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Speaker 1: Staver Scateruver.

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Speaker 2: On the cutting room floor today. Handbags.

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Speaker 1: You love handbag, You know, I love an accessory, not

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Speaker 1: an accessory to a life of crime murder that No,

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Speaker 1: not that. But this is interesting, they say. A company

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Speaker 1: says that it's designed some leather that has been synthesized

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Speaker 1: from the DNA of the Tyrannosaurus rex. So sixty six

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Speaker 1: million years ago, the t rex roam the earth. They're

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Speaker 1: saying that they've been able to get some fossilized t

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Speaker 1: rex remains and they have lab grown some leather and

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Speaker 1: turn it into what looks like a crocodile handbag. It

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Speaker 1: looks nice, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: It looks like a whole Tyrannosaurus rat.

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Speaker 1: No, that's the picture of the you're looking at the

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Speaker 1: picture of the dinosaur. Behind its just a bag in

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Speaker 1: the front.

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Speaker 2: The skin has blended in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So what they're saying here is this lab grown.

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Speaker 2: It's like when the rolling stones stand together.

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Speaker 1: I'd make a handbag of that. The lab grown fossilized

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Speaker 1: t rex collagen, they say, will be used as a

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Speaker 1: blueprint to manufacture a material that's structurally identical to traditional leather.

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Speaker 1: He'll be by a degradable innovative and ethically sound. However,

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Speaker 1: ethically sound, no dinosaurs were killed for this as one

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Speaker 1: dinosaur expert has said that the claim of making t

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Speaker 1: rex leather is misleading because they say there is no

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Speaker 1: preserved t rex DNA, because there are no t rex

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Speaker 1: gene DNA. They say starts to decay as soon as

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Speaker 1: the animal dies, though some fragments might remain in the

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Speaker 1: environment casual for a few million years, but the oldest

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Speaker 1: preserved DNA on record is about two million years old.

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Speaker 1: The t rex went extinct sixty six million years go,

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Speaker 1: so if this was going to happen, this would be

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Speaker 1: the first ever sample of a leather source from an

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Speaker 1: extinct species. But when they can't, you get DNA from

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Speaker 1: things like I've got a piece of resin that I

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Speaker 1: bought in Dubai that has a tiny little mosquito in amber.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: That is prehistoric, and I could extract DNA from that.

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Speaker 3: Surely it's like old mate from Jurassic Park and it

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Speaker 3: was in his walking stick in his cane.

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Speaker 1: But that's not real. If you've got a creature embedded

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Speaker 1: in resin in amber in amber, that's what I meant.

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Speaker 1: I didn't make did I say resin, I say amber.

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Speaker 1: If you've got something embedded in amber, yep, surely that

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Speaker 1: would still hold its DNA.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what But wei Jurassic Park.

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Speaker 1: But we don't have dinosaurs. Imagine how big the necklaces

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Speaker 1: I'd have to have of amber with a dinosaur inside.

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Speaker 3: Because when you're talking about dinosaur genes like Tyrannosaurus genes,

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Speaker 3: you would imagine they wear a gene that would cover a.

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Speaker 2: Tail and everything like that.

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Speaker 3: A pair of jeans because they walk on the two Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they wear a mean pair.

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Speaker 1: Would they wear the jeans from the waist back?

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Speaker 2: Yea, all four legs.

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Speaker 1: In a pair of jeans and a belt that goes

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Speaker 1: around their middle long ways. This is like that debate.

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Speaker 1: If a dolphin was to play a flute, does it

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Speaker 1: play it from its mouth or from its blowhole?

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Speaker 2: It looks strange holding there.

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Speaker 1: If a giraffe we wear is a necktie, is it

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Speaker 1: top of the neck top bottom?

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Speaker 4: Not?

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Speaker 1: Well, other people saying bottle the neck because you don't

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Speaker 1: wear it at the top of your neck. You're at

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Speaker 1: the base of your neck where it joins your.

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Speaker 3: Body midway neck. Every giraffe is going to wear a

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Speaker 3: neck tie. It's going for an interview at the zoo.

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Speaker 3: Mister g Raff will see you now. But I like

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Speaker 3: the idea of a taradosaurus carrying a handbag has.

