WEBVTT - Olivia Swann & Todd Lasance - NCIS SYDNEY - Actors 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:02.920 TV Reload. 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.080 The podcast last weep that line. Welcome back, guys to 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:08.000 TV Reload. As you may know, my name is Benjamin 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:10.360 Norris and this is your podcast to get all the 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:13.400 inside goss on the popular TV shows that you may 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:16.560 be watching from around the world. Underniably, our TV sets 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.160 are a major part of our home entertainment, and yet 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.400 very little is known about how our favorite shows get made. 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.000 So each episode I've been finding the guests that want 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.360 to dive just that little bit deeper into the shows 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.040 that they're currently making, so that you can hear all 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.800 the exclusive stories and gain access to some of the 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.360 biggest names in Australian television. I want to thank you 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.640 for downloading or subscribing to this podcast however you found me. 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.239 I love hearing your feedback, so make sure you leave 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.280 a review or a comment on your chosen podcast platform. 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.320 On today's podcast, I'm joined by two of the stuffs 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:51.080 from NCIS Sydney, Olivia Swan and Todd Lasance, who are 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.040 fantastic in these roles, which I'm very excited to talk 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:58.160 about today. NCIS Sydney is set amongst the spectacular backdrop 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.600 of one of the world's most breathtaking Harvard City, Sydney, Australia. 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:05.400 Of course, the first ever international series from the global 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.200 NCAIS franchise has already premiered on Paramount Plus this week, 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.800 and I have to say I'm already hooked on the drama. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.440 I will find out about the infamous bond the actors 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.600 formed on the set and what it was like to 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.960 step into these new characters iconically connected to the NCIS universe. 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.959 Todd will talk about the importance of strong women on 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.320 screen and why he was beyond impressed with Olivia's acting 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.840 chops taking on this role. Olivia will then talk about 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.800 being cast in NCIS Sydney after the River Wild and 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:36.920 what it was like to work in Australia on such 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.000 a big production. Plus, we will get plenty of exclusives 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.479 from behind the scenes of NCIS Sydney, which you can 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:46.560 now watch on Paramount Plus. Anyway, guys, let's bring Olivia 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.000 and Todd into the podcast and guys, I hope you 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.000 enjoy this very exciting look at NCIS Sydney, which I 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.120 can't wait for you guys to watch. Hi, how are 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:55.560 you both? 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:57.960 Are we lit well? This is actually great, Lily. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:01:59.240 Yeah, I'll take this natural light. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.000 You should have seen that trash. I looked in that, 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:03.880 but you better not be recording that. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.960 I myself have just some natural lighting happening. I'm in 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.360 Warburton and in regional Victoria. So and also I haven't 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:12.840 a little fire in the back that looks like the 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.519 fires one of those fireplaces that's tried to burn down 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:16.600 the house. I think it's just the light. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.360 Hey, question, is this your place? 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.760 No? No, no, this is so. This is our holiday house, 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:23.640 so I come here. 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.160 Further, is it an actual log cabin. 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.079 It's made of actual log so as you can see here, 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.320 if the lights on the other side, from where the 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.400 sun is, you can can sometimes see the light coming 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.520 through the log. So you really do need the fire on. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:40.400 I'm so impressed you have this. 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:42.520 The spliders get in right. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:44.840 I was just about to say that to you because 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.720 you'd be really scared. So one thing about this place 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.320 is we have a lot of huntsmen's. 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:52.720 Now yeah, look, I'm not going to. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:57.280 Lie I that because the house is trying to burn 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:58.000 itself down. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:03.800 Load spiders. I don't like huntsmans. And if I have huntsmen, 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.600 if there's any activists, insect activists out there, turn your 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:11.119 ears off. I will relocate them to a better life 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:13.880 because I don't want them coming back in. Like we 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.000 had one the other day and it was like monster 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:17.519 in the house and I was like, yeah, I don't 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:18.679 need to think about that at night. 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.600 Oh yeah, I think if you were as scared of spiders, 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.200 you'd probably have left. You traveled back home to Melbourne 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:24.840 by that stage. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.400 Yeah, I love it. You got a log cabin, I 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:31.560 mean very brief. You get a sprayed see every week, 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:32.880 every week. 