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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this

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<v Speaker 1>episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay

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<v Speaker 1>our respects to elders past, present and emerging and extend

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<v Speaker 1>that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.

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<v Speaker 1>Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Rise and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where we

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<v Speaker 1>ch have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self

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<v Speaker 1>mix soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes of my life running two businesses and being among

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<v Speaker 1>Think of us as the perfect combo of brunch with

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<v Speaker 1>your besties mixed with self development. No matter where you

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<v Speaker 1>are in your journey, we're here to help you be curious,

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<v Speaker 1>pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to get into the driver's seat of your own

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<v Speaker 1>life and stop letting life pass you by, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the right place. Hey everyone, welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>rn C Potty. Today is the third episode of our

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<v Speaker 1>behind the bis series and we have the NH Head

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<v Speaker 1>of Creative Head of Design Mikayla with us today. So

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<v Speaker 1>Nick actually does the graphic design for NH rn C

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes some of my content to be honest, like

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<v Speaker 1>she really wears all the hats. She also is like

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<v Speaker 1>a photographer, does all our videography. She is a jack

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<v Speaker 1>of all trades and she's fucking amazing. She's really really good.

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<v Speaker 1>She's I love Mick because she is such a mix

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<v Speaker 1>of a creative where she has the most creative ideas, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, the guys, the assets and the creators

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<v Speaker 1>for this campaign, like I cannot and that's all Mick, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no direction there. I just like let her run

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<v Speaker 1>and do her thing and it's incredible. But also she

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<v Speaker 1>is a mix of she knows how to be a lead.

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<v Speaker 1>She knows how to because sometimes creatives can get a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit like too creative and they don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to execute. With mix, like, she's creative, but she also

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<v Speaker 1>knows how to execute. And I think that combo magic,

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<v Speaker 1>bloody magic. So if you're a creative gal, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely love this episode. We chat about graphic design, designing

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<v Speaker 1>for a product versut social media, her creative process and

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<v Speaker 1>how she gets into that creative process, and also just

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<v Speaker 1>like some tips of the trade. So, oh my god, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>when this episode goes live, my collection is going live today,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're listening in real time, Jesus, get on that,

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<v Speaker 1>Get on that. I cannot stress limited edition one drop

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<v Speaker 1>we have got, like we're so sad. I know we

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<v Speaker 1>have got a good amount. So it's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see this selling out in the first hour or anything

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<v Speaker 1>crazy like that, because it's like, we literally will not

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<v Speaker 1>be restocking this. I cannot stress this enough. So the

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<v Speaker 1>pre workout is mango passion fruit fucking unreal. Tastes like

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<v Speaker 1>a holiday, tropical holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it so much. I had it for my

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon workout once and fully sacrificed my fleep. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like a Friday, so I never work.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day. It's fine, so delicious, it's good. It'sast

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<v Speaker 1>that good piso the soft drink, Oh yeah, don't you reckon,

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<v Speaker 1>You're as sweet. No, but like I'm getting piscito vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>And the protein is caramelk. Fuck white chocolate caramel se

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<v Speaker 1>white chocolate caramel swell. We couldn't call it caramelk because

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<v Speaker 1>the legal reasons. ME says caramel all over these podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, I don't give a fuck, but also

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<v Speaker 1>don't sell me. I love you, Capri, please sir us,

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<v Speaker 1>please do a collapse that would actually be gold. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say that would pop off, that would pop off.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is white chocolate. Swell, caramel swell. Yep, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's caramel. Holy shit, guys, this has got to be

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<v Speaker 1>the best protein we've ever made. I'm just gonna say it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say I have every single morning and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's, oh my god, it's incredible. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to stress this won't be back. So if

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<v Speaker 1>those flavors are your thing, which they are, everyone's get

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<v Speaker 1>onto it. So early access will be on the Naked

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<v Speaker 1>Harvest app at eleven am Australian needs to standard time,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're like, oh my god, I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>get in, or if that's just like a better time

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<v Speaker 1>for you to purchase, get on the nh app and

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<v Speaker 1>then the collection will be available on the website at

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<v Speaker 1>one pm. Australian needs to standard time today. So god,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. So much love and creation has gone into

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<v Speaker 1>this collection and it's just like it's just really cool because,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've said in the previous episodes, I have just

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<v Speaker 1>felt such a like fire with you know, this collection

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<v Speaker 1>and being so heavily involved in the creatives and so

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<v Speaker 1>heavily involved in the messaging. And it's really cool because

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<v Speaker 1>I've really brought like my two favorite things together. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've brought you know, naked harvest natural supplements without the crap.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus the whole campaign is seven Rules to be your

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<v Speaker 1>Own Best Friend, which is like, that's so iron c

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<v Speaker 1>It's so I've just I've brought like the two things

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<v Speaker 1>I love together in this collaboration. So much love has

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<v Speaker 1>gone into it, so I hope you guys love it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had so much fun putting it together, so much

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<v Speaker 1>fun doing this serious to hate. I know, it's the best.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I just learned so much, even though

