WEBVTT - REPETE: Dr. Chris Brown and Chopper 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:03.280 Good a. Peter Helly here, welcome to you. Ain't Seen 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:04.480 Nothing Yet the movie. 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:07.040 Podcast where I chat to a movie lover about a 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.920 classic or beloved movie they haven't quite got around to 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.960 watching until now. And today's guests who spoke to me 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:17.720 with my rather croaky voice. My apologies. He is my 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:23.480 great mate, TV vet broadcaster, photographer, doctor Chris Brown. 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:30.760 Do you any think you have a chance against us? 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:42.440 Mister cowboy? Open the podbay doors. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:53.960 Hell, I'll have what she's happen happening right, don't see 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:54.600 nothing yet. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.640 Doctor Chris Brown is one of the odd time great 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.840 blokes in Australian showbiz. 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.400 Both on screen and off screen. He's much loved. 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:17.720 He burst on our screens in two thousand and three 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:18.640 when he appeared on. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.120 Harry's Practice with Doctor Harry Cooper. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.319 And he was nominated that year for the most Popular 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.000 New Talent at the Logis. But certainly it was his 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:32.560 role as the Bondive Vet which sent him into the 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:37.080 strata sphere. It became a global TV hit and Chris 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.839 was obviously the face of it. He actually did mouth 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.560 the mouth do a dog once. Yeah, just keep that 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.800 in mind, and when you look at his face and 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:50.640 remember how handsome he is. Just remember her passions. Docs, 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:54.200 Just remember that I love Brownie. He's become a really 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.000 great mate over the years. You've seen him, of course 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.360 in the Living Room, A wonderful show with Amanda Cala. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:05.080 Also what a legend. Hopefully a guest on this show 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:10.240 one day soon, Barry Dubois and of course Miguel oh mcgal, 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.680 what a legend. Also he teams up with his great 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.800 mate and my great mate to hilarious Julie Morris and 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:18.920 I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.560 Those two have formed a formidable combination. 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:29.120 Waxing, lyrical, just a great pairing and have really become 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.760 not just because of the celebrities, but they're one of 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.360 the reasons why people tune in to I'm a Celebrity, 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.600 Get Me out of Here. Currently you can see him 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:41.320 on Channel ten's hit The Doghouse Australia. 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.520 Brown is generous despite the. 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.600 Fact, and this may come up in the episode myself, 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:50.200 Sam Mack and Brownie went to Chinatown in Sydney together 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.079 and let's say he skimped when the bill came. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.120 He didn't do a runner, but he claimed he had 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:55.880 no money. 0:02:55.600 --> 0:03:00.360 On him really, I mean, do you work on that 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:04.880 many shows? The fon diveat the living room. I'm a celebrity. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.840 Harry's practice money will still becoming and I imagine Brandy's 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:09.800 become a great mate over the years. He obviously has 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.280 co hosted and filled him many times with us on 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:12.959 the project. 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.120 He was always such a pleasure. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:18.440 Hanging out with him again, both on screen and off screen. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.000 I love Brandy because he doesn't take himself too seriously. 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.840 He's genuinely hilarious. He is a great mate, he really is. 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:28.239 He is as genuine as they come, and I'm bloody 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.560 stoked to be hanging with him today. 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.600 Well, hello, it's Chris Brown here. Dr Chris Brown's I'm 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:44.200 not confused with the other one. My three favorite films 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.560 of all time are We Top Gun. 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.960 You screw up just this much, you'll be flying a 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.840 cargo plan full of Rubbert dog shit out of Hong Kong. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:59.760 Sir, Dumb and Dumber Austria. Well then Good Day Mate, 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.440 and the Secret Life of Walter Mitty. 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.120 The a Jez She Moves Slack a woman. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.880 I'm like that. The film I haven't seen is Chopper, 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.720 The Australian classic Chopper. 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.400 Don't sore at it trying to be general made. You're 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.320 fucking in it, rip into it, slash it off. Yeah, 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:42.560 the other one, Chop, I'm not gonna get me for 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.600 this later. Are you just get on with it? Your 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:52.240 fucking fairy to it? Get a screw, would you? 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.960 I can bleed, Chop, pase, gotta stop a bleeding. Okay, 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:00.480 you can get any COVID. What are you got to 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:01.560 get yourself into the shower? 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:01.840 Right? 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:03.200 Are you talking to me now? 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:08.039 A Hey, after all I've done for you, I took 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.640 you from tears to fucking glory and you do this 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:15.920 to me. I'm not angry at you, Jim just broke 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:16.719 my heart at all. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.880 Yes, it's the movie that almost made us forget that 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.800 there was once a time when Eric Banner was Australia's 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:30.840 premier Ray Martin Impersonator two thousands, Chopper took everyone by 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.280 surprise the story of Celebrity hit Man Yep, that's right, 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:38.320 that's inking celebrity hit Man Mark A. Brandon Chopper read, 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:42.840 who had become a best selling author despite being semi illiterate. 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.039 It not only marked the arrival of Eric Banner on 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.320 the global stage, but also director Andrew Dominic, who went 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.000 on to direct the Assassination of Jesse James by the 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.200 Coward Robert Ford. Great film, starring with Brad Pitt and 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.800 Casey Affleck and also Killing Me Softly brad Pitt again. 0:05:58.000 --> 0:05:58.520 It became the. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.880 Highest grossing R rated movie in Australia until The Wolf 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.760 of Wall Street came along. It's violent, it's intense, and 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.320 somehow really funny. This, of course is thanks to Eric Banner, 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:13.039 whose performance is utterly mesmerizing and maybe one of the 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.239 best screen performances by a local doctor. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.040 Chris Brown. Chopper was a big deal. Do you reckon? 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:20.560 He could have made it on too. I'm a celebrity, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:21.240 Get me out of here. 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.320 It would have made the eating challenges a little interesting 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.920 to pick which year you were you were consuming at 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:34.200 the time. You know, there's already a lack of sleep 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.400 in the in the jungle camp, but I reckon if 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.280 you were, if you were sharing a campsite and a 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:44.359 number of hot pokers with with the Chopper, you probably 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:51.159 wouldn't sleep overly. Well, what a what a character? And look, 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:53.920 I want to say what a film, and we'll get 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.680 to that, But I'm mesmerized by the fact that I 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:01.279 haven't seen it. I don't know how I dodged this one. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.080 Yeah, walk us through that, because I mean, it's been 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:08.159 nominated on this show as various people's favorite films for memory. 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.640 Samuel Johnson nominated it. I think Hughes he may have 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.160 nominated as well. Much Loved was made a lot of 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:20.640 noise because of Eric Banner's performance, you know, succeeded around 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:21.080 the world. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:23.560 You have dismissed it. 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.280 Why why aren't you supporting Australian cinema and Eric Banner? 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:28.280 Chris Brown? 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:32.520 You know me, I mean I despise all of those things. No, 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.600 I think it just happened at a week in time. 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:39.040 I think it came out in two thousand and you 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.200 know that for me was that was a very critical 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.200 time in my veterory career. I was, I was in 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.080 what fourth year of my my veterory studies. I was, 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:52.280 that's pretty a pretty pretty tricky time to to really 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:56.480 sneak out and see a film. But at the same 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:58.160 time it was it was one of those films that 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.760 was so heavily quoted amongst your your mates, like the 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.560 lines from Nevill Bartos, like the I've got no cash mate, cash. 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.040 Anytime someone didn't have money, you would say that line. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.640 I even used that line, but I didn't even know 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.040 what it meant or the context. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:17.800 I think I've been there when you've used that line 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:22.480 as a certain incident in Chinatown with our good mate 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:23.040 Sam Mack. 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.880 Yeah, look, it was it was unfortunate that I didn't 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:32.079 have cash. I mean ironic really now, but I didn't 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.280 have cash to pay for that meal. But you know, 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.000 I would like to think you've got more than you know, 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:41.120 one hundred dollars worth of value out of retelling that 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:45.720 story and insinuating to the nation that I am arguably 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.199 astray as premier tighter, which which has been something you 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.319 haven't even gone close to stepping away from in terms 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:53.079 of an accusation. 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.480 No, no, but the already is that. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:09:00.440 So we had a meal in Chinatown and and there's 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.600 the three of us are having a great time, and 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.679 you did you didn't have any cash and in need 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.080 of the cash, so you had no cash. 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.319 You said your cards, they're only accepting cash. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.760 And we have turned that into yes, you being the 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.760 biggest Titus in the world, because the irony is the 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.600 fact that we've made such a big deal kind of 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.040 insinuates that where the tight us is really because the 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.560 mayor was probably it was probably forty bucks. 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:25.280 That's probably what it was. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.920 Yeah, I mean, you're not letting it go. I have 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.200 felt many times that I would just like send you 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.360 an envelope with cash in it just to put an 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.000 end to this. But I've started to enjoy it because 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.480 it gives me an interesting peaking to your mindset and 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.560 the fact that you just simply cannot let things go. