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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Doug.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning Katie and listeners. Thanks for having me

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Speaker 2: on the radio. Doug.

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Speaker 1: As I said yesterday, we caught up with one of

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Speaker 1: site which has been ear marked for this Telstra tower. Firstly,

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Speaker 1: can you talk us through exactly where it is.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've met with quite a few of them and

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Speaker 2: I certainly understand their concerns. And it is on Bronze

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Speaker 3: One of those sites is owned owned by Lithfield Council

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Speaker 3: and with Lifts World Council in good faith and I

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Speaker 2: The lease have least some land for culture in order

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Speaker 1: All right, So Doug, why exactly is this location being chosen?

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Speaker 1: Is it because it's a Litchfield Council land.

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Speaker 2: I it's like when you go camping, Katie, why why

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Speaker 2: We may have got we may have got we may have.

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Speaker 2: I accept that, but and we'll do our best to

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Speaker 1: Have a couple of but surely, surely the land where

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Speaker 2: I would think, uh, yes, that would be right. But

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like it's not a done a done

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Speaker 2: Well, it probably well, well hopefully not. But it's out

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Speaker 1: But so there are four potential locations. Obviously, this one

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Speaker 1: Literally, I suppose a lot of people listening this morning,

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Speaker 1: Doug are going to be thinking to themselves, well, that's

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Speaker 2: Well, we're working hard behind the scenes to try and

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Speaker 2: And we're working behind the scenes. And I mean I've

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Speaker 2: Well, I said that earlier in the interview, that it

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Speaker 1: So it does seem as though, you know, like from

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Speaker 2: Well, well Tels has picked this location. They might they

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Speaker 2: As I said, we've done this in good faith to

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Speaker 2: Yes, as I'm sorry, No, I'm not satisfied with the

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Speaker 2: And I and I do believe that these comments are valid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And look, obviously it's got to go through that

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Speaker 1: obviously Telstra has to communicate with those people. Doug. I mean, really, though,

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Speaker 2: No, not personally, I don't believe so, But I do

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, Doug, we really actually before I let

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Speaker 2: Yes, the contractor and the Senior Staff council are in

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Speaker 1: Well, Doug, I appreciate your time this morning. Let's see

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Speaker 1: Like I said, we've had a lot of people in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and and and and I just want to

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Speaker 2: there are other Tolster towers that have been put on

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Speaker 2: And and and yep, so yep, so we're out there

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Speaker 1: Doug, we will no doubt talk to you again very

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