WEBVTT - JAYCEE GIVES US THE BIG BROTHER LOW DOWN

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>music sensation Jac from Big Brother twenty twenty two. He

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<v Speaker 1>has been eliminated from the competition and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>unpack his time in the house, plus to spell any

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<v Speaker 1>rumors that may have started during the series run. JC

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<v Speaker 1>entered the house with Alisha and Johnson, and the three

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<v Speaker 1>of them had an alliance like no other. The initial

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<v Speaker 1>bond had them in a friend group that looked destined

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<v Speaker 1>for the final three. The online betting odds had him

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<v Speaker 1>as a leading favorite amongst the newbies to win the competition,

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<v Speaker 1>and while he has lost that race, there is plenty

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate for this housemate who has a bright future ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>JC clashed with Drew, made alliances one challenges, and wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>his way through the Big Brother experience, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>talk about his new album, his secret or not so

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<v Speaker 1>secret girlfriend, the way in which he processed the game

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<v Speaker 1>post exit, and what he thinks will be in the

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<v Speaker 1>finale of Big Brother twenty twenty two on the twelfth

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<v Speaker 1>of July. Sadly, I don't think it will be a

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<v Speaker 1>disco remix of Oates Ala Leila. However, let's get started

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<v Speaker 1>with today's guest. I'd like to welcome JC to TV reload.

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<v Speaker 2>The show doesn't show two percent of what is actually happening.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been through a lot together hood we I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I was playing for the money this year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's my twenty first birth day. I had to work

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<v Speaker 2>on my social game. I had to really lean on

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<v Speaker 2>some personality traits that I normally wouldn't lean on. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've invited housemates both new and legendary, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>playing a similar game to Marley. Will the experience be

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<v Speaker 2>enough to take on the next generation of Housemaids. The

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<v Speaker 2>resilience that built from being on that show has made

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<v Speaker 2>me a better person. This is Big Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi JC, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up? How are we doing well?

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations on your time in the Big Brother House. Was

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<v Speaker 1>this experience anything like you expected?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, it was so much more than I expected. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was just gonna be. Yeah, we go in

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<v Speaker 2>the house, there's only some fun games and there's only

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<v Speaker 2>some twists and turns. But no, it's actually so much more.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned so much about myself. I had so much

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<v Speaker 2>personal growth fifty days in the house. It's like that's

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<v Speaker 2>your world. You really live and breathe everything you're told

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<v Speaker 2>and see, and those people in the house are like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's family now, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually really strange that that does exist that way,

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<v Speaker 1>because even the people you don't really like you end

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<v Speaker 1>up so supportive of them on the outside world as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can turn around and say to your mates, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, it's a nightmare, but if they say

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<v Speaker 1>that back to you, you're like, no.

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<v Speaker 2>You can never explain it. It's cool to have the

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<v Speaker 2>show because they get an idea of everyone, but there

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<v Speaker 2>is so much more that you can just never you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's between you and the house. You won't understand if

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<v Speaker 2>you tell someone.

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<v Speaker 1>You to me though, strike me as someone who's a

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<v Speaker 1>very together person. So when you talk about learning things

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<v Speaker 1>about yourself, can you tell me a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I want. The reason I did Big Brother was I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to show myself to Australia. People see me online

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<v Speaker 2>making tiktoks or forming or doing music, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to strip those labels off me for a second and

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<v Speaker 2>just be JC the human. And I quickly found that

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<v Speaker 2>I really was latching onto those identities in the real world.

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<v Speaker 2>I was latching onto those identities. I'm this artist, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>this guy. And then when I was in the house,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, I'm just I had to work

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<v Speaker 2>on my social game. I had to dig some stories

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<v Speaker 2>up from stories I've never told. I had to really

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<v Speaker 2>lean on some personality traits that I normally wouldn't lean on.

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<v Speaker 2>And being in the house just surrounded by so many

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<v Speaker 2>big personalities, I thought I was a big personality. But

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm like, Okay, maybe I need to take a

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<v Speaker 2>step back and change my change what strategy I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there maybe a little bit of truth behind the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to hide who we truly are? Or who you

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<v Speaker 1>truly are. When you're on platforms like TikTok, they're highly edited.

