1 00:00:10,204 --> 00:00:13,484 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts Here more Gold one on one point 2 00:00:13,524 --> 00:00:15,204 Speaker 1: seven podcasts. 3 00:00:14,604 --> 00:00:30,364 Speaker 2: Playlists and listen live on the Free iHeart app. It's 4 00:00:30,404 --> 00:00:36,843 Speaker 2: Josias Astral on the Cutting room Floyd today. What have 5 00:00:36,884 --> 00:00:37,244 Speaker 2: we got? 6 00:00:38,043 --> 00:00:42,004 Speaker 1: We all know? The album cover for Nirvana's classic album 7 00:00:42,124 --> 00:00:43,884 Speaker 1: Nevermind Yep from Memory. 8 00:00:43,964 --> 00:00:46,364 Speaker 2: What's on it? A little baby chasing the dollar in 9 00:00:46,404 --> 00:00:47,084 Speaker 2: a swimming pool. 10 00:00:47,124 --> 00:00:49,524 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, little nudy baby, Little nudy baby. The 11 00:00:49,524 --> 00:00:52,644 Speaker 1: man who was that nudy baby? His name is Spencer Eldon. 12 00:00:52,884 --> 00:00:55,724 Speaker 1: He was four months old at the time. He's swimming 13 00:00:55,764 --> 00:00:59,044 Speaker 1: naked underwater in nineteen ninety one. It's been a very famous, 14 00:00:59,124 --> 00:01:01,924 Speaker 1: as you say, album cover. He has sued the rock 15 00:01:01,964 --> 00:01:05,044 Speaker 1: band Now a couple of times and sued the photographer. 16 00:01:05,484 --> 00:01:08,284 Speaker 1: He has said, and this started in twenty twenty one 17 00:01:08,324 --> 00:01:11,964 Speaker 1: in a laws that his identity and name were forever 18 00:01:12,084 --> 00:01:16,044 Speaker 1: tied to the commercial sexual exploitation that he experienced as 19 00:01:16,084 --> 00:01:20,604 Speaker 1: a minor, which has been distributed and sold worldwide. This 20 00:01:20,764 --> 00:01:23,964 Speaker 1: was dismissed in twenty twenty two because he had submitted 21 00:01:24,004 --> 00:01:27,163 Speaker 1: it after a ten year limit for filing a civil case. 22 00:01:28,044 --> 00:01:30,844 Speaker 1: But he has brought the case again and appeals court 23 00:01:30,884 --> 00:01:33,244 Speaker 1: overturned that decision allowing him to refile. 24 00:01:33,444 --> 00:01:35,204 Speaker 2: Didn't he have a reenactment of it all? 25 00:01:35,284 --> 00:01:35,444 Speaker 1: That? 26 00:01:35,964 --> 00:01:37,124 Speaker 2: Wasn't there a reenactment? 27 00:01:37,404 --> 00:01:40,084 Speaker 1: He was twenty I remember seeing a picture of him 28 00:01:41,564 --> 00:01:43,764 Speaker 1: sort of paying homage to it, saying this is me 29 00:01:43,844 --> 00:01:44,564 Speaker 1: kind of ariston. 30 00:01:44,644 --> 00:01:46,804 Speaker 3: I said that was the twentieth anniversary of it, and 31 00:01:46,844 --> 00:01:48,444 Speaker 3: his parents at the time. I don't think they paid 32 00:01:48,444 --> 00:01:49,764 Speaker 3: a lot of money, and I don't think there was 33 00:01:49,764 --> 00:01:51,644 Speaker 3: a residual thing that they got out of it. 34 00:01:51,684 --> 00:01:53,724 Speaker 1: That was the deal that was done at the time. 35 00:01:54,284 --> 00:01:58,324 Speaker 1: So anyway, he has once again brought this case forward, 36 00:01:58,564 --> 00:02:01,604 Speaker 1: but the judge has now said beyond the fact that 37 00:02:01,644 --> 00:02:04,884 Speaker 1: he was naked, nothing quote came close to bringing the 38 00:02:04,924 --> 00:02:09,044 Speaker 1: image within the ambit of the child pornography statute. He 39 00:02:09,084 --> 00:02:12,284 Speaker 1: said the image was akin to a family photo of 40 00:02:12,324 --> 00:02:15,364 Speaker 1: a child bathing, and it's plainly insufficient to support a 41 00:02:15,404 --> 00:02:19,284 Speaker 1: finding of child pornography. This is what the judge wrote. 42 00:02:19,483 --> 00:02:22,244 Speaker 1: Nudity must be coupled with other circumstances that make the 43 00:02:22,324 --> 00:02:26,924 Speaker 1: vision depiction, dscivious or sexually provocative. The judge also cited 44 00:02:26,923 --> 00:02:30,124 Speaker 1: factors including the presence of mister Eldon's parents at the 45 00:02:30,124 --> 00:02:33,564 Speaker 1: photo shoot, the fact that photographer was a friend, the 46 00:02:33,603 --> 00:02:37,163 Speaker 1: fact that he had previously embraced and financially benefited from 47 00:02:37,204 --> 00:02:39,203 Speaker 1: being featured on the album cover. 