1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: It is time for the big issues Bradley brought to 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: you by Kolano Community Association and joining us in the 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: studio this morning. 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: Well, we've got Dave Tol' well, I'm going to mention. 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: These little cuties in just a moment, don't Good morning 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: to you. And we've also got Damian Hale, Good morning 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: to you. 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 3: Good morning, well pop we call him. 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: And we've got the two two little cuties in the studio. 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: We've got Lily and Indy here with their pop a ka, 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: Damian Hale. And it's gonna really you two boys are 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: going to have to behave yourselves today. 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 4: I'm gonna put We're going to watch his language. 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 5: They're going to do a call out. 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: We'll wait till the end. They'll warm up. 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: I reckon as we get talking for a little while. 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 1: They are gorgeous, gorgeous girls. 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 5: In the labor party, baby labor. 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: That's aware of that for them quick and. 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 5: Seven? Did you get there? 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: Did you get their parents' approval or did you just 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: morse them here? 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 4: And it's true. I think if you're not a socialist 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: at twenty one, you don't have a heart. If you're 25 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: still one at thirty, you don't have a brain. 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: You've never heard that. 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 4: Oh, but you know it's nothing truer in life. 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 5: Tolly started early again today, ready to. 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: Get with getting the little kids a bit socialized in 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 4: the early age. 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what I thought of both of 32 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: you blogs on Friday afternoon when I'd heard that Gladys 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: spur of Jicklt had resigned. 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: Obviously, and we do know that Dominic Perrete. 35 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: Is going to be sworn in as the New South 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: Wales Premier after being elected Leader of the New South Wales. 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: Liberals this morning. 38 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: He defeated the Planning Minister Rob Stokes in a party 39 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: room ballot thirty nine votes to Stewart has been elected 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: unopposed as Deputy leader. The former Treasurer is going to 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: become the state's youngest ever premier at thirty nine years old, 42 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: and takes the reins obviously from Gladys Burre rigically and 43 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: following her shock resignation on Friday. It's been an interesting 44 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: few days, hasn't it for New South Wales. 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 5: It is the forty sixth premier. 46 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: You wouldn't go and get a house loan on the 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: on the fact that you've just become premier of New 48 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: South Wales. 49 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 5: They go through a few they have. 50 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I've known Mike been As as a treasurer. 51 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: I've known Gladys Beerygiclian as a treasurer, and I've known 52 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 4: Dominic Perrete as the treasurer. And they're all treasurers in 53 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: my time. Yeah right, It's been a while since I've 54 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 4: been treasurer. 55 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 5: They all work with Dave and. 56 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: Gone through the ranks. 57 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 5: We've gone. 58 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: It's interesting though, isn't it. Obviously with the you know, 59 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: with this IK investigation. So Gladys is you know, she 60 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: stood down because she is going to be the subject 61 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: of this KAK inquiry public hearings. I believe we are 62 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: going to kick off fairly soon and she just felt 63 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: as though, you know, I needed to give give clear 64 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: air in terms of whoever takes over with the you know, 65 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: in terms of juggling the COVID situation as well. 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: It's interesting stuff. 67 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: I know that she's not the only New South Wales 68 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: premiere to. 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: To have stood down. 70 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: With a line, you know, And it's interesting, you know, 71 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: at this point in time, everyone's talking about a federal ICAQ. 72 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: You know, we need a federal ICAC and you sit 73 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 4: there and you say, we'll have a look around the 74 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 4: States and see how well these i cacks are doing. 