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<v Speaker 1>You can control what you want to put out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, you're handing something like

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<v Speaker 1>your entire identity over to something like Big Brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think control is the key word there. When

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<v Speaker 2>you have control of the product, you can really do

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<v Speaker 2>anything you want. Like, you know, I edit my tiktoks

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<v Speaker 2>so and I can do as many takes as I want.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you're in the BB houses, old, go, go go,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just got to surrender to the process and

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<v Speaker 2>let Big Brother edit it how he wants, put it

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<v Speaker 2>up how he wants. And there's no takes in Big Brother.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all on the fly. You don't know what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be on the show either, so you just got

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<v Speaker 2>to always show up. And I think the resilience that

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<v Speaker 2>built from being on that show has made me a

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<v Speaker 2>better person because every single day you've got to give

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<v Speaker 2>it like one hundred and ten percent because you just

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the currency for Big Brother and the way

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<v Speaker 1>in which you need to connect with audiences and the

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<v Speaker 1>other housemates is being your most authentic self. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>showing the good and the bad, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>when people sort of connect to you. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that game has forced you to do that

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<v Speaker 1>in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, yeah, there was definitely some very triumphant moments, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had some kind of funny moments at bad moments,

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<v Speaker 2>as you would say, like the shopping challenge where I

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<v Speaker 2>messed up, and then I had my great moment where

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<v Speaker 2>the second chance challenge to win against Lara and Lulu,

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, there's there was many sides to my character

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<v Speaker 2>on the show, and I think, yeah, I played a

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<v Speaker 2>really great social game and I'm proud of myself for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really happy with your entire gameplay until we

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<v Speaker 1>got to the eviction.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I'm being honest, do I even want to stay here?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to see Johnson's go home, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to see Alsia going because I want to

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<v Speaker 2>lead you to win. Maybe I should just tell you, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>oh that I don't want to be here anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And I felt like, you're I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>His speech was really shocking to me because You've given

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<v Speaker 1>up so much to be there, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 1>here you were saying no, I eliminate me. Was that

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<v Speaker 1>how you really felt.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's more so the fact that the people

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<v Speaker 2>are sitting next to you know. I had Johnson, who

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<v Speaker 2>was like my best mate in the house. I had Alisia,

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<v Speaker 2>was another best friend in the house, and we came

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<v Speaker 2>in the house together and we wanted to be the

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<v Speaker 2>final three together. And I just knew that it meant

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<v Speaker 2>maybe more to them. Johnson was a super fan, Alicia

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<v Speaker 2>had this crazy backstory, and I felt like I did

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<v Speaker 2>fifty days in the house. Now I could. I could

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<v Speaker 2>leave and be happy, but I know Johnson it would

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<v Speaker 2>probably live with them a little bit more because it's

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<v Speaker 2>his dream to do Big Brother. It wasn't so much

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<v Speaker 2>like vote me out. It was just more so And

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<v Speaker 2>it could have been strategy even at the time, because

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to organize a blind side on Elisha.

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<v Speaker 2>At one point during the scramble, I was in the

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<v Speaker 2>treehouse with Brenton and I was like, I need you

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<v Speaker 2>to put a point in Elisha. And I said it

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<v Speaker 2>to Tarras, I need you to put a point on Leisha.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very clear that people had their mindset. Brenton

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yo, man, look, I can't do that. I

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<v Speaker 2>have to put it on you, Like as much as

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want it, I have to put it on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Reggie had a mindset. Tim obviously, Gabby obviously. I knew

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<v Speaker 2>it was so obviously going to be me if Estale

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<v Speaker 2>and Taras held their votes and I put one on

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson and then miraculously someone to other people did or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever I could have, I could have forced the draw

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<v Speaker 2>but even if I forced the drawer, Tim's the one

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<v Speaker 2>calling the shots. I kind of came to grips with it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that's what that was in the eviction room.