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in the office for a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, whoa, you're welcome. Well, it is cool because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you don't usually ask your colleagues Cy's question. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely happen to ask them the nitty gritty of

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<v Speaker 1>their job. Yeah, so it's really cool, guys. I really

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<v Speaker 1>am excited to bring you this episode. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to grab the collection, it is live today. But

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<v Speaker 1>also we're doing a little swap, so I know we

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<v Speaker 1>usually do recommendations on Friday and then tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>our week on Tuesday. We're doing a little swap. So

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<v Speaker 1>today we're doing recommendations, and on Friday we'll be doing

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<v Speaker 1>a little update on our week. That was it just

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna suit us better for recording. You didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>need to know the deligious. But I'll tell you a

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<v Speaker 1>tear is just like shut up, so a tea. What

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<v Speaker 1>is your recommendation for this week?

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<v Speaker 2>My recommendation, She's back to the Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>She's always been the Netflix. I like some other things

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<v Speaker 1>in there should sponsor us. They should, they really should.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a walking, talking Netflix recommendation. I'm recommending Next in

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<v Speaker 1>Fashion on Netflix season two. It's basically like they have

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<v Speaker 1>all these designers. Is that what the model GG hadid?

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<v Speaker 1>Is she hosting? Yeah? It's amazing, is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I've only watched season two. I haven't watched season one.

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<v Speaker 2>I just watched season two because GG isn't it? And

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<v Speaker 2>they have these designers and they basically get a task

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<v Speaker 2>like you need to create a look for the met Gala,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they have like a couple of hours or

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<v Speaker 2>like a day and a half to design a runway

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<v Speaker 2>ready look that a model then has to go down,

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<v Speaker 2>and just watching their creative process has blown my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>And even just like the ins and outs of like

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<v Speaker 2>fitting to a model because they don't know what size

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<v Speaker 2>model they'll get, so they're like making half the outfit,

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<v Speaker 2>getting the model and then fitting it to them and

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<v Speaker 2>all that sort of stuff. And they have like Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Televisaci's a co judge in the first episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's of asace.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know anyway, such a good show. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>a really good watch. Yeah I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that, like I saw shorts and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>GG and was like, oh yeah, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not usually into those shows neither.

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<v Speaker 2>Of If it was for me, no, I'm not normally

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<v Speaker 2>you would like it. I reckon you would because I've

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<v Speaker 2>been really off reality TV at the moment. But I

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed this, and I enjoyed how established the designers were

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<v Speaker 2>pre this show, Like some of them are full time designers.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the ladies has dressed Lizzo, another one had

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<v Speaker 2>dressed j Lo. Like they're not just your average person.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them are self taught, some of them like

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<v Speaker 2>it's just insane to see them such skilled people create.

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<v Speaker 2>I've loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. What's your recommendation. I'm actually reading a

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<v Speaker 1>new book right now and this was a recommendation from

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<v Speaker 1>my missies. I think we need to who we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot on here, and it's called Women Who

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<v Speaker 1>Run with Wolves Myths and Stories of the Wild woman archetype.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do I want to read this book right now?

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<v Speaker 1>It's so good to take. Well, you'd love it because

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<v Speaker 1>it's about stories, and I feel like you love stories,

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<v Speaker 1>love stories. So basically it's this woman who I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even gonna because I'm gonna butcher her title, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>like she literally helps women who feel like they have

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<v Speaker 1>like lost purpose or lost themselves come back to themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's what she does as a job, and she

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<v Speaker 1>is psychologist but also studies animals. I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really niche. It's so niche. Love a niche forck we do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so niche. And like she really goes into how

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<v Speaker 1>women over time have like a kind of like quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote lost their way because how society has conditioned us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very much. It feeds into everything I'm about. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's just cool because she talks about things in such

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<v Speaker 1>a different way. Some of the time it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit hard ter. IM like, I've got to really

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, Like it's one of those thought provoking books.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's really interesting because she storytells. I love that,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's really cool. It's not like a usual here

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<v Speaker 1>are the facts and I'm a psychologist. She storytells, and

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<v Speaker 1>she tells you about these old stories from different times,

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<v Speaker 1>different lands, and then how we can like almost reflect

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<v Speaker 1>them to at us now and how we can use them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to come back to ourselves. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really it's really cool. It's different. I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>I've only read like maybe three chapters, so i'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you like a final update. But I find it really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also bought a Kindle. Oh, I bought a

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<v Speaker 1>handle Joying Well because I really wanted to read that book.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I go through this thing where I get

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<v Speaker 1>really excited to read a book and they have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait like ten days for it to get here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm like, well, I'm just gonna buy a kindle

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<v Speaker 1>because also I read so many books and I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>buy them all, so I'm like, well, just have it

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<v Speaker 1>in a kindle. So yeah, I bought a kindle and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been reading that and I will let you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've literally been wareing up sometimes at four am

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<v Speaker 1>and reading before I get out of it. I love that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm usually so tired at night and I read

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of pages and I literally fall asleep, So

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<v Speaker 1>then I just like go to sleep, but then I

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<v Speaker 1>read in the morning like four am. Random, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my recommendation. I will definitely give you an update

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<v Speaker 1>when I finished the book. But in saying that, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get straight into this episode. You guys are gonna love

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<v Speaker 1>this one. Mick, Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Mick is head of design here at n H, n

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<v Speaker 1>R and C.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, do you want to just tell

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<v Speaker 3>us more about I guess you know, your journey in

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<v Speaker 3>your career and just what you do here at.

