1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: our respects to elders past, present and emerging and extend 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where we 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: ch have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: mix soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: scenes of my life running two businesses and being among 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Think of us as the perfect combo of brunch with 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: your besties mixed with self development. No matter where you 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: are in your journey, we're here to help you be curious, 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness. If you're 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: ready to get into the driver's seat of your own 15 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: life and stop letting life pass you by, then you're 16 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: in the right place. Hey everyone, welcome back to the 17 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: rn C Potty. Today is the third episode of our 18 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: behind the bis series and we have the NH Head 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: of Creative Head of Design Mikayla with us today. So 20 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: Nick actually does the graphic design for NH rn C 21 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: and sometimes some of my content to be honest, like 22 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: she really wears all the hats. She also is like 23 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: a photographer, does all our videography. She is a jack 24 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: of all trades and she's fucking amazing. She's really really good. 25 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: She's I love Mick because she is such a mix 26 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: of a creative where she has the most creative ideas, like, 27 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, the guys, the assets and the creators 28 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: for this campaign, like I cannot and that's all Mick, Like, yeah, 29 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: there's no direction there. I just like let her run 30 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: and do her thing and it's incredible. But also she 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: is a mix of she knows how to be a lead. 32 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: She knows how to because sometimes creatives can get a 33 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: little bit like too creative and they don't know how 34 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: to execute. With mix, like, she's creative, but she also 35 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: knows how to execute. And I think that combo magic, 36 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: bloody magic. So if you're a creative gal, you're gonna 37 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: absolutely love this episode. We chat about graphic design, designing 38 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: for a product versut social media, her creative process and 39 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: how she gets into that creative process, and also just 40 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: like some tips of the trade. So, oh my god, guys, 41 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: when this episode goes live, my collection is going live today, 42 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: So if you're listening in real time, Jesus, get on that, 43 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: Get on that. I cannot stress limited edition one drop 44 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: we have got, like we're so sad. I know we 45 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: have got a good amount. So it's like, I don't 46 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: see this selling out in the first hour or anything 47 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: crazy like that, because it's like, we literally will not 48 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: be restocking this. I cannot stress this enough. So the 49 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: pre workout is mango passion fruit fucking unreal. Tastes like 50 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: a holiday, tropical holiday. 51 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: I love it so much. I had it for my 52 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: afternoon workout once and fully sacrificed my fleep. It was 53 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: like a Friday, so I never work. 54 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: The next day. It's fine, so delicious, it's good. It'sast 55 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: that good piso the soft drink, Oh yeah, don't you reckon, 56 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: You're as sweet. No, but like I'm getting piscito vibes. 57 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: And the protein is caramelk. Fuck white chocolate caramel se 58 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: white chocolate caramel swell. We couldn't call it caramelk because 59 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: the legal reasons. ME says caramel all over these podcasts 60 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't give a fuck, but also 61 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: don't sell me. I love you, Capri, please sir us, 62 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: please do a collapse that would actually be gold. I 63 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: was gonna say that would pop off, that would pop off. 64 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: So it is white chocolate. Swell, caramel swell. Yep, okay, 65 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: it's caramel. Holy shit, guys, this has got to be 66 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: the best protein we've ever made. I'm just gonna say it. 67 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say I have every single morning and 68 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: it's just it's, oh my god, it's incredible. But I 69 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: do want to stress this won't be back. So if 70 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: those flavors are your thing, which they are, everyone's get 71 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: onto it. So early access will be on the Naked 72 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: Harvest app at eleven am Australian needs to standard time, 73 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: So if you're like, oh my god, I've got to 74 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: get in, or if that's just like a better time 75 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: for you to purchase, get on the nh app and 76 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: then the collection will be available on the website at 77 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: one pm. Australian needs to standard time today. So god, 78 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm excited. So much love and creation has gone into 79 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: this collection and it's just like it's just really cool because, 80 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: like I've said in the previous episodes, I have just 81 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: felt such a like fire with you know, this collection 82 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: and being so heavily involved in the creatives and so 83 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: heavily involved in the messaging. And it's really cool because 84 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: I've really brought like my two favorite things together. So 85 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: I've brought you know, naked harvest natural supplements without the crap. 86 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: Plus the whole campaign is seven Rules to be your 87 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: Own Best Friend, which is like, that's so iron c 88 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: It's so I've just I've brought like the two things 89 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: I love together in this collaboration. So much love has 90 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: gone into it, so I hope you guys love it. 91 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: We've had so much fun putting it together, so much 92 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: fun doing this serious to hate. I know, it's the best. 93 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: I feel like I just learned so much, even though 94 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: I've been in the office for a year. 95 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, you're welcome. Well, it is cool because 96 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: it's like you don't usually ask your colleagues Cy's question. No, 97 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: I definitely happen to ask them the nitty gritty of 98 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: their job. Yeah, so it's really cool, guys. I really 99 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: am excited to bring you this episode. If you don't 100 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: want to grab the collection, it is live today. But 101 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: also we're doing a little swap, so I know we 102 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: usually do recommendations on Friday and then tell you about 103 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: our week on Tuesday. We're doing a little swap. So 104 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: today we're doing recommendations, and on Friday we'll be doing 105 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: a little update on our week. That was it just 106 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna suit us better for recording. You didn't really 107 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: need to know the deligious. But I'll tell you a 108 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: tear is just like shut up, so a tea. What 109 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: is your recommendation for this week? 110 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: My recommendation, She's back to the Netflix. 