1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: On today's show, Mikayla Tester forced to apologize after visiting 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: a dog meat market. Chloe Zepp tries to sell well 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Web on Instagram, Kayla Itsinas's first brand collaboration, Sophie Keisha's 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: Friends Speak to the Media, and Georgia Richard's Raw Conversation 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: that's set to help others. Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert and just putting 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: it out there. Am I reminding either of you of 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Hailey Bieber Because I do have my new glasses that 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: are part of the Haley Bieber collection. I can't even 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: imagine Hailey Bible. They're very nice. It's hilarious. So Sophie 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: and I spoke the other week how we went in 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: to get new glasses and the optometrist was telling me 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: that they've got these new Haley Beaber glasses that nobody 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: likes and they've barely sold any of them, so they're 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: the ones. It's so seat, Sophie, is the market for 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: that type of summerceice. They got some sucker's bored a 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: pair of well disappoint their gold frame. We were joking 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: very nice. We were joking in this store that someone 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: must have just like photoshoped the glasses on Hailey Biber, 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: like she's probably never even worn. It's so cute because 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: they gave me a little case and it's got Hailey 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: Biber written all over. I look so tragic. What are 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: you twelve? They were worth? They were worth her four 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: hundred dollars at savey paid. Well. I'm Kate Torbertt and 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm hosting a Halloween dinner party tonight and I have 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: been cooking a lot, so I'm trying to actually be prepared. 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. I'm cooking. I was like, 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: what is Halloween theme food? And all I could think 30 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: of was pumpkin. So I'm cooking a big pumpkin lasagna 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: and I'm going to do pumpkin pie. I've got a request, Kate. 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: You made these what is it? Cobb did mini coblock 33 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: She made these mini ones. It's perfect because you know 34 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: when you just want to have the crunch of the 35 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: bread when you should do a reel on it cake 36 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: because it's so so yummy. You want me to make 37 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: mini cob loafs from scratch because I made that bread 38 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: from scratch. Kate, would you like me to bring the 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: jellies that I made last time that had the lighty 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: eye with the blueberry? Yeah? Now when are you dropping 41 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: all the decorations off to me? Cutting it a bit? Fine? 42 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: Oh okay, maybe you can collect them after the show. Okay, 43 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: good Well, I'm Amy Torbert and on the theme of Halloween. 44 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: Dale's told me that I can't wear my Halloween costume 45 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: from last year to your dinner. Well, I think you 46 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: need a new costume. I am recycling costume that I 47 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: watered Disney Birthday party because I haven't had a lot 48 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: of time and I'm going as money heist though, so 49 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: you can come as a time. I don't know. I've 50 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: got an idea. I will save it for tonight. Okay, 51 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: this is what costume you've got close to you? No, no, no, 52 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: I've got I've got something sorted. But it's a surprise. Okay, 53 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm very intrigued. 54 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: Good morning from Italy. Maddie's lift is so tiny and 55 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: so scary and I'm so claustrophobic. 56 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: But I haven't died yet. Sophie Keisha's close friends have 57 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: spoken to the Herald Sun following the influencer's high profile 58 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: split with basketball that Maddie Garrick. So what has gone down? 59 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: Things starting to get messy? Yeah, Well, despite the fact 60 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: that Sophie said she would not be commenting any further 61 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: and begging the public to let her be, the Herald 62 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: Son has interviewed what they call Sophie's close friends about 63 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: the relationship breakdown. It's not clear whether Sophie has asked 64 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: her friends to speak on her behalf or whether they 65 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: approach the media on their own accord. I suppose everyone 66 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: can make up their minds about that way. Well, I'm 67 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: thinking that's a bad friend if they've approached the media 68 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: without her approval. Personally, I highly doubt that they haven't 69 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: gotten her approval. If anything, I think Sophie is a 70 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: bit of a mastermind in terms of media. She's got 71 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: her own media company called Sure Media. She would have 72 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: contacts at the Herald Son. She's been in the Harold 73 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: Son a lot. I think this was quite orchestrated personally, 74 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: that's just my opinion. Well, the friends' names were not given, 75 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: they were just referred to as sources. And Sophie's close 76 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: so that's pretty common with yeah, gossip, maga things. So 77 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: the articles said that Sophie's close friends have pointed the 78 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: finger at Maddie for the Pears Shock split. So the 79 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: article continued saying, Sophie's inner circle say the sleep where 80 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: entrepreneur provided everything for Maddie in life so she could 81 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: chase her sporting dreams. And in Sophie's breakup announcement posts, 82 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: she did allude to a break of trust in the relationship, 83 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: and her friends suggested in this article that a third 84 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: party may have been involved. How can they print this? 85 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: Do you know what's happened? This isn't this isn't her 86 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: best friend, this is Sophie. She has gone and they 87 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: would have said, okay, you tell us what happened, and 88 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: we're just going to put Sophie's close friends. I mean, 89 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: there's obviously the truth defense and defamation cases, and I 90 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: don't think Maddie is going to sue the newspaper. But 91 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: I just think this is really unfair. But just playing 92 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: devil's advocate here, just say that in terms of Olivia 93 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: and Justin's divorce, just say that Justin has played away 94 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: and he's cheated. Would we think it was unfair for 95 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: Olivia to be planting stories in the Herald, I think 96 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: we would judge her for doing so. I don't think so. 97 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: I think sometimes if if something like this happened to 98 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: you and a lot of people are talking about it online, 99 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: you want your story out there. So that's what Sophie's doing. 