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Speaker 1: housemates from Big Brother twenty twenty two. The entire season
Speaker 1: has been a massive ride for all housemates, and while
Speaker 1: Channel seven gears up from mega finale Tuesday night at
Speaker 1: seven point thirty, I have og superstar Reggie Byrd, Superfan Johnson,
Speaker 1: and Strategic rat Bag Terras ready to unpack their road
Speaker 1: to glory. Who will win you decide? Details on how
Speaker 1: to vote become available on the Channel seven website and
Speaker 1: Facebook page. Make sure you vote so your winner doesn't
Speaker 1: fall over at the finish line. Two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars is a lot at stake, and these housemates
Speaker 1: need you more than ever. This year we saw Head
Speaker 1: of House a power twist, second Chance, Challengers, themed tweaks,
Speaker 1: housemate nominations and secret missions all shake up the house
Speaker 1: as returning favorites went up against a brand new breed
Speaker 1: of housemates. Endemol Shine Australia picked seven of the most
Speaker 1: memorable housemates to return to the house, and from Tully
Speaker 1: and Drew to Tim Laylor and Estelle even earlier season
Speaker 1: superstars Reggie, Trevor and Farmer Dave. The celebration of twenty
Speaker 1: one years since Big Brother launched has been epic.
Speaker 2: The Ogs versus Newbies.
Speaker 1: Was how the game started, but as the numbers dwindled
Speaker 1: and alliance has crumbled, all that was left was Reggie,
Speaker 1: Johnson and Terras set to face the public vote. We
Speaker 1: will talk why they should win, what they think of
Speaker 1: each other. However, let's get started. I'd like to welcome
Speaker 1: Reggie to Ras and Johnson to TV Reload.
Speaker 3: It must have been a root shop to the Ogs.
Speaker 4: We've been through a lot together, haven't we.
Speaker 5: You're saying I'm fake. I'm faking my eye disease. She's
Speaker 5: not blind.
Speaker 4: This year, it's my twenty first birthday.
Speaker 6: I didn't lie or anything. I told her. I was like, Hey,
Speaker 6: you've got to tell me because I can't keep doing this, and.
Speaker 4: I've invited housemates both new and legendary.
Speaker 3: Why do I want to stand next to Red Because
Speaker 3: I want to. I want to go up against the bet.
Speaker 4: Will experience be enough to take on the next generation
Speaker 4: of Housemaid's.
Speaker 5: Been asked to come back, and I don't expect to
Speaker 5: be treated any differently.
Speaker 4: This is big brother.
Speaker 2: Hi Reggie, how are you?
Speaker 5: Hey? Ben? Thank you for having me. I'm really good.
Speaker 2: I love it. Reg Tras, how are you, mate?
Speaker 6: Ben? I'm doing all right. I'm still here.
Speaker 2: You're still in it.
Speaker 6: I guess that's got to be grateful for that.
Speaker 2: Hi John Jason, how are you, Ben?
Speaker 3: I'm blown away. I just first of all, I'm so
Speaker 3: humbled and blessed to be here to beat the end,
Speaker 3: to beat the finish line, There's one more hurdle, and
Speaker 3: that's the big w Reg.
Speaker 1: You had been quite disappointed that you'd missed out on
Speaker 1: being picked for VIP only the year before. Did they
Speaker 1: ever give you an explanation as to why they didn't
Speaker 1: end up using you for VIP, but then holding you
Speaker 1: on for Big Brother Back to the Future.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was really disappointed. I was so excited to
Speaker 5: get axed to do VP, and I thought, oh my god,
Speaker 5: this is I've been dreaming of coming back for so
Speaker 5: many years and then pretty much for at the last minute,
Speaker 5: they said they know longer wanted me, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: oh what they what was it? They said they had
Speaker 5: not better talent but along those lines like something I
Speaker 5: guess better came along to me. So after seeing Caitlyn
Speaker 5: Jennery there no wonder they didn't put me in there.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I was really really disappointed, and I thought, oh,
Speaker 5: that's it, that that was my chance of coming back.
Speaker 1: Well, I know what it's like to miss out, and
Speaker 1: for years and years and years and being your friend,
Speaker 1: I've dreamt that we would get to do it together
Speaker 1: and I've missed out.
Speaker 2: But I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 5: Oh Ben, it would have been awesome may to have
Speaker 5: you in the house. We were talking about Wen's Ben
Speaker 5: coming in? When's Ben coming in? And I really really
Speaker 5: thought that you were going to come into the house.
Speaker 5: You missed out this time, But I think it's cross
Speaker 5: We might cross paths somewhere else s down the line
Speaker 5: in another house somewhere.
Speaker 2: Canada, UK, there's plenty of Big Brother houses.
Speaker 5: Oh ma, contover into another country and doing it. It'd
Speaker 5: be Oh my god, it'd be the best.
Speaker 1: It would be, it would be the best. I think
Speaker 1: there'd be a long list of housemates from Australia trying
Speaker 1: to get in there. Johnson, you are a super fan.
Speaker 1: Did you have a wish list of maybe former housemates
Speaker 1: that you would have liked to have seen? I mean,
Speaker 1: once you started seeing people coming in, is there anyone
Speaker 1: that didn't come in that you would have liked to
Speaker 1: have seen.
Speaker 3: I thought Sky was going to come in, Sky and
Speaker 3: Prayer from the season after Tims. I thought Terry was
Speaker 3: coming in. I thought Terry was going to come in
Speaker 3: and shake things up. That would have been That would
Speaker 3: have been incredible. That would have been crazy, Tras.
Speaker 2: Did you know who all these ogs were?
Speaker 1: Johnson's a super fan, Reggie's been there before, you know,
Speaker 1: did you did you know any of these people or
Speaker 1: were they all knewbies to you?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 6: My god, I was in love with Reggie when I
Speaker 6: was like twelve. I was like, She's the most beautiful
Speaker 6: woman in the world. I was always like, I want
Speaker 6: Trevor to win his season. I want Trevor to win.