75 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 4: I mean in Queensland they've sort of been investigating themselves 76 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 4: for quite some time. Northern Territory course, the i CAQ 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: is investigating itself now, you know, and everywhere you look 78 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: there's just money being burnt, like there's no tomorrow on 79 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: lawyers and they actually don't produce much at all. I mean, 80 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: Harley's a great fan of the local one. I know. 81 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: I just think I think we might have got the 82 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 3: commissioner wrong at the stuff because I think the commissioner 83 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: policy the policy wrong. They got caught up in the 84 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: politics of the IKAK rather than looking at the stuff 85 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: that really I was interested in is you know, I 86 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: wanted to know where people have got ill gotten gains, 87 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: not blues between Terry Mills and. 88 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 5: Speaker or you know that stuff's irrelevant to me. 89 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: Or the private dealings of private life of members and 90 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: who people put in their offices when you're looking to 91 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: employ people that you can trust. They're not the issues 92 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: that I was thinking that the IKAK would uncover. 93 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: I gues Lattis's case at the moment in New South Wales. 94 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: You know we're talking about like we are talking about grants, aren't. 95 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: We, So you know, some money sort of you know, micrans. 96 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 4: To the boyfriend, Yeah, to the boyfriend's electric Yeah. 97 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: So Paul Barreling and then a whole other other element 98 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: of it when you when you then talk. 99 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 4: At she's been humiliated and resigned from the parliament barring 100 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 4: barrio'farrell was humiliated and resigned from the parliament at the 101 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: end of it all, and it'll be interesting to see, 102 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 4: you know, you can't preempt what will come out with 103 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 4: the Gladdys stuff. But the end of most of it, 104 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: there's never been many charges laid. I mean in the 105 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 4: Northern territory, you sort of look at all the cases 106 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 4: that we've had with our i Kaki. How many charges 107 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 4: have we seen laid. Everyone's running around saying everyone's corrupt, 108 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: But what are these? You know, the ikak actually doesn't 109 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: charge anyone. They pass their information onto the police who 110 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 4: do that. But you know, I think in New South Wales, 111 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 4: I've only cut picked up the Eddie Abaden, that other 112 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: joker who just we're going to be done by police anyhow. 113 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 4: And you sort of sit there and go, what value 114 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: as the IKAC actually added, apart from creating a whole 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: lot of hysteria, ungrounded hysteria. 116 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: I have to say, do you reckon that she should 117 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: have stood down Gladys shelf. 118 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, it's no admission of 119 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 4: guilt that she stood down and obviously. 120 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: Set the standard, didn't she? She said if you were 121 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: getting investigated. 122 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 4: Barrier Farrell probably set the standard when he stepped down 123 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 4: a bottle of wine. At clearing a bottle of wine. 124 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: How do you reckon? 125 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: Look, do you reckon things are going to change to 126 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: some degree or how do you think it's all going 127 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: to play out? Now? When you look at the way 128 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: New South Wales has been talking about opening the borders 129 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: and and some some different things in terms of the 130 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: COVID management, they've probably been sort of most well aligned 131 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: with the Prime Minister in terms of his plans moving forwards. 132 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 4: Any problems with Dominic Paraite line up with the Prime Minister. 133 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: He's a bit of an eating lockdown type of guy, 134 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: and you maybe doing everything he possibly can to avoid 135 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: for the lockdowns. And I think he's committed to the 136 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: to the path out of lockdowns that has previously been 137 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: set by Gladys and Scott Morrison. 138 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 5: With the IKAK. 139 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: Just on being an elected official myself, even though it's 140 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: at at the council level. You're just very mindful all 141 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: the time of the conversations you're having the people that 142 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: reach out and want to meet you, or they want 143 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: to talk to you about an issue that they've got 144 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: an opportunity, and anything around commercial stuff, anything around the 145 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: possibility of pitching to counsel or you know, looking to 146 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: get a commercial gain out of an interaction with counsel 147 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: or to discuss something along those lines. I'm just very 148 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: mindful of handballing it straight to our CEO because you 149 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: know nowadays because you've got the EYEKAK and back with 150 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: Dave and I were in politics before any of this, 151 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: and you'd quite regularly meet with businessmen or set up 152 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: an opportunity for people that had a great idea for 153 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: you know, to employ people in the territory and to 154 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: attract people to the territory and also make a financial 155 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: gain for themselves, and they'd approach you for assistance or 156 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: to be able to push it in the right direction 157 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: or champion a good cause for them. But nowadays you're 158 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: just very reluctant to be involved at all, and I 159 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: just point blank refused to meet with people and push 160 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: them to see. 161 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 4: My concern is that these politics involved in all of 162 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: these things all the time, you know, and they you know, 163 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: there's a political stand there, you know, coalition and mainly 164 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 4: not particularly supportive of IKS Labor and the Greens are 165 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 4: they love them, you know. So there's a policy differentiation 166 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: there now and that well there has been for some time. 167 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: And I just sort of think of my own circums. 168 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: You know. When we finished government up here, Labor put 169 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 4: in place there political Donations Inquiry, which was basically they 170 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 4: brought up just as Mansfield to hen all that you 171 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 4: might recall. It was, oh, we're going to root out 172 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: all this corruption that happened, you know with Foundation fifty 173 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 4: one and all of that sort of stuff. Now, that 174 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 4: inquiry took two years. And when you get the letter 175 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: in the mile, it says you've got a front up 176 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 4: and you're a suspect, and you know you've been a lead. 177 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what your heart ends up in your throat. Well, 178 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 4: you sit there and you think, what the body hell 179 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 4: you know, and then you go and give all your 180 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 4: evidence and you know, you work with that inquiry and 181 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: the end of it, they come out and they say, oh, 182 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: we couldn't find any any hint of corruption. But you know, 183 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 4: there clearly was a perception. And you go, well, and 184 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: you just sit there and you think a perception. Now, 185 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: who creates a perception. It certainly wasn't me that created 186 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: any perception. But there was a whole heap of police 187 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: players in there. Every time you that you approved a 188 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: pro check, everybody say, oh, you're in the pocket of 189 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: big business. He said, oh, there's got to be a 190 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: corruption inquiry, got to be corruption inquiry. And next thing 191 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: you know, there is a corruption inquiry and everyone says, 192 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: oh yeah, but there was this perception. 193 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: Well, and it's a tough one because obviously you've got 194 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: to make sure that the right thing is happening. We've 195 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: got to make sure that nothing, you know, nothing. 196 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: It's disgraceful, but you sit there and you look. I know, 197 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: you know, I get on a bit of social media 198 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 4: and that I see the comments that come out about 199 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 4: the federal ikak, Yeah, it's all about us. Gome has 200 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: got to go to jail, and and and Christian Porter's 201 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 4: got to go to jail. And Barnaby Joyce has got 202 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: to go to jail, and therefore we need an i CAAK, 203 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 4: you know, our federal IYICAC. Well, you sit there and 204 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: you think all these people have assumed that someone's guilty 205 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: before there's an't been any discussion whatsoever, and it's not 206 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: like there's not a lot of bodies out there already 207 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 4: doing this work. Well, we've got. 208 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what you know, we will move 209 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: along because there is plenty to discuss this morning. I'm 210 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: very keen to I know we've been talking at length 211 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, and we spoke about 212 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: this briefly last week as well, about our health system 213 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: being under enormous stress. 214 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: At the moment. 215 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: We talked yesterday to the head of the AMA, doctor 216 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: Robert Parker, about the need to bring some workers across 217 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: from overseas for our health system, because we are in 218 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: a situation where we need more doctors, we need more 219 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: people working in the in the health system. We also 220 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: heard from Cath Hatcher last week that we're at that 221 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: crisis point that we need between fifty two one hundred 222 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: nurses coming across. We caught up with John Patterson from 223 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: Amsant just a little bit earlier this morning. He said 224 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: even out in our remotion regional communities right now that 225 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: we need more staff, more allied health workers, you. 226 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: Know, right now. 227 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: Though there doesn't seem to be a really clear plan. Obviously, 228 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: the Health Minister was on the show this morning and 229 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: wasn't pain to say. 230 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: The thing is, I don't think most people understand the 231 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 