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<v Speaker 1>So it has nothing to do with maybe your passion

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<v Speaker 1>for the game lacking a little bit because of maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that being a symptom of the way in which you

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<v Speaker 1>were picked. I mean, Johnson is a super fan and

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<v Speaker 1>Alisha I believe both of them applied the normal way

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, producers found you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there was a point a part where

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to win them. Well, it's not that

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to win the money, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I was playing for the money, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't. There was a part of me It's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to win this thing. I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do this. I know what I'm My thing is. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a musician. I'm an artist. I'm a performer. That's

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<v Speaker 2>really my passion. And I was like Johnson, the same

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<v Speaker 2>way I feel about music is how Johnson feels about

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<v Speaker 2>this game. You know, he's watched every single episode and

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<v Speaker 2>he's watched every single thing, and You're right, he had

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<v Speaker 2>the passion for it. And I had the passion for

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<v Speaker 2>the experience, and the passion for the tests and the

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<v Speaker 2>challenges and just trying something new and bettering myself. But

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<v Speaker 2>the passion to take it all the way to the

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<v Speaker 2>end and go down as a Big Brother legend, not

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<v Speaker 2>so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I think it's a great answer. From the

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<v Speaker 1>minute I heard that you were going into the show,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you were a recognizable person on the outside

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<v Speaker 1>that we could google and we could already have seen

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<v Speaker 1>in some capacity. And then I was curious about this

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<v Speaker 1>whole Big Brother experience. I mean, how has been on

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother affected your music? You know, has been on

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<v Speaker 1>reality TV added to your fan base?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it did what I thought it was. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, what it's done has showed people another

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<v Speaker 2>side of me. The fans that have been watching now

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they know j Seymour. People know me now

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<v Speaker 2>for JC, not just JC the artists. It's definitely opened

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<v Speaker 2>me up to a new demographic. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>translated like like if there was a graph. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>like Big Brother than Music, Spike. It hasn't really translated

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<v Speaker 2>like that where I've seen massive waves of new fans

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<v Speaker 2>and new streams and all this sort of thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's just for the people that knew, they now

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<v Speaker 2>know me more. It's a bit of credibility for my

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<v Speaker 2>profile moving forward. But I quickly learned that I had

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<v Speaker 2>to disconnect from the show because the show doesn't show

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<v Speaker 2>two percent of what is actually happening. So I disconnected

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<v Speaker 2>from the show, and I think the main thing was

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<v Speaker 2>the experience I took, the person I became from it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I completely forgot I was a musician when I

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<v Speaker 2>was in the house. To be honest, I couldn't remember

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<v Speaker 2>any of my songs. I couldn't remember I couldn't remember

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<v Speaker 2>anything from the outside world to do with music and

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<v Speaker 2>to do with my career. It was just JC, this

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<v Speaker 2>kid like I was one of the youngest in the houses.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in the house. I was just in there,

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<v Speaker 2>giving it my own and I was happy to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>And once I hit that top ten, the fifty day mark,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw you know, Tim, how he was playing. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw Reggie, she had every reason to be there. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw Alisha and Johnson, who was a dream, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just was like, I'm happy if they beat me, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to. I've gotten what I've wanted out

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<v Speaker 2>of the experience. And there's an exception of a few

0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.520
<v Speaker 2>of the other housemates I would have I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>had the same feeling like I would have probably fought

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<v Speaker 2>a little harder, but I knew that ultimately fifty days,

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<v Speaker 2>I can be proud of myself at this point and

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I achieved what I set out to achieve.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it been like watching this back, my friend? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there have been some epic blind sides and sneaky moves.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why I ask you this question is I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder whether or not this show and you know, lying

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<v Speaker 1>and cheating and stealing suited your personality.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I know what you mean the lying. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a good liar and I don't really lie. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>good at my social game is really good when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes down to deals and stuff. I'm good at you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I connect with people and people want me there. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said it on the last interview, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>played one of the best social games and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a little underrepresented. You don't really hear a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>my dialogue. But there's a reason why I was in

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<v Speaker 2>the top ten, and there's a reason why there's tears

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<v Speaker 2>and there's all these emotions every time I'm in the picture,

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<v Speaker 2>because I really had genuine connections and it wasn't some

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<v Speaker 2>alliance deal stuff. It wasn't a shake of a hand.