Speaker 6: I want Trevor, and he won. I was so stoked.
Speaker 6: I just knew how much love they had, and it
Speaker 6: was just so interesting having them come in and be like,
Speaker 6: oh my god, especially Tim, who is just like such
Speaker 6: a master at the game.
Speaker 1: My god, Reggie, what about even you? Is there anyone
Speaker 1: from the two thousand and three series your series the
Speaker 1: first time you took part on the show. Was there
Speaker 1: anyone from that series that you think could have come
Speaker 1: back for this iteration of Big Brother.
Speaker 5: Who would have been good in?
Speaker 6: There?
Speaker 5: Would have been my night, Ben Fat Bobby.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just realized who you mean. Ben
Speaker 1: was the person who had that clash with Chrissy Swan
Speaker 1: back in your series.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know you wanted.
Speaker 1: To do it.
Speaker 6: Why because I wanted to because someone up?
Speaker 2: But it's not relevant.
Speaker 6: It doesn't have to be relevant to stir someone use relevant.
Speaker 5: How iconic he would have been this this Big Brother
Speaker 5: would have been right up. He's ourly because he's such
Speaker 5: a shit stir and strategic. This this would have seeded
Speaker 5: him down to a tea.
Speaker 1: He's more appropriate, though, don't you think for this new
Speaker 1: version of Big Brother than he was for the original one.
Speaker 5: Oh most definitely. Yeah, so he was in way before
Speaker 5: his time. I wish he had to come in as well.
Speaker 5: He would have just stirred it right up.
Speaker 1: Well, Johnson, was your strategy to make sure everyone thought
Speaker 1: that you were a super fan, because I mean, this
Speaker 1: strategy is paying off for you.
Speaker 3: It wasn't really my strategy, to be honest, going into
Speaker 3: the house. Nor wasn't my strategy in the house. My
Speaker 3: strategy in the house was simple, play a big game
Speaker 3: player bowl game, take out, you know, take out those
Speaker 3: those middle range fish, because I like to see big
Speaker 3: players go far. I mean, Ben, I was nominated nine times,
Speaker 3: Ben nine times, Terereas.
Speaker 1: I am a big fan of your time on the show.
Speaker 1: You have been on the biggest journey with how we
Speaker 1: saw your time in the house. How much of that
Speaker 1: was on purpose? Is this an evolved gameplay that you
Speaker 1: sort of set out?
Speaker 6: Yes, so look in a sense, yes, and no, there's
Speaker 6: only so much you can prepare for. There's only so much.
Speaker 6: And I'm not cocky enough to be like, yeah, that
Speaker 6: was my gameplay. But a few things like when I
Speaker 6: did the interview to go to the house, I had
Speaker 6: just come out of COVID, like we were just in lockdown.
Speaker 6: I had this crappy mustache, this crappy haircut. They're like, hey,
Speaker 6: you're in. I was like, okay, cool, I'm gonna go
Speaker 6: get a haircut. They're like, no, no, no, you're going in.
Speaker 6: I want you to be like this. And I was like, damn,
Speaker 6: I look so dumb and ugly. And I was like, actually,
Speaker 6: that's probably good to look a bit weird like, And
Speaker 6: so I went in. And I knew that my social
Speaker 6: relationship game is good, Like I love people talking to people,
Speaker 6: I love getting to know people. I knew that if
Speaker 6: I could last a week or two in the house,
Speaker 6: I would have built strong enough relationships that i'd probably
Speaker 6: be okay for a bit. And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 6: You know. I wasn't put up. I was It's not
Speaker 6: like I faked any of those relationships. But I also knew,
Speaker 6: like it's a social game if you loved, if you liked,
Speaker 6: you're less likely to go up. I am also like
Speaker 6: not the fittest, but I am relatively fit and strong
Speaker 6: because like, I'm very vain, so I want to like
Speaker 6: look good, and I did try hard in all those challenges,
Speaker 6: but I didn't I didn't have much to lose. I
Speaker 6: felt like I was always felt like I was gonna
Speaker 6: you never feel safe in there, but I was like,
Speaker 6: I knew that it wasn't like if I'd lose this,
Speaker 6: I'm definitely going home, which a lot of people had,
Speaker 6: so I didn't have to dig as deep. And then
Speaker 6: halfway through, it was like all the challenge beasts had
Speaker 6: sort of gone by the wayside, you know, Estelle and
Speaker 6: JC were saying that they were challenge beasts, even though
Speaker 6: I was doing quite well in challenges. I was like, Okay, cool,
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna let them take that mantle. I don't
Speaker 6: need it, I don't want it. And from that point
Speaker 6: on it was like, Okay, I think now's the time
Speaker 6: that I can like power through and change the game plan.
Speaker 6: And it wasn't conscious. I wouldn't say it was conscious.
Speaker 6: It was just it was sort of necessary, I guess,
Speaker 6: and it could have failed at so many times, but
Speaker 6: it worked out. So yeah, look, long story short, it's
Speaker 6: not like I planned all that, but I didn't know
Speaker 6: that I had quite good skills in a lot of situations.
Speaker 1: So reg you get in how different is Big Brother
Speaker 1: now in twenty twenty two, almost twenty years later? Did
Speaker 1: it live up to the expectations? And Yeah, how different
Speaker 1: was it compared to the first time.
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, this was so chalk and cheese. It was this.
Speaker 5: This was brutal. The first Big Brother was a holiday,
Speaker 5: which I wanted. That's where I went into the show.
Speaker 5: I just wanted a holiday and had some fun. This
Speaker 5: one was so hard been I don't know how I
Speaker 5: did it, to be honest. It was super bad and
Speaker 5: so different. Like when I say they were going to
Speaker 5: bring back old with the new. Old, was expecting old
Speaker 5: with the new and there was There wasn't much old
Speaker 5: with the new at all. It was just all this
Speaker 5: strategic and challenges. So it wasn't much laying by the pool,
Speaker 5: I must say.