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.400 And they were good did sims don't or dim sum 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.560 don't get me wrong, get it right, get it right. Yeah, 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.760 but we need to we need to move on. We 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.280 need to find a way through this. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.840 Okay, Well, let's move on to your three favorite films. 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.000 And they respect to you, Chris Brown. Often people come 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.120 on to this show and they feel the. 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:03.920 Need to you know, big up there, hybrow, highbrow. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:09.880 You know there's no French classics here, no French new wave. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.760 Let's start with Dumb and Dumber. I mean to be honest, 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:19.400 Dumb and Dumber has been nominated a few times actually, 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:25.160 so you're not alone. I'm forgetting who nominated that. It's 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.959 been quite a few guests have nominated that Dumb and dumber, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:28.840 So you're not alone. 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.800 Tell us about your love of the of the of 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:32.360 the classic. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:34.880 So it's not just in my top three, it's actually 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.800 my number one film right all time. 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:37.280 Okay. 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.319 I just I love it, and I love it deeply, 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.560 and if I'm ever at a loose end, I will 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:51.240 put it on because I love the absurdity, the complete stupidity. 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:56.360 But I love the comedy and the setup to the 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:00.720 payoff of some of the best visual physical many you'll 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:05.079 you'll ever see. And I you know, there are some 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:09.360 some really incredible moments in there, like the and and 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:13.719 incredible lines, you know, like the John Denver's Full of Shit. 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:14.000 Man. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.640 Is is just they're in a in the they're in 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:23.440 a van shaped like a dog, which like a sheep dog, 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:28.079 and and and they you know, they believe they're in 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.280 the Rocky mountains, and then they wake up and they're 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.720 on the planes of like Idaho or something. It's just just, 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:34.880 you know, and it's not the rocky mountains that John 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.320 Denver had sung about, so I and then the you know, 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:42.920 the taking the motorcycle through the rocky mountains and the 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.960 frozen solid to each other. It's it's a movie that 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.640 it's it's tricky to explain and do justice to without 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.280 sounding so absurd that it's it's it's actually ridiculous. But 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:59.120 I love. I love the character arcs. I love Mary's Sampson, 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:04.600 Sampson Ightes Wanson, I love I love the fact that 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:08.000 it is a love story. It's a story of unrequired love, 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:12.040 but in the most absurd way. And I love the 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.320 endings as well, the fact that they get to the 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.680 end and they're just trying to be somebody, They just 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:23.400 want to have somebody, and the the the bus pulls 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:28.800 up with the with the American Bikini Model team on it, 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:34.000 and they they need someone to rub oil on them 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:39.560 before they compete, and the guys don't realize that they're 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.960 offering the opportunity to them, and they think that they're 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.480 best served going to the nearest town because there's heaps 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:50.200 of people there. And it's you know, it doesn't have 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.240 the class classic Hollywood happy ending. It goes off in 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:58.920 a different direction. And I hear that Jim Carrey they 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.400 wanted him to shoot the ending where they did with 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.640 the two guys did get on the bus with the 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:09.400 American Bikini modeling team and it all ended happily, and 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.200 he would not even shoot the scene because he said 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.640 the studio will use it. These guys have got to 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:18.400 be losers to the end and completely missed the opportunity. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.920 And so I respect that. I respect the story, I 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.679 respect the narrative, I respect that the costumes, I respect. 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:28.760 I just respect the whole thing. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.320 I mean, I think we're getting a good look into 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:35.880 your soul right now, but you know, before respect It's 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.960 funny I chatted to Jim Carrey, had the honor of 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.480 chatting with them just after the Oscars. Actually it's quite 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.520 an interesting week because of the Will Smith and Chris 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.080 Ruck incident. But what I learned about Jim Carrey in 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.719 that interview is actually, to be honest, out of all 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:57.160 the interviews I've done on the project, it was the 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.400 most where I felt like I came away going, I reckon, 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.439 I've learned a little bit about you, you know, like. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.680 Because what what what came out of it for me 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.920 was that Jim Carrey is an artist, you know. 