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Speaker 1: Got I think it could do it because it looks

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Speaker 1: like it's got little hands carrying a hand back.

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Speaker 3: Because if it's chasing you down, you're in a Jurassic

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Speaker 3: Park world and there's and you look at her, look

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Speaker 3: at you with your your little handbag.

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Speaker 1: Well that's why, as they say, you know, they can't smoke,

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Speaker 1: because you can't get a smoke up to your hand

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Speaker 1: from his little Jurassic arms, which should be the name

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Speaker 1: of the world's smallest pub, the Jurassic Arms.

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Speaker 2: I see what you did, Thank you. It's and a

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Speaker 2: man is getting.

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Speaker 3: What's on the categorom floor today. I can tell you piercings.

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Speaker 1: Do you still have holes in your ears? Not your

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Speaker 1: earring hole, not your ear holes, your earring holes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably, yeah, you can see them.

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Speaker 1: See how many you have in that one?

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Speaker 2: I had three and two or two and three?

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Speaker 1: And when did you stop using them?

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Speaker 2: I had to appear in fat Pizza.

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Speaker 1: And you thought I'd better look fair now I wasn't fat.

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Speaker 2: Actually I played in fat Pizza.

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Speaker 3: I played the journalist that in invertently starts the Cronulla Riots,

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Speaker 3: and Paul Fennix said, well, you know, journalists largely don't

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Speaker 3: have piercings.

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Speaker 2: That was back in the good old days. Now, you know,

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Speaker 2: you have devil horns on your forehead and you're doing

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Speaker 2: the nightly news.

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Speaker 3: So I took them out for that, and then my

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Speaker 3: role morphed into the CEO of playing the role of

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Speaker 3: Jonathan on Swift and Shift.

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Speaker 1: You played my boss. Your boss was laughable at well.

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Speaker 3: You were Amanda Doyle. And once again I took the

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Speaker 3: earrings out. So I was forty when I took them out,

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Speaker 3: and I never put them back.

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Speaker 1: In, And why didn't you choose to put them back.

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Speaker 3: Here just became too much of a hassle to go

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Speaker 3: and film the show, and then I have to put

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Speaker 3: them back in again, and then I lost one and

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Speaker 3: I lost another one. And then one day I saw

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Speaker 3: myself without them and I went, you know what, you know,

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Speaker 3: I could probably do it again. Put it back in again.

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Speaker 3: Instart being Adoe with an earring like Barnsey. He's got one, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but he's he's Barnsey. And then I see Harrison Ford

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Speaker 3: with his little diamond start earing. Remember you got upset

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Speaker 3: with cac He was on Cherry and Kennelly's show.

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Speaker 2: And she said, what's with the earring?

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Speaker 3: And well, he's grumpy at best of times, so that

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Speaker 2: You might as well said you can't fly a plane.

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Speaker 1: Well, had a few incidents with that as well.

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Speaker 2: I really had one plane crash, and there's.

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Speaker 1: Been two, hasn't has I got my ears piece? When

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Speaker 1: I was younger, I always wanted to get my ears pierced,

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Speaker 1: I think, and and Dad said he was of the

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Speaker 1: ear that said, whyn't you get a bone through your nose?

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Speaker 1: Certain times? So I did.

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Speaker 3: My dad, mate, when you're eighteen, you can get a

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Speaker 3: bone through your notes.

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Speaker 1: Why when I left home went to university, I was

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Speaker 1: I left home at seventeen to go to UNI, and

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Speaker 1: I did get my ears pierced. And then because I

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Speaker 1: wore earring, wore headphones for so long they kind of

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Speaker 1: closed over. And when I was with Beyond two thousand

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Speaker 1: on television in the eighties, I wore ping pong balls

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Speaker 1: as ear rings. I wore big seed pods as earrings.

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Speaker 1: I had massive, massive earrings and then when it going

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Speaker 1: to radio, the holes kind of cleared over and closed over.

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Speaker 1: So I got them redone probably ten years ago. Every time,

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Speaker 1: every time I'd be filming anywhere, the stylist would say,

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Speaker 1: we'll put these, I said, well, and they could not

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Speaker 3: Till you have to price line pharmacy and I said,

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Speaker 3: there you go. I'm just dropping the Latin of the

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Speaker 1: It was really painful second time round, was it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was really painful. But the reason I'm asking about

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Speaker 1: your piercings. Here's the latest trend I've seen is for

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Speaker 1: people who, as they say, might have trouble keeping their

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Speaker 1: glasses from slipping down their noses. It's a bridge piercing.