Speaker 2: N that's a good point, Johnson.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you missed out on having some
Speaker 1: time lying by the pool compared to some of the
Speaker 1: other earlier seasons.
Speaker 3: Hell, yeah, sometimes you just need to lay down bottle pool.
Speaker 3: But because I don't know any differently, Ben, it must
Speaker 3: have been a root shock to the ogs. Because I
Speaker 3: don't know any differently. This is the first time going
Speaker 3: into the house I don't know any differently, So for me,
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, this is it. Constant anxiety, constant pressure,
Speaker 3: going really dark, losing a lot of weight and losing
Speaker 3: all my hair. Jeez, let me tell you if this
Speaker 3: is what the old format was like, I don't know
Speaker 3: if any of the other seasons would follow it do.
Speaker 3: I wish it was laying by the pool. The old format,
Speaker 3: you got to know people, and you got to draw
Speaker 3: similarities and congruences with people because they're people. You got
Speaker 3: to know their personalities. No one got to know the newbies.
Speaker 3: No one got to know me for me, but I
Speaker 3: think it came out on screen, to be honest, I
Speaker 3: think it came out that I was there to play
Speaker 3: the game and that I was true to myself. And
Speaker 3: I was nominated nine times, so I did have the
Speaker 3: opportunity to send that a fiction chair and pitch, you know,
Speaker 3: and have the mic and Sonya and I became very
Speaker 3: close because of the amount of times I was nominated.
Speaker 3: But you don't go through the experience not wanting to
Speaker 3: be nominated and playing the game. And I think this
Speaker 3: season it was particularly tough for the newbies because when
Speaker 3: you were going to be on the back foot with
Speaker 3: Australia anyway, being a super fan or not a good.
Speaker 1: Question to ask you boys? Why didn't you try and
Speaker 1: get rid of Reggie? I mean, are you regretting that
Speaker 1: decision now? I mean two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: is at stake and you have allowed the queen of
Speaker 1: Big Brother to be sitting there next to you.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Great, Q I did. I got rid of Ice. She
Speaker 3: came back, No standing next to reg To be the best,
Speaker 3: you've got to beat the best. And I said that
Speaker 3: I wanted to play a big game and I wanted
Speaker 3: to make big moves. The hackers asked me a question, Ben,
Speaker 3: and it was who do you want to be standing
Speaker 3: next to in the finale? And it was Leisha and Redge.
Speaker 3: Why do I? Why do I want to stand next
Speaker 3: to Reg? Because I want to I want to go
Speaker 3: up against the best. Do I regret it? No? I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't regret it. I don't have regrets. I've made
Speaker 3: it this far because of the relationships that I made
Speaker 3: in the house. And it was reg that swung from
Speaker 3: five to four. I pitched to her and she knew
Speaker 3: exactly what she needed to do, and that's why she
Speaker 3: sent her Malsia because she knew how much this meant
Speaker 3: to me. She knew how much our relationship, how close
Speaker 3: we were. You know, Regie and I have such a
Speaker 3: beautiful relationship. I don't want to say father's son. It's
Speaker 3: more like stepmother, where you love to love and sometimes
Speaker 3: you love to hate her. But I love Red, love, love, love,
Speaker 3: love reag. So do I have any regrets? No, no,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: Well, at the end of the movie step Mom, Susan
Speaker 1: Sarandon dies and Julia Roberts comes out on top. Maybe
Speaker 1: you are the Julia Roberts in the denomination here.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: But I want to ask Trask, what made of Stelle
Speaker 1: your biggest nemesis. You know, if you knew the power
Speaker 1: of her following, would you have played the relationship that
Speaker 1: you had with Estelle that we saw differently?
Speaker 6: No, I played it. I would play it exactly the same.
Speaker 6: So me and Estelle were so close for the first
Speaker 6: half of the game, so close, like I just got
Speaker 6: along with her so well. I loved her, underdog her
Speaker 6: like me against the world vibe, Like I was like, yes,
Speaker 6: this is it. We were so bloody close and like
Speaker 6: I then I think you saw it. In an early episode,
Speaker 6: Johnson comes to me, He's like, you got to put
Speaker 6: a point on a Stelle. I'm like no, and like
Speaker 6: I get angry at him. I'm like, no, I'm not
Speaker 6: going to put a point in Estelle. She's my she's
Speaker 6: one of my friends. I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 6: Like do whatever you guys need to do, but I'm
Speaker 6: not going to do that. And it was constantly like that.
Speaker 6: I was always like, I'm not putting a point on
Speaker 6: a Stelle to the detriment of my game with the
Speaker 6: newbies really, because they're like, well, you're not working with
Speaker 6: us with her, and she's after all of us. I
Speaker 6: was like, it doesn't matter. I'm with the people I like.
Speaker 6: Then Drew came in and it was Estelle versed true,
Speaker 6: and I was like, well, I've got to get out
Speaker 6: Drew because Estelle's my friend. So I was constantly like
Speaker 6: doing stuff for Estelle. And then halfway through the game,
Speaker 6: I was like, Estelle, look, i know that i'm not
Speaker 6: your number one person. I know that i'm not your
Speaker 6: number two, and I'm pretty sure i'm not even your
Speaker 6: number three. But I don't even know if I'm your
Speaker 6: number six or seven. You've got to give me something.
Speaker 6: And she was like, I don't do hierarchies to us,
Speaker 6: like I don't do. And I'm like, but you do,
Speaker 6: because this is a game where hierarchies. If I'm up
Speaker 6: there with Gabby and Dave, you're going to have to
Speaker 6: put a point on one of us, and you know
Speaker 6: who that is. You've just got to give me something.