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<v Speaker 2>It was I just like this guy. You know. I

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<v Speaker 2>made sure I went in there with a message to

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<v Speaker 2>represent the underdog, represent the people that have a dream

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<v Speaker 2>and they feel like the world's against him or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is. I really came in there with a message

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<v Speaker 2>and I made sure to represent that. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>the housemates resonated with that as well, because, believe it

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<v Speaker 2>or not, every single head of house I went up

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<v Speaker 2>and I did a speech, and I kept going up.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept going up, and I eventually got it. In

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<v Speaker 2>the end. I always got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a few times where I was up for

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<v Speaker 2>a viction and I won the second Chance challenge. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there was all these moments where people just resonated with

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<v Speaker 2>and people respected, and that the show doesn't show a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I felt like you were kind of flying under

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<v Speaker 1>the radar, you know, was that part of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't? Yeah, I definitely wasn't. I it was very clear

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<v Speaker 2>from the start I was with the newbies, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was very clear that I was quite physically strong, and

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<v Speaker 2>people knew I was a threat and I was playing

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<v Speaker 2>a similar game to Mali. People that people in the

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<v Speaker 2>house would say that, they're like, oh, man, if you

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<v Speaker 2>if you get through, you're playing a similar game to Mali.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, everyone loves you and you haven't really caused

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<v Speaker 2>any Yeah, you don't really have any enemies. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Drew was probably the only real like relationship that came across.

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<v Speaker 2>As we didn't get along. I wasn't avoiding conflict. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't avoiding anything. It's really just the storylines they went with.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really good point when you bring up Maley,

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<v Speaker 1>because have any former housemates influenced your game? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>did you watch some old seasons back to take notes?

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously bringing Maley up now. You know, it makes

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<v Speaker 1>me think maybe you did try and lean in and

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<v Speaker 1>borrow some of the tactics.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not that I borrowed it. Like, I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>did my research going in. I put it down to

0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.280
<v Speaker 2>one thing with this new format, the winner is always

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<v Speaker 2>someone that people just like. The winner is always just

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<v Speaker 2>a good person. The winner is never someone who's wheeling

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<v Speaker 2>and dealing and lying and cheating, And so I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, that's perfect, because that's who I am. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I definitely watched Maley and I watched this

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<v Speaker 2>season one winner. I quickly found out that I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do what I do best and just be me

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<v Speaker 2>and not shake hands with anyone too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Just actually, I'm going to go into something really quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking also about your singing and not remembering all

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<v Speaker 1>your lyrics and things like that in the house. But

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of rumors going around that you

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<v Speaker 1>sung a rap version of Oats Ala Leila, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of fans watching the show hoping to

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<v Speaker 1>see oats Ala Leila back. Was that true? Was there

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<v Speaker 1>a moment in the house where you rapped a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of oats Salalila.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was. There were so many moments where I

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<v Speaker 2>was making music in the house. Yeah, definitely, will jam

0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.240
<v Speaker 2>and Oates, will jam me and terrass with jamming all

0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.880
<v Speaker 2>the time. We're making drums out of the pillows. And

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<v Speaker 2>one of the first episodes you hear Tim saying I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sick of jay Z's raps and sick to the vent machine,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was true. I was always just you know, jamming,

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<v Speaker 2>even the steale me in her We're going back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth rapping and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean Estelle is a is a rapper.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she applied for X Factor back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day because yes, she was wanting to get into her music.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I did Big Brother with Estelle, she was

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<v Speaker 1>wrapping every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice, I had no idea. She told me she

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<v Speaker 2>freestyles and she does a few open mics.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a real divide happening on the show

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to have spilled out into the real world.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, do you think the real problem is

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<v Speaker 1>behind the tension that seems to have been created after

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<v Speaker 1>doing the show?