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Speaker 1: It's a piercing across the bridge of your nose that

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Speaker 1: you attach your glasses to so your glasses don't fall off.

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Speaker 1: So you have a piercing on one side of your

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Speaker 1: nose and on the other and your glasses click into them.

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Speaker 1: And an expert here has said this latest body modification

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Speaker 1: is used to replace traditional glass frames. Though unique, it

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Speaker 1: raises concerns about healing, comfort and in the long term,

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Speaker 1: the effects of metal constantly bearing weight on the face.

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Speaker 1: There is there and then looking at this I just

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Speaker 1: kind of found a whole lot of images. Have you

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Speaker 1: heard about rhino piercing.

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Speaker 2: No, that would be the schnozzer.

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Speaker 1: What imagines to rhin O'Neill. No, rhino piercing. It's a piercing,

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Speaker 1: a stud that goes right through the tip of the nose.

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Speaker 1: Have a look at Exhibit aut Okay, a vertical piercing

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Speaker 1: plays through the tip of the nose. It's currently standing

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Speaker 1: out to those seeking to deviate from more conventional piercing

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Speaker 1: options like nostril a septum. Imagine those being so old

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Speaker 1: that you now have to think, how embarrassing Grandma's got

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Speaker 1: one of those. I'll put this in. It gets worse.

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Speaker 1: There's a piercing that goes between your front teeth, but

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Speaker 1: not between the teeth, that goes into the gum. Gum piercing,

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Speaker 1: A gum piercing. And what's a labrette? Is that the

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Speaker 1: hole the big hole that's this one here?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Is that the elaborate that stretches your skin?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, right, so you get expanded, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But this girl has a piercing under her nose like

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Speaker 1: a stud, and then she has a big circle. You

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Speaker 1: see this, but it's under the lip and through that,

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Speaker 1: right through you see her teeth and gums when her

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Speaker 1: a cheek piercing. That's the size of a coffee cup,

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Speaker 1: I reckon and through it you can see teeth, gums,

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Speaker 1: and tongue. It makes me feel sick. And there's someone

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Speaker 1: who has two tattoo studs in an arm pit? What's

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Speaker 1: that for? Is that stimulating? Is it just to look

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Speaker 1: different befefits in your armpit? Who cares? And that might

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Speaker 1: be a man, you know, might be a man.

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Speaker 3: I remember I was outraged when Toby from Human Nature

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Speaker 2: What the hell?

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Speaker 3: That's the It might as well be the four horsemen

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Speaker 3: of the apocalypse. Toby from Human Nature has got an

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Speaker 3: eyebrow piercing.

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Speaker 2: We're all going to hell and the hand.

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Speaker 1: And now probably the head of the Commonwealth Bank and

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Speaker 1: the Governor General have eyebrows.

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Speaker 4: Prince Albert, hey, hey, everybody, hears some more Jelsey in

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Speaker 4: a man's curtain room for hey. Hey, Hey, get ready, everybody,

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Speaker 4: here's some more josy and a man's curtain room for hey.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, are you ready for on the cutting room floor,

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Prince Louis.

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Speaker 1: Oh, isn't he cute? He is the stirr of the

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Speaker 1: royal children. And we've seen evidence of this and flybys

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Speaker 1: and all. Is that what we call them? When the

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Speaker 1: planes go overhead and they're standing on the balcony and

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Speaker 1: he gets bored and he puts his hands over his

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Speaker 1: ears and he gooms and he fucks around his mode

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Speaker 1: and his mother says, stop it now. Well, the ve

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Speaker 1: Day commemorations were on last week, and there's a hilarious moment.

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Speaker 1: This is so my son's, it's so you and your brother,

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Speaker 1: it's everything. Prince George, who's now eleven, he's getting to

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Speaker 1: the stage where he's probably a bit more conscious of

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Speaker 1: his appearance. Is bowl hair cut and all of that anymore.