Speaker 6: But she would never do it. And I was like, Estelle,
Speaker 6: I can't keep protecting you and holding you up and
Speaker 6: doing things if I'm doing it for no reason, like
Speaker 6: maybe you don't even care about me. And I'd say
Speaker 6: that to her, like I didn't lie or anything. I
Speaker 6: told her. I was like, hey, you've got to tell
Speaker 6: me because I can't keep doing this. So that put
Speaker 6: a thing in our relationship. And then when she voted
Speaker 6: against me to save Drew, and Drew was my nemesis
Speaker 6: because of her, I was like, what the hell is
Speaker 6: going on? And I was I was. I was hurt,
Speaker 6: but I didn't get angry. I was like, what happened.
Speaker 6: She's like, look, I'm sorry, that was a big mistake.
Speaker 6: And sometimes I wonder I'm like I think she only
Speaker 6: thinks it's a mistake because I survived, Like like I
Speaker 6: didn't think she thinks I was. I was going to stay.
Speaker 6: And so from that point I was like, cause shed
Speaker 6: she said, I have you, Torass, I've got you, and
Speaker 6: I was like, well, in my head, I was like,
Speaker 6: well she lied to me. She took the first shot
Speaker 6: and lied. So this is a game where you can lie,
Speaker 6: and so why the hell wouldn't I do it back
Speaker 6: to her? Not maliciously, like at all, but to like,
Speaker 6: let's let's i've got to I've got to get forward.
Speaker 6: And like so I said to her, yeah, I've got you,
Speaker 6: I've got you, and I didn't, and I you know,
Speaker 6: the whole step off challenge thing happened, and I put
Speaker 6: her up and I was She was so angry at me,
Speaker 6: and I was like I remember trying to talk to
Speaker 6: me like a Stelle, like, but you did the same
Speaker 6: to me. Why are you so angry that it happened
Speaker 6: to you? Like don't you get it? She's like, well,
Speaker 6: I didn't lie to you on purpose, like when I
Speaker 6: told you I had you. I was like, yeah, but
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's good enough, Like how do
Speaker 6: I know that, so I think, yeah, that was the
Speaker 6: That's the hard thing about It's such a complicated game,
Speaker 6: complicated relationships, but that's how it happened for me.
Speaker 1: And then Reggie, did you think that you would make
Speaker 1: it this far into the competition, seeing as the competition
Speaker 1: has evolved into being such a strategy, you know, based competition.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 5: I thought the minute I walked in that door, like
Speaker 5: I'd have a big target on my back being a
Speaker 5: previous winner, and I thought, jeez, I'm going to get
Speaker 5: I'm going to go barely so to last and come
Speaker 5: as far as I did. I'm really proud of myself
Speaker 5: because those challenges were so hard and I was never
Speaker 5: going to be a challenge beast threat, that's for sure.
Speaker 5: Oh god. You know, before every challenge, I'd come out
Speaker 5: to the housemates and say, oh, I'm going to win
Speaker 5: one today. I'm going to win this one today, and
Speaker 5: they'd all go, yeah, Rag, yeah, you can do it,
Speaker 5: you can do it. And it would have been good
Speaker 5: to pull one off, but it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Johnson, you really struggled with Arras putting you up for
Speaker 1: nomination a few times. Do you think that he was
Speaker 1: playing a smart game. Now that we all know.
Speaker 2: That you are the favorite newbie in the finale.
Speaker 3: Arras has a heart. And throughout the game, Terrata and
Speaker 3: I got really close as friends, aside from allies as
Speaker 3: friends been On day one, I actually went up to
Speaker 3: him and in the bathroom we had a conversation and
Speaker 3: I'm myself, I was so excited and Taras is this
Speaker 3: very quiet introvert who when I went up to him,
Speaker 3: was just like, WHOA, this is a whole lot of person.
Speaker 3: The second that I felt that from Taras, I knew
Speaker 3: that we were going to be friends. He looked at
Speaker 3: me and he said, I need to learn to speak
Speaker 3: to you. And I said, I need to learn to
Speaker 3: speak to you. And I think it was day six
Speaker 3: them we laid by the pool, believe it or not,
Speaker 3: and we spoke and we got into our lives and
Speaker 3: our experiences and our families and our friends and our
Speaker 3: loved ones, and it went from liking this person to
Speaker 3: loving this person. Terass wasn't nominated for forty days. Then
Speaker 3: when he was, the person that saved him was the
Speaker 3: person that he thought was going to vote him out.
Speaker 3: Everyone was sure with Sugar, I was voting to a
Speaker 3: victor Arras against Drew, but I knew that for my
Speaker 3: game it was better to keep Taras in the game.
Speaker 3: I felt I could feel a shift coming Ben. I
Speaker 3: knew something was going to And not only is that
Speaker 3: like I love for us, he knows I love him.
Speaker 3: But aside from all that, the reason why I was
Speaker 3: frustrated because he tell me I'm not going to nominate you,
Speaker 3: and then he nominate me the one against Alisha. When
Speaker 3: I called him out and I said, are you trying
Speaker 3: to squeeze me out? He said yes. After that, I
Speaker 3: went up to him and I said, good, thank you
Speaker 3: for telling me. I respect you more. Now that's why
Speaker 3: I was okay sitting in the chair, because I wasn't blindsided.
Speaker 3: He told me he was trying to squeeze me out
Speaker 3: by putting Alesha next to me, and by telling me
Speaker 3: and being honest with me, I respect and I love
Speaker 3: him more. That's the sort of person I just want
Speaker 3: you to be. You tell me what you're doing, be upfront,
Speaker 3: don't don't don't tell me you're going to do one
Speaker 3: thing and do another. So when he did, I actually
Speaker 3: hugged him and I said, thank you for telling me.
Speaker 3: So even though he nominated me, and even though I
Speaker 3: was frustrated as f I was most definitely happy that
Speaker 3: he told me the truth.