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.840 And I kind of knew this, like I knew he painted, 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.000 and like I knew I knew that he considered himself 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.320 an artist. But talking to him, I could actually see 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.800 it made more sense to me, and he he would 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:27.520 do things like when he was becoming famous, like sabotage 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.000 his own stand up comedy gigs because he was like, 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.320 he goes in his mind, he was saying to the audience, 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.480 you think you know what you're going to get, and 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:39.200 I'm not going to give that to you. And so he'll, yeah, 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.080 sabotage his own gigs. And I think, and that's such 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:43.960 a great thing that he didn't shoot that ending, because 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:45.920 I mean, I've been in situations, you know, and I 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.600 think Rove taught it to me where you're doing a 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.720 photo shoot and a photographer say, Okay, let's just get 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:51.440 a silly. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:55.360 One and no, and they're like, oh, why not, and he. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.320 Goes because you'll use it, like you know, like, don't 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.640 give him if you don't believe in thin, don't give 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.560 them the option to use it. 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.120 It's completely I had a really interesting lesson in that. 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:07.920 A couple of had a really interesting lesson in that 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.080 a few years ago, a you know, the end of 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.440 the year, you have to give your You often get 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.720 approached by the newspapers to give your news resolutions. Yep, 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.240 and they just want they just want to cut they 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.000 want one sentence. They want simplicity because it has to 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:24.720 be put next to a photo of you with twenty 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.760 other people from neighbors home and away or you know, 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:31.960 and and you're like, okay. But I decided to try 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.120 to like be a little bit out there and give 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:41.640 them something unexpected. So my news resolution was was and 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.960 and I quote because we always do the opposite of 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.960 our news resolutions. My news resolution is to work less 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:54.320 and party more. And when it came to when they 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:58.560 published that article, it had doctor Chris Brown news resolution 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:05.880 work less, party moore, which raised a few eyebrows around 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:06.320 the network. 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:07.560 Yeah, and less. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.320 People were bringing their dogs to be put down, you 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:16.840 know by you. That is hilarious. Yeah, you gotta be careful. 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.200 You gotta be careful. But the thing that I really 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.840 got out of the Jim Carrey thing was he he 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.680 knows that he lives in a crazy world, like he 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:30.480 lives in Hollywood. Well, he works in Hollywood, and he knows, 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.960 he recognizes that it's crazy, so he does things to 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.600 make sure that he is constantly aware that it's a 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:45.520 crazy world. Where Will Smith, on the other hand, I 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.480 think it got to the point and I've interviewed Will 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.680 Smith over the years a few times, and I've always 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:51.840 come away from the interviews been really impressed. 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:51.960 With Will Smith. 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:55.480 I'm not This is not me slagging Will Smith, but 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.440 I think he maybe got to a point where he 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.800 forgot that he lives in a crazy world, that this 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.880 is the things that happened around him and that orbit 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:08.960 around him are not normal like hollywoods on a normal place. 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.960 The things, the way these people are treated by the 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.560 people around them is not normal. And I think Jim 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.760 Carrey recognized that, and I think potentially someone like I'm 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.600 just using Will Smith because he was the big story 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:24.840 at the time, he maybe lost I guess it's the 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:26.200 whole concept of losing touch. 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:27.480 He lost touch with reality. 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.000 I think, yeah, rather than drinking the kool aid, it 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.600 feels like Jim Carrey spikes it and then sits back 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.919 and watches the results. Almost He's an interesting guy and 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:42.400 very clearly a very deep thinker, despite what his films, 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.760 his comedy Dumb and Dumb and they suggest. But I 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:49.360 think the thinking that goes into the stupidity is what 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:51.520 I really like. And when you see it and you 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.520 see the depth of it, and you also appreciate the 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:59.360 fact that his role call of films, there are very 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.439 few people who could have brought the characters to life 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.720 like he did. You know, Cable Cable. 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:05.879 Guy, and. 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.320 You know, all of the mask and all those things, 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.760 which a lot of people were sort of put off 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:16.560 sometimes by the absurdity and by the level of performance. 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.800 But he just he just gives so much. 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:20.600 Yeah. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:25.320 Yeah, it takes a lot, and it's genuine skills to 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.479 do what he what he does, and I mean, I 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.800 love I mean Cable Guy was my introduction to Jim Carrey. 