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Speaker 1: There he just flicks his fingers through his hair, and

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Speaker 1: seven year old Louis, wh's sitting next to him with

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Speaker 3: Yes. So do you think the future for these two boys,

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Speaker 1: No, they're just kids.

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Speaker 3: I often wonder if Harry wasn't a royal and William

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Speaker 2: I would say, like just movie stars.

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Speaker 1: And in terms of brothers kind of mocking each other

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Speaker 1: Jack's you know, when they were younger asking for birthday presents,

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Speaker 3: I'll have just a piece of stream and a pair

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Speaker 3: My brother and I when we were young, my brother

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Speaker 2: Because we're similar ages.

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Speaker 3: People mistook us for twins, so my mother would buy

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Speaker 1: Was it your wedding day?

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: Our wedding day?

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Speaker 2: Brother, was our wedding you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 1: And your mother knew you well enough to say, don't

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Speaker 2: And I saw the jacket before that she gave it

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Speaker 3: I said that to Mum, and he said, she said,

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Speaker 2: Okay, his birthday. Care.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: He opens the jacket, puts it on, likes it o.

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Speaker 2: You know, he was looking and you look at your.

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Speaker 2: He walked down the stairs and he has what do

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Speaker 2: And would your mother say, I'm not wearing that jacket.

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Speaker 1: No, No, brothers, hey.

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Speaker 2: Brothers on the cutting room floor. What we got there today, Governor?

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Speaker 1: Haven't we all enjoyed seeing the return of Vivian. Vivian

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Speaker 1: Kangaroo on.

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Speaker 2: Yep yep for like eighteen months.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, their owners took it along to Kangaroo Island for a.

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Speaker 2: And it's not the sort of dog you take into

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Speaker 3: You see those dudes, the driver and the ford raptors,

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Speaker 2: And then they let the pig dog and they gat

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Speaker 3: No, you don't take a little duck sound along for

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Speaker 1: They went camping. They took their little dog along because

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Speaker 1: Because I was wondering if he'd come home and like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because Cujo was a Saint Bernard, and you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: Saint Bernard's largely or a rescue.

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Speaker 1: Dog, especially when they're bring you the Brandy, when.

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Speaker 2: They bring the little little bowel of Brandy.

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Speaker 1: Remember Pet Symmetry. That book scared the hell out of me.

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Speaker 2: Was there a Saint Bernard in that as well?

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Speaker 1: No, it was, it was yeah, and the little kid, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well, if you haven't seen a movie from nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: We can't help you with that. But that was terrifying.

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Speaker 1: a lad Vivian's alive and well.

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Speaker 2: A dash hand because they're the cutest little dog. They

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Speaker 2: look like they always look like they're wearing a waistcoat.

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Speaker 1: Are they doing? Their little velvety arms.

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Speaker 1: It's so sweet.

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Speaker 2: They're plagued with veterinary problems, though, aren't they?

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Speaker 1: Well are they?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, because they're not meant to be that like that?

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Speaker 1: Yes, well maybe not the miniatures, but they were bred.

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Speaker 1: Every dog has a purpose. Every dog originally had a job.

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Speaker 1: You didn't breed them just to be fun. Even the

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Speaker 1: a job. The lap dogs, that was their job. That's

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Speaker 1: We all know what those jobs are, us chasing around sheep.

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Speaker 1: But any of those dogs with slightly longer noses, if

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Speaker 1: go for a walk, whatever, they'll move their head from

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Speaker 1: So every dog has a job, so I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what Valeries is so cute.

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Speaker 3: I had a dog run so it was just a

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Speaker 2: Was to be a perpose I did.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about cats, though I'm not a cat person.

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Speaker 1: You've had a number of cats over the town, and

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Speaker 1: being fed down the road.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, rufus our cat that we had. And I don't

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Speaker 3: I just don't have any time for them. And it's

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Speaker 3: not fair. It doesn't mean I don't like them. I

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Speaker 3: You need a dog in your life, I don't. But

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Speaker 2: What happened. We inherited two cats.

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Speaker 1: My wife and my kids inherited them too.

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Speaker 2: Families are like that as well.

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Speaker 3: I want to be like reach Up, just going from

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Speaker 2: That's all I want to be.

