1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: This is gam Nation. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: There's trouble in Mossman. That's not because the lions have 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 2: got out of the zoo again. 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Someone missed midweek tennis for Thursday instead. 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: Of Wednesday, and mobs No. Moss Municipal Council, which is 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: the local government era on the Lower not north of Sydney, 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: has decided they're going to act the Nativity scene from 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: the council chambers. 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: So they every year they had a giant Actually I 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: don't I don't know what size it was. I saw 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: a new. 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: Abortioned nativity, not. 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Real life proportions. 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's too that's too big. That's too 15 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: big you have? 16 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: But are they chess piece sizes? Like how big would 17 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: they have been? 18 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: Chess? If you're playing chess in the park. 19 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: Like those old men who play the big chess pieces, 20 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: they would be No, that's big they would have been 21 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I reckon the size of say my drink bottle here, 22 00:00:55,200 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: that's that's how tall men in your home? That in 23 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: your But this is bigger than a home. 24 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: Onse. So my friend Maltese, they've got a Nativity scene, 25 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: but they've got water bottle size three, wise Man, Jesus, 26 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: Ox and ass and all that sort of stuff. But 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: then the little baby Jesus, someone stole it. She's gone 28 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: and board another one. But it's too big. 29 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: She's mixed up the set. 30 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: It's like too And I said, the little baby Jesus, 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: Mary would have died. 32 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: Was it was a miracle? 33 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: Well it was true, true, Yeah, he could. 34 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Have given birth to on the size of a piglet. 35 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: I just think proportionally, you've got you've got to stick 36 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: with the same set. 37 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: And also, you know, when I was a kid, the 38 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: Nativity scene it was a white vest It looked like 39 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: the Doobie Brothers. Yeah, it was. In fact, they've got 40 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: a black guy in there. 41 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: Well, but if you look at the recent incarnation of 42 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: what they think Jesus looked like. I saw one recently, 43 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the image of him with this long romantic hair and 44 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: the beard, and he looks more like Tony Mockbell. Remember 45 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: the Victorian crew who wore a wig and tried to 46 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: disguise himself. 47 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: That's what That's what Jesus looked like. It's Middle Eastern 48 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: Anglicized Jesus. 49 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: Well, you don't get to choose, why not. That's what 50 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: this whole dispute's about. Moving the Nativity scene. So where 51 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: have they? Theroyed it destroyed aggressive, I set fire to it. 52 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: There's hay in the manger. Be careful man, was this 53 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 2: was ten years last night. 54 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: Away with the manger. No crib for year's end, the 55 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 3: little Lord Jesus left without a bed. 56 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: It's unacceptable. It's un Australian. 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: Mossman Council deciding not to display its famous Nativity scene 58 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: donated by former mayor Don Lopez fourteen years ago, and 59 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: it won't hold the Blessing of the Crib performance by 60 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 3: local school children in council's Seniors center during the Christmas markets. 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 3: The mayor says it's all about inclusiveness as the community 62 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: is not all ye faithful Well. 63 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: Counsel is a secular organization. It's actually not a place 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: that religion is on the agenda for us. 65 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: That's despite other councils holding events to mark Luna, New Year, 66 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: di Wali or eight. We should not be. 67 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: Shay from expressing our religion, our thief, whether it's Christian 68 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: or other fads. 69 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: Is the council now going to ban the carols at 70 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: Bao Moral because they're going to sing Christian songs? 71 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: They might do a backflip you reckon amen, and a 72 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: lot of dads would be praising the Lord that that 73 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: little concert's been canceled. Well, at Christmas time, it's the 74 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: end of the year. 75 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: And if you've got love, how you think mums like 76 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: that stuff? 77 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: No one likes it. Here's the news flash. No one 78 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: likes those concerts. They go too long. Cut them down 79 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: to ten minutes. 80 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: Well, they are saying they're still going to have their 81 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: Christmas trees and banners and they're going to have the 82 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: Nativity scene down at the carrols. So just taken it 83 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: out of council chambers. 84 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: But I like seeing the Nativity. 85 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: Do you set one up at home? 86 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: No? I used to have one, a little plastic like, 87 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: tiny like compared to what you. 88 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: You say weeded in your home. And I was grown up. 89 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: Mum and Dad's house a kid, and then Mum chucked 90 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: it out. Well you can't chuck sat on the jont pie. 91 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: But it was tiny. 92 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: How are you supposed to dispose of it? Wait for 93 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: the ascension? It be taken up into heaven. 94 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: Well there should be, you know, when you're doing your 95 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: council clean. 96 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: Up, it should be a religious one. 97 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they should be. You know some guy gets the mattress, 98 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: some guy gets the metal, some guy gets the religious artifacts. 99 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: We'll put that to your counsel, Brendan. Maybe when they 100 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: come to get the Christmas tree, if you've got a 101 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: real Christmas tree, they also take the old Nativity scenes 102 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: whatever you need to get Baby Jesus in the back. 103 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: Well, that baby Jesus is way too big. I'll get 104 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: a picture of it. It's proportion waited. 105 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: It would be disturbing to see it. Yeah, like little 106 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: baby Beyorn. 107 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: It's got like giganticism. 108 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: No one commented, no one saying, three. 109 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: Wise men are going Jesus better go and get some 110 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: more frankency. It's huge. 111 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: Mary's on an air rings. We say this with the 112 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: greatest of respect, Yes we do, don't add us