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<v Speaker 1>N H and R and C. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I'll start with n H and R n C.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm head of Designs, head of creative.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Cover all of the overall visuals for both brands essentially,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I also do a lot of the photography

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<v Speaker 3>and videography content alongside the social girls and packaging everything

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<v Speaker 3>visual for the brands for both Naked Harvests and Rise

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<v Speaker 3>and Conquer. She really is the whole package, the triple threat.

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<v Speaker 1>I know when you were like, oh, and I can

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<v Speaker 1>also take photos and do videos, I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're hYP and please you. So tell us more about

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<v Speaker 1>like I guess the people who are listening to theirs

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<v Speaker 1>who want to be a mix you know, what was

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<v Speaker 1>the career path to get to this spot?

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<v Speaker 3>So I knew what I wanted to do from about

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<v Speaker 3>grade nine and the UNI degree that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>get into was an OPI four, which is like I

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<v Speaker 3>like to think I'm smart, but four is a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's yeah, and especially for creat a degree to

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<v Speaker 1>haven't I I trying to say, and like because I yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to put creatives in a box, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nothing to do with academic Yeah, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a skill. Yeah, And so I knew I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and you know I had what was that?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the degree?

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a Bachelor of Design at Queensland College

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<v Speaker 3>of Art, Okay, and it's super prestigious with international students,

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<v Speaker 3>Like lots of international students want to do it. And

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<v Speaker 3>I had it on my vision board, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Grade nine in grade nine, Oh, you're my grade eleven

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<v Speaker 1>because your mom my mom's super love this. My mom

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<v Speaker 1>loves Tarakat. I grew up around woo woo. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, and the wonder why you're drawn Tarran.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I feel like it was just meant to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But so I had OP I had the degree on

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<v Speaker 1>my vision board. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>OPS came out at the end of the year twelve

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<v Speaker 3>and I got a five. But I wasn't disappointed, like

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<v Speaker 3>I just knew. I'm like, I'm going to do this

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<v Speaker 3>degree one way or the other, my god. And then

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<v Speaker 3>the offers came out and the OP cut off changed

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<v Speaker 3>to a five.

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<v Speaker 1>That year stop. And so I got into my dream

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<v Speaker 1>degree at like seventeen. Oh my god. So I did

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<v Speaker 1>a Bachelor of Design. Oh of course, because I remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember even the teachers being like, sometimes they can change,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's really rare.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it had been a four since I was

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<v Speaker 3>in year nine, so for you know, ten eleven, every year.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an OP cut of four vibes. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>manifest in Galley, love this for you. And then from

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<v Speaker 1>there I did my design degree.

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<v Speaker 3>I got the standard first job out of UNI, working

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<v Speaker 3>for a fashion brand.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was like my dream job, really cool brand,

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<v Speaker 1>really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I was a junior graphic designer, but it

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<v Speaker 3>turns out I was the only graphic designer. I was

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<v Speaker 3>also the senior everything creative director, and so I let

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<v Speaker 3>so much. And then from there I took a slight

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<v Speaker 3>right turn into photography and honed into my photography career

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<v Speaker 3>doing real estate and weddings, and then came back full

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<v Speaker 3>circle back into design.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Realized that that's where I truly wanted to be, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I've brought design, photography, videography and everything into this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of head of creative role. And yeah, amazing, Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, I'm so glad you shared that story with us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredible. I haven't told it to you. No, all right, Mick,

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<v Speaker 1>Well let us know. I know this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>look so different because you are a creative and n

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<v Speaker 1>HN R and C we always doing like so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, what would like a typical, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>work day look like for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's so hard to pigeonhole because every day

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<v Speaker 3>is so different. So like, right before recording this interview.

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<v Speaker 3>We I was just doing a content shoot with Katie

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<v Speaker 3>downstairs for for n H and then for product launch,

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<v Speaker 3>for a product launch, and then now we're filming a

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<v Speaker 3>podcast which I'm normally behind the scenes of, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and just last week we were like shooting

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<v Speaker 3>for my collection, for the collection in like a completely

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<v Speaker 3>you know, different space, and then have to come straight

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<v Speaker 3>back into a different headspace and help out Alex with

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<v Speaker 3>like new packaging designs that need to be approved and

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<v Speaker 3>sent off asap, and maybe maybe create an edim, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>do an idim here and there, edits, some photos here

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<v Speaker 3>and there, do.