111 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: She's always been the Netflix. I like some other things 112 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: in there should sponsor us. They should, they really should. 113 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm a walking, talking Netflix recommendation. I'm recommending Next in 114 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: Fashion on Netflix season two. It's basically like they have 115 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: all these designers. Is that what the model GG hadid? 116 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: Is she hosting? Yeah? It's amazing, is it? 117 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? I've only watched season two. I haven't watched season one. 118 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: I just watched season two because GG isn't it? And 119 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: they have these designers and they basically get a task 120 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: like you need to create a look for the met Gala, 121 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: and then they have like a couple of hours or 122 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 2: like a day and a half to design a runway 123 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: ready look that a model then has to go down, 124 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: and just watching their creative process has blown my mind. 125 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: And even just like the ins and outs of like 126 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: fitting to a model because they don't know what size 127 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: model they'll get, so they're like making half the outfit, 128 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: getting the model and then fitting it to them and 129 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. And they have like Donald 130 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: Televisaci's a co judge in the first episode. 131 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: Wow, it's of asace. 132 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: I don't know anyway, such a good show. It's like 133 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: a really good watch. Yeah I did. 134 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: I saw that, like I saw shorts and I saw 135 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: GG and was like, oh yeah, but I don't know. 136 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm not usually into those shows neither. 137 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: Of If it was for me, no, I'm not normally 138 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: you would like it. I reckon you would because I've 139 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: been really off reality TV at the moment. But I 140 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: enjoyed this, and I enjoyed how established the designers were 141 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: pre this show, Like some of them are full time designers. 142 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: One of the ladies has dressed Lizzo, another one had 143 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: dressed j Lo. Like they're not just your average person. 144 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: Some of them are self taught, some of them like 145 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: it's just insane to see them such skilled people create. 146 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: I've loved it. 147 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: I love that. What's your recommendation. I'm actually reading a 148 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: new book right now and this was a recommendation from 149 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: my missies. I think we need to who we're talking 150 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: about a lot on here, and it's called Women Who 151 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: Run with Wolves Myths and Stories of the Wild woman archetype. 152 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: Why do I want to read this book right now? 153 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: It's so good to take. Well, you'd love it because 154 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: it's about stories, and I feel like you love stories, 155 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: love stories. So basically it's this woman who I'm not 156 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: even gonna because I'm gonna butcher her title, but it's 157 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: like she literally helps women who feel like they have 158 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: like lost purpose or lost themselves come back to themselves. 159 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Like that's what she does as a job, and she 160 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: is psychologist but also studies animals. I don't know. It's 161 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: really niche. It's so niche. Love a niche forck we do. Yeah, 162 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: it's so niche. And like she really goes into how 163 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: women over time have like a kind of like quote 164 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: unquote lost their way because how society has conditioned us. 165 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: It's very much. It feeds into everything I'm about. But 166 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: it's just cool because she talks about things in such 167 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: a different way. Some of the time it's like a 168 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: little bit hard ter. IM like, I've got to really 169 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: think about it, Like it's one of those thought provoking books. 170 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: But it's really interesting because she storytells. I love that, 171 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: so it's really cool. It's not like a usual here 172 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: are the facts and I'm a psychologist. She storytells, and 173 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: she tells you about these old stories from different times, 174 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: different lands, and then how we can like almost reflect 175 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: them to at us now and how we can use them, 176 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, to come back to ourselves. I love it. 177 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: So it's really it's really cool. It's different. I'm actually 178 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: I've only read like maybe three chapters, so i'll give 179 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: you like a final update. But I find it really interesting. 180 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: And I also bought a Kindle. Oh, I bought a 181 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: handle Joying Well because I really wanted to read that book. 182 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: And then I go through this thing where I get 183 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: really excited to read a book and they have to 184 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: wait like ten days for it to get here. Yeah, 185 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: so I'm like, well, I'm just gonna buy a kindle 186 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: because also I read so many books and I you know, 187 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: buy them all, so I'm like, well, just have it 188 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: in a kindle. So yeah, I bought a kindle and 189 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: I've been reading that and I will let you know. 190 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: And I've literally been wareing up sometimes at four am 191 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: and reading before I get out of it. I love that, Yeah, 192 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: because I'm usually so tired at night and I read 193 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: a couple of pages and I literally fall asleep, So 194 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: then I just like go to sleep, but then I 195 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: read in the morning like four am. Random, but yeah, 196 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: that's my recommendation. I will definitely give you an update 197 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: when I finished the book. But in saying that, let's 198 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: get straight into this episode. You guys are gonna love 199 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: this one. Mick, Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. So, 200 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: Mick is head of design here at n H, n 201 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: R and C. 202 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, do you want to just tell 203 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: us more about I guess you know, your journey in 204 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: your career and just what you do here at. 205 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: N H and R and C. Yeah. 206 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 3: Well I'll start with n H and R n C. 207 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 3: So I'm head of Designs, head of creative. 