Speaker 1: I think it's very beautiful of you and your gameplay,
Speaker 1: and maybe this is where the final reward will come
Speaker 1: to you, and that is that your ability to reconcile
Speaker 1: the fact that this game has evolved, This Channel seven
Speaker 1: series now is about strategy, challenges, nominations, all of this,
Speaker 1: but for you to not take it personally and for
Speaker 1: you to go back each time to the original connection
Speaker 1: that you've been able to have with people like to
Speaker 1: Rass and forgive to Ras know that it's a game,
Speaker 1: is a great example of sportsmanship and that's very Australian,
Speaker 1: which I think Ossie audiences will love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ben, look I don't really do sport. I used
Speaker 3: to do a little bit of sport, but then I
Speaker 3: realized I don't know if it's for me or not.
Speaker 3: But yeah, without a doubt, I've only ever played team sports,
Speaker 3: and as a team and as a family, that was
Speaker 3: one thing you forgive and you move on. You move on.
Speaker 3: Life's too short to hold on. Life's too short to hate,
Speaker 3: Life's too short to hold on to ship that could
Speaker 3: ruin your day. I wake up every day and I'm like,
Speaker 3: let's go, let's go suns out. Even if it's raining
Speaker 3: like today in Sydney, it's a great day. It is
Speaker 3: a great day, you know. And I'm so it is
Speaker 3: the strain way to forgive move on and people love
Speaker 3: good sportsmanship, and that's what I'm about.
Speaker 1: I think good sportsmanship is a key here. You know, Reggie,
Speaker 1: when you think about coming back to Big Brother, one
Speaker 1: of the most celebrated contestants of all time, you think
Speaker 1: that Australia would just be so excited that knowing that
Speaker 1: you've got a few disabilities and you've had a few
Speaker 1: hardships that you've been to get up and get in
Speaker 1: there and do those challenges. How hard is it to
Speaker 1: be able to see that there has been some negativity
Speaker 1: towards you online.
Speaker 5: Oh there's a lot. There's a lot of lot, but
Speaker 5: there's also a lot of hate from yeah. And it's
Speaker 5: bizarre because you know, I've got this eye disease. I'm
Speaker 5: legally blind. You know, I got nine degrees what is it,
Speaker 5: nine degrees of pinhole vision left. I don't have caeripheral
Speaker 5: or night vision, so how you know, and it's like
Speaker 5: looking through a straw, and you would have thought I
Speaker 5: would have thought that, you know, people will be more
Speaker 5: uplifting than the negatives. So just saying I'm fake, I'm
Speaker 5: faking my eye disease. She's not blind. She's only in
Speaker 5: there for a sympathy, you know. And I'm like, man,
Speaker 5: I never once, never, once did I ever want sympathy
Speaker 5: or played a sympathy card. And one of our big
Speaker 5: inspirations also been going into the house. Before going into
Speaker 5: I just watched the Paralympics and I'm like, these guys
Speaker 5: are just unbelievable and I'm looking at them going if
Speaker 5: they can do this, I can do this. And that's
Speaker 5: how I had in my head. I've got to think
Speaker 5: of these amazing athletes who get out there and have
Speaker 5: a go, and I think I can do this, and
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 1: I think if you went into the house and then
Speaker 1: you were saying, oh, I can't do this and I
Speaker 1: can't do that, then that would be different. But the
Speaker 1: way I saw it was, you know, the whole way
Speaker 1: through the series, you had this amazing can do attitude
Speaker 1: and that you were putting yourself out there, and I
Speaker 1: think that there's something more beautiful in that than anything
Speaker 1: negative that anyone could say, you.
Speaker 5: Know, yeah, yeah, it is weird. It's instead of you know,
Speaker 5: lifting someone up who does have a disability, that they
Speaker 5: wanted to bring me down. So it's weird people's train
Speaker 5: of thought, you know, if even even seeing comments like
Speaker 5: having to go with Big Brothers saying oh they should
Speaker 5: have they should have had more challenges to suit Regie's disability.
Speaker 5: But deep in inside, like at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: I probably wouldn't have wanted that, Ben, because that's not me.
Speaker 5: I'm here, I've been asked to come back, and I
Speaker 5: don't expect to be treated any differently to any of
Speaker 5: the housemates. So a lot of the challenge were I
Speaker 5: was up against so much my heart would sink every
Speaker 5: time walking into the yard, I just go, oh, you know,
Speaker 5: like my god, how and earth am I going to
Speaker 5: get through this? How am I going to do this?
Speaker 5: But I nearly pulled off a few there. I was
Speaker 5: good at the hell hanging challenges and but also Ben,
Speaker 5: I was injured the whole way through the show. I
Speaker 5: was injured from week one to do I walked out
Speaker 5: that door, so people didn't see that as well. So
Speaker 5: I battled through a lot of being injured. Like I
Speaker 5: rolled my ankle the first week in the house trying
Speaker 5: to hide a bag of apples because we had no food.
Speaker 5: And then and then I and then I fell on
Speaker 5: the hanging There was a hanging challenge where I fell,
Speaker 5: and when I fell, I think I knocked myself out.
Speaker 5: For a minute, I didn't realize Trevor was looking over me. Reggie, Reggie,
Speaker 5: You're okay. And from that I got whiplash and all
Speaker 5: my back hurt, my back I had to sit out medically.
Speaker 5: I was exempt from the next challenge because of having whiplash.
Speaker 5: And then I tore my car my quad in a
Speaker 5: food challenge running in the house. Then I toare but yeah,
Speaker 5: then I tore the other one letting go when we're
Speaker 5: on top of the big slide, and I was so
Speaker 5: to let go because I didn't know how high upa
Speaker 5: was and I ripped both my yeah quads. So I
Speaker 5: was Yeah, I was injured the whole way through.
Speaker 2: But that is a long list of injuries.
Speaker 1: My friend, Oh my god, you need the two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars just to pay for your medical bills.
Speaker 5: Oh, I know, I've been having a lot of physiotherapy
Speaker 5: to try and get my legs back together again. I'll
Speaker 5: tell you.