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<v Speaker 1>A social pos like who knows, do some website creates stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Briefed in our website designer the other day. All right, Mick,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get straight into my collection. This is why we

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<v Speaker 1>are Mick. Let's talk about me. Let's talk about Georgie. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what's new. Let's talk about my collection. Because for my collection,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really important to come with something like new

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<v Speaker 1>and spicy with packaging, and me and Alex both were like,

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<v Speaker 1>we completely left that to Mick, and you just created

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<v Speaker 1>so much magic. So maybe take us through kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the process of you know, packaging in general, and then

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<v Speaker 1>my collection of how that was different. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So for packaging design as like a whole, you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of have to use both like left and right brains,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's not just about looking pretty. It has to

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<v Speaker 3>be functional. It has to hold the product. It has

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<v Speaker 3>to store the product. Especially with Naked Harvest. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's sufflements, it's food, it needs to be stored. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not a package that's thrown away straight away. So we

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<v Speaker 3>have to think about all of that when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to any packaging design. But then also we like to

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<v Speaker 3>be different because we need we want to stand out

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<v Speaker 3>on the shelf, but we also want to just have

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of fun, and that's what Naked Harvest is

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<v Speaker 3>all about. We want our customer to feel a certain way, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and we want them to love the packaging as much

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<v Speaker 3>as they love the product. And so that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>where I start with when it comes to doing any

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<v Speaker 3>kind of form of design.

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<v Speaker 1>So with my packaging, because I really I gave you

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<v Speaker 1>like some I just articulated to you. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want it to be me, I want it to

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<v Speaker 1>be fun. Should we say what you actually said in

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<v Speaker 1>the Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So I say, what did I actually say? Because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure it was fucked. I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 1>I trust you, but I like rainbows and stars and shit,

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<v Speaker 1>I did say that. I actually did, not you did.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, like something like rainbow stars,

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<v Speaker 1>I know some shit like that sorted out like you

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<v Speaker 1>know me, you know me well, like Becuzmick does do

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<v Speaker 1>the rn C.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know my vibe, I'm a bit

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<v Speaker 3>like who you know, bit crazy, bit crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the colorful. I want them to see the

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<v Speaker 1>packaging and be like, oh my god, that's so different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a bit left field, but it's so g.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so g, but it's also so Naked Harvest. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make sure that it was still like true

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<v Speaker 1>to the Naked Harvest brand, but then also obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>Georgie Stevenson look as well. Yeah, and I loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the first packaging design I've ever done where I've

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<v Speaker 3>only presented one concept because I just loved it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not giving you another option. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing didn't give me any options. And she

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<v Speaker 1>presented it and I was like, oh wait, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>see me in the camera.

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<v Speaker 3>You actually I think I was in a meeting with

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<v Speaker 3>Jamie and you came running in and you were like.

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<v Speaker 1>Mick, and I was like, oh no, what's happened? Oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like the packaging, And in my head, I'm going,

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<v Speaker 1>she hates it, she hates it. You're like obsessed love done,

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<v Speaker 1>take it off the lip ticket done, prove, send it

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<v Speaker 1>to Alex. I know. And because I because like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>be let's be very transferent me. Sometimes, like packaging, it

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<v Speaker 1>can take it's a very long it can take like

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<v Speaker 1>ten goals of like we try different patterns or we

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<v Speaker 1>try different placements, like and we can really go back

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<v Speaker 1>and foot, especially because Mix working with like me and

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper who were not a create like who were not creative,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't and you both have different opinions, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very different, so we don't often know how to articulate.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like I want this vibe, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to articulate it, and Mix got a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like guess and then it's like I'm like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of wanted the exact opposite. Yeah, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>but it takes you seeing it to realize that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not what you want. So it's a process. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>a process. No, you ace that literally first go I

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<v Speaker 1>literally processed.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like my favorite thing I've ever done. The

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<v Speaker 3>pre workout too is just to diet for.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so pretty and the even like the aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>the gold foil and like all the little detailed touches

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<v Speaker 1>were like so thought about.

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<v Speaker 3>And because we were really I wanted to really make

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<v Speaker 3>it show that it was a limited edition collection as well,

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<v Speaker 3>so bringing you'll never get so bringing in the gold

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<v Speaker 3>foil was like an important element of that, not just

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<v Speaker 3>because it's g but it's also limited. Limited is yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't so thinking about all of those aspects, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of came into play there also, I guess like

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<v Speaker 3>something that just came to me and was like thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about because you are wearing so many.

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<v Speaker 1>Different hats, like still in the creative realm of like

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<v Speaker 1>social and photography and product and they are so different.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, like you said, like you previously worked in

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<v Speaker 1>fashion and real estate, like very different realms. What's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the difference or the thought pattern of when you're

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<v Speaker 1>creating a product versus like a social post or a

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<v Speaker 1>website banner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's so different. Every time, you step into

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<v Speaker 3>different realms of design. So for packaging, you really have

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<v Speaker 3>to be there's so much more involved in it because

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<v Speaker 3>it has to meet legal requirements. It has to also

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<v Speaker 3>be functional and look pretty on the shelf, and the

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<v Speaker 3>preaching it has to look so pretty. It has to

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<v Speaker 3>grab so much customers attention. But also you know you're

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<v Speaker 3>ordering bulk of this.

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<v Speaker 1>There's very little.

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<v Speaker 3>Room for error, so you have to get it right.