208 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: I kind of. 209 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: Cover all of the overall visuals for both brands essentially, 210 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: and then I also do a lot of the photography 211 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: and videography content alongside the social girls and packaging everything 212 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: visual for the brands for both Naked Harvests and Rise 213 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 3: and Conquer. She really is the whole package, the triple threat. 214 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: I know when you were like, oh, and I can 215 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: also take photos and do videos, I was like, okay, 216 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: you're hYP and please you. So tell us more about 217 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: like I guess the people who are listening to theirs 218 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: who want to be a mix you know, what was 219 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: the career path to get to this spot? 220 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: So I knew what I wanted to do from about 221 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: grade nine and the UNI degree that I wanted to 222 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: get into was an OPI four, which is like I 223 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 3: like to think I'm smart, but four is a bit 224 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 3: of a stretch. 225 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, and especially for creat a degree to 226 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: haven't I I trying to say, and like because I yeah, 227 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to put creatives in a box, but 228 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, nothing to do with academic Yeah, it is 229 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: a skill. Yeah, And so I knew I wanted to 230 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: do that, and you know I had what was that? 231 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: What was the degree? 232 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: So it was a Bachelor of Design at Queensland College 233 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: of Art, Okay, and it's super prestigious with international students, 234 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: Like lots of international students want to do it. And 235 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: I had it on my vision board, and then. 236 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: Grade nine in grade nine, Oh, you're my grade eleven 237 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: because your mom my mom's super love this. My mom 238 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: loves Tarakat. I grew up around woo woo. I love it. 239 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: I love it, and the wonder why you're drawn Tarran. 240 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: I know, I feel like it was just meant to be. 241 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: But so I had OP I had the degree on 242 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: my vision board. Yeah. 243 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 3: OPS came out at the end of the year twelve 244 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 3: and I got a five. But I wasn't disappointed, like 245 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: I just knew. I'm like, I'm going to do this 246 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: degree one way or the other, my god. And then 247 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: the offers came out and the OP cut off changed 248 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: to a five. 249 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: That year stop. And so I got into my dream 250 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: degree at like seventeen. Oh my god. So I did 251 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: a Bachelor of Design. Oh of course, because I remember that. 252 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: I remember even the teachers being like, sometimes they can change, 253 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: but it's really rare. 254 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it had been a four since I was 255 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: in year nine, so for you know, ten eleven, every year. 256 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: It was an OP cut of four vibes. She's a 257 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: manifest in Galley, love this for you. And then from 258 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: there I did my design degree. 259 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: I got the standard first job out of UNI, working 260 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: for a fashion brand. 261 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was like my dream job, really cool brand, 262 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: really cool. 263 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: And then I was a junior graphic designer, but it 264 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: turns out I was the only graphic designer. I was 265 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: also the senior everything creative director, and so I let 266 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: so much. And then from there I took a slight 267 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: right turn into photography and honed into my photography career 268 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: doing real estate and weddings, and then came back full 269 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 3: circle back into design. 270 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: I kind of. 271 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: Realized that that's where I truly wanted to be, and 272 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: so I've brought design, photography, videography and everything into this 273 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: kind of head of creative role. And yeah, amazing, Oh 274 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: my god, I'm so glad you shared that story with us. 275 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: That's incredible. I haven't told it to you. No, all right, Mick, 276 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: Well let us know. I know this is going to 277 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: look so different because you are a creative and n 278 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: HN R and C we always doing like so much. 279 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what would like a typical, you know, 280 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: work day look like for you. 281 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: I know it's so hard to pigeonhole because every day 282 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: is so different. So like, right before recording this interview. 283 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: We I was just doing a content shoot with Katie 284 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: downstairs for for n H and then for product launch, 285 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: for a product launch, and then now we're filming a 286 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: podcast which I'm normally behind the scenes of, and then 287 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: you know, and just last week we were like shooting 288 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: for my collection, for the collection in like a completely 289 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: you know, different space, and then have to come straight 290 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: back into a different headspace and help out Alex with 291 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: like new packaging designs that need to be approved and 292 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: sent off asap, and maybe maybe create an edim, maybe 293 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: do an idim here and there, edits, some photos here 294 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: and there, do. 295 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: A social pos like who knows, do some website creates stuff? 