100 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: If she has been cheated on by Maddie, Maddie is 101 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: in the wrong in this instance. So I don't actually 102 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: think ill of Sophie for feeding this story to the media. 103 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: If it's true, I can't blame her. I probably would. 104 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: I get where you're coming from if it is true, 105 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: but it's we don't know what is true. Well, Maddie, 106 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: she still hasn't said anything. Well, I actually think Mattie's 107 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: coming across as quite classy and all of this. She's 108 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: focus on playing basketball in Italy. She's not coming out 109 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: tip for tap making comments. And I think that the 110 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: thing is it's all so fresh and I feel like, 111 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they were engaged, that's obviously a very serious relationship. Also, 112 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: I think she needs to let the dust settle and 113 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 1: not come out and be causing these sort of issues. 114 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: They need to talk about this. I also think, though, 115 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: if you're the person that's in the wrong and potentially cheated. 116 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: What can you say to really make yourself sound better? 117 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: Her being silent probably is the best defense. Now, some 118 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: followers were speculating that Sophie is following in the footsteps 119 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: of Olivia Rodgers and is revenge dressing. So she did 120 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: take a couple of photos of herself in a Henny jumper, 121 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: and it was quite revealing and it did seem to 122 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: capture a lot of attention online. She said put up 123 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: a post saying that she'd received so many messages about 124 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: the jumper, everyone asking where it was from. I don't 125 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: think there's anything wrong with trying to look good on 126 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: Instagram when you are going through a breakup, particularly if 127 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: there was cheating involved. Look, we need to point out 128 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: that we do not know if there was cheating involved. 129 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: This is I said. If Yeah, I know. I just 130 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: think it's important to point out because I just I 131 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: just don't think the power balance is there. Yes, Maddie 132 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: is a professional athlete and she has got her own following, 133 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: but Sophie's following is so much larger, and she's obviously 134 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: got a lot of contacts in the media. It is 135 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: interesting that the herald Son ran with this article. They 136 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: must have a bit of proof, I would say, in 137 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: order to avoid a defamation claim, let's wait a few 138 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: more weeks. You never know, it might the text messages 139 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: might come out in the Daily Bail or something. I 140 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: think that Sophie would be saving it for her podcast 141 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: or something where she can potentially benefit from the news 142 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: coming out there, Oh definitely, or a book. It is 143 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: that she is very hurt. She put out a quote 144 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: that said, it is quite simple, nothing that is meant 145 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: for you will ever get away. Love deeply and without 146 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: the need to possess or own. Let beautiful connections pass 147 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: through you, without attachment. Slam your heart into the people 148 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: and the places and the things that ignite something deeper 149 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: inside of your soul. And I promise, I promise, the 150 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: right things will stay. You will never lose what is 151 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: for you. Please don't ever forget that. Now. At the 152 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: time of recording, as we did mention, Maddie is yet 153 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: to comment on the split. She has just been posting 154 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: as normal. She hasn't removed any of the photos of 155 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: the couple together. It's literally like nothing has happened on 156 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: her Instagram. 157 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: We've never launched or released anything that we've been like, damn, 158 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: we shouldn't have done that, because we're actually listening to 159 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: our community and what they want. So the way that 160 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: we keep them engaged, the way that we keep them 161 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: there is keep providing them with everything that they want. 162 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: Fitness mogul Kayla had Seen Us has launched her first 163 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: ever clothing collab with iconic Australian brand Peggy Nation. So 164 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: if I was really surprised when I saw this pop 165 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: up on my newsfeed, yeah, well, I think a lot 166 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: of listeners may be asking why are we talking about this, 167 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: because it's not really new for influences to collab with brands. 168 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: They do that all the time. However, Kayla is a 169 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: little bit different because she is very specific about who 170 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: she chooses to align herself with and until now, she 171 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: is not collaborated in this way with another brand. So 172 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen, Kayla appeared on the Healthy Hustlers 173 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: podcast and she spoke about her reluctance to collaborate or 174 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: team up with another brand, and she explained that when 175 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: she and her ex partner Toby started the Bikini Bodyguide 176 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: which is now Sweat, that they sat down and they 177 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: said if the business is going to get big, they 178 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: want to have some key boundaries. Here's what she said. 179 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: I sat down with Toby and I'm like, if this 180 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: is going to get big, like, I want a few things. 