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<v Speaker 3>So the approval stage and the design stage is so

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<v Speaker 3>much longer. Whereas when we're designing for like a social post,

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<v Speaker 3>that could take us like twenty minutes and it's up

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<v Speaker 3>that afternoon, mack it up.

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<v Speaker 1>If Georgie doesn't like it, would do we just delete it? Anything?

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<v Speaker 3>Web based is so much easier, and also you have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more room for creativity because there's so many

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<v Speaker 3>more elements that you can bring into it, like video

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<v Speaker 3>and movements and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just it's very different. But you also like

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<v Speaker 1>the designing a package or do you prefer the other

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<v Speaker 1>role where you can be a bit more creative. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I kind of like both. I like that

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<v Speaker 1>I get to do good answer. You have about ten

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<v Speaker 1>packaging designs that need to get done as I like

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<v Speaker 1>doing both.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the flexibility and the creativity and the different

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<v Speaker 3>brains that you have to use to do everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I love being the head of design because

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<v Speaker 3>I do get to have my like touch on all

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<v Speaker 3>these different aspects.

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<v Speaker 1>Very stimulating. So moving on, like what is your creative process?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I like, I find for me to be creative,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I've got to fucking be in the right environment.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta like meditate before I gotta go to the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim can't talk to me. It's like a whole big thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Where was I feel like you step into your creative

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<v Speaker 1>so easy? Like, what is your actual creative process for things?

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely think it's a learned thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't as easy for me to step into the

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<v Speaker 3>creative zone working in an office.

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<v Speaker 1>Space straight out of school.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's very overwhelming having other people around, because I

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<v Speaker 3>think I was so used to being in you know,

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<v Speaker 3>your home environment and doing the same thing, doing all

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<v Speaker 3>your rituals to get into it. But now it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of just like a learned thing. I can step into

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<v Speaker 3>that zone quite easily. But I think it all comes

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<v Speaker 3>down to learn skill it's can learn skill. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think it comes down to having a clear vision,

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<v Speaker 3>a clear end goal, kind of just knowing what you

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<v Speaker 3>need to do. But then I'm constantly getting inspiration from

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<v Speaker 3>everything around me, Like I'll pull inspiration from the most

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<v Speaker 3>random places, and I'm constantly doing that in my everyday life,

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<v Speaker 3>so that when it comes to, I don't know, thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about a new vibed mood for a new launch, I've

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<v Speaker 3>already got these like inspirational things in the back of

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<v Speaker 3>my mind that I can pull from and then it

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of spiles from there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love a good mood board, loves the mood

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<v Speaker 1>read board. And even this is going like a bit

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<v Speaker 1>on a tangent. But how do you feel like your

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<v Speaker 1>creativity has been since having your baby boy, Miles, Because guys,

0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:15.959
<v Speaker 1>Mick is a mom, she does it all and Miles

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.719
<v Speaker 1>is only five days older than Ivy. Yeah, so when

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Mick started with us, we were literally both pregnant at

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the same exact same time. We went on that journey

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<v Speaker 1>together and then Mick took what like eight six months,

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:30.639
<v Speaker 1>six months six months off and then came back to

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<v Speaker 1>work and yeah, she's been doing the whole Miles and work,

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<v Speaker 1>and for me personally, there was definitely obviously a transition

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<v Speaker 1>with having Ivy and like finding my feet again. How's

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<v Speaker 1>your creative process changed since having Miles.

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely not gonna lie. The first couple of months,

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 3>we're a real struggle, just trying to get your take creativity,

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 3>don't they they really do, and just trying to like

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 3>also separate yourself when you're at work, separate mum life,

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 3>and like it's hard to switch off from that. And

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 3>then also coming in we still had When I left

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Naked Harvest, I was the sole graphic designer, and when

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.920
<v Speaker 3>I came back, Jazzy, who replaced me while on matt leave,

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 3>stayed so that we were working together. So it was

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 3>also trying to find a new groove with the two

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 3>of us, of course, which I worked with designers in

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 3>the past, but never here.

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>So there was a definitely like a navigation period, a navigation.

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Period where I was trying to get back into my

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.120
<v Speaker 3>groove and trying to figure out where.

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>We all fit.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it took a good two to three months,

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 3>I think, to really get back into the zone.

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really good to speak about that because

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I think especially new moms like you do. You get

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<v Speaker 1>back into work and it really does feel like you

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:50.919
<v Speaker 1>like a deafine an old self where you have to

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>do things differently and life is now so different and

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you almost need to like redefine of who you are

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 1>like now as a mom. And I could imagine, especially

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.440
<v Speaker 1>you are such a creative figuring out what that new

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 1>process looked like for you, especially because don't you find

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:09.919
<v Speaker 1>like I find a lot of my creative energy comes

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.640
<v Speaker 1>where I'm like filling up my own cup, and when

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you have a baby, that's kind of the life lesson

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you do. Totally. It has been amazing though, to see

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>you find your feet again and step back into that

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>creative role. And I really feel like, obviously you know,

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 1>it's taken time and now you're back at work more

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, but it's been really amazing, like to see

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that process and to see it and then it's a

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<v Speaker 1>real process.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I did come back to work expecting

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.719
<v Speaker 3>it to be the same as it always was, but

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 3>I had changed Naked Harvest to change they can Harvest.

