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Speaker 1: The Will and Woody podcast that bite sized.

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Speaker 2: We are joined by the man, the myth, the legend

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Speaker 2: that is Jimmy Bye.

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Speaker 1: So you're a zoom pro. We should let people know

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Speaker 1: we are looking at you through zoom and we've been

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Speaker 1: doing this all week, but no guest has ever offered

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Speaker 1: to put headphones on, because they understand.

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Speaker 3: It makes the better. I bring my own mic, so

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Speaker 3: I do have it, and I'm good at this. You

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Speaker 3: know what? You know what can I just I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you the truth. My kids are really good at this.

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Speaker 1: My kids are my text, you and everybody else in Australia.

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Speaker 3: I know exactly she's speaking of your kids.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy. I'm not sure if you know this, but as

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Speaker 2: just mentioned this before, she actually hooked up with your

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Speaker 2: son Jackie.

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Speaker 4: It was not a hook up.

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Speaker 1: It was a kiss at the entertainment corner when I

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Speaker 1: was about thirteen years old.

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Speaker 4: Really, I'm gonna tell you he's a good looking young fellow.

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Speaker 3: Now then, yeah, he's really is a really good fellow.

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Speaker 3: So that's good. I'm sure I'll go up remind him.

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Speaker 3: Would please?

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Speaker 2: Would you have been happy with Jackie bringing ash USh home?

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Speaker 4: Jimmy, Absolutely, Jackie's happy I'm happy.

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Speaker 3: Hey, georgeous, problem we should talk about your music.

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Speaker 2: Got a new album, Sold Deep thirty which is out now.

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Speaker 2: If you want tickets to your tour, then head to

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Speaker 2: Frontier Touring dot com Forward Slash Jimmy Barnes. But Jimmy,

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Speaker 2: it's a re release of the album that was released

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Speaker 2: thirty years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sort of sort of a celebration, you know.

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Speaker 4: It was one of those things where we made this record,

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Speaker 4: you know, nineteen ninety one over it was, and then

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Speaker 4: it was it was just something to do of a

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Speaker 4: Christmas a bit of fun, and I think that spirit

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Speaker 4: of just having fun we did at my host you know,

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Speaker 4: with my studio and the house and where we just

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Speaker 4: a ball recording and then we thought, oh well, might

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 3: Put it out. Weren't sure what I was going to do.

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Speaker 4: End up being the biggest record I've ever had, and

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Speaker 4: it's also the biggest record on Mushrooms catalog ever. So

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Speaker 4: it show shows you the quality of a good song,

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Speaker 4: and you know, if you approach things of the way attitude,

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Speaker 4: you'll do well. So we wanted to, you know, thirty

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Speaker 4: years down the track, we just wanted to sort of

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Speaker 4: go back and you know, celebrate because it was a

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Speaker 4: pivotal point in my career, not only just because it

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Speaker 4: sold so many and it changed the way a tour,

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Speaker 4: but also just because it was me revisiting the all

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Speaker 4: the singers.

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Speaker 3: That I grew up seeing to as a young fella.

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Speaker 4: So every few years I go back and sort of

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Speaker 4: revisit the well sort of thing, you know, so I

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Speaker 4: can top up and learns of new things, well.

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Speaker 1: Being one of being your best selling album. Some of

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Speaker 1: it's really ingrained in Australian musical culture.

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Speaker 4: Weird question, but.

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Speaker 1: I've always wondered this. I understand that there's appra rye

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Speaker 1: and they take care of like the song rights and royalties.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, how does it How do you keep getting

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Speaker 3: paid for that? Do you get an email or a

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Speaker 3: lesson account, a bank statement? No? No, no, you got

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Speaker 4: You know, you know, you've got people who collect writers

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Speaker 4: rule and you've got record companies collecting for you and

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Speaker 4: management and all that sort of stuff. It's very above board.

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Speaker 4: You know, some some some territories around the world could

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Speaker 4: be a little dodgy, but you need good business people. Yeah, Luckily,

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Speaker 4: I've always had the good business people, so I'm very lucky.

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Speaker 4: But because I'm I'm one of those people who likes

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Speaker 4: to just sort of I just go, can you do it?

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Speaker 3: I want to get you know, the same, you know,

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Speaker 4: Like, oh, you know, I want you to be involved

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Speaker 4: of there, said, not a chance, you know, I'm just

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Speaker 4: if I'm going to be eating bugs at someone terms,

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Speaker 3: But I'm not a celebrity. I'm a literally, I'm a

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Speaker 3: rock and roll singer. And I think there's horses for courses.