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.200 Every week, and I actually do have. Anyway, we're going 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.800 off on a tangent here is about seek to repellent 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:39.600 and be like, I've got this right on the ready, 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:43.160 so just engage. Anyway, this show is so exciting, and 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.440 you know what's really nice about this is the ground 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.960 swell about you all working on this show was that 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.000 you all had a lot of fun and that the 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:52.560 cast really clicked. 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:57.360 It's so hard to kind of describe without sounding completely 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.800 like you're just saying it for the sake of seeing it. 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:04.720 But when we say click to instantly family vibes from 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:09.440 the goal, the level of vulnerability and safety and security 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:14.720 and support from day one was off the charts, and. 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.320 The first week, well, I don't think we mentioned this, 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.760 but the first week we went to a dinner together 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.839 and we went around the table and we each talked 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.640 about the struggles, what it took to get to this moment, 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.640 what it means to be, how much it means to 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.400 us as far as from an emotional standpoint, family standpoint, 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.600 career standpoint, and we all had moments of just being 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.479 in tears at one point or the other, and it 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.680 was like, this is it for us, and we live 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.800 because we do so much together. I felt like I 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.839 gained a sister. I remember calling my wife and my 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:50.200 family just going I've literally gained another family member. And 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.880 to go to set each day and have that support 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.480 and trust is one in a million. It's one of 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:02.919 those things where it's like it's almost frustratingly perfect, because 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.160 you're like, we just want to do this. 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.720 Forever, and I just feel like it's jobs are now 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.039 ruined because you can get. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.880 Better than this, you won't. You've set a benchmark, which 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:12.560 is okay. 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.960 To being back on your point. I kind of just 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.920 also couldn't believe that I was working with someone who 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.960 is just so impeccable on like every single level. So 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:27.200 like I'm paying so as a friend, as a co worker, 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:32.560 as a human like Todd brought every level of enthusiasm 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.719 and passion and joy to work every single day, and 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.159 even with offset, it was just the best vibe. And 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.080 I couldn't have asked for anyone better to share most 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.240 of my scenes, but it was just well it was 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:44.920 so beautiful. 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.320 You go, I member, you can't manufact manufacture this stuff. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:48.640 I mean they try and manufacture. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:53.840 We hope that that chemistry translates because we are having 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.120 so much fun. And I've said before that this is 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.480 this is like a bit more of a technical acting 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.520 industry side of things, but so much stuff you get 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.560 sent where you're like, yeah, I'll do it because you 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.880 need a job, but the subject matter or the tone 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.479 of it, or the people involved, but this ticks like 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.320 every single box. So to go to work every day, 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.440 and I had the birth of my child throughout the 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.000 whole process. You know, we had medical elements that were 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:19.960 going on as well to do with that as any 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.120 birth sort of does. And then coming to work with 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.000 that stress and being able to pour that into Olivia 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.640 and the cast and have that one hundred percent support 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.080 and still be delivering every day and doing sixty five 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.880 hour weeks and not sleeping, and like it's huge. It's 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.240 like you you know, it make or breaks people. But 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.039 we if that translates on screen, then I think we 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:40.120 have something really special. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.680 It is translating. I mean I've only seen the first 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:46.039 four episodes, but yes, it does translate. It does feel 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.520 like there's a vibe there. I hope Olivia, that you've 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.560 been asked to be the godmother? Is that what's going 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:50.920 on here? 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:55.280 I'm waiting for the fictle invitation. But I will add 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.520 that I went back to London with really deep laugh 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:03.400 lines because I spent everything every single day, I laughed 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.800 and I smiled without the doubt. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.400 Yeah, and it was the best. 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.240 Well yeah, I was going to say, well, NCAA Sydney 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.080 is finally you know, it's finally here. And it feels 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.280 like we've been owed an Australian version of this show 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.240 for quite some time. You know, we've had seen the 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.640 American ones. They're all hugely stupidly popular, you know, with Hawaii, 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.320 Los Angeles, New Orleans. Do you know how long they 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:29.200 were circling the idea of bringing the franchise internationally and 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.280 how they came to want to do it in Australia 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.160 versus maybe England or anywhere else. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:37.400 I actually don't know what the exception idea was, but 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.600 it's been quite a while because the inception of the 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.440 idea needs to be pitched. Then they need to go 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.080 into the writer's room and then pitch, hey, what would 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.760 you do? That needs to get approved, Then the series 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.080 needs to be developed, then they need to write it. 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:52.960 And I think they were just they were tossing up 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.320 where to do it, like would it be in Europe, 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.120 would it be you know, Australia, somewhere else? And it's 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.800 that they were all those ideas on but in terms 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.440 of length of thought process, I have no idea. 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.320 I don't know. I'm assuming it would have been boiling 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:07.960 around for a couple of years at least, and then 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.200 you know, what is it a six month process to write? 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.280 So it's a big you know, and you have a 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.200 big writer's team that steps in and as you know, 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.840 I mean, you're joining a family, but you're also joining 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.480 a highly successful franchise, so it's like you've got to 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.200 bring that energy and you've got to match it and 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:23.600 you've got to step up and it's got to be 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.000 on that level, and it's got to be in the 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.400 right tone, and you know, so there's a lot of Yeah, 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.880 there's a lot of working parts to it because they 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:31.160 know they know what they want. 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.440 You know, Olivia, what was your relationship with the show? 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.880 I mean, did you watch a lot of ncas over 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:37.840 the years? I mean it's been on television for nearly 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:38.520 two decades. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.040 I mean no, honestly, I didn't watch much of it. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.240 But it's one of those shows that you know of 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.760 it even if you've never seen an episode. So it's 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.360 just like everybody knows. 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:48.880 That you needed to go to a log cabin like 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:52.120 where I am and just a real deep dive into 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:53.360 the show. We're joining it. 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.200 I didn't it once I got cast. I checked out 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.520 the original. I checked out Hawaii, just I think more 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:03.000 to get a the world and you know what kind 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.640 of tone it was and how it operated. But I 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.040 think more than that, I don't know. I didn't want 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.320 infringe on creating something new to be part of that 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:15.040 and true, you know, just allow what we're creating to 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.760 be organic and not to be too preconceived. 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.840 And it's a fine life. Yeah, it's a really fine 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:21.959 You do your research and it's like great, but then 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:23.920 you don't want to match any of the energy because 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:24.960 they you want. 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.280 To personate it. Right, Like I said, it will all 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:27.920 be the same. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.120 So true, so true. And I think the nuance of 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:35.440 ours is that it is different geographically, but also with 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.960 all the other traditional ncis as it's been, and this 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.080 is not a comparison. This is just a new, fresh approach. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.520 They've been established like families, like here's the new family 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.240 that you're going to go on the journey with. Great, 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.760 here's the new team. Whereas our teams there's two separate teams. 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.920 We're colliding. There's cultural differences, there's. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:54.679 The two top dogs that want. 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.760 To be on top. Whose jurisdiction is it who takes 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.000 the lead on this? But then there's also this fluidity 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.840 in this. It's like like water flowing between the two 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.440 of us, where when we're on the job, man, that 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.480 synergy is there and we know how to work together. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.080 But then it's also there's always that clashing and they 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.280 never drop that. You know when you see a series 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.880 and it's like, oh, I love this friction between them. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.200 And then by episode six it's like, no, we're besties. 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:18.760 They eat that tension. 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.079 I think Mark and you keep each other accountable. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:22.320 Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.959 About those popular shows though, like The X Files with 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.040 you know, David Dakogne. You know, they managed to do 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:29.800 nine seasons, no, I think it might have been even 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.240 ten seasons of that show, and they were able to 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.200 create like a tension that didn't ever subside. Like it 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.160 just made you want to delve a little bit deeper 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.240 into those characters, and you have to build a very 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.800 rich character to be able to have that space still 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.240 maintaining that kind of friction, which I would say to 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.559 me as a non actor, that would be very hard 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:51.240 to put together. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:52.959 You know, depends on it. 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.480 But it's that same thing of like I think that's 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.040 why we all talk about it so much because you 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.720 don't have this. This doesn't happen. You can't. You never 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.760 get a chance, or you're not never. But it's very 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.840 rare that you step into a situation it's like, let's go. 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.000 On the same page. Everyone's all in. I'm just so 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.600 ready to commit. You'll see towards the end of the 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:20.880 season the work that Todd does with JD is just 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:25.719 it's unbelievable and his ability to just be so vulnerable 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:30.360 and to open himself and the character up in such 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.680 a beautiful, heartbreaking way. And I think, you know, that's 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.600 just a testament to you, but also to the family 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.920 and the vibe that we created to create this safety 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:41.880 that he was able to feel like he could do. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.640 That, and I did need that for sure. It's hard 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:49.800 to encapsulate across like a career, but this would be again, 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.240 this is probably like a nice little lead in as 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.720 to where we go to and something unique to the 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.640 NCIS franchise that we've never seen before. I got to 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.000 go to an emotional place and an emotional tensity that 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.080 I don't think I've experienced for ten years in my career. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.640 So it's like they wrote that for me. They gave 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.520 us that that they gave me that gift to bring 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.480 for you know, the series finale, and then I had 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.520 to step in with a livery and we're like, we're 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.719 doing this, you know, will You've got to jump off 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.160 the off the ledge together and go full trust because 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.280 I wouldn't be able to try to deliver these moments 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.840 and do them justice if it wasn't for her being 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.199 there and going I got you every day, let's you know, 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.160 and it's a month. You're shooting that for a month, 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.640 and a lot of the content was trying not to 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:35.880 give away, but like close to home as well, So 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.400 it was very it was it was the actor's dream 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:44.559 as far as getting to, you know, have an opportunity 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.320 to expand your work and on and on a large 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.000 scale too, which is really exciting. But I just went 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:52.600 all in on it, and I just hope that it 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.839 sort of translates because you would never expect that sort 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.199 of thing from an NCIS. So it's that's that's exciting too. 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.439 They've got they've got that emotional payoff at the end, 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.480 but they've also got this overarching enemy and this threat 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:10.680 and potentially a threat from within too, which they don't 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.360 they haven't dealt in before too. So it's exciting. 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.960 And with a lot of shows that are franchised overseas, 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.719 you know you are still comparing it episode on episode 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.800 with audiences. With this, there is an access point which 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.480 is great, and that's given by the ends to CIS brand, 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.560 But the characters are so compelling that we're actually moving 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.440 away from that each episode that again it's hard for 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:33.559 us to have that perspective. 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.320 So that's good you see that, Ben, because we don't. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.800 You know, we haven't seen a lot either and seeing 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.520 it as a we've been there through the whole process, 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.720 but that doesn't mean we can see it with a 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.839 third eye because we've been so invested in it. We 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.120 need to see all the eight episodes back to back 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.600 to that. Okay, I understand that, but that's what we want. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.440 You want that give them something different and give give 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.240 the hardcore fans what they want to see as well, 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.320 but also push the boundaries, which I feel they are. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.960 In this totually agree. I think, Yeah, not afraid to 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.199 do certain things with characters or have characters that are 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.120 kind of just shifting away from what we used to. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:11.920 Yeah, especially by the end, it'd be like, oh, okay, right, 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.800 this is what we're capable of bringing in, you know, 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:16.120 storylines to Yeah. 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.600 I would have really liked to have known, though, is 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.800 did you get any access to these real life people? 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:23.600 You know, it's crazy. I don't know if you're aware. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.800 And we love saying this. This is there's real NCIS Sydney. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.600 There's like actual agents. They came to set. We had 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.320 the NCIS teams here. They're based in Sydney and Perth. 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:33.240 They're fantastic. 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:38.040 Ah, just so wonderfully excited about what we were doing. 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:40.440 Literally just they could have believe it. We're like, oh, 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:41.720 we get to meet you and they're like, no, we're 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:42.160 meeting you. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.240 And yeah. They came to set about four or five times. 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:46.920 They were like can we come back? And I'm like, mate, 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.160 we want you here. Every day they were. They were 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.520 so giving. They had federal police visit, we had detectives visits. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:57.040 We also had actual needy personnel as extras and scenes. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:02.360 Okay, that helps you as well show that these people 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.360 are real and offer a different dimension as well. Like 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.520 you think about the idea of playing somewhat one of 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.880 these characters and you you know, you are bringing sort 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.240 of a stern character to this, you know, and then 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.400 when you're actually meeting these real people that you can 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.239 see the different dimensions to a person's personality. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:20.080 You've got to highlight certain elements too and make it 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.680 for camera too. So it's always a it's always just 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.720 finding that fine line. You want to do them justice 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.640 and you want to you want to correctly portray the people, 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.880 but then there's a heightened version of like you know, 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.160 s cis that we're kicking outdoors and you know what 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.840 I mean, that's the fun part. But they were honestly 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.160 so saying with the Navy far out. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.160 Well, I was curious to know because you know, in 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.920 Australia and you know, we think of Americans being really arrogant. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.480 Are you leaning into some of those stereotypes or are 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:46.760 you exploring it a little bit deeper? 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:52.800 Well, I think both. We're i think allowing the reality 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.840 of the cultures and of you know, people who come 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.280 from those worlds to exist. But I think we're really 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:03.080 rooting it in truth and reality and just. 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.120 It's not aca, it'scature. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:06.360 I think that's the difference. 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.800 But also the Australians will be able to get the australianisms, 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.720 the Americans will get the americanisms, and then the clashes 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:16.360 will also make sense too. It's not too heavy, hard hitting, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.080 but that again is the tone events as to like, 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.520 you know, make it a little bit more. It's fun, 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.240 it's it's lighthearted. People can switch this on and have 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.280 it in the background or watch every episode and be 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.440 die hard fans, and it's it's. 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.080 That no watch every episode. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:33.920 Yeah, that's what I mean like that. 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.040 Right that back, maybe maybe home and away or neighbors 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:37.960 you'd have a you know what. 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.840 I meant by the background. No, it's not like heavy, like, 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.840 oh Jesus, I've got to watch an evidence is I'm 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:45.240 going to go. 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.280 To It's not bleak, you know, like it's Yeah, it. 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:52.760 Has a beautiful like shift from lighthelf too serious ground. 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.280 But I mean, I guess you know special Agent Michelle, 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:57.840 she's quite arrogant when she starts out, you know in 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.520 the show, like as in you pull that off really 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.960 well well, so friendly and smiling and. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.080 A lot of exactly I was ahead of. 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:07.119 You in the first episode. 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.400 That's great, No, Matthew Is she's a woman who knows 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.159 what she wants. She do things her way. She comes 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:18.560 in heart, and she's very stubborn. And I love that 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:23.080 we're not scared about showcasing a woman who is She's 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.600 not trying to be agreeable, she's not trying to be liked, 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.640 she's not trying to be best mate with everyone has 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.000 her own strength and she leads with that and I 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.440 just find her so inspiring and I just think she's 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.399 an incredible woman to be showcasing on TV. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.280 Yeah, yeah, I'm picturing all the moments too where they 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:40.840 give little breadcrumbs to. 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.280 I don't think any strong personal character, their strength comes 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:50.320 from a place of pain or heartbreak or protection and 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:51.880 struggle and all these kind of things. 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:52.560 And there are. 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.800 Little moments where we see the little gaps. 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.560 In her armor to unlock her a little bit. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.520 And that's where the contrast with j Day, the Alaric 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.520 and the country boy that he ribs her all the 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.119 time and it's always just paying her out, but he 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.760 unlocks those little elements of vulnerability. He sees it and 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.520 he's like, oh, I'm going to bank that for later, 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.960 and you get an understanding as to why she is 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:13.600 the way that she is, you know what I mean. 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.240 It is an armor that people put up. But I, 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:21.240 for one, from an outside perspective, love what Live brought 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:26.000