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Was six months down the road.

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:49.360
<v Speaker 3>We're bigger, we were so much was different, and then

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 3>trying to navigate not being able to just like quickly

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 3>get something done in the afternoon or stay at work

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 3>late like I couldn't. You know, you are navigating a

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<v Speaker 3>whole lot more. But I definitely think I was bursting

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 3>with creativity, but in a different way.

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's also like accepting that new way to

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>being like, oh okay, it's different, but that doesn't mean

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.120
<v Speaker 1>it's bad. Yeah, And I think that also leans into

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the learn skill of just being able to dive into

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the creative zone. I had to do that faster because

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I was only working so many days a week instead

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>of the usual full time And yeah, and it's just

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:25.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of one of those things you just do it.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 1>You literally just do it because what other choice do

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 1>you hear? Yeah, amazing. So let's get into obviously, you know,

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the creatives listening to this episode, the ones who they want,

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're wanting to have a similar career. Let's

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.880
<v Speaker 1>be just very transparent, like what sort of programs are

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 1>we using in both businesses? What are your favorite and

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>what like? What are your go to?

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Definitely the Adobe Creative Suite, It's it is the premium

0:27:56.000 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 3>design software. But not gonna lie, I mean Photoshop since

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 3>I was like twelve I'm loyal to the brand twelve

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I was. I was that nerdy little high school girl,

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 3>like you're on a missn And then I was also

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 3>like photoshopping like celebrity photos.

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Stop. I can't relate, but anyway, and.

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like you know, back in the days in

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 3>my space and like HTML, I wote code, like everything

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 3>has like transferred into my working career.

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I love that so much. So I don't have friends.

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know about this.

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 3>So the Adobe Creative Suite is one hundred percent so

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Photoshop in Design, Illustrator, Premiere Pro. If you want to

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 3>be a graphic designer, you need to know all of

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 3>these programs and you need to know them. Well, yeah,

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 3>but I don't think you need to do a degree

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 3>to know them either. There are so many online tutorials

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of what I do now was self taught.

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Isn't it funny about degrees? You're like, I've learned

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>so much more after Yeah, but obviously, you know I

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>did love my degree because I was seven. I was

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>a baby. I wasn't ready to enter the career force. Yeah,

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>but definitely you don't need it, Yeah, to be a

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>successful designer and I think that's also, Like I feel

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>like Mick to your personality is if we're like, oh,

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>we want to do this, like I don't know, let's

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>just say it's some sort of video or something you

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>haven't really done before, you're very much like, oh, I'll

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>figure it out. Yeah, I'll see if I can do it. Yeah.

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Like there's I think that skill too, is so much

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>more valuable.

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<v Speaker 3>Than a degree, definitely, definitely, and having that hunger and

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 3>drive and passion passion to learn. And I'm I think

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 3>you need to be constantly wanting to learn more as

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 3>a creative role, like you're not done. Yeah, once you

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 3>get to that role, you're not done. You still need

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 3>to constantly upskill. And the environment's constantly changing too. The

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 3>trends social media wasn't a thing that you designed for

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 3>when I was in UNI. So true, so true, And

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 3>so you just have to be flexible and learning all

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 3>the time.

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>How do I make a real How I'll figure it out?

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>What else? All right, let's chat about the actual creative

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>of my collection. In regards to I know you said

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 1>you love mood board, the very book loves the mood board.

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>In regards to I guess the shoot at the creatives

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>after and also preparing for a campaign like that.

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 3>So, like we said before, it starts with a good

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 3>mood board, and it starts with an idea and a concept.

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 3>So I guess I think it was you came to

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<v Speaker 3>us with the concept of you wanted it to be

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 3>a bit fashioning and you wanted it to be a

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 3>bit fun, and the seven rules and the seven rules,

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:41.719
<v Speaker 3>and we wanted to combine them together. So my again,

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 3>like Mick will, it's like a team thing kind of

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 3>of when we were speaking to alex of Lake, it's

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 3>really important that everyone is communicating and connected because you know,

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Mick needs me to give her some sort of direction

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 3>so then she can go and create the magic.

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>And then she needs to like talk to the whole

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>team and every it needs to be on the same page.

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>So remember, like we were kind of talking and I said,

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I want it to be about the seven rules of

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>being your own best friend. Obviously that's a huge part

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of me being like into my self development. And I wanted, like,

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want the campaign to just be like this

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 1>is a yummy flavor. Yeah, we wanted it to be Georgie.

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>We wanted there to be a theme. I'm pretty sure

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you were the one who came up with the fashion

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>who was like, oh, I think I just said I

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>don't want it to be like a usual and hate

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>you didn't want to be holding your product. Yeah, I

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, let's.

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Take the piers because my favorite thing is to take

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 3>the piers exactly, and we love having a joke. And yeah,

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 3>if you hadn't taken ourselves too seriously.