181 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: He's like, all right, name what you want. I was like, okay, 182 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to sexualize myself to sell anything ever, ever, ever, ever. 183 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to sit there and promote things online. 184 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: And I want to work for our own our own business, 185 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: our own money, our own side. 186 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: Want to work. 187 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: But I don't want to get paid to promote other things. 188 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 2: I want a community. I want someone to feel like 189 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: I wanted to feel like a family like. I don't 190 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: want to get a go be away from my family. 191 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: And I also don't want to be away for my 192 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: family for too long. I was I set like five 193 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: or six things and we started to them the entire time. 194 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 2: So you go on my profile. I don't sell things, 195 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: I don't sexualize myself. I'm with my family. I stick 196 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: to what I've said four or five years ago. I 197 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: haven't changed who I am. So yeah, that's just like, 198 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: that's my best piece of advice I would do for businesses. 199 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: I find that quote so fascinating from Kaylorstinas because I 200 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: remember when the sweat app came out, I was like, 201 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: who the hell is going to pay for a subscription 202 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: on an app? Like I remember being like, I'm not 203 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: paying four dollars for an app. And I just think 204 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: that she has really set the bar in Australia in 205 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,239 Speaker 1: terms of a lot of influencers moving to this subscription 206 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: based product in order to actually gain a lot of money. 207 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: Look at Kick, look at the sam Wood fitness app. 208 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: All these people have copied the subscription model and are 209 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: just making so much money and then they don't have 210 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: to do sponsorships. And from a business perspective as well, 211 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: not that I think Kayla was intentionally looking for this, 212 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: but brands are going to offer her more because she's 213 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: not advertising everything, so well, this is a big win 214 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: for pe Nation. That's the thing. The host of the podcast, Madeleine, 215 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: who previously worked in marketing, recalled during that podcast interview 216 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: when she first met Kayla, and Kayla was very adamant 217 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: that she would never want to put her name to 218 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: another brand. Here's what she said. 219 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: I still wear Nike, I still wear addadasks like I 220 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: still wear Lululemon or Ala yoga, whatever it is. I 221 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: love those brands and the people see me in them 222 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: all the time. I just that I don't put my 223 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: name on them. 224 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: What was quite clear that Kayla has always had a 225 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: very savvy business brain, clearly supported by her ex partner 226 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: Toby Pierce as well. What has made the change? Why 227 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: is she now teaming up with pe Nation? I think 228 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: it is a good move for her now because she 229 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: has waited eight years to do a collaboration with someone, 230 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: and it's clear that this is a brand that she 231 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: genuinely loves. It's not all to do with money, because 232 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, she doesn't need it exactly, she doesn't need it. 233 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: So she has teamed up with the Australian brand pe 234 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: Nation and she has designed a capsule collection and there 235 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: has been a lot of press about this collection launch. 236 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: So Kayla even appeared on the Morning Show talking about it, 237 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: and there have been countless news articles. Body and Soul 238 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: even called the collab the stuff of activewear fantasies and 239 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: said that when two fitness juggernauts combined forces, good things happen. 240 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: As an avid activewear wearer, I was actually so excited 241 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: by this collaboration. I love everything Kayla wears. I found 242 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: myself the other day googling what kind of track pants 243 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: as Kayla are seeing as well? Well, she actually wears 244 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: shorts amy she loves to work out in shorts. I 245 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: know she wears shorts, but she obviously wears trashies too, 246 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: And there was this whole thread online about which one 247 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: she wears and how she revealed in her comments. The 248 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: thing is, this isn't a obviously unique thing for an 249 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: active war company to do. We saw Jagged I think 250 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: really around twenty eighteen getting great success when they partnered 251 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: up with the likes of obviously Bet Judge. She owns 252 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: the business, but Laura Henshaw. I remember when Laura Henshaw 253 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: launched her capsule and with Jagged, I mean I was 254 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: on the site like Bie and pl Cogan did one 255 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: toes she did well. It's interesting because Pip Edwards, who 256 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: is the co founder of Pee Nation, she has been 257 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: a longtime friend of Kayla, and Pip said that the 258 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: co lab was very organic. She said that Kayla has 259 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: been genuinely wearing the brand for years, and Kayla really 260 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: echoed those thoughts. She said that she has been wearing 261 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: the brand for over ten years and has really lived 262 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: in it, and she was particularly excited to bring back 263 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: one of its iconic bomber jackets. So she said