4: kom Walth is paying half for the health bill for 232 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 4: the COVID stuff right the states pick up the other half. 233 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: So this is basically new money that's coming into state 234 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 4: and territory governments right for as in how it spreads 235 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: that you know, all of the works that's happening in 236 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 4: the other states and that sort of stuff. The Commonwealth 237 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: is funding half the bill. Now, state government's got no 238 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: dramas at all spending that money. But at the end 239 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: of the day, they don't have people there to do 240 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 4: the work. And if you have a look, it's not 241 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 4: the Northern Territory that's just in health crisis everywhere. It's 242 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 4: around the country. And the reason being is because they've 243 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 4: gone crazy spending money on health and they've got no 244 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: professionals there to do the job. 245 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: But the issue we've. 246 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: Got at the moment, Like obviously out at Howard Springs 247 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: is one thing, but the issue we've got at the 248 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: moment is. 249 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: Our hospitals as well. 250 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: You know, out at the Palmerston Hospital, the emergency ward, 251 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: the Health Minister said this morning that it is back 252 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: at that twenty four bid operational capacity for the emergency ward. 253 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,239 Speaker 1: But you know, we are hearing from our emergency nurses 254 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: amongst us that they're understaffed and that something needs to 255 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: be done and we do need those additional staff bring in. 256 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: Way. For example, they're offering eight thousand dollars to bring staff. 257 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: From the likes of London get them across and they've 258 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: got a really clear plan in terms of exactly how 259 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: many we need. The Health Minister this morning said between 260 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: fifty and seventy and didn't say what initiatives they've got 261 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: to actually try and bring people across. 262 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: How said fifty, He did remote communities. So I go 263 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: to remote communities a lot. I'm going to WARRM Younger 264 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: tomorrow and there's shortages and out there for probably the 265 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 3: people that have got the most chronic health in Australia, 266 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: a shortage of people and professionals out there and bringing 267 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: people from overseas good And I've got no problem with that. 268 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: But you know, how do we incentivize people in Australia 269 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: and Australian people that are living here to go into. 270 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 5: The health sector. It's to work in that area. 271 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: It's not a lack of me in the system. Let 272 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: me tell you, it's not a lack of money. A 273 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 4: third of the territory budget goes into our health system. 274 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 4: As I say, the FEDS are pouring money into health 275 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 4: at the moment with COVID, So it's not a lack 276 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 4: of money. It's actually a lack of people on the ground. Katie. 277 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 4: Can I just go off on a bit of a 278 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 4: tangent in the moment. 279 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: It depends how far you go. 280 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 4: Well, I read in today's I read in today's newspaper 281 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: that CDU wants to have a stand alone medical school. Now, 282 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not really that much of a tangent 283 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: because all of this is happening at the moment with 284 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 4: what's going on with COVID, and I've got to say 285 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 4: I am deeply concerned about CDU's plans. Seriously concerned because 286 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: if you read between the lines, what they're aiming to 287 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 4: do is get rid of Flinders University because we do 288 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: have a medical school here. It is operating and it 289 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: has been operating for some time. Flinders has had a 290 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: relationship with the Northern Territory now for in excess of 291 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 4: twenty years, and. 292 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 5: That Mediga I didn't well, I'm telling you, I'm telling you. 293 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: I spoke to Scott on the show yesterday and he 294 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: said that, you know, no, it wasn't about pushing him. 295 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: Out, like hell, it's all about pushing Flinders out because 296 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: the reality is Flinder's is the one that's applied for 297 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: extra places and that sort of stuff. Flinders are very 298 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: deep in the Northern Territory and you know, in some 299 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: regards the CDU hasn't had quite a lot to do 300 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: with this medical school and over time, you know, for 301 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: a long time they've it's sort of been out of side, 302 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: out of mind as far as the people who run 303 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 4: the university are concerned, because basically Flinda steps in and 304 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: fills the gaps. What's happening now though, is they've decided, 305 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 4: oh no, no, this is a this is a money 306 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: making opportunity for CDU. C to you of course, as 307 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: we know, is going broke and they're about to go 308 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: massively broke when this four hundred fifty million dollar in 309 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: a city campus is constructed. I mean there's no way 310 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 4: known that they can possibly pay for that, and now 311 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 4: they're going to start cannibalizing our medical strate. 