48 00:02:39,444 --> 00:02:40,964 Speaker 2: Yes, so he's just did him for the dough. 49 00:02:41,244 --> 00:02:44,604 Speaker 3: He's just bitter because he possibly feels that his image 50 00:02:44,644 --> 00:02:47,484 Speaker 3: is being used. But suck o, mate, No one's going 51 00:02:47,564 --> 00:02:50,364 Speaker 3: to recognize you as the baby. 52 00:02:50,483 --> 00:02:52,883 Speaker 1: No, you're right, he just wants to get This is 53 00:02:52,884 --> 00:02:55,884 Speaker 1: a very famous album cover. It wasn't. No one knew 54 00:02:55,884 --> 00:02:57,684 Speaker 1: that at the time. I'd like more recompense. That's not 55 00:02:57,684 --> 00:02:58,163 Speaker 1: what he's saying. 56 00:02:58,163 --> 00:03:00,204 Speaker 3: If I was his mate, I would say, listen, you 57 00:03:00,244 --> 00:03:03,444 Speaker 3: had your time in the sun basking that and that's 58 00:03:03,444 --> 00:03:05,764 Speaker 3: what it is. Just because you get your picture immortalized 59 00:03:05,764 --> 00:03:07,243 Speaker 3: and it goes global, that's. 60 00:03:07,124 --> 00:03:07,764 Speaker 2: All well and good. 61 00:03:07,803 --> 00:03:09,764 Speaker 3: But you're not going to unless your parents were savvy 62 00:03:09,844 --> 00:03:12,684 Speaker 3: enough to sign a great deal that got you in 63 00:03:13,244 --> 00:03:14,683 Speaker 3: perpetuity to make the money. 64 00:03:14,764 --> 00:03:16,804 Speaker 2: But that's not going to happen. You lost, mate, Give 65 00:03:16,844 --> 00:03:17,204 Speaker 2: it up. 66 00:03:17,284 --> 00:03:19,724 Speaker 1: Well. His legal team have told The Rolling Stone that 67 00:03:19,764 --> 00:03:22,564 Speaker 1: they respectfully disagree with this decision and they plan to 68 00:03:22,603 --> 00:03:23,284 Speaker 1: appeal again. 69 00:03:23,324 --> 00:03:24,004 Speaker 2: This is a quote. 70 00:03:24,444 --> 00:03:29,444 Speaker 1: As long as the entertainment industry prioritizes profits over childhood, privacy, consent, 71 00:03:29,603 --> 00:03:33,724 Speaker 1: and dignity. We will continue up a suit for awareness and accountability. 72 00:03:33,803 --> 00:03:34,204 Speaker 2: What is that? 73 00:03:34,684 --> 00:03:37,484 Speaker 3: Strugglepot and cuddle Pie, the gumnut babies, they are in 74 00:03:37,484 --> 00:03:37,964 Speaker 3: the nude. 75 00:03:38,004 --> 00:03:38,924 Speaker 2: They should be covered up. 76 00:03:38,924 --> 00:03:43,484 Speaker 1: We should draw pants on them. Well we're at it, 77 00:03:43,564 --> 00:03:45,724 Speaker 1: let's put pants on the coat of arms. You know 78 00:03:45,844 --> 00:03:47,684 Speaker 1: that they've all got areas cover them up. 79 00:03:47,884 --> 00:03:49,564 Speaker 2: But it's like mister red. 80 00:03:49,404 --> 00:03:52,563 Speaker 3: Cover because Nirvana with when you buy a never mind 81 00:03:52,684 --> 00:03:55,884 Speaker 3: now when you see it like so on your streaming apps. 82 00:03:56,444 --> 00:04:01,164 Speaker 3: It's got the cover, but his penis has been photoshopped out, 83 00:04:01,204 --> 00:04:02,284 Speaker 3: so he's penisless. 84 00:04:02,803 --> 00:04:03,684 Speaker 1: Maybe that's upsetting. 85 00:04:04,284 --> 00:04:06,484 Speaker 2: They did the Crazy Frog they took away. It's penis. 86 00:04:06,564 --> 00:04:09,244 Speaker 2: Remember crazy Frog they took away. It's a peace. That's 87 00:04:09,324 --> 00:04:11,244 Speaker 2: it because hated No one wanted to see his little 88 00:04:11,244 --> 00:04:11,964 Speaker 2: Digcky did. 89 00:04:12,044 --> 00:04:17,924 Speaker 1: No more tadpoles for crazy Frog. That film clip was disturbing. 90 00:04:18,484 --> 00:04:24,484 Speaker 2: It's Amansaska. Okay, kids, that's it for the day. Come 91 00:04:24,524 --> 00:04:29,644 Speaker 2: back tomorrow for more. Jonesy and Amanda's cutting room block