that 264 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: when she was traveling in New York in twenty eighteen, 265 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: she would wear the jacket all the time. And she 266 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: said that she had never received so many compliments on 267 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: a piece of clothing before. So when she and Pip 268 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: started talking about this colab, she said that they had 269 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: to bring back that jacket. So they are bringing it 270 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: back with a few tweaks, and it's going to be 271 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: in different colors. That's got the coolest hoodie. So I 272 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: am just such a lover of hoodies. It's got the 273 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: Pee Nation all this stuff on the back. No, I'm 274 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: just wanting this. Cales clearly very influenced by this. It's 275 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: like me with Jagged Now I've turned to Lulu Lemon. Though, 276 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: I would love to know how much money Kayla did 277 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: make from this brand deal and what really got her 278 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: over the line. I wonder if it was the cool 279 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: factor of having your own peation line. I honestly don't 280 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: think it was a money thing. I mean, we've all 281 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: joked that Kayla is worth an absolute bomb. Obviously that 282 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: fortune was halved between Toby Pearce. However, it's still a 283 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: lot of fucking money. Like I just think it's she 284 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: loves the brand and it's fun for her to be involved. 285 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. It's huge for pe and Asian 286 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: to have Kayla. It's seen as give her tick of 287 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: approval and also design her own collection. I think that's 288 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: going to fly off the show because I feel like 289 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: pe Nation, I remember it was really big a couple 290 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: of years ago, but again, like Jagged, I feel like 291 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: it's sort of dropped off and there's so many active 292 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: where brands out there, like you see Stacks and the 293 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: success they've had just by partnering with Influence. Well, they 294 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: do say that pe Nation is quite big internationally, but 295 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: I think the fact that Kayla does have an American audience, 296 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: she has an audience all around the world, I think 297 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: it will really help cement it over there. It's also 298 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: good for Kayla because she's getting a lot of publicity 299 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: as well, and in turn that is great for the 300 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: sweat app but also her own social media. 301 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: They basically sell every single animal you can think of 302 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: at this market. 303 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: They have monkey, crocodile, rabbit, frog, and we're going to 304 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: try everything. 305 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: Mikayla Tester has been slammed for visiting an Indonesian market 306 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: that sells dog meat. The Only Fans creator shared a 307 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: video to TikTok of her taste testing the meats, which 308 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: was later removed. Kay can you tell us about this video? 309 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: So the video started off with Mikayla in a taxi 310 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: and she explained that her taxi driver had taken her 311 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: to a top secret market where they sell every single 312 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: animal meat you can think of, including crocodile, rabbit, frog. 313 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: She then said that they were going to try everything. 314 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: The next shot, she was inside the market and there 315 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: were these big pots of cooked meat and she said 316 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: that that's dog meat and that she felt really traumatized 317 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: by the experience. She also explained when she got back 318 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: in the cab that the people had been a little 319 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: bit skeptical of her because they thought she might be 320 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: from an organization that was trying to shut them down. 321 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: They then got back to the villa and Mikayla and 322 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: her manager decided to taste test the meats on camera. 323 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: So the first meat was wrap meat on a skewer 324 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: and they were gagging over it. They then tried crocodile 325 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: and then they got out this bag of monkey meat, 326 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: and Mikayla explained that they tried to give it to 327 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: her for free but she didn't want it, but they 328 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: still had put it in the bag and they were 329 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: just really grossed out and in the end they said, look, 330 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: we can't actually eat any of this stuff. This video 331 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: has been a total flop. I was really surprised that 332 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: she thought this was a good idea to put out there, 333 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: because about a year ago, Taralia Scan shared a video 334 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: where she was trying specific Chinese cuisine and she did 335 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: cop a lot of backlash because people felt like there 336 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: was a racial element there where they were mocking the 337 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: food and saying how disgusting it was. Well, there's so 338 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: many elements to this, because it's almost mocking it because 339 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: there are some people that can only afford to eat it. 340 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: But then it's also trying to say, oh, well, look 341 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: at Asians, they just eat all this weird shit and 342 00:15:59,280 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to try. 343 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 3: Well. 344 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: I think I just don't think she thought the video 345 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: through at all, because this is sort of the premise 346 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: of the video is a typical TikTok video where you 347 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: go in, you taste test a few things, and people 348 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: are meant to be entertained, but this just took it 349 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: too far. Well, that's what struck me was it was 350 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: like she was trying to replicate Anna Poll's video, which 351 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: is of course her ex sister in law, and Anna 352 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: Paul does this so well because she travels to so 