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Speaker 1: But someone was feeding your cat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so with a French chap and he loved Rufus,

443
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Speaker 3: and Rufus was a very you met Rufus, he was

444
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Speaker 3: a very wise cat. But he was a very smart

445
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 3: cat as well, very well read, very good at like

446
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 3: munching into minor birds, like never munched into a native bird,

447
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Speaker 3: by the way.

448
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Speaker 2: But I remember one time watching.

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Speaker 3: Him on my back fence and there was these minor

450
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Speaker 3: birds him because he just killed one miner bird and

451
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Speaker 3: the miner bird what the remains of it were at

452
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Speaker 3: the back fence, and the other birds the rest of

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Speaker 3: the bird found.

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Speaker 2: We were clearly upset about.

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Speaker 3: This, were swooping Rufus and Rivers is sort of lying

456
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Speaker 3: on the top of the fence, well fed, well fed.

457
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Speaker 3: And then about twenty thirty minutes later I walked past

458
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Speaker 3: and there's a dead miner bird again and Rufus carry

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Speaker 3: you birds don't come in for the hunting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was.

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Speaker 1: And then there were two. Well the reason I bring

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Speaker 1: this up, if someone is systematically feeding your cat, you

463
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Speaker 1: can if you live in Switzerland, you can have them arrested. Really,

464
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: this woman in Zurich, an elderly woman is facing court

465
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Speaker 1: accused of systematically feeding her neighbor's cat. The cat's name

466
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Speaker 1: is Leo, and because she made it so easy for

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Speaker 1: Leo to go in there and be fed all the time,

468
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Speaker 1: Leo didn't want to return to his own home and

469
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Speaker 1: the owners are suing this woman. So she repeatedly fed Leo,

470
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Speaker 1: who lives in the same building, over a ten month period.

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Speaker 1: Despite her neighbour's requests for her to stop feeding Leo,

472
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Speaker 1: she didn't. She continued to defy their wishes. She installed

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Speaker 1: a cat flap on her door so Leo could come

474
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Speaker 1: and go as he pleased. The constant feeding and ease

475
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Speaker 1: of entry meant that Leo ended up abandoning his rightful

476
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Speaker 1: owner and instead favoring the old woman. She's facing charges

477
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Speaker 1: of systematic feeding, which is a criminal offense in Switzerland.

478
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Speaker 1: Says here. While it sounds lighthearted, cases like this are

479
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Speaker 1: increasingly landing in court, with many pet owners reporting feeders

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Speaker 1: who are interfering with their cats. Because it's easy to

481
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Speaker 1: buy a cat's affection, dogs not so much. You know,

482
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Speaker 1: with a cat, you can buy them off. They just

483
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Speaker 1: go to the nearest cats care.

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Speaker 2: Where are the foods coming? That's right, You do not

485
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Speaker 2: want to interfere with your neighbors pussy.

486
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Speaker 1: Because he has this whole journey has led to this.

487
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Speaker 2: At the next neighborhood watch meeting, it's going to.

488
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Speaker 1: Be right and it is this where you're going for

489
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Speaker 1: the minor birds. No, no, let's pretend this is never What.

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Speaker 2: Have you done? On the cutting room floor? See I

491
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Speaker 2: do something and then you do it worse.

492
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Speaker 1: You didn't need to do anything. You could have just gone,

493
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Speaker 1: what an interesting story and left it at that.

494
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Speaker 2: What an interesting story. Let's leave it at that.

495
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Speaker 1: Thank you?

496
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Speaker 2: Roll the outro on the cutting room floor.

497
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Speaker 3: Texting K is the most emotionally triggering text you can send.

498
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Speaker 2: This is just dropped breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently a study has confirmed that when you text

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Speaker 1: someone just K. Not even just okay okay is bad enough,

501
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: but just K, it's the most triggering thing. And this

502
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Speaker 1: is what's interesting. They're saying that even though all of

503
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Speaker 1: texting is about truncating language, it can still carry weight

504
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: and have an impact.

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Speaker 3: Someone said that the thumbs up is passive aggressive. I thought,

506
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: that's like, okay, good on your job done, I've got

507
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 3: the message.

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Speaker 1: It's still a level of being dismissive. You know what,

509
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm like with texts. My friend's panic because when they're

510
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: texting me, they know I like capital letters, Yeah, full stops,

511
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Speaker 1: correct apostrophes, all of that stuff. I drive people crazy

512
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: with my text.