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<v Speaker 2>The real problem it is coming to grips with a

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<v Speaker 2>show and the experience. That was one thing I had

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<v Speaker 2>to really realize. It was like I was frustrated a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the time because I was watching it and

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<v Speaker 2>just going, ah, that didn't happen on this. It didn't

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<v Speaker 2>show this and this and this and this and this

0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.000
<v Speaker 2>common to grips with, you know what, this is just

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<v Speaker 2>a show. We're not watching what we did. We're just

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<v Speaker 2>watching some characters and some We're watching a program, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's a storyline. And I think there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of confusion with that at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>and people still had their head in their game. When

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<v Speaker 2>the game was finished, people were still doing the same

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<v Speaker 2>sort of you know, just digging and trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>like just still playing the game. You know, Oh you

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<v Speaker 2>told me this, you told me that. It's like whatever

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<v Speaker 2>we said in that is like you just got to

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<v Speaker 2>forget about now because it doesn't apply to the real world.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I don't know too much about it too much,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think from the housemates i've spoken to it,

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<v Speaker 2>which is all of them, everyone was just a little

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like they saw the show and they felt

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<v Speaker 2>a way about how because everyone has their story in

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<v Speaker 2>their head, you know, it's my story. This needed They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't show this. They didn't show that, and everyone kind

0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.760
<v Speaker 2>of felt a little a little way about not seeing

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<v Speaker 2>their favorite moment or how an argument was cut up

0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.840
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. But that's it. That's show biz.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's all going to settle down once

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<v Speaker 1>the show comes to an end? I mean, do you

0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.520
<v Speaker 1>think that that anxiety or that tension has built and

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<v Speaker 1>is still there while the show is still playing, but

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<v Speaker 1>then once it comes to an end, that it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>put to bed.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some relationships that probably won't. I know that we

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<v Speaker 2>got the final together and we're all going to be

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<v Speaker 2>together again, and it's amazing what a few drinks can

0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.359
<v Speaker 2>do and a good night out can do. So I

0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.680
<v Speaker 2>don't think there's any long term grudges. I think we're

0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.159
<v Speaker 2>all we can all talk it out, and I know

0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.639
<v Speaker 2>some people a little more stubborn than others, So who knows.

0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.320
<v Speaker 1>It's just going to be a really big family reunion,

0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and all family reunions there's always going to have some

0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:38.280
<v Speaker 1>problematic and complicated relationships amongst siblings. Yeah, but it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll watch us watching a show the other day with

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<v Speaker 1>my partner and it was, oh, it's like the Real

0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Housewives and they went on this Ultimate Girl's trip, but

0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.800
<v Speaker 1>they were all ex housewives and they finally were back

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<v Speaker 1>together sort of sorting out their dramas from previous seasons

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<v Speaker 1>of the show. And about ten minutes into watching these

0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.720
<v Speaker 1>confrontations that have happened, Ben said, this is like when

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<v Speaker 1>you have your big brother housemates come and stayed out

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<v Speaker 1>house and they have to say all this stuff. It's like, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Knows exactly like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, anyway, you've got to have a sense of

0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.119
<v Speaker 1>humor about it. But I'm glad to do. I'm glad that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you told the housemates that you were single,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people talking about it in the

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<v Speaker 1>media because it wasn't really true. But I mean, I

0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.760
<v Speaker 1>haven't personally asked you or given you a voice to

0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.480
<v Speaker 1>explain that, you know, what's the truth behind this secret

0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:28.800
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend secret?

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<v Speaker 2>It's no secret anymore. I don't actually haven't seen anything

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<v Speaker 2>on this. Yeah, So in the house, I was single,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a situation where you know, I had

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<v Speaker 2>an ex that I was rekindling with and I still

0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.560
<v Speaker 2>felt very strongly about. And the thing when you're in

0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.880
<v Speaker 2>the house, you have a lot of time to think

0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.719
<v Speaker 2>and reflect, like I remember laying in my bed at

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<v Speaker 2>night and I would be like, man, I really miss Kristin,

0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I really miss my mom, I really miss my best friends.