Speaker 1: I think in some ways though, people have been talking
Speaker 1: about the challenges and having more diverse challenges and varieties
Speaker 1: of challenges playing into different people's skill sets on both
Speaker 1: Survivor and Big Brother for a very long time, you know,
Speaker 1: So that commentary that they need to sort of have
Speaker 1: more fair challenges that plan to different people's skill set,
Speaker 1: that conversation's been around for a while.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, look, it would have been It would have
Speaker 5: been good to maybe do one challenge, you know, put
Speaker 5: a pair of glasses on the guys and just cut
Speaker 5: out some pinholes and just like to give them some
Speaker 5: perspective of what I could see. So that would have
Speaker 5: been good if they did at least one to give
Speaker 5: the guys some understanding of what I actually see.
Speaker 1: How did you see it, Terras? Did you think there
Speaker 1: was challenges that were unfair at times on Reggie? I mean,
Speaker 1: do you think that we need to see more balance
Speaker 1: in challenges, not just because of Reggie being there and
Speaker 1: her having that disability, but do you think that the
Speaker 1: strongest should always have the advantage in the game.
Speaker 6: No, I think that I wish that there were more challenges.
Speaker 6: This is coming from someone who won a lot of
Speaker 6: I wish there were a lot more puzzle challenges or
Speaker 6: things that weren't just strength based. I mean a lot
Speaker 6: of the strength based ones are weight based. So if
Speaker 6: you're a small fit girl, that's always good because you
Speaker 6: got less weight more of a chance to win, like
Speaker 6: Tilly did in last season. But I do think there
Speaker 6: should have been a lot more puzzle sort of stuff
Speaker 6: and yeah, at least something that would it would have
Speaker 6: been cool to have something that didn't require sight that
Speaker 6: could really like I would have loved that. I mean, look,
Speaker 6: the thing is, Reggie fucking gave it all she could.
Speaker 6: And sorry for swearing so much, she gave everything she could.
Speaker 6: She is nearly I think she's what forties something, yeah,
Speaker 6: like in her late forties. So generally women of that
Speaker 6: age that aren't like, you know, fitness beasts, they normally
Speaker 6: don't do well in challenges anyway. Generally I'm generalizing, but
Speaker 6: I would have loved to have seen something that took
Speaker 6: more into account that aspect because it would have been
Speaker 6: so cool and it would have been like good for
Speaker 6: Australia to see like look, let's see how much how
Speaker 6: well Reggie can do at something that doesn't require sight.
Speaker 6: Do you know what I mean? That's some sort of
Speaker 6: like feeling puzzle or I don't know anything, but yeah,
Speaker 6: I totally wish there were more less strength based or
Speaker 6: fitness based or physically based ones. We've only seen really
Speaker 6: one puzzle, really, haven't we?
Speaker 1: With all the comment roundline, what's the most outrageous thing
Speaker 1: that you've read about yourself? I had Julie Goodwen on
Speaker 1: the chat yesterday and Julie was chatting to me about
Speaker 1: the most outrageous thing Because you and Julie are both
Speaker 1: Australian TV royalty when it comes to reality television, You've
Speaker 1: been around for so long, so not just this season
Speaker 1: but overall. What has been the most outrageous thing that
Speaker 1: you've read about yourself online?
Speaker 5: Oh? I guess it is. I mean there's a lot.
Speaker 5: I've got one certain troll that's trolling me on Twitter.
Speaker 5: She has not stopped. Like it's just I've been so
Speaker 5: tempted to say something that I haven't. But yeah, I
Speaker 5: think it's the whole that it is. I'm faking my
Speaker 5: blindness and I need to change the perception of blindness bend.
Speaker 5: People have a perception that you've got to wear the
Speaker 5: big black, thick glasses and you've got to have the
Speaker 5: cane and your guide dog and you can't do anything.
Speaker 5: You know, It's not like that at all. People have
Speaker 5: all different kinds of vision impairment, but they still get
Speaker 5: out there and they can do stuff. I just don't
Speaker 5: know why people think because you're blind, that you have
Speaker 5: to sit at home on your bum and not live life.
Speaker 5: I'll get out there and make the most alive and
Speaker 5: make the most of my little nine degrees that I
Speaker 5: have left. I don't take for granted anything for granted
Speaker 5: at all.
Speaker 2: No, And you're a go getter as well. I mean
Speaker 2: you literally.
Speaker 1: If I'm up on the Gold Coast and send a
Speaker 1: message to you to be like, hey, do you want
Speaker 1: to catch up for a drink or do you go
Speaker 1: out for dinner, You're always like I'm on a walk,
Speaker 1: or I'm picking up the kids like you know, or
Speaker 1: I'm down having a drink with my mates. Like you're
Speaker 1: You've you've got a real thirst for life, even though
Speaker 1: you have been dished with a fair amount of hardship.
Speaker 5: Ah yeah, yeah, been like years ago. You know, I
Speaker 5: went through my depression when I had to handle my
Speaker 5: driver's license and that took away all my independence. I
Speaker 5: was just devastated. And Lucas's illness, you know, when he
Speaker 5: was born being diagnosed with cystic pibrosis. I went through
Speaker 5: about two years of real bad depression and I pulled
Speaker 5: myself out of it and I went, you know what,
Speaker 5: I can't do anything about this, but just keep on going.
Speaker 5: I have to keep on going. So that's that's my attitude.
Speaker 5: Keep on keeping on and just don't don't give in
Speaker 5: to those demons that crawl into your head.
Speaker 1: That's a good message for everyone Rench, you know, Johnson,
Speaker 1: getting back to you, we saw Marley and Chad both
Speaker 1: run a very successful campaign by saying that their families
Speaker 1: loved Big Brother. Do you think in any way that
Speaker 1: you've followed their lead? You know, have you cracked the
Speaker 1: Big Brother winners code on how to win this show?