353 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: many different countries, but she's really respectful about the way 354 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: she talks about the food, and she's very excited to 355 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: try new things. So I think that this is what 356 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: Mikayla had in mind. She thought maybe it's going to 357 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: get a lot of views. It has a bit of 358 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: shock factor. I don't think she necessarily intended on being 359 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: nasty or rude about the culture, but it just didn't 360 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: come across very well. It just shows how out of 361 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: touch that she is that she wouldn't think that this 362 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: would come across as offensive. She has issued to apologies, 363 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: and in one of the apologies she did cite that 364 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: her job is to daily vlog and she likes to 365 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: share about different cultures. But I don't think that excuse 366 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: is really good enough in this situation, especially after all 367 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: the discussions that have been had over the past two 368 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: years on these kind of wet markets. Oh exactly. I 369 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: mean that's the first thing I thought of. Like the 370 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: manager was all like, yeah, I'll give it a go, 371 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: and it's like you could get really ill. So for 372 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: those who don't know, I mean, obviously eating dog meat 373 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: is very controversial and in Western cultures, very frowned upon, 374 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: but it's actually very bad for you as well. So 375 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: if you eat dog meat, you put yourself at risk 376 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: of contracting things like E. COLEAI, salmonella, and also a 377 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: lot of bacterial diseases. So I was surprised to see 378 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: Mikayla and her manager even contemplating eaching some of these 379 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: meats that were on offer. Do you know what's the 380 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: worst thing is that her manager was actually involved in 381 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: the video. You think usually your manager would guide you 382 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: to make the right decisions about what content you're putting 383 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: out there, but the fact that he was happy to 384 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: put his face out there. She also had to say, oh, 385 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: just by the way, this isn't some sort of romantic interest, 386 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: this is actually my manager, because he was a very 387 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: similar age to her. Yeah. Well, obviously this video has 388 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: caused a lot of backlash, so one use wrote you 389 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: knew what the place was and went there, saying it 390 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: traumatized you disrespected the food as well. The country isn't 391 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: as developed as others. Be respectful. Another person wrote, okay, 392 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: I changed my mind because why even upload a video, 393 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: especially after she found out about dog meat and that 394 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: it was an illegal meat trade. Someone else wrote, going 395 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: there just to film a video to profit off and 396 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: buy the illegal meat just to toss it out is 397 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: worse than someone going there to eat. The other thing 398 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: that is concerning is it's almost promoting people to go 399 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: and check out these secret markets to do different tiktoks. Yeah, 400 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: as if it's a tourism destination, so putting money back 401 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: into that market as well well, Kate. As you mentioned, 402 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: Mikayla has apologized twice. She said her role as a 403 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: daily blogger was to learn about other cultures. She said, well, 404 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: she knew the market had monkey meat. She insisted she 405 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: didn't know it had dog meat and if she did, 406 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: she wouldn't have gone there. So let's throw to a 407 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: bit of what she said. I'm a daily blogger. I 408 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: traveled the world. I like to see other cultures and 409 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: like to be part of other cultures. We like to 410 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: learn about things, and I understand. 411 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: That my audience may be very sensitive and not be 412 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: used to seeing things like this. 413 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: Now understand that me traveling, I can become very insensitive 414 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: to that. 415 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: It seems like a bit of a cop out to 416 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: say that the audience was too sensitive, because it's like, oh, 417 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm such a jet setter that I have seen so 418 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: many things and so many opened me up to so 419 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: many cultural things that I didn't realize that that would 420 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: be offensive to you people that don't travel, And it's like, 421 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: hang on, you're lucky enough to be traveling around the 422 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: world at such a young age. Surely you would have 423 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: known that that is offensive. But she said she was 424 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 1: traumatized by it as well, so when she realized, actually, 425 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: this is probably going to affect people we watch it. 426 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: It was clearly uploaded for shock value. Yeah, I don't 427 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: understand why she didn't upload it as an expose. I 428 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: can understand if someone went there and said, I'm wanting 429 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: to shed a light on this illegal trade. This is 430 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: a video, but it was just look at this and 431 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to poke fun at it. Well if at 432 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: the same time, I can actually see how if you 433 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: are surrounded by this all the time, you could become 434 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: desensitized to it, and it would be difficult. It's got 435 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: around that all the time. It's a top secret market 436 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: that the taxi driver had to take her to. You're 437 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: not seeing people on the streets selling this kind of 438 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: meat that it's illegal. And what I'm saying is that 439 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: we forget that people like her, their whole life is 440 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: traveling and seeing the ways it's different