0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like you're away at war, you know,

0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.000
<v Speaker 2>like you're a soldier at war and you've got your

0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.600
<v Speaker 2>photos on your bedside table and you're just thinking and

0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:09.160
<v Speaker 2>you're just like, Wow, life on the outside world. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's no secret any like there's no secrets here or

0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:16.000
<v Speaker 2>anything like that. It's just that's my personal relationship life.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I just I actually haven't seen anything on

0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:22.280
<v Speaker 2>this situation, on this topic. Even if I did, it's

0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.240
<v Speaker 2>like that had nothing to do with my game anyway.

0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't even think I once spoke about like, oh

0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.119
<v Speaker 2>this guy like in the house or anything like that.

0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:30.720
<v Speaker 2>I was just playing a social game and I was

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<v Speaker 2>just doing me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I am happy for you that you have got

0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.880
<v Speaker 1>that relationship now. I think that's beautiful. And it's interesting

0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.399
<v Speaker 1>that you even say this because the where I was

0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.640
<v Speaker 1>coming from is in a history of Big Brother around

0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.199
<v Speaker 1>the world, a lot of boys get back together with

0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:49.280
<v Speaker 1>their ex girlfriends after their experience, and so I just

0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:53.919
<v Speaker 1>thought it was a really interesting, yeah, very very common

0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.720
<v Speaker 1>story in England and in America and Canada, a lot

0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.360
<v Speaker 1>of boys get back together with their ex girlfriends. And

0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Gorench as another person. You know, he's he got

0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.560
<v Speaker 1>back together with his ex girlfriend and they're still together.

0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, makes sense. It makes sense. You have a

0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 2>lot of clarity in the house and you strip back

0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:14.280
<v Speaker 2>all the drama of the real world.

0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 3>And you can just you just think, think, well, let's

0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.960
<v Speaker 3>talk about this whole Drew situation, because a number of

0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.240
<v Speaker 3>housemates have come out, and I must admit I didn't

0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.000
<v Speaker 3>really notice that much of attention between the two of

0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.560
<v Speaker 3>you watching the show, but a number of housemates have

0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.159
<v Speaker 3>come out and said that there was a personality clash

0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:31.920
<v Speaker 3>with you and Drew.

0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 1>What happened between you, you two guys, because from what

0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I know of Drew and what I can see from you,

0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:42.240
<v Speaker 1>you guys have fairly chilled out guys. But you know,

0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I think after this, you know, the eviction of you,

0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:51.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a hashtag of justice for Drew, so obviously there's

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:53.080
<v Speaker 1>there's some tension there.

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I think me and Drew got off

0:20:56.320 --> 0:21:00.440
<v Speaker 2>on the wrong foot because we will we were friends

0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:06.000
<v Speaker 2>through association. More so, he was very close with Johnson,

0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.680
<v Speaker 2>and Johnson was my best friend, and he was very

0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:11.480
<v Speaker 2>close with you know, just all the other newbies, but

0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.119
<v Speaker 2>not so much me. But we kind of felt obliged

0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:18.119
<v Speaker 2>to work together still because you know, well we had

0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:21.680
<v Speaker 2>all the same friends. He knew that the thing with

0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Big Brother, all it takes is one nomination point and

0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:30.040
<v Speaker 2>your perception changes on someone. So as soon as I

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.280
<v Speaker 2>think it might have been me, I fired the first shot,

0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.440
<v Speaker 2>put a point on him. It just from that point

0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:37.680
<v Speaker 2>on it just kind of went downhill, downhill, downhill. And

0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.440
<v Speaker 2>because Drew was in the eviction chair so much, I

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<v Speaker 2>would always just go, you know what, this guy needs

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<v Speaker 2>to go. It wasn't anything personal. It was just more

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<v Speaker 2>so like we have similar personalities, but I think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>more creative and more He's really logical and I'm more creative.