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>And you were like, let's do Zara posin, Let's do

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the funny Zara poses. So that's where that TikTok came from.

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's so funny because it really that

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>shoot was so much fun, so much fun.

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 3>And I think because also we weren't we were taking

0:31:58.120 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 3>it seriously and that we had a goal in mind.

0:31:59.920 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 3>We had to capture photos for our campaign, but we

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 3>were having fun along the way. Yeah, and so we

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 3>were just doing like the craziest out there poses that

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 3>we can think of, and like putting Georgie in all

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:11.959
<v Speaker 3>these like contortion positions.

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>The fact that I actually look like a slug in

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>one of them, it's so funny, but.

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 3>They turned out so well, and then it's it just

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 3>gives the collection its own vibe and its own aesthetics,

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 3>so that anytime you see that image, you know that

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 3>it's Georgie's cloud that we're talking about on socials.

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's what we kind of did. So with Katie,

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>who's our social you know she does all the socials

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>en h is, she came up with a plan of like,

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>this is the content I want in regards to the

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>social plan. Obviously Mel had the content she needed for

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.959
<v Speaker 1>the website different things. Obviously I had my idea, and

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>then mix go to almost like backtrack and plan to

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>be like, all right, what actual content do we need

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>from the data?

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I collate that all together and then it becomes

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 3>the logistics side of things. So planning your shot list

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.239
<v Speaker 3>and run sheet for the day, Yeah, because we had

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 3>multiple outfits, we had to coordinate which outfits were going

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 3>to be in which content and then shoot all of

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 3>one outfit all of the next outfit and just kind

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 3>of make.

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>The day best, utilize the day as we.

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Can so you're not having too many outfit changes and

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 3>breaks and that kind of thing. So that's really important

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to planning content shoots, especially when you're

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 3>hiring a space like we were. We're so used to

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 3>being able to shoot at the warehouse, which is where

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 3>we do a lot of our content shoots yep in

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, hiring a space, you've only got a limited

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 3>amount of time, so you really have to make best

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 3>use of your time.

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>So we had me shooting and.

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 3>Katie getting content at the same time, and Ellie and

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Ellie so that we could like, yeah, really best streamline

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 3>the whole process. Okay, so now moving on to, you know,

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 3>post photoshoot, how do you sort of put together all

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 3>because this is actually something I've thought about, is like,

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 3>then we have so much content, so much content, what

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 3>is the process then look like to actually execute, you know,

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 3>in that in.

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>The creative realm, it definitely feels a little bit chaotic

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>at the start. But well, even like I know, yesterday

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 1>we got in the boardroom and you got me. You

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>printed it out all the photos from the shoot that

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>you were like, so this is going to be for

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the website, this is going to be for whatever. And

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>you had a whole bunch of images and I picked

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>my favorite.

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we print out the proofs from the shoot

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 3>and go through and do our selects from there. I

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 3>think it was really important to do that as a

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 3>team as well, because with a lot of campaigns, it

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 3>is usually just me, Yeah, because we're dealing with product. Yeah,

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 3>the product doesn't change, it doesn't move, whereas Face and

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 3>Now it deals with me.

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>So it depends on.

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 3>The campaign as to what the process is. But I

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 3>definitely think it was so good having the whole team

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 3>involved in doing the selects, yeah, deciding what we're going

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 3>to use for each content piece, and then moving around

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:57.919
<v Speaker 3>if things needed to change.

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Because also another thing is like photo shoots don't always

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 1>go to plan and we're kind of like, oh wait,

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that was actually supposed to be in the

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 1>other outfit. But it's like we just adjust things and

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<v Speaker 1>we just make it work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And like there was one shot that we really loved,

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<v Speaker 3>but you're only were holding Thrive and we wanted it

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<v Speaker 3>to be a collection shot.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've just photoshopped in free workout. Yeah I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, but I really love this photo and

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, I'll just photoshopping in. I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can do that. Yeah, we should just make anything. I

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<v Speaker 1>can do anything, like, oh my god, anything asterisk. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So funny. Well, let's go through what would your give

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<v Speaker 1>us like one or two pieces of advice. Someone wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be a creative galley, they want they want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a MiG. What would your best piece of advice

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<v Speaker 1>be for them?

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<v Speaker 3>I think probably just more design advice as a whole

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<v Speaker 3>would be never losing focus of the end goal, because

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<v Speaker 3>your role as a graphic designer isn't about making things

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<v Speaker 3>look pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not an artist.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about visually communicating something to an audience. So you've

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<v Speaker 3>got to always think about the end goal and have

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<v Speaker 3>that in mind. So you might have two photos that

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<v Speaker 3>you want to choose from. One of them is beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to suit your design, it's gonna be amazing,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can't really tell what the product is or

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<v Speaker 3>you can't really see the product. And then you have

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<v Speaker 3>the other photo. It's not as great, but the product

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<v Speaker 3>looks amazing, you can tell exactly what it does. You

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<v Speaker 3>have to use that photo because at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, you're still communicating something. You're still trying to

