. We enjoyed a beer together and a red wine.

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Speaker 2: Of course we love their test cricket and o Asie rules.

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Speaker 2: So when he was in town and I was in sand,

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Speaker 2: we'd always get together journey at his place. He was

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Speaker 2: everything to me and I've miss him already, but it

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Speaker 2: will be my memories forever. And I wake up with

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Speaker 2: the start lived one morning, the three days ago, and

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Speaker 2: there he was alive and will and young and fit

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Speaker 2: talking to me, and I thought, he hasn't left, but

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Speaker 2: he hasn't let me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, that's good, that's great.

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Speaker 2: They look an amazing man. And I can't but with

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Speaker 2: found me to, you know, to express the gratitude that

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Speaker 2: I've had for him, for his prindship Tony, over that journey.

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Speaker 2: He taught me so much about people and history and

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Speaker 2: you and amen, and I just I've just been playing

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Speaker 2: Ted songs all morning so far, just Sai's so easy

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Speaker 2: to hit Spotify and suggest for a range of different

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Speaker 2: songs and just reflect daytime, a wonderful life.

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Speaker 1: How beautiful crafty. It is lovely to speak to you

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Speaker 1: this morning, and I tell you what you know what

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Speaker 1: an honor to really hear more about Ted Eagan this morning,

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Speaker 1: on this incredibly important and special day. I know it'll

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Speaker 1: be tough for you and his family and friends, but

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Speaker 1: no doubt an incredible celebration of an absolutely outstanding territorian.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, no worries at all, Thank you,