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<v Speaker 2>Put it that way. So the way I would talk

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<v Speaker 2>is more, you know, I use a lot of metaphors

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of year I analyze things weird and

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<v Speaker 2>I see things in a different way, and he's really

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<v Speaker 2>just like straight down the line. And we kind of

0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.399
<v Speaker 2>he saw that maybe he's a bit ignorant, and he

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<v Speaker 2>would kind of insult my intelligence a bit and I

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<v Speaker 2>saw him as a bit of a party pooper, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a bit just like we didn't jail too much, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>share the same humor. You see that a little bit

0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.359
<v Speaker 2>when he was like calling me a human meat bag,

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<v Speaker 2>and was when I was doing the Second Chance Challenge,

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<v Speaker 2>he was like do you have one brain cell? And

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<v Speaker 2>all that type of thing. And it wasn't like a

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't to the point where we actually had an argument.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually there was a few little blow up blowouts, but

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't have that. We just didn't have that relationship

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<v Speaker 2>and he was not on my priority list at all.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't have each other's back. Drew played a game

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<v Speaker 2>that I it was just so different to mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you spoken to him in the outside world.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we haven't even spoken. Like we have a group

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<v Speaker 2>chat and stuff, but I haven't given him a call

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<v Speaker 2>or he hasn't given me a call.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you're spending lots of time in Melbourne, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably go to some of his clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one like, if we see him, I'm sure it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be like, we have a great chat and it'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just yeah, it's just we don't feel the urge

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, it was a game, and what happened happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, yeah. And then Johnson and Alisha have survived

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<v Speaker 1>the elimination. Who do you think out of those two

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 1>players have played the best game? Well, I mean, actually

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<v Speaker 1>a good question to be to ask you maybe is

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<v Speaker 1>who do you think out of all the newbies has

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<v Speaker 1>played the best game?

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson's played an unbelievable game. What I think is Johnson's

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<v Speaker 2>played the best OG format. He you know, he's really

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<v Speaker 2>just been a genuine guy. He's made great relationships and

0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 2>he's done a bit of deal shaking and a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of strategy, and he was the guy that like he

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:43.479
<v Speaker 2>had pegs in his drawer, he was crunching numbers when

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to bed. He really thought it out,

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 2>and you can tell he's watched a lot of Big Brother.

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Then you have someone like Tarras who played a great

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:54.679
<v Speaker 2>new format game. He won a bunch of challenges and

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 2>he played Under the Raider all the way to the

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<v Speaker 2>top ten. I feel like they played it. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like Arras and Johnson played really great game. Alicia also,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see either one of them win.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you taken any money to sports Bet? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>put any money down on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet apparently I'm up there as the most likely to win,

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 2>so I might just better myself.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, you know the outcome. You know the outcome,

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 1>my friend, you can't do that. Don't bet on your side.

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.159
<v Speaker 2>I haven't really done any betting on sports bet I

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 2>probably should look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. The finale is happening on the twelfth of July,

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<v Speaker 1>and I it would be remissive me not to ask you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any inside goss on what we can

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<v Speaker 1>expect to see in that finale?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. There might be a few heated

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 2>conversations like that. Actually, I think some gameplay is going

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 2>to get brought up. Yeah, I can make it a

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.639
<v Speaker 2>little heated, spicy, little spicy.

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:48.679
<v Speaker 1>Well. To celebrate Big Brother and twenty one years of

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 1>being on Australian television, I've been asking the top ten

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 1>questions that Gretel Colleen, who you might not know because

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>you might not have been born when Gretel Colleen was

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:01.640
<v Speaker 1>hosting Big Brother, but she would these rapid fire questions,

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:04.400
<v Speaker 1>these ten questions everyone who leaves the house. So I'm

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna run through them with you. Yeah, what did you

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>miss the most while you're inside the Big Brother House.

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Food nothing like being hungry.

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just hungry all the time.

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Who was your favorite person inside the house?

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Johnson, Alicia Tarass You got to pick one.

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.439
<v Speaker 1>That's not fun when you say three people.

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know it's not fun. Yeah, those were my people.

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Towards the end, Tarras was me and him had probably

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 2>the best relationship.

0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Who was your least favorite person inside the Big Brother House?

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Gabby and Tim? No, Gabby and Drew.

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Pick one, you can't pick two? Drew. Who had the

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<v Speaker 1>most annoying habit out of all the housemates?

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh Gabby, so messy, so messy. My bed was next

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 2>to hers and she had cups of milk and she

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 2>had apple cores all around her bed and a clothes

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 2>