people hotels. Mikayla 441 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: Tester is not, you know, going to these meat markets 442 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: all the time. She's off in you know, Europe, on 443 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: yachts and both, like, she's not bloody going to these 444 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: things all the time. It's a bit of a cop 445 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: out to say that. And I think because it was 446 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: a top secret market, like you know that there's things 447 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: going on that are going to be controversial, why would 448 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: you even bother touching it. 449 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: I've tried to be as open as I can, growing 450 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: and learning about myself lately, but it's just something that 451 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 3: I can't fully comprehend yet. 452 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: Jeorjia Richards has opened up about the internal battle she's 453 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: dealing with as she navigates her true identity. The twenty 454 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: three year old lifestyle influence that revealed she's been struggling 455 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: with her sexuality and faith cake can you tell us 456 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: more So? During a weekly vlog, Georgia had a very 457 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: raw conversation on camera about how she's struggling as she 458 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: tackles some emotional demons, and she was saying that she'd 459 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: been really disappointed with the vlogs that she'd been putting out, 460 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: and she said it's been really tough for her because 461 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: she's been avoiding and ignoring these thoughts and emotions in 462 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: her head for quite a while now, but had a 463 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: bit of a meltdown the week before which forced her 464 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: to confront these things head on. And she said that 465 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: she feels like vlogging about her breakfast or going to 466 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: the gym just seems so pointless and stupid because she 467 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: doesn't feel ready or comfortable yet to actually talk about 468 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: the things going on inside her head. So I think 469 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: she feels like a bit of a fraud putting out 470 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: this happy persona. It's so refreshing to hear an influence 471 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: actually talk about something that they're struggling with. I see 472 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: where she's coming from, because a lot of the vlogs 473 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: that influencers put out there, they're just putting out their 474 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: highlight reel, but to know that there's actually more going 475 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: on behind the scenes is really good. And I love 476 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: that she's sharing this content because I think there are 477 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 1: so many people out there that could relate to this 478 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: internal battle she's having. Yeah, I agree, so if I 479 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: think this content would be really helpful for a lot 480 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: of people out there who are struggling with their identity. 481 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: Because she spoke a lot about how she's always been 482 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: a people pleaser and she doesn't really know what her 483 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: opinions are on topics because she's always been led by 484 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: what her parents or her friends think. And she said 485 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: the more she's been questioning herself, the more she realizes 486 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: that she has no idea who she actually is. Let's 487 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: throw to some of what she said. 488 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 3: I'd obviously love to talk about it more when I'm 489 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 3: like more certain and I understand myself more and i 490 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: know what's going on in my old little head. But 491 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: I've been really struggling with my sexuality and this is 492 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: just such a big conversation that I don't think I 493 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: really have. But being raised in the Church and having 494 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 3: majority of the people in my life around me being Christians, 495 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: everyone kind of has their own beliefs, and I've just 496 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: kind of had to sit back and decide for myself 497 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: and myself only what I agree with and what I 498 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: disagree with. And that has been really really different cult 499 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: and really challenging, very confronting, and I'm still not really 500 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 3: there yet. But a lot of how I was raised 501 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: doesn't align with the thoughts and the feelings that I'm 502 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: having now, and it's just all a big mind puzzle 503 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: that I can't seem to solve. 504 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: I found it really powerful to hear Georgia talk about 505 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: her upbringing and how it has clashed with the way 506 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: she feels inside. It made me feel really sorry for her. 507 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: I just wanted to give her a big hug because 508 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: she's going through so much, but she's being pretty generous 509 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: with her feelings and actually, you know, putting this content 510 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: out there for other women in their twenties that might 511 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: be going through the same thing, because life when your 512 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: twenties is really difficult. I mean, I know that sounds 513 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: silly because everyone's like, oh, well, in the thirties, you 514 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: have to do this in this and everyone compares what 515 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: stages they're at, But a lot of people have identity 516 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: crisis is in their twenties, because you're kind of an adult, 517 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: but you're not your first like moving out of home, 518 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: learning how to deal without your parents, and then realizing, hey, 519 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: I can actually have my own thoughts and feelings exactly. 