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<v Speaker 3>achieve something, whether that's sales, brand awareness, information education. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like getting out of your own head

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's such as like I'm so glad you

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<v Speaker 1>said this, because they think sometimes, especially in a business

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<v Speaker 1>with creatives, it's a thing of like, remember there is

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<v Speaker 1>a bottom line exactly, and like you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>a creative, but you also need to know the end

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<v Speaker 1>goal of like what we're actually here for, not just

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<v Speaker 1>it looking gorgeous exactly, and not straying from your brand

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<v Speaker 1>image as well. A lot of designers fall into the

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<v Speaker 1>trap of making things looking trendy. And that's okay with

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<v Speaker 1>social media because social media is fluid, but when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to other parts of the brand, so like packaging

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<v Speaker 1>and all the other visual kind of cues, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to keep that in mind and stay true to your

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<v Speaker 1>brand or the brand and the meaning and the purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what you can have fun with, but also know

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<v Speaker 1>what needs to be you know, the same in regards

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<v Speaker 1>to the style guy. Yeah, and then it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like piggybacking off of that piece of advice would also

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<v Speaker 1>be learning to separate yourself from your designs and.

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<v Speaker 3>Not to take critical feedback to personally. It's got nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to do with you. It's always the end goal. So like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you you know you're whoever's.

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<v Speaker 1>Me with packaging, I hate it. It makes like cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do another work do something like she's not worried

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<v Speaker 1>that's not working. I think that's really important.

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<v Speaker 3>You really need to separate yourself from it because it's

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<v Speaker 3>got nothing to do with you or your skill set

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<v Speaker 3>or you as a designer. It's all to do with

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<v Speaker 3>that specific design and the end goal, like the photo

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<v Speaker 3>thing in mind, If whoever's doing your approvals has said no,

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<v Speaker 3>change out the photo and you get a bit cut,

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<v Speaker 3>it's because of that end goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, Yeah, that's so important. I love that. M Well.

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<v Speaker 1>To finish off, do you have a funny story for

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<v Speaker 1>us in your career at Campy and h of You know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a designer, something funny happening where you look back

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, that was wild but also hilarious now,

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<v Speaker 1>but probably not at the time. If something went really

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<v Speaker 1>really wrong. Yeah anything. It wasn't that d H.

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<v Speaker 3>It was that a previous brand. But I was working

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<v Speaker 3>alongside another designer and we were doing signage for a

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<v Speaker 3>new store opening and there was these huge like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know how high the windows were, like I

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<v Speaker 3>want to say, like four or five metres. They were

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<v Speaker 3>huge windows like stickers. Yeah that we're going to do

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<v Speaker 3>like coming soon decals in but the coming soon. Decayls

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<v Speaker 3>were going to be up for months, like, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>just a temporary thing. And in the design and print world,

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<v Speaker 3>it's standard practice that if you want gold, foil or

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<v Speaker 3>any kind of special treatment that's not just a print color,

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<v Speaker 3>you put like bright magenta, bright cyan blue.

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<v Speaker 1>To indicate that that's foil yeap. So we did that

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<v Speaker 1>on the signage, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we communicated to the like project manager that it

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<v Speaker 3>was all meant to be gold because the creative director

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<v Speaker 3>wanted gold and we needed to put gold everywhere. And

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<v Speaker 3>then so the signage went up and the project manager

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<v Speaker 3>sent us an email with the photo because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>anywhere local and it was bright fucking pink, and which

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<v Speaker 3>was so off brand for the brand that I was

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<v Speaker 3>working for at the time, and we were mortified. We

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<v Speaker 3>had to ring him and be like, take that down immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>And to this day, thankfully, the creative director had an

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<v Speaker 3>EA and she checked her emails and she deleted the email.

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<v Speaker 1>Before she saw it. Oh my god, that this day,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she knows it ever happened. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that's horrendous. But you got away with it. We got

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<v Speaker 1>away with it.

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<v Speaker 3>So we had to quickly redesign asap, get it to

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<v Speaker 3>the signage company, get them to print it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we had something up the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>But what a shit show. It was mortifying. Kind of

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<v Speaker 1>funny though, it's like it's in the big scheme of things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the end of the world. Yeah, but like

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<v Speaker 1>in those moments, you're like, oh my god, your heart

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>sinks and you're just like, I can't believe that it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because now that we've done goldfoil my collection. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that because I remember being like, what the fuck

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>is this and You're like, it's fine, it's just blah

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>blah blah, and I was like, okay, so anyway, you

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<v Speaker 1>see blue, it's actually gold. It's like my packaging comes

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just like magenta. And I'm like, actually, it'd

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<v Speaker 1>probably be fun. It'd probably still suit for you. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually looked really cute. Mick. It has been such

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<v Speaker 1>a pleasure. Thank you so much for sharing so much

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<v Speaker 1>insight and your creative brain with us. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's so amazing for the RNC audience to really and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the nhgang who's listening to really get the

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes of the creative because so much goes

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<v Speaker 1>into it, so so much goes into it. So much

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<v Speaker 1>fun though, so much fun. Thanks for having me, Thank you,

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