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Speaker 4: If you put good teams together, that's all covered absolutely. Man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't send myself ever dealing with royalties

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Speaker 2: because I can't send myself having a hit song. But

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Barnes, you bleed these hit songs, my friend, and

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Speaker 2: there's going to be more of you.

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Speaker 3: Right up next on Will and Woody.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Barnes is on the Yes, June Barnes and you

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Speaker 2: are here to promote your new album, Soul Deep thirty,

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Speaker 2: which is actually thirty years since you released the album

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Speaker 2: Soul Deep. And thirty years is such an interesting amount

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Speaker 2: of years. Jimmy Barnes, like, what's the main difference between

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Speaker 2: you now and you thirty years ago?

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Speaker 4: Oh, Jesus, that's a lot of things, a lot of differences.

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Speaker 4: I was a bit wild, you know. I'll tell you

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Speaker 4: what you know if you go back to when I

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Speaker 4: at that point in my life is when I unpacked

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Speaker 4: a lot of baggage. As thirty years ago, I was

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Speaker 4: singing soul music. But what would happen is I'd be

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Speaker 3: And and so I'd be you know, you could see

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Speaker 4: You know, I was a little worse for aware, a

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Speaker 4: little here, a little emotional. But these you know, so

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Speaker 4: still go to those emotions, but I can go to

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Speaker 4: I think that's how you can say that about everything.

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Speaker 4: Really before I was never in control of it, especially myself.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I loved watching, especially throughout COVID

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Speaker 1: when you know life is so shitty for all of us,

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Speaker 4: No, they've always done it, you know. I mean I

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Speaker 4: remember recording Soul Deeper in Los Angeles. Jackie Barnes was

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Speaker 4: the best drummers in history plaid on What's going on

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Speaker 4: that my kids have always has always sang in my

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Speaker 4: been every time I found that all the family are

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Speaker 3: We're all musicians and we're all singers, and so we.

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Speaker 4: Get together and invariably at any point in the night

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Speaker 4: someone's going to be singing playing a guitar. In fact,

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Speaker 4: some people come in and can they get shut up

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Speaker 4: for a minute. I don't sing too much because I

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Speaker 4: sing really loud. You know, I'm a really so if

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Speaker 4: I've seen too much, I'll really drive. I'll drive the

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Speaker 4: nags wild. And I know you and I live on

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: There's a YouTube video, by the way, Jimmy, just speaking

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Speaker 2: video and I'm just going to read the title. It's

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Speaker 3: Here's a I know that, I know that that you

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Speaker 3: know the Karen Jay Caleener. No, I'll tell you what happened. Karen.

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Speaker 4: I've worked for nearly fifty years and we have done

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Speaker 4: And they said, he said, oh, will you will you

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Speaker 3: And I said, what do you want? You said, literally,

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Speaker 4: He sent me this little section of a song and

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Speaker 4: Next thing I know, that had like ten million hits.

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Speaker 4: You know, suddenly I was the guy in the sky

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Speaker 3: You know it for you through it opened, but it

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Speaker 4: You know, you try, you try and have it and

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Speaker 4: then then you're just going to shriek it out. Now

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Speaker 4: you know you're great that I love.

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Speaker 1: The life is still full of surprises. Even after thirty years,

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Speaker 1: this life can still surprise you and serve up we

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and go back to the lockdown songs.

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Speaker 4: What happened was James just my wife was very sort of.

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Speaker 4: She likes to get things done, and she the lockdown,

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Speaker 4: We're all gonna be lockdown. And she said, well, let's

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Speaker 4: not waste our time. Let's I'm gonna learn guitar and

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Speaker 4: I said, okay. She'd learn a really great song, said

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Speaker 4: could you sing it? And so I ended up singing.

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Speaker 4: I think we did nearly three hundred songs. I've a

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Speaker 4: lockdown and it was everything, literally, everything from Metallica to

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Speaker 4: Doris Date. You know, if you'd have told me thirty

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Speaker 4: years ago I was going to be singing Dorist songs,

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Speaker 4: I would have slapped.

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Speaker 2: Such a talented family. Why can't you even normal and

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Speaker 2: just get drunk and watch Netflix like the rest of us.

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Speaker 2: There was a bit of that toos balance. Oh, Jimmy, mate,

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Speaker 2: I could talk to you all day, my friend, but

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Speaker 2: unfortunately we can't. But go and get his new album

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Speaker 2: sold Deep thirty. It is out now and if you

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Speaker 2: want tickets to go and see the Great Man Frontier

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Speaker 2: touring dot Com Forward Slash Jimmy Barnes, Jimmy, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Matty, It's nice to talk to you guys all

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Speaker 3: the best.

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Speaker 1: Now you're done with that, Why not check out more

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