520 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: And it would be hard enough to open up and say, actually, 521 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm questioning my sexuality. But in the back of her head, 522 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: she's also been brought up as a Christian, thinking that 523 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: this is the wrong thing to be, I know, And 524 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: you can see that real internal struggle going on because 525 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: she obviously wants to be really open with her audience, 526 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: but then she's got her real life family and friends 527 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: who are all Christian that would be judging this content 528 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: that she's putting out there, and it would really conflict 529 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: with what they think and believe in. I think it 530 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: would also be tough for her because I feel like 531 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: as an influencer, she has copped a lot of questions, 532 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: Oh have you ever had a boyfriend before? And oh 533 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: are you single? Are you looking for someone? And she 534 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: probably feels like part of her is lying to her 535 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: audience by not being authentic, but then she doesn't seem 536 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: to actually know herself how she feels. So Georgia actually 537 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 1: made a bit of a life announcement. In the video, 538 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: she said she's been approved for a new rental on 539 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: the Gold cost So she lives in Brisbane and she's 540 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: decided to make the move an hour up to the 541 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: Gold Coast because she wants to get away from everything 542 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: she has known her whole life. And she said it's 543 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: a chance for her to discover herself and explore things 544 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: away from what she knows. So I think that's going 545 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: to be a really pivotal part in her life and 546 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: hopefully it goes really well for her. Okay, just back 547 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: to your point about Georgia opening up and how she 548 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: probably can't open up as much as she wants to 549 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: because she does have family members watching. Wouldn't it be 550 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: so good if there was a feature on social media 551 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: or say for this podcast, where you could block family 552 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: members or friends, because there have been so many stories 553 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: in our life that I would love to tell on 554 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: the podcast. But you're like, fuck, I don't want that 555 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: person listening. And then when the people who you never 556 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: think would listen go oh yeah, I heard you, and 557 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: you're like oh shit, Because I mean, for her, what 558 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: great content would that be? Her actually exploring her thoughts 559 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: would be entertaining it be helpful for people. She she 560 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: said she will once she's come to terms with what 561 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: she's actually thinking and processed it. It's funny you say that, though, 562 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: because Georgia kept talking about her TikTok and how she 563 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: feels like it's a really safe place, which surprised me 564 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: because I thought TikTok had like so many trolls on there, 565 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: But you got when I went over to her TikTok, 566 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: I did get a different side of her, and people 567 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 1: are like, oh my god, you're so different to what 568 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: you're like on your vlogs. And then she wrote, yeah, 569 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: because my parents watched my foots. Yeah, exactly. That's the thing. 570 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: All the oldies haven't moved to TikTok yet. That's why 571 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: everyone is not on Facebook anymore. Looks like I'm going 572 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: to have to follow Georgia Richard's on TikTok. I think, yeah, 573 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Hi everyone, and welcome back to my channel. 574 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: I am currently in gog. Host Chloe's EP and her 575 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: business partner Molly Jane have announced they're selling their online 576 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: platform well web Amy. This has come as a bit 577 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: of a surprise. It has because they only launched well 578 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: Web back in March of twenty twenty one. Really, I 579 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: swear that was longer ago. It was in the midst 580 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: of COVID. Yeah, and it was after they announced they'd 581 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: sold their share of their previous wellness app, Bloom. So 582 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: just to jog everybody's memory, in August twenty nineteen, Chloe 583 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: and Molly launched the Bloom app and it was too 584 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: great fanfare. They did a huge publicity round and they 585 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: were chouted as being, you know, the biggest entrepreneurs coming 586 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: out of the coming out of Melbourne. They were numerous 587 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: podcasts and they were also featured in a number of 588 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: publications such as The Herald Sun. It blows my mind 589 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: that that was August twenty nineteen, pre COVID, because you 590 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: think of the absolute amazing timing of them launching a 591 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: meditation app for people that are going to be in lockdown. 592 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: But even then, within two days of the launch of 593 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: the Bloom map, it was the number one app on 594 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: the app store. That's incredible. I think we seem to 595 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: forget how powerful chloe zep was back in twenty nineteen, 596 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: before all the COVID vaccine and backlash exactly. So the 597 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: app was actually created by a company called Atlantis. So 598 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: then in March twenty twenty one, Chloe and Molly surprised 599 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: their followers by announcing they were no longer working with 600 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: the Bloom ap. So they said Atlantis had acquired their 601 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: interests in the app, and then this paved the way 602 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: for them to launch well Web. I think everyone was 603 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: very underwhelmed when they launched well Web because the bloom 604 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: app was of obviously so good, and then Wellweb, but 605 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: it was like, you've taken a step back, because no 606 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: one goes from normally people go from a website to 607 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: an app, not an app, back to all that something. 