1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud Order 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Order Kerney Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before we 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: get started on She's on the Money podcast, I would 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land of 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country, acknowledging 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming through 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing and 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: the storytelling of you to make a difference for today 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: and lasting impact for tomorrow. Let's get into it. 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: She's on the Money, She's on the Money. 11 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome back to She's on the Money podcast 12 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: that makes personal finance feel a little less daunting and 13 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: a lot more doable. I want to know, do you 14 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: ever find yourself looking around to what others are doing 15 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: and feel left behind like everyone else was taking off 16 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: life goals while you were busy just enjoying the ride. 17 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: Or do you go back and look at your young 18 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: years and think, seriously, where did all that money go? 19 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: Well? Today, I'm right here with you. 20 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: Victoria Devine, your personal finance hype girl. This episode is 21 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: all about flipping the script on how you can see 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: your past and realizing that your youth it wasn't wasted, 23 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: even if your savings account doesn't necessarily agree. I saw 24 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: a post on socials recently that said, sorry, I didn't 25 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: save money in my twenties, I was learning to love myself, 26 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: and for me. 27 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 4: That really hit home because I feel like I. 28 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: Spent a majority of my twenties just trying to keep 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: up with I don't know the Joneses or the Kardashians. 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: We can all feel a little lost when we start 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: measuring our lives against everyone else's highlight reel. It's tempting 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: to look back and think, oh my gosh, I should 33 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: have done things so differently. But it's important to remember 34 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: that every choice, every misstep, and every adventure has played 35 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: a role in getting us here. So let's cut ourselves 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: a little bit of slack and embrace the lessons we've 37 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: learned along the way. A great place to start is 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: by acknowledging that your twenties are a time of exploration 39 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: of life, love, and yes, sometimes spending money like there's 40 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: absolutely no tomorrow, whether it's traveling, dining out, or buying 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: those must have festival tickets. The money we spend in 42 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: our twenties often goes towards experiences that help us understand 43 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: ourselves better. This is all completely normal, and in fact, 44 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: there was some research done by event Bright that found 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: that seventy eight percent of gen Z prefers spending their 46 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: money on experience over material things. It's all about living 47 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: in the moment, and honestly, I totally get it. When 48 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: I was in my twenties, my your money was I'll 49 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 3: just pay it back when I get more of it. 50 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 4: I'll just organize it when. 51 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: I earn more. I'll just spend less when life gets serious, 52 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 3: and that's pretty normal. According to ASIK, one in four 53 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: gen zs have less than one thousand dollars in personal savings, 54 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: including eight percent who have none, and on average gen 55 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: Z estimate having personal debt of eighty one hundred and 56 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: eighty eight dollars each. 57 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: That's a lot of money. 58 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: In fact, studies have shown that the average person doesn't 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: start saving seriously until they're well into their thirties. According 60 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: to the ABS or the Australian Bureau of Statistics, the 61 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: median age for buying a first home in Australia is 62 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: now thirty four a really clear sign that financial milestones 63 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: are happening a little bit later for many of us. 64 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: So if you're feeling behind, my friend, you are definitely 65 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: not alone. I'm going to take a break, but stick 66 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: around because when we come back, we're going to dive 67 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: into why your brain might just be the culprit. Welcome back, 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: my friend. And here's where it gets a little bit interesting, 69 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: a little bit spicy. Per se your brain, specifically the 70 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: prefrontal cortex, or the part that's responsible for decision making, 71 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: and your impulse control doesn't fully develop until you're about 72 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: twenty five years old. So when you look back and 73 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: think why did I spend so much money on that, well, 74 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: your brain was still figuring things out as well. Another 75 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: powerful force in our twenties is instant gratification, something I'm 76 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: incredibly guilty of, which leads to higher spending and less 77 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: in savings. When you see something that you want, like 78 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 3: the latest iPhone or a weekend get away, the urge 79 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: to have it immediately can overshadow the long term benefits 80 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: of saving that money instead. This tendency to prioritize immediate 81 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: rewards is a really common struggle among young adults. Research 82 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: from The American Psychological Association highlights how this drive for 83 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: instant gratification can completely derail financial stability. It's not just 84 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: about impulse purchases. It's a psychological challenge that makes it 85 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 3: harder to delay gratification in favor of long term financial success. 86 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 3: This is a critical factor in understanding the financial habits 87 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: of young adults and why saving often takes a back 88 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: seat to spending. And let's not forget about that tendency 89 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: to focus on short term goals. When you're in your twenties. 90 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: Retirement feels like an entire lifetime away, so it's really 91 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 3: easy to prioritize short term spending over long term saving. 