513
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Speaker 2: My daughter hates when I put a full stop. It's

514
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: so aggressive. That just so aggressive and it's just it's

515
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: just punctuation. And she said, you're being aggressive? Now?

516
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Speaker 1: Is that funny that if you use normal punctuation it's triggering.

517
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Speaker 1: Taking things away just with K is triggering.

518
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: Yep?

519
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 3: You know what I hate When someone writes an email

520
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Speaker 3: and signs off with cheers.

521
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: I do that?

522
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: Do you? You do know I do want a cheers? No?

523
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, as opposed to what what it regards?

524
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Speaker 1: What would you rather? I do cheers?

525
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 2: In fact on me? You don't even write emails, Yeah

526
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Speaker 2: we were.

527
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Speaker 1: I write emails that you don't even know about it

528
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Speaker 1: to management.

529
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: You know a last can do your email server here

530
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 3: crash The server crashed because you had one hundred and

531
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 3: fifty thousand unread email.

532
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: Well, sometimes I do have to do ones at home.

533
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: I put cheers on texts as well.

534
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: You have never said not to you?

535
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Speaker 1: What would I do it to you? Cheers means it's

536
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: less formal than regards. But it's not love, it's not thanks,

537
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: it's I thought it was nice.

538
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: What about people? But chiao bella, I like all that too.

539
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: Do you put a bit of a tain in there?

540
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Speaker 1: I don't, but I would be happy to.

541
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: Write to believe it. Cheers and bees.

542
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: No, no, now you're just being stupid.

543
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: Cheers what about Okay, away from that.

544
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 3: But I've known you since I've met you in August

545
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: of nineteen ninety nine, and this information on this day

546
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five has just dropped.

547
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Speaker 1: You know, But this is the casual nature of language. Now,

548
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Speaker 1: my friend Anita McGregor is a university lecture and she's

549
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Speaker 1: had to mark people's assignments all postgrad. So these are

550
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Speaker 1: people who are in their twenties, they've already done three

551
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Speaker 1: years of studying, et cetera, et cetera, and a proposition

552
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: is put at the top blah blah blah like school debating.

553
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: And one of them started with that is so not true.

554
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: And people applying for jobs and places using the letter

555
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Speaker 1: eight instead of like great gr.

556
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Speaker 2: They're writing in text speech, in text.

557
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Speaker 1: Speak on emails.

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Speaker 2: What would William Shakespeare's say?

559
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: What would he say you just send a giant aubergeene.

560
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: To Testemona.

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Speaker 3: He's a giant obergene to be getting on. I would

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Speaker 3: just say this in conclusion, what is your most dismissive

563
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Speaker 3: word that you.

564
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Speaker 2: Can say to someone like Champ? That's dismissive? Do you

565
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Speaker 2: think if you said thanks.

566
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Speaker 1: Chair, I would never call someone cham. No, that's you

567
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Speaker 1: say Champ.

568
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Speaker 2: I know you will never hear me say Champ.

569
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Speaker 3: And if you've watch mister in between, if you want

570
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: to get bashed to death in the jail, don't say Champ.

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00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: Really one day, may you tell me?

572
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: When I had a builder.

573
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: Doing some work and he's a top top builder, and

574
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: then I was told to him on the phone, and

575
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: then someone else was told to me.

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00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: As I was toying to him on the phone, I said,

577
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: thank you, Lucas, good.

578
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: On your Champ, and then he went yep, hung up,

579
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 3: and then everything matrix like slowed down, and I went no,

580
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: and I rang Lucas bag I said, and he goes, yeah,

581
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: everything again, And I said, mate, I'm sorry, I just

582
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 3: called you Champ and you're not a Champ.

583
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: But you called him mate, Mate, I've just called you Champ.

584
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: Mate is fine?

585
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: I don't understand why Champ's offensive.

586
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: Cheers you go into jail, Yeah I will, I will.

587
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 3: It's exactly right to Barbara and say, yeah, thanks Champ,

588
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: and see how you get on.

589
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that's my assignon for the weekend and I'm happy.

590
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. Okay. Kids, that's it for today. Come

591
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: back tomorrow from What Johns and a Man