296 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: Briefed in our website designer the other day. All right, Mick, 297 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: let's get straight into my collection. This is why we 298 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: are Mick. Let's talk about me. Let's talk about Georgie. Okay, 299 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: what's new. Let's talk about my collection. Because for my collection, 300 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: it was really important to come with something like new 301 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: and spicy with packaging, and me and Alex both were like, 302 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: we completely left that to Mick, and you just created 303 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: so much magic. So maybe take us through kind of 304 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: the process of you know, packaging in general, and then 305 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: my collection of how that was different. Yeah. 306 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: So for packaging design as like a whole, you kind 307 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: of have to use both like left and right brains, 308 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: because it's not just about looking pretty. It has to 309 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: be functional. It has to hold the product. It has 310 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: to store the product. Especially with Naked Harvest. You know, 311 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: it's sufflements, it's food, it needs to be stored. It's 312 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 3: not a package that's thrown away straight away. So we 313 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: have to think about all of that when it comes 314 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: to any packaging design. But then also we like to 315 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: be different because we need we want to stand out 316 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 3: on the shelf, but we also want to just have 317 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: a bit of fun, and that's what Naked Harvest is 318 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: all about. We want our customer to feel a certain way, yeah, 319 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: and we want them to love the packaging as much 320 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: as they love the product. And so that's kind of 321 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 3: where I start with when it comes to doing any 322 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: kind of form of design. 323 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: So with my packaging, because I really I gave you 324 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: like some I just articulated to you. I was like, 325 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: I want it to be me, I want it to 326 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: be fun. Should we say what you actually said in 327 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: the Yeah? 328 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: So I say, what did I actually say? Because I'm 329 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 3: sure it was fucked. I don't really know. 330 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: I trust you, but I like rainbows and stars and shit, 331 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: I did say that. I actually did, not you did. 332 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, like something like rainbow stars, 333 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: I know some shit like that sorted out like you 334 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: know me, you know me well, like Becuzmick does do 335 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: the rn C. 336 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 3: I was like, you know my vibe, I'm a bit 337 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: like who you know, bit crazy, bit crazy. 338 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: I want the colorful. I want them to see the 339 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: packaging and be like, oh my god, that's so different. 340 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: It's kind of a bit left field, but it's so g. 341 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: It's so g, but it's also so Naked Harvest. I 342 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that it was still like true 343 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: to the Naked Harvest brand, but then also obviously the 344 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: Georgie Stevenson look as well. Yeah, and I loved it. 345 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: That's the first packaging design I've ever done where I've 346 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: only presented one concept because I just loved it so much. 347 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not giving you another option. Literally, 348 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: what we're doing didn't give me any options. And she 349 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: presented it and I was like, oh wait, you can't 350 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: see me in the camera. 351 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: You actually I think I was in a meeting with 352 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: Jamie and you came running in and you were like. 353 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: Mick, and I was like, oh no, what's happened? Oh gosh, 354 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: and you're like the packaging, And in my head, I'm going, 355 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: she hates it, she hates it. You're like obsessed love done, 356 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: take it off the lip ticket done, prove, send it 357 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: to Alex. I know. And because I because like, let's 358 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: be let's be very transferent me. Sometimes, like packaging, it 359 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: can take it's a very long it can take like 360 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: ten goals of like we try different patterns or we 361 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: try different placements, like and we can really go back 362 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: and foot, especially because Mix working with like me and 363 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: Cooper who were not a create like who were not creative, 364 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: so we don't and you both have different opinions, yeah, 365 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: very different, so we don't often know how to articulate. 366 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: But it's like I want this vibe, I don't know 367 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: how to articulate it, and Mix got a kind of 368 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: like guess and then it's like I'm like, oh no, 369 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: I kind of wanted the exact opposite. Yeah, and she's 370 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: but it takes you seeing it to realize that it's 371 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: not what you want. So it's a process. It's always 372 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: a process. No, you ace that literally first go I 373 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: literally processed. 374 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: I was like my favorite thing I've ever done. The 375 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 3: pre workout too is just to diet for. 376 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: It's so pretty and the even like the aspects of 377 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: the gold foil and like all the little detailed touches 378 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: were like so thought about. 379 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: And because we were really I wanted to really make 380 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: it show that it was a limited edition collection as well, 381 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 3: so bringing you'll never get so bringing in the gold 382 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 3: foil was like an important element of that, not just 383 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 3: because it's g but it's also limited. Limited is yeah, 384 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: we don't so thinking about all of those aspects, Yeah, 385 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: kind of came into play there also, I guess like 386 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 3: something that just came to me and was like thinking 387 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: about because you are wearing so many. 388 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: Different hats, like still in the creative realm of like 389 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: social and photography and product and they are so different. 390 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: And also, like you said, like you previously worked in 391 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: fashion and real estate, like very different realms. What's kind 392 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: of the difference or the thought pattern of when you're 393 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: creating a product versus like a social post or a 394 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: website banner. 395 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's so different. Every time, you step into 396 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: different realms of design. So for packaging, you really have 397 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: to be there's so much more involved in it because 398 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: it has to meet legal requirements. It has to also 399 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: be functional and look pretty on the shelf, and the 400 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: preaching it has to look so pretty. It has to 401 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: grab so much customers attention. But also you know you're 402 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: ordering bulk of this. 403 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: There's very little. 404 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: Room for error, so you have to get it right. 