312 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: Didn't get the. 313 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 4: Impression desperately wanting to get rid of Flinders, right, and 314 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: it's an absolute disgrace. Flinders are so screwed into the 315 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 4: Northern Territory. They have been for twenty years. It's not 316 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 4: just at the university where this is happening. The university 317 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: seems to think that they're sort of unique. But the 318 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 4: hospital or the super clinic at Palms and I think 319 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: it might have been one of your initiatives. Highly Yeah, 320 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 4: that's CDU and Flinders. Flinders are all over the health 321 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 4: system right across the territory, particularly in remote health and 322 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: indigenous health. They do a lot of research in those areas. 323 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: And what's being proposed by c to you is nothing 324 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: more than empire building. It's nothing more than empire building. 325 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: Oh look the article I didn't sort of make it. 326 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 3: I didn't read into it as sinister as what they've did. 327 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 3: But I do think that you know, the Vice Chounce 328 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 3: I made it pretty clear that you know, they're interested 329 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: in having their own medical school through CDU. And look, 330 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: their universities are competitive by nature. Now they're in a 331 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 3: competitive market and they try to attract people and especially 332 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 3: you know our to our north is where the great 333 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: opportunities are for c DOU and so no doubt they're 334 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 3: probably looking to expand their footprint and their corporate footprint 335 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: to make money. 336 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 5: There's no doubt about that. But they're not alone in that. 337 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 5: There's universities are doing it everywhere. It's just not here. 338 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 5: It's just not CDU that are doing it. All universities. 339 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 4: Like I say, the thing is that Flinders have been 340 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 4: an essential partner for the Northern Territory health system for 341 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 4: twenty years now. And LI said, I got to be 342 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: honest with you, this is a backdoor way of getting 343 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 4: rid of fl in this university, out of our medical 344 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 4: school here. 345 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 5: In been great. 346 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: And remember Barney Glover was the vice chancellor back then, 347 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: and there was chief and I went out for the 348 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 3: sod turn. 349 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 5: It's quite funny. 350 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 3: Actually I missed the photo opportunity because a lady fainted 351 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: during the during the Warren Snowden speech. 352 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 5: So I'm there, surprised she was awake in where the faint. 353 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: Giving her some You've got to be awake to faint. 354 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 4: And then. 355 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: I got back to my office and the officers blowing 356 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: up at me saying, Heyle, you miss the photo. I 357 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: missed the photo because we were attending to the lady 358 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: who had fallen over and it was Barney and I 359 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 3: think Convat's Carlos, Hendo and Warren were turning the first 360 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 3: sod for the would ended up being the Flinders. 361 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: Really missed the photo. 362 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 5: I missed the photo. 363 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to take a very short break. You 364 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: are listening to Mix one O four point nine is 365 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: three sixty. It is the Big Issues Bradley, brought to 366 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: you by Kolano Community Association. Well, it is just six 367 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: minutes away from eleven clock. We're fast running out of 368 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: time this morning. But the big fellas are in here 369 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: with me this morning. 370 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 4: Because you talk too much, Coatie timeone else gets learning. 371 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: I've been drawing pictures with the girls in the corner 372 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: as well. I was going to say at halftime, but 373 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean during this the. 374 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: Only one in this room lost his marbles to these kids. 375 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 4: You and Granddady certainly. 376 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: Looking after the girls remotely. 377 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 5: When day she was talking, I looked over at Indian. 378 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 5: She was rolling the rice. She already knows. 379 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: She's already on. 380 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 4: She gets older and matures. That's what I'm saying. 