92 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: Another massive thing you're dealing with is social comparison in 93 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: your twenties, and in my twenties, you were constantly bombarded 94 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: with what everyone else was doing. They're traveling the world, 95 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: they're partying, and they're having fun, and it's hard not. 96 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: To feel like you need to keep up. This pressure 97 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 4: can drive. 98 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: Spending beyond your means just to match what you see 99 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: around you. And that's exactly how I ended up in 100 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: more than forty thousand dollars worth of personal debt in 101 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: my twenties. Finally, there's that risk taking behavior we need 102 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: to chat about. Your twenties are often when you're most 103 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: willing to take financial risks or jump out of a 104 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: helicopter like I did. Whether it's through investments or big purchases. 105 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: The belief that there's plenty of time to recover from 106 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: potential losses can lead to decisions that might not be 107 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: the wisest in the long run. Understanding these psychological factors 108 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: is going to help you make sense of your financial 109 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: decisions in your twenties and not crucify yourself so much. 110 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: We often hear this narrative that if you didn't start 111 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: saving in your twenties, you're somehow completely behind for life, 112 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 3: like there's some imaginary deadline for getting your financial act together. 113 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: I can tell you, my friend, that is not true 114 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: at all. Let's flip that script. Your twenties are a 115 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: time for exploration and growth, and it's completely normal if 116 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 3: saving wasn't at the top of your list. 117 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: You know what. 118 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: The good news is, though you are not doomed, You're 119 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: not even close to it. The truth is it is 120 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: never too late to start working towards the financial future 121 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 3: that you want, and that you deserve. The key is 122 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: to focus on where you are now and how you're 123 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 3: going to be able to move forward from there. Maybe 124 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: you didn't have a solid savings plan in your twenties, 125 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean you can't start one right now today. 126 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: Every single step you take from this point on is progress. 127 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: It is a small step in the right direction, and 128 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: my friend, we need to focus on the fact that 129 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: it is still the right direction and with the right strategies, 130 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: you can make significant strides towards your goals. 131 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: So let's not get caught up in the should have 132 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: could of like I did. 133 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: I literally spent so much time in my late twenties 134 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: getting out of debt. But when I was doing that, 135 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: I was lying to the people around me. I didn't 136 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: want to admit that I was in debt. I felt 137 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: like I had absolutely screwed my life up, that there 138 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: was absolutely no going back and I was never going 139 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: to be able to financially recover from that. I took 140 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: back control. Not only did I take back control, but 141 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: I created this entire community so that we can all 142 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: feel like we're in control. So how do you personally 143 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: want to take that control? Let's dive into what you 144 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: can do right now to start building the financial life 145 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: that you do. 146 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 4: Don't scoff it that you do deserve it. 147 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: It all begins with really simple, actionable steps that are 148 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: tailored to your current stage in life, and you can 149 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: do it yourself. We're not talking about massive overhauls or 150 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: drastic lifestyle changes, just small adjustments that make a really 151 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: big impact over time. Maybe it's as easy as setting 152 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: up an automatic transfer that sends a really small amount 153 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: of money from every paycheck that you get straight into 154 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: your savings account. Think of it as paying yourself first, 155 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: even if it's just like twenty bucks a week or 156 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: even a month, or maybe for you, it's about bumping 157 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: up your SUPER contributions by an extra five percent. 158 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 4: My friend, that's few to you. She's thanking you already. 159 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 3: The key is to start with steps that feel doable 160 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: and that actually align with where you're at, so that 161 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: you're not overwhelmed by the. 162 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 4: Pressure to do it all at once. 163 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: And if you're thinking about this and you're going v 164 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: I don't even have twenty dollars a week or month, 165 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: and I could not do five percent extra on my Super, 166 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: No worries. 167 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 4: That doesn't matter. 168 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 3: You're here, you're listening to this podcast. This is the 169 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: smallest step in the right direction to getting your life 170 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: on track, and just knowing more and just being educated 171 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 3: is putting future you first. Maybe you're someone who racked 172 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: up a lot of super accounts in your twenties, so 173 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: consolidating your account to save on fees would be a 174 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: really great step. 175 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 4: Or maybe you. 176 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: Could start tackling one high interest debt at a time. 177 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: And hey, it's okay if your steps don't look like 178 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: everyone else's. Your financial journey is yours alone, So focus 179 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: on what feels right for you, what feels manageable, what 180 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: is doable. The most important part, though, it's to start 181 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 3: even the smallest steps, like skipping a takeaway coffee once 182 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: a week and putting that cash into your savings. It 183 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: can add up over time. It's about creating habits that 184 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: build momentum, so every step feels less like an effort 185 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: and more like a routine. And remember, my friend, this 186 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. 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