405 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 3: So the approval stage and the design stage is so 406 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: much longer. Whereas when we're designing for like a social post, 407 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: that could take us like twenty minutes and it's up 408 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 3: that afternoon, mack it up. 409 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: If Georgie doesn't like it, would do we just delete it? Anything? 410 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 3: Web based is so much easier, and also you have 411 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: a lot more room for creativity because there's so many 412 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 3: more elements that you can bring into it, like video 413 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: and movements and stuff like that. 414 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: So it's just it's very different. But you also like 415 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: the designing a package or do you prefer the other 416 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: role where you can be a bit more creative. I 417 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: don't know. I kind of like both. I like that 418 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: I get to do good answer. You have about ten 419 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: packaging designs that need to get done as I like 420 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: doing both. 421 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 3: I like the flexibility and the creativity and the different 422 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 3: brains that you have to use to do everything. Yeah, 423 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: that's why I love being the head of design because 424 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: I do get to have my like touch on all 425 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: these different aspects. 426 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: Very stimulating. So moving on, like what is your creative process? 427 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: Because I like, I find for me to be creative, 428 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: it's like I've got to fucking be in the right environment. 429 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: I gotta like meditate before I gotta go to the beach. 430 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: Tim can't talk to me. It's like a whole big thing. 431 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: Where was I feel like you step into your creative 432 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: so easy? Like, what is your actual creative process for things? 433 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: I definitely think it's a learned thing. 434 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: It wasn't as easy for me to step into the 435 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: creative zone working in an office. 436 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: Space straight out of school. 437 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 3: Like it's very overwhelming having other people around, because I 438 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: think I was so used to being in you know, 439 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 3: your home environment and doing the same thing, doing all 440 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: your rituals to get into it. But now it's kind 441 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: of just like a learned thing. I can step into 442 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 3: that zone quite easily. But I think it all comes 443 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 3: down to learn skill it's can learn skill. Yeah, but 444 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 3: I think it comes down to having a clear vision, 445 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: a clear end goal, kind of just knowing what you 446 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: need to do. But then I'm constantly getting inspiration from 447 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: everything around me, Like I'll pull inspiration from the most 448 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 3: random places, and I'm constantly doing that in my everyday life, 449 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: so that when it comes to, I don't know, thinking 450 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 3: about a new vibed mood for a new launch, I've 451 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 3: already got these like inspirational things in the back of 452 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 3: my mind that I can pull from and then it 453 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 3: just kind of spiles from there. 454 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: And I love a good mood board, loves the mood 455 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: read board. And even this is going like a bit 456 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: on a tangent. But how do you feel like your 457 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 1: creativity has been since having your baby boy, Miles, Because guys, 458 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 1: Mick is a mom, she does it all and Miles 459 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: is only five days older than Ivy. Yeah, so when 460 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: Mick started with us, we were literally both pregnant at 461 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: the same exact same time. We went on that journey 462 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: together and then Mick took what like eight six months, 463 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: six months six months off and then came back to 464 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: work and yeah, she's been doing the whole Miles and work, 465 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: and for me personally, there was definitely obviously a transition 466 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: with having Ivy and like finding my feet again. How's 467 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: your creative process changed since having Miles. 468 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: I definitely not gonna lie. The first couple of months, 469 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 3: we're a real struggle, just trying to get your take creativity, 470 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: don't they they really do, and just trying to like 471 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: also separate yourself when you're at work, separate mum life, 472 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 3: and like it's hard to switch off from that. And 473 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: then also coming in we still had When I left 474 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: Naked Harvest, I was the sole graphic designer, and when 475 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 3: I came back, Jazzy, who replaced me while on matt leave, 476 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: stayed so that we were working together. So it was 477 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: also trying to find a new groove with the two 478 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 3: of us, of course, which I worked with designers in 479 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: the past, but never here. 480 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: So there was a definitely like a navigation period, a navigation. 481 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 3: Period where I was trying to get back into my 482 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 3: groove and trying to figure out where. 483 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: We all fit. 484 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: And yeah, it took a good two to three months, 485 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: I think, to really get back into the zone. 486 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: I think it's really good to speak about that because 487 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: I think especially new moms like you do. You get 488 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: back into work and it really does feel like you 489 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: like a deafine an old self where you have to 490 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: do things differently and life is now so different and 491 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: you almost need to like redefine of who you are 492 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: like now as a mom. And I could imagine, especially 493 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: you are such a creative figuring out what that new 494 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: process looked like for you, especially because don't you find 495 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: like I find a lot of my creative energy comes 496 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: where I'm like filling up my own cup, and when 497 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: you have a baby, that's kind of the life lesson 498 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: you do. Totally. It has been amazing though, to see 499 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: you find your feet again and step back into that 500 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: creative role. And I really feel like, obviously you know, 501 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: it's taken time and now you're back at work more 502 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: and stuff, but it's been really amazing, like to see 503 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: that process and to see it and then it's a 504 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: real process. 