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.240 For some reason, I was actually put off by the 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:37.199 bigness of Jim Carrey. So it wasn't until Cable Guy, 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.400 which I saw because I love Matthew Broderick, and I thought, ah, 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.520 I get it now. And then I kind of went 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.640 back and watched those films again and kind of had 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.400 a new appreciation for them. And then his work obviously 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.600 when he goes through his Robin Williams deep Pelt Society 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:56.200 stage and you know with The Truman Show and Eternal Sunshine, 0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:00.439 the Spotless Mind, incredible incredible performer. 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.240 The warm up sequence when in Cable Guy, where Jim 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.080 Carrey has gone to play basketball with him and does 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.720 a warm up sequence where he does the shuttle runs 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.040 back and forth. It's one of my favorite scenes of 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.360 any movie ever. It is quite extraordinary. 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:17.000 If you haven't seen Cable Guy, you get the bonus 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:22.160 of early Jack Black Early Owen Wilson in the very 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:27.160 funny film Got a Dark Comedy, And I do remember 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:29.480 the line I love was I learned the facts. I 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.000 learned the facts of life by watching the Facts of Life. 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:35.679 That was one of the sitcoms that was pretty popular 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.480 now House Growing Up. 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.120 And Jim Carrey. Jim Carey also gave I reckon one 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:47.280 of the most authentic performances of rhinoceros being born in 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:54.280 Acepentura Pet Detective too, that scene where he's stuck inside 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:59.480 the fake rhinoceros and births himself in front of the tourists. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.720 That is I don't think you'll see a comedy performance 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:03.720 better than that. 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.119 You're a vet was it accurate? Like? Were you watching it? 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:08.679 They've nailed this, They've nailed this. 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.160 That's what I was drawn to it. It's remarkably authentic, 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.399 and I mean they could have included that in the 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:18.040 vetory science syllabus. It's that good. 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.080 Let's move on to a Top Gun, my next typer 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:23.560 Ow film. 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:28.399 I know it's yeah, we did this with Tony Martin 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:30.159 had never seen Top Gun, believe it or not, and 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.640 we watched it. It's funny when you watch it as 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:38.320 an adult, and I watch it because I loved it 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:42.000 as a kid, and I like and I'm not I'm 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:43.960 not turning my back on Top Gun. But when you 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:45.639 watch it through the eyes of somebody watching it for 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:49.000 the first time, particularly like a cinephile like Tony, you 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.359 kind of go you see everything that's kind of silly 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.520 and wrong about it, as opposed to when I watched 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:57.600 it in the cinema in you know, eighty six and 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:01.640 then many times on VHS afterwards and just just loved it. 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.520 You know, I was all on board the tom Cruise Express. 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:08.560 It's it's a very different experience. So do you see it? 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:09.960 When did you first see it? 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:13.320 I saw it in the cinema when I when I 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:17.199 was a kid. And I mean I should preface this 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.600 by saying that that as a kid, I all I 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:23.879 wanted to do was be a pilot. Okay, I'm sex 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:27.600 with planes and still to this day I'm I can 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:29.560 you know, if a plane flies over, I can tell 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:31.480 you what sort of plane it is and probably where 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:33.919 it's going. It's a it's a little bit it's a 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:38.160 little bit rain Man esque. Another great film, but it's 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.680 I've always been fascinated with with aviation, and and I've 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.800 had a few flying lessons, but I've always been hampered 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:49.160 by the fact that I am significantly color blind, and 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:52.119 so I think a little bit of this film was 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:57.200 me living vicariously through this this this film, this film, 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:01.520 and this experience. So I when I watched it, I 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:04.840 just fell in love with the action. And it's an 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:07.800 action film, but it's an action film at you know, 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:13.080 ten thousand feet like it's and sure that the whole 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:17.560 film is predicated upon the you know, the time Tom 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:22.240 Cruise is inverted upside down with a MiG and they 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.600 get the polaroid shot between him and Goose, get this 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.440 polaroid shot of them flipping the bird at a MiG 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:33.800 pilot and the two canopies of the planes are about 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:38.919 like ten centimeters apart, and it completely ignores the fact 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:47.240 that the tales of those planes are about twenty meters high, 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:50.359 and like that was an aviation accident that should have 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:54.160 occurred but didn't, and so somehow the tails are ignored 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:57.640 in this they get upside down inverted, they get they 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:01.080 have this close contact. It makes Maverick Tom Cruise a 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:04.000