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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Josh.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, and good morning to you listener.

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Speaker 1: NT Friday, I would imagine was quite a terrible situation

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Speaker 2: But how are people feeling in Alice?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Josh, have you I'm not sure whether you've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Josh, I mean you said it yourself.

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Speaker 2: We're all territorians.

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Speaker 3: I can assure you it will be Katie, and we

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Speaker 3: We want a real response. We don't just want the

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Speaker 3: Let you spoke about these policies about serious consequences for

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Speaker 3: Thanks Katie, I really appreciate the opportunity.

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