1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Christian O'Connell show podcast. I am trying to leave my gym. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: It's easier to get to. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: Ball Jim's are the worst one. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Oh my word. And when I signed up a couple 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: of years ago. I've got a cheaper local gym now 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: where I go to with the kids and my wife. 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: So I said, I'll cancel our memberships. I thought it'd 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: be really easy. I didn't think they did those fixed 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: long term contracts. Twenty minutes, Yes to throw twenty minutes, 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: transfer to three three different people, all right? I rang, 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: and straight away they Lily went, they must just I 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: think it was. She sounded excited. She went, oh, I 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: can't do that. Let me transfer you to anyone on 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: the team. And I'm like, where am I going now? 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: Then there's music for ten minutes. Am I trapped in 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: the system? And I know what they're just trying to do. 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: They are urging me to hang out. I'm not going anywhere. 18 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: If i'm I'll cancel the show, I will. I'm staying 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: here until I die. Okay, I'm going to wait this out. 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: So I feed the dogs, I start unloading the washing machine, 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: I start using it, and then if Humanoid picks up hello, 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, I'd like to cancel my gym membership, 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: and she goes, I just need your phone number, and 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: they do the old sound effects basically, aren't they And 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: they're all laughing, listens speaking. Oh no, no, no, you 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: can't leave for for a year. I went, Now, I 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: was told it was like a month. So I'm just 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: letting you know. Now, you know, I'll be leaving in 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: a month's time. And we had five minutes, you know 30 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: where they it's just someone trying to do a job. 31 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: But they're reading from the script, aren't they about what 32 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: to say? New? They're not listening to anything you say. 33 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 1: They just keep repeating the same phrases. You know, Michael Douglas, 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: aren't you The anger starts to rise up and you're 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: just trying to get he says, the human trying to 36 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: do a job. And then she goes, so basically there's 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: nothing you can do. I went, look, I'm really unhappy 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: with this. This doesn't seem fair, I said, does it 39 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: seem fair to you? Silence from the human but obviously 40 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: not allowed to say anything. 41 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: You're going off script? 42 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing. She goes, would you like to say 43 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: this further? I went, yeah, I really would. She goes, 44 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: this is what she said. She goes, I'll tell to 45 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: the escalator. Is that a person? That's why I said, 46 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: I said who, I said, the escalator? That's someone someone 47 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: is the escalator there she went up. This it's actually 48 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: a team. There's a team of escalators. She goes, yes, 49 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm now back in hold for seven minutes. I don't 50 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: know whether there's an escalator to get up to the escalator. 51 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: She disappears. Then she comes back on going the escalation 52 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: team will call you back in three to five working days. 53 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: Are how many escalations are they working on three to 54 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: five days? 55 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 2: How many people are escalating to get to the escalation three. 56 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: To five days? So now I just want to well, 57 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: I don't sleep. She said that they call you at 58 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: some point. I want I keep the phone on during 59 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: the night. I don't want to miss that call. They're 60 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: going to call me. So yeah, I've got to work. 61 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: I just wait around the next three to five days 62 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: where someone from the escalation team will call me once 63 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: they reviewed get this my case and now, and then 64 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: I got emailed at a case number, you know, like 65 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: in a criminal incurs. 66 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: You know, you're just going back to square one. Anyway, 67 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: escalation team is going to be even better at doing 68 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: that script who the first person is. 69 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: They're going to have skills. So I don't know that 70 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: I trained hostage and negotiats. They're going to drind the 71 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: man that they're going to draw this man down. 72 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: And you're only what you're trying to do is meet 73 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: them on an emotional level, which they don't want to 74 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: meet you at, which is like, do you think that's. 75 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: Very wise thing? I was trying to appeal to their 76 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: human side. Forget it, Patsy, look at that? Would you 77 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: take up my case? 78 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 3: Well, I was about to suggest before you do need 79 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: to get onto Consumer Affairs Victoria. They'll sort it for you. 80 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: But if I've signed a contract, it's on me then 81 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: that I've signed the contract, I did. 82 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: Say you would have to like it locked you into 83 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: a certain period. 84 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: You check all that stuff. 85 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: Look, I trust them. I trust the gym to have 86 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: looked over the contract more than I trust you. 87 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: You are now the man. No, I hate the escalator. 88 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: I finally met him. You are the wizard of I 89 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: was behind the curtain. You're the escalator. 90 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: I've done my fair share on the phone. I had 91 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: an Internet company once where the Internet was transferring to 92 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: a new house and it just wouldn't work at the 93 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: new house. And then they said, we can't cancel it 94 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: until you go take your modem to a next door 95 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: neighbor and see if it works at their house. 96 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to knock on. 97 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: My new neighbor's door and plug my modem in. 98 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: Think they're trying to like peggyback or anything. I'm not 99 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: falling for that. You're catfishing. I don't think that's catfishing, 100 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: but anyway, they're fishing in some way. 101 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: And they said, until you try that, we can't cancel 102 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: you really do I think I. 103 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: Did lie and went hang on him the door ry No, no, no, 104 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: it's just tried it. But great idea to at least 105 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: try it. So can we cancel that now? But consumer 106 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: fras aren't going to get involved in a petty. 107 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 3: No, but they'll be able to tell you about your 108 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: rights where you stand in this situation. 109 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: I got to be honest, right, I think I need 110 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: someone more tenacious than me. Would you? I would actually 111 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: pay you, right, Patsy? Are you serious serious? I just 112 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: need this? 113 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: I can't you want me to bust some heads? 114 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: This escalated really quickly. You're this show's escalator busts some heads. 115 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: They're a gym. Remember, I'm going to call him back today. 116 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: I go, look, I didn't want to do this, but 117 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm this close to getting a friend of mine to 118 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: bust some heads. You're recording this good bust some heads? 119 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: So which way which? Once I dropped this hammer, I 120 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: can't undrop it. Okay, so just think through the next move. 121 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: Let that escalation team right now. You've got my case number. 122 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: By the way, the case number of the game is 123 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: like an eighty seven digit and think you write this down. 124 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you're not. N A A A A 125 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: four one. Christian O'Connell Show podcast