381 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: Very quickly because we're a fast running out of time. 382 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: But nine News is reporting today that Indonesia has plans 383 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: to reopen the airport in the resort island of Bali 384 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: for international flights on October fourteen, after closing it for 385 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: more than a year because of the COVID nineteen pandemic. 386 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: So the coordinating marriag Time, Affairs and Investment minister, whose 387 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: name I can't pronounce, said on Monday that the airport 388 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: will open to international flights as long as it fulfilled 389 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: requirements to quarantine and testing. So international arrivals must show 390 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: proof of hotel bookings for mandatory eight day quarantine. So 391 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: they've said that they're open to several countries including South Korea, China, Japan, 392 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: United Arab Emirates. 393 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: And New Zealand. There you go, not US at this 394 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: point in time. 395 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: But we know that Indonesia is the world's fourth most 396 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: populous country and recorded more than four point two million 397 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: COVID cases with one hundred and forty two thousand deaths, 398 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: but infections have decreased in the last few weeks after 399 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: peaking in mid July. 400 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: It's an interesting move and they obviously need it. 401 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 4: Don't pronounce his was it Wayanne or. 402 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: Come on now it is Minister Luhat Binsar Panjatan. 403 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: That's a great effort by me. 404 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, the. 405 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 5: Crab louis, what do we reckon? 406 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: You'd be on the first light, wouldn't you. 407 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they'd be a hot spot. 408 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: So you have to go. 409 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 3: You go to Barley for two weeks and then back 410 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 3: to how it springs for two weeks. So you take 411 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: your four weeks and you will leave. 412 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 4: Wait until I don't know, October fifteen. That's sort of 413 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 4: starting to line up pretty well with wedness together will open. 414 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: Up well, Yeah, but not I don't think waiting my nine. 415 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 4: And Michael Gunners surely wouldn't break ranks. 416 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 5: Now Singapore was shutting down. 417 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 3: I don't know what did Singapore get to eighty percent vaccinations. 418 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 4: And thirty percent when they opened up and they're satting 419 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: at ninety percent now. Yeah, they opened up in March. 420 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 5: I had three thousand new infections two days ago. 421 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, looks to get to Barlie Harley. The point is 422 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 4: since March they haven't been keeping records on who's infected. 423 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 4: They treat it like any other. 424 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: Sapore. 425 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 4: Singapore they treat. 426 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 5: Well, they're not published three thousand. 427 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 4: What fake news you've been reading, because back in March 428 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: they said that was it. That's the end of the 429 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 4: publishing of any statistics and that sort of stuff. 430 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 5: Two days ago. I'm pretty sure it's on nine and they. 431 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 4: May have well about three thousand people over there. They're infected, 432 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: but they don't care. There aren't there. 433 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: They're trading overseas workers going into Singapore as well. 434 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 4: Big time. 435 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: Look, we've actually run out of time. That's it for us. 436 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: This morning. 437 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 5: Maybe that week. 438 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 3: Have that luncheon that you've been promising for a decade. 439 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: It's been a it's coming up ten years. We'll have 440 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 3: to have an anniversary in the first time. 441 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 4: One hundred dollars return air fees. But those days they 442 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: will be honest, I tell you what. It will be 443 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: a big thing for Darwin people because there's a number 444 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 4: of people in the turf You've got, You've got into 445 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 4: sin Bali who shared places here and if it's. 446 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: Going to depend on whether you can't, whether you've got 447 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: to be in quarantine, like you said, for two weeks, 448 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: pleasure over there for quite an extended period of time. 449 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: It would be you know, if you're coming back double Jab, 450 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 4: you don't get quarantined. 451 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: No, no, no, you still have to quarantine, particularly for 452 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: us here in Darwin. 453 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: We'll find out more, we'll find out. We will leave 454 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: it there. Tamie and Hale. Good to have you both 455 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: in the studio this morning. Thank you so much for 456 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 2: your time. 457 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: Event again very soon you are listening to Mix one 458 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: oh four point nine is three sixty. 459 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: That was the big issues