505 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I did come back to work expecting 506 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 3: it to be the same as it always was, but 507 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: I had changed Naked Harvest to change they can Harvest. 508 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: Was six months down the road. 509 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 3: We're bigger, we were so much was different, and then 510 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 3: trying to navigate not being able to just like quickly 511 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: get something done in the afternoon or stay at work 512 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 3: late like I couldn't. You know, you are navigating a 513 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: whole lot more. But I definitely think I was bursting 514 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: with creativity, but in a different way. 515 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's also like accepting that new way to 516 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: being like, oh okay, it's different, but that doesn't mean 517 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: it's bad. Yeah, And I think that also leans into 518 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: the learn skill of just being able to dive into 519 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: the creative zone. I had to do that faster because 520 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: I was only working so many days a week instead 521 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: of the usual full time And yeah, and it's just 522 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: kind of one of those things you just do it. 523 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: You literally just do it because what other choice do 524 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: you hear? Yeah, amazing. So let's get into obviously, you know, 525 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: the creatives listening to this episode, the ones who they want, 526 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, they're wanting to have a similar career. Let's 527 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: be just very transparent, like what sort of programs are 528 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: we using in both businesses? What are your favorite and 529 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: what like? What are your go to? 530 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 3: Definitely the Adobe Creative Suite, It's it is the premium 531 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 3: design software. But not gonna lie, I mean Photoshop since 532 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: I was like twelve I'm loyal to the brand twelve 533 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: I was. I was that nerdy little high school girl, 534 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: like you're on a missn And then I was also 535 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 3: like photoshopping like celebrity photos. 536 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: Stop. I can't relate, but anyway, and. 537 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: I mean, like you know, back in the days in 538 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 3: my space and like HTML, I wote code, like everything 539 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: has like transferred into my working career. 540 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: I love that so much. So I don't have friends. 541 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know about this. 542 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 3: So the Adobe Creative Suite is one hundred percent so 543 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 3: Photoshop in Design, Illustrator, Premiere Pro. If you want to 544 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: be a graphic designer, you need to know all of 545 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: these programs and you need to know them. Well, yeah, 546 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: but I don't think you need to do a degree 547 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: to know them either. There are so many online tutorials 548 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: and a lot of what I do now was self taught. 549 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Isn't it funny about degrees? You're like, I've learned 550 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: so much more after Yeah, but obviously, you know I 551 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: did love my degree because I was seven. I was 552 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: a baby. I wasn't ready to enter the career force. Yeah, 553 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: but definitely you don't need it, Yeah, to be a 554 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: successful designer and I think that's also, Like I feel 555 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: like Mick to your personality is if we're like, oh, 556 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: we want to do this, like I don't know, let's 557 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: just say it's some sort of video or something you 558 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: haven't really done before, you're very much like, oh, I'll 559 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: figure it out. Yeah, I'll see if I can do it. Yeah. 560 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: Like there's I think that skill too, is so much 561 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: more valuable. 562 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 3: Than a degree, definitely, definitely, and having that hunger and 563 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: drive and passion passion to learn. And I'm I think 564 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: you need to be constantly wanting to learn more as 565 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 3: a creative role, like you're not done. Yeah, once you 566 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: get to that role, you're not done. You still need 567 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 3: to constantly upskill. And the environment's constantly changing too. The 568 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: trends social media wasn't a thing that you designed for 569 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: when I was in UNI. So true, so true, And 570 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 3: so you just have to be flexible and learning all 571 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: the time. 572 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: How do I make a real How I'll figure it out? 573 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: What else? All right, let's chat about the actual creative 574 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: of my collection. In regards to I know you said 575 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: you love mood board, the very book loves the mood board. 576 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: In regards to I guess the shoot at the creatives 577 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: after and also preparing for a campaign like that. 578 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: So, like we said before, it starts with a good 579 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: mood board, and it starts with an idea and a concept. 580 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: So I guess I think it was you came to 581 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: us with the concept of you wanted it to be 582 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: a bit fashioning and you wanted it to be a 583 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: bit fun, and the seven rules and the seven rules, 584 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 3: and we wanted to combine them together. So my again, 585 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: like Mick will, it's like a team thing kind of 586 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: of when we were speaking to alex of Lake, it's 587 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: really important that everyone is communicating and connected because you know, 588 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: Mick needs me to give her some sort of direction 589 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: so then she can go and create the magic. 590 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: And then she needs to like talk to the whole 591 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: team and every it needs to be on the same page. 592 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: So remember, like we were kind of talking and I said, 593 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: I want it to be about the seven rules of 594 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: being your own best friend. Obviously that's a huge part 595 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: of me being like into my self development. And I wanted, like, 596 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: I didn't want the campaign to just be like this 597 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: is a yummy flavor. Yeah, we wanted it to be Georgie. 598 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 599 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: We wanted there to be a theme. I'm pretty sure 600 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: you were the one who came up with the fashion 601 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: who was like, oh, I think I just said I 602 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: don't want it to be like a usual and hate 603 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: you didn't want to be holding your product. Yeah, I 604 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: was like, let's. 605 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: Take the piers because my favorite thing is to take 606 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: the piers exactly, and we love having a joke. And yeah, 607 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 3: if you hadn't taken ourselves too seriously. 608 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: And you were like, let's do Zara posin, Let's do 609 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: the funny Zara poses. So that's where that TikTok came from. 610 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so funny because it really that 611 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: shoot was so much fun, so much fun. 612 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 3: And I think because also we weren't we were taking 613 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: it seriously and that we had a goal in mind. 614 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: We had to capture photos for our campaign, but we 615 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: were having fun along the way. Yeah, and so we 616 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 3: were just doing like the craziest out there poses that 617 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 3: we can think of, and like putting Georgie in all 618 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 3: these like contortion positions. 619 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: The fact that I actually look like a slug in 620 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: one of them, it's so funny, but. 621 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: They turned out so well, and then it's it just 622 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 3: gives the collection its own vibe and its own aesthetics, 623 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 3: so that anytime you see that image, you know that 624 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: it's Georgie's cloud that we're talking about on socials. 625 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: And that's what we kind of did. So with Katie, 626 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: who's our social you know she does all the socials 627 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: en h is, she came up with a plan of like, 628 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: this is the content I want in regards to the 629 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: social plan. Obviously Mel had the content she needed for 630 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 1: the website different things. Obviously I had my idea, and 631 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: then mix go to almost like backtrack and plan to 632 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: be like, all right, what actual content do we need 633 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: from the data? 634 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I collate that all together and then it becomes 635 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 3: the logistics side of things. So planning your shot list 636 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,239 Speaker 3: and run sheet for the day, Yeah, because we had 637 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: multiple outfits, we had to coordinate which outfits were going 638 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 3: to be in which content and then shoot all of 639 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 3: one outfit all of the next outfit and just kind 640 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 3: of make. 641 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: The day best, utilize the day as we. 642 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: Can so you're not having too many outfit changes and 643 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: breaks and that kind of thing. So that's really important 644 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 3: when it comes to planning content shoots, especially when you're 645 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: hiring a space like we were. We're so used to 646 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 3: being able to shoot at the warehouse, which is where 647 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: we do a lot of our content shoots yep in 648 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, hiring a space, you've only got a limited 649 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 3: amount of time, so you really have to make best 650 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 3: use of your time. 651 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: So we had me shooting and. 652 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 3: Katie getting content at the same time, and Ellie and 653 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 3: Ellie so that we could like, yeah, really best streamline 654 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: the whole process. Okay, so now moving on to, you know, 655 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 3: post photoshoot, how do you sort of put together all 656 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: because this is actually something I've thought about, is like, 657 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 3: then we have so much content, so much content, what 658 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 3: is the process then look like to actually execute, you know, 659 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: in that in. 660 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: The creative realm, it definitely feels a little bit chaotic 661 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: at the start. But well, even like I know, yesterday 662 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: we got in the boardroom and you got me. You 663 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: printed it out all the photos from the shoot that 664 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: you were like, so this is going to be for 665 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: the website, this is going to be for whatever. And 666 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: you had a whole bunch of images and I picked 667 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: my favorite. 668 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we print out the proofs from the shoot 669 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 3: and go through and do our selects from there. I 670 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 3: think it was really important to do that as a 671 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 3: team as well, because with a lot of campaigns, it 672 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: is usually just me, Yeah, because we're dealing with product. Yeah, 673 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 3: the product doesn't change, it doesn't move, whereas Face and 674 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 3: Now it deals with me. 675 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: So it depends on. 676 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 3: The campaign as to what the process is. But I 677 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 3: definitely think it was so good having the whole team 678 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: involved in doing the selects, yeah, deciding what we're going 679 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 3: to use for each content piece, and then moving around 680 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 3: if things needed to change. 681 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: Because also another thing is like photo shoots don't always 682 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: go to plan and we're kind of like, oh wait, 683 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: I think that was actually supposed to be in the 684 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: other outfit. But it's like we just adjust things and 685 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: we just make it work. 686 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And like there was one shot that we really loved, 687 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 3: but you're only were holding Thrive and we wanted it 688 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,479 Speaker 3: to be a collection shot. 689 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: So I've just photoshopped in free workout. Yeah I know. 690 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: I was like, but I really love this photo and 691 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: You're like, I'll just photoshopping in. I was like, you 692 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: can do that. Yeah, we should just make anything. I 693 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: can do anything, like, oh my god, anything asterisk. Yeah. 694 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: So funny. Well, let's go through what would your give 695 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: us like one or two pieces of advice. Someone wants 696 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: to be a creative galley, they want they want to 697 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: be a MiG. What would your best piece of advice 698 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: be for them? 699 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: I think probably just more design advice as a whole 700 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 3: would be never losing focus of the end goal, because 701 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 3: your role as a graphic designer isn't about making things 702 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 3: look pretty. 703 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: You're not an artist. 