Speaker 3: Oh? Great you. Chad and Marley were incredible in their seasons,
Speaker 3: but cracking the Big Brother code. I don't think there
Speaker 3: is a Big Brother code to crack. I think they
Speaker 3: were just themselves. You know, Chad, Chad's family, you know,
Speaker 3: he was a fan of the show who was doing
Speaker 3: it for a for his fan. Marley was doing it
Speaker 3: for his family and you know his late mother. So
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a massive fan of the show. I
Speaker 3: am doing it for myself and for my family, but
Speaker 3: I do everything for myself. My family in the house
Speaker 3: non stop. Did I say as a family, you lose together,
Speaker 3: but you win together? And in saying that, before the
Speaker 3: show started, I made a commitment to my brother that
Speaker 3: if I were to win, I'm giving half the money
Speaker 3: to him. That's without even knowing that I was going
Speaker 3: to make the three. So if there's if there's a
Speaker 3: code to be crack, give me the pin, because I'm
Speaker 3: going up against two powerhouses, but it does a code
Speaker 3: to be crack, give me the pin.
Speaker 1: As we approach the finale, though, there are some really
Speaker 1: important questions that I want to ask the three finalists.
Speaker 1: Do you think that strategy and the strategic gameplay that
Speaker 1: Terrass has played, do you think he can be rewarded
Speaker 1: to win the finale?
Speaker 5: He was a big strategy player, and I'm not sure
Speaker 5: the way that the public are looking at it like that.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, they see Terrests as a snake
Speaker 5: and a liar, and you know, and he's done whatever
Speaker 5: you can to get to the end. We've all done
Speaker 5: what we had to do to get to the end.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I'm not sure whether Australia is going to
Speaker 5: go for the super fan, the strategic liar, or me
Speaker 5: who's played a honest game.
Speaker 2: Do you think that Reggie?
Speaker 1: Do you think that Australia might think that Reggie has
Speaker 1: won before and they may not give her the money
Speaker 1: again because they feel like she's already won.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they may, Yeah, they may, definitely they may. I
Speaker 3: mean on social media you get all sorts of commentary
Speaker 3: and I and I have seen that come through. I
Speaker 3: have seen she's had her time. Let the newbies they've
Speaker 3: had their time. The ogs, particularly those who have won,
Speaker 3: they might see it from that perspective. And if that's
Speaker 3: your opinion, well, look at it as a game. Look
Speaker 3: at it as a game. It's a new game, it's
Speaker 3: an evolving game, and it's going to change.
Speaker 1: Ben again, it is a game and it is evolving.
Speaker 1: So you are right to Russ. Do you have a
Speaker 1: clapback for Reggie? How do I ask this? Do you
Speaker 1: think that your strategy game can be rewarded? I think
Speaker 1: that's the best question for you at this point, Like
Speaker 1: the three of you are in the finale. Your thing
Speaker 1: that we're gonna love you for is strategy. Do you
Speaker 1: think that that's gonna be rewarded in the finale?
Speaker 6: I honestly, and it doesn't feel like it from what
Speaker 6: like social media and stuff like that. But you know what,
Speaker 6: if there's enough people behind the keyboards that aren't saying
Speaker 6: things that vote for me, maybe there will be, do
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Like a lot of young
Speaker 6: people understand that this is a game they've watched. They're
Speaker 6: not There's not just the boomers who are the worst.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, there's so much hate from old Grandma
Speaker 6: Jenny and like Grandpa Johnny, like calling me a wenker.
Speaker 6: Like maybe the kids understand that more. I don't know
Speaker 6: if it's going to be whatever the word is. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's going to be acknowledged. And
Speaker 6: you know what, that is part of the game as well.
Speaker 6: I guess like I brought Red to the end, so
Speaker 6: and I did that on purpose, and so it might
Speaker 6: not pay off. It very likely won't pay off. But
Speaker 6: if you want to vote for me, I'd be so
Speaker 6: happy if you do do you.
Speaker 1: Think the Johnson's been given an edit that will endear
Speaker 1: him defense being the super fan status?
Speaker 2: Is that going to be a really hard thing to beat?
Speaker 6: Totally? I was so depressed on that last day because
Speaker 6: my heart was like, you've got to bring Johnson and
Speaker 6: Reggie to the end, and they are. I felt like
Speaker 6: they're like, it's just either one of them would probably
Speaker 6: beat me, and now I've got both of them like
Speaker 6: up there with me. And it was my choice. But
Speaker 6: I don't regret it either. I actually don't regret it
Speaker 6: at all.
Speaker 1: Well, they have very interesting answers from everybody. It's a
Speaker 1: very interesting final three and I just want to say
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for coming on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I have been asking everyone who's joined Gretel Colleen's top
Speaker 1: ten questions. Now, Gretel Colleen would normally ask these questions
Speaker 1: after you've been evicted, so this is a little bit strange.
Speaker 1: We won't go into all of them, but just give
Speaker 1: us the answer. What did you miss the most wire
Speaker 1: inside the Big Brother House?
Speaker 6: Chocolate. I want chocolate all the time.
Speaker 5: I missed my kids the most, my family.
Speaker 2: Who was your favorite housemate?
Speaker 5: My favorite housemate was Daved, Tim and the Stelle.
Speaker 2: You've got to pick one three, I'll.
Speaker 5: Do your own.
Speaker 3: Dave.
Speaker 5: Dave was my rock. Who was my rock?
Speaker 6: I loved jc Man. I loved Jc like we there's
Speaker 6: just this two weeks where we just me and him
Speaker 6: were just like, Oh, I love him.
Speaker 3: Alisha Marie Campbell.
Speaker 2: Who was your least favorite person?
Speaker 3: Alara, Alisha least favorite person? Oh? Oh, tough fun Probably
Speaker 3: in the game, probably Espelle, but outside love her?
Speaker 2: Who was Oh who had the most annoying habit?
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, okay, Gabby? Gabby was messy as yes, extremely messy, Gabby.
Speaker 3: Pick up after yourself.