608 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: Even the name in itself was bad. Loom was the 609 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: perfect name. It was fresh, it was new. It kind 610 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: of related to what they were taking about that where 611 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: branding wasn't very nice. No, and at the time it 612 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: seemed like a really odd move, Kate, as you said, 613 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: but I remember we actually discussed it on our podcast 614 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 1: back in March twenty twenty one, and the consensus was 615 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: that they had made the move so they could take 616 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the profits because they had shared 617 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: the profits with Atlantis. The thing is, obviously we now 618 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: know that this product was not successful, So you do 619 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: wonder if they'd be kicking themselves because I mean, I'd 620 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: rather have fifty percent of a lot of money than 621 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: and also not very not much. That being said, though 622 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: the blue map I had a look and they haven't 623 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: posted since April. Oh wow. So as in on their Instagram. 624 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: It shows how important the combination of the star power 625 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: of the influence to slash the brains of the app 626 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: maker is. The two need to work together in order 627 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: to make it popular. Exactly so, Chloe made the announcement 628 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: on her Instagram that she and Molly were selling well Web. 629 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: So she posted exciting opportunity for a business wiz that 630 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 1: wants to get into the tech and wellness space. We 631 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: are selling well Web, our wellness video streaming platform. Please 632 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: dm me if you were interested in brackets Serious business 633 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: offers open. Who thinks they're getting serious business offers by 634 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: promoting the selling of a company on Instagram like this 635 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: is wild? It's not even maybe if it was linked in. 636 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: But normally someone privately acquires this type of business because 637 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: it is so successful that they say, hey, look I 638 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: really want to purchase this business from you. Here's ten 639 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: million dollars. Yeah, it does seem like they are in 640 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: a desperate position if they are advertising to sell it 641 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: on their Instagram story. I know there's been a lot 642 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: of talk if Chloe and Molly are even friends anymore. 643 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm not sure what the 644 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: status of their friendship is, but I wonder if that 645 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: has come into play. They are still following each other 646 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: on Instagram, and we know that's a telltale sign. Well 647 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: we touched on earlier Chloe Zep's personal brand has obviously 648 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: taken a hit since the pandemic, and it seems like 649 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: this hit may have had a negative effect on WELLWB 650 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: because the page lost a lot of followers. So when 651 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: they first launched, they had one hundred and ten thousand. 652 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: Now this was because Chloe very cleverly changed over her 653 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: Chloe Active Fitness account to WELLWB. So since it's launched 654 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: and Chloe switching over the page, the page has gone 655 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: from one hundred and ten thousand followers to ninety two 656 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: point two thousand followers and they haven't posted in twelve weeks, 657 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: so the account is pretty inactive. You think if you 658 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: were trying to sell this business, the Instagram account would 659 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: be very appealing to potential buyers. You think you'd be 660 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: wanting to get that engagement up, not posting for twelve weeks. 661 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: I wonder if it's a case if they just can't 662 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: be bothered to deal with it anymore. Well, we've got 663 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: to remember that Chloe does have an active war company 664 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: called ZEP which is very successful. She's got an office 665 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: and staff. She's also got two kids, so it could 666 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: be a case of not having enough time to do everything. 667 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: I have noticed as well that Molly Jane has been 668 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: launching a few little business opportunities. So she has released 669 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: an energy management ebook. What is that? Good question, Kate 670 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: was how to manage your energy exactly? And she's also 671 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: for a while been selling these oracle sessions. So if 672 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: you're interested in one cost four hundred and fourteen dollars 673 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: an hour, Well, so she just predicts stuff that's gonna 674 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: happen to you. Well, what it says online is that 675 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: Molly Jane works with your spirit team and guides to clear, cleanse, upgrade, 676 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: plus provide clarity and tools specifically for your system so 677 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: you can operate at your most aligned self. This just 678 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: reminds me of those calls that they would advertise on 679 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: late night TV shows in the nineties where every second 680 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: it was costing you five dollars. Yeah, what else? He says? 681 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: Molly can see the truest essence of who you are. 682 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: She will gently hold a mirror to help you remember 683 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: and see too. Molly provides you with keys, and it's 684 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: up to you as to what you do with these keys. 685 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: What the hell does that mean? I don't know. But 686 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: how can you pick up that much of what's going 687 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: on in someone's life by just having a phone call 688 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: with them exactly? Well, she's currently booked out till December, though, 689 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: so the calls are obviously going bilarious. Who are these people? 690 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: If any of our listeners are doing this, can you 691 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: let us know why deeply? And does it actually help? 692 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 3: Well? 693 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: I think that's all we've got time for. I might 694 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: need to go make a phone call for very expensive one. 695 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: So today's podcast was recorded on the traditional land of 696 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect 697 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: to elders past and present. If you have enjoyed today's show, 698 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: could you please make sure you are subscribed on Apple 699 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: Podcasts and also Spotify and leave us a five star review.