704 00:35:55,160 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 3: It's about visually communicating something to an audience. So you've 705 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 3: got to always think about the end goal and have 706 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 3: that in mind. So you might have two photos that 707 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 3: you want to choose from. One of them is beautiful, 708 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 3: it's going to suit your design, it's gonna be amazing, 709 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: but you can't really tell what the product is or 710 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 3: you can't really see the product. And then you have 711 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 3: the other photo. It's not as great, but the product 712 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 3: looks amazing, you can tell exactly what it does. You 713 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 3: have to use that photo because at the end of 714 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 3: the day, you're still communicating something. You're still trying to 715 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 3: achieve something, whether that's sales, brand awareness, information education. So 716 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 3: it's kind of like getting out of your own head 717 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: a little bit. 718 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: I think that's such as like I'm so glad you 719 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: said this, because they think sometimes, especially in a business 720 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: with creatives, it's a thing of like, remember there is 721 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: a bottom line exactly, and like you need to be 722 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: a creative, but you also need to know the end 723 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: goal of like what we're actually here for, not just 724 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: it looking gorgeous exactly, and not straying from your brand 725 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: image as well. A lot of designers fall into the 726 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: trap of making things looking trendy. And that's okay with 727 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: social media because social media is fluid, but when it 728 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: comes to other parts of the brand, so like packaging 729 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: and all the other visual kind of cues, you need 730 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: to keep that in mind and stay true to your 731 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: brand or the brand and the meaning and the purpose. 732 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: Know what you can have fun with, but also know 733 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: what needs to be you know, the same in regards 734 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: to the style guy. Yeah, and then it kind of 735 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: like piggybacking off of that piece of advice would also 736 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: be learning to separate yourself from your designs and. 737 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 3: Not to take critical feedback to personally. It's got nothing 738 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 3: to do with you. It's always the end goal. So like, 739 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 3: if you you know you're whoever's. 740 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: Me with packaging, I hate it. It makes like cool. 741 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: I'll do another work do something like she's not worried 742 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: that's not working. I think that's really important. 743 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 3: You really need to separate yourself from it because it's 744 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 3: got nothing to do with you or your skill set 745 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 3: or you as a designer. It's all to do with 746 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 3: that specific design and the end goal, like the photo 747 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: thing in mind, If whoever's doing your approvals has said no, 748 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 3: change out the photo and you get a bit cut, 749 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 3: it's because of that end goal. 750 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, that's so important. I love that. M Well. 751 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: To finish off, do you have a funny story for 752 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: us in your career at Campy and h of You know, 753 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: as a designer, something funny happening where you look back 754 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: and you're like, that was wild but also hilarious now, 755 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: but probably not at the time. If something went really 756 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: really wrong. Yeah anything. It wasn't that d H. 757 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: It was that a previous brand. But I was working 758 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 3: alongside another designer and we were doing signage for a 759 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 3: new store opening and there was these huge like I 760 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 3: don't even know how high the windows were, like I 761 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 3: want to say, like four or five metres. They were 762 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: huge windows like stickers. Yeah that we're going to do 763 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 3: like coming soon decals in but the coming soon. Decayls 764 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 3: were going to be up for months, like, it wasn't 765 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 3: just a temporary thing. And in the design and print world, 766 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 3: it's standard practice that if you want gold, foil or 767 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 3: any kind of special treatment that's not just a print color, 768 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 3: you put like bright magenta, bright cyan blue. 769 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: To indicate that that's foil yeap. So we did that 770 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: on the signage, and. 771 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 3: Then we communicated to the like project manager that it 772 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 3: was all meant to be gold because the creative director 773 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 3: wanted gold and we needed to put gold everywhere. And 774 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 3: then so the signage went up and the project manager 775 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 3: sent us an email with the photo because it wasn't 776 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 3: anywhere local and it was bright fucking pink, and which 777 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 3: was so off brand for the brand that I was 778 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 3: working for at the time, and we were mortified. We 779 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 3: had to ring him and be like, take that down immediately. 780 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 3: And to this day, thankfully, the creative director had an 781 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 3: EA and she checked her emails and she deleted the email. 782 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: Before she saw it. Oh my god, that this day, 783 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: I don't think she knows it ever happened. Oh my god, 784 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: that's horrendous. But you got away with it. We got 785 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: away with it. 786 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 3: So we had to quickly redesign asap, get it to 787 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 3: the signage company, get them to print it. 788 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: And I think we had something up the next day. 789 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: But what a shit show. It was mortifying. Kind of 790 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: funny though, it's like it's in the big scheme of things. 791 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: It's not the end of the world. Yeah, but like 792 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: in those moments, you're like, oh my god, your heart 793 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: sinks and you're just like, I can't believe that it's 794 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: funny because now that we've done goldfoil my collection. I 795 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,919 Speaker 1: know that because I remember being like, what the fuck 796 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: is this and You're like, it's fine, it's just blah 797 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: blah blah, and I was like, okay, so anyway, you 798 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: see blue, it's actually gold. It's like my packaging comes 799 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: and it's just like magenta. And I'm like, actually, it'd 800 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: probably be fun. It'd probably still suit for you. Actually, 801 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: it actually looked really cute. 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