Speaker 2: Who was the funniest person in the house?
Speaker 5: From his person? Tim was quite funny. I found Tim.
Speaker 5: He was entertaining. He was entertaining to watch in there.
Speaker 2: Was he anything like what you expected?
Speaker 1: You know, you'd watched him on the series before and
Speaker 1: you'd met him before doing the show.
Speaker 2: But was he anything like what you expected?
Speaker 5: M Yeah, I think Tim was pretty much who he
Speaker 5: was back in two thousand and thirteen. So I loved it.
Speaker 5: I love being in there with him.
Speaker 3: Tim Dormer every day.
Speaker 2: Who was the laziest person in the house.
Speaker 6: Laziest person in the house. Definitely Alisha or Gabby, one
Speaker 6: of those two so.
Speaker 5: Lazy, laziest. Oh god, that's got to come down to
Speaker 5: a Leisha.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gabby by far. But JC, I think reconciled by
Speaker 3: making a really good chicken curry.
Speaker 2: What is your greatest regret?
Speaker 3: Oh? I should have lost twenty killers before going in.
Speaker 5: Oh great, it's regret. Oh who oh gosh.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 5: There was a challenge when I had I could have
Speaker 5: got a video call from the kids, and I was
Speaker 5: up against j C, and JC ended up taking that
Speaker 5: challenge and he saw his mum on the screen, So
Speaker 5: I really regretted not taking that video call.
Speaker 6: It's so hard because all your regrets, like they bring
Speaker 6: you there as well, all the mistakes you make bring
Speaker 6: you to the end. I think my biggest regret was
Speaker 6: when me and Dave Dave like sort of threw me
Speaker 6: under the bus at one point with Tully me. It
Speaker 6: was the Tim and Tim and Dave thing where Tully
Speaker 6: was going to be put up for a viction, but
Speaker 6: I was also part of that, and Dave's threw me
Speaker 6: under the bus and was like I didn't have anything
Speaker 6: to do with it. It was tarassent. Tim's ideas sort
Speaker 6: of and I was like, Dave, what are you doing?
Speaker 6: Like this is fucked And I was like, well, I'm
Speaker 6: going to put a point on him, like a nomination point.
Speaker 6: But I didn't tell him that I was going to
Speaker 6: do that, and we had a deal that we wouldn't
Speaker 6: do that. And he's like, did you put a point
Speaker 6: of me? I'm like, yeah, bro, of course I did.
Speaker 6: He's like, but we had a deal. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 6: but you you fucked me up. You threw me under
Speaker 6: the bus. And I think that was my biggest regret
Speaker 6: that I was like, yep, I was too weak to
Speaker 6: tell him like before that I did it, that I
Speaker 6: was going to do it. That's a big regret of
Speaker 6: h Yeah.
Speaker 2: Too late to say it straight.
Speaker 1: Who do you think is going to come third out
Speaker 1: of the competition? Not who's going to come first and second,
Speaker 1: but who do you think will be third?
Speaker 3: To rest.
Speaker 6: Umm t I would say me, I'd be number three.
Speaker 6: I'd be number three.
Speaker 1: And who do you think will win? Do you think
Speaker 1: that Johnson's going to win or do you think you
Speaker 1: will you will win?
Speaker 5: I'm not real confident. I think maybe Johnson may have
Speaker 5: this in the bag.
Speaker 1: Have you asked him what he's going to spend the
Speaker 1: money on. Have you given him any have you conversations offline?
Speaker 5: No, I haven't at all. No, But when he was
Speaker 5: in the house, he was saying that he wanted it
Speaker 5: to give to his family, his brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: but I'd like to know. I'd like to be super
Speaker 5: confident then, but I'm not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm I'm oh no, that could be.
Speaker 5: That could be a bad thing to be that.
Speaker 1: Way, Johnson, What about you? Who do you think it's
Speaker 1: going to be? Do you think it's going to be you?
Speaker 1: Reggie tarras me, Okay, that's an answer. I always love
Speaker 1: asking those questions. I've got to tell you, Johnson, I
Speaker 1: need you to wrap this up for me, because I
Speaker 1: know you will have a good one. Everyone who joins
Speaker 1: the podcast tells a story from behind the scenes of
Speaker 1: Big Brother. Something we didn't see, something that we won't see,
Speaker 1: something that we're as super fans would enjoy. From your
Speaker 1: time in the Big Brother House.
Speaker 3: There was a big spa mankey spa session that no
Speaker 3: one got to see. There was about thirteen of us
Speaker 3: in there. This is my favorite moment in the house.
Speaker 3: Ben thirteen or fourteen of us in the spot it
Speaker 3: got mankey. There was only about this this much water,
Speaker 3: maybe a hundred miles of water left the bottom for
Speaker 3: the time we all got in and it was the
Speaker 3: night in the Big Brother house to date. You didn't
Speaker 3: get to say it was just you know what it was.
Speaker 3: It actually took it took us back to the original
Speaker 3: Big Brother, that's what. It took us back to the
Speaker 3: original Big Brother. The laugh, the banter, the chit chat.
Speaker 3: That's the best part. The shit chat, like just the
Speaker 3: funny banter and just having a laugh. That was my
Speaker 3: favorite moment.
Speaker 1: I can't thank you guys enough for being able to
Speaker 1: take the time and unpack this. It's a very stressful time,
Speaker 1: so you know a lot of these questions can be
Speaker 1: very unnerving. But I think you've done a great job
Speaker 1: in summarizing what is going to be in people's minds
Speaker 1: in Australia while they work out who to vote for.
Speaker 1: If you like to vote, head to ww dot Big
Speaker 1: Brother dot com dot AU. You can only vote once,
Speaker 1: which is attached to your email address. We will have
Speaker 1: a winner crowned by Tuesday night, and I for one,
Speaker 1: am very excited for the three of you. You've played
Speaker 1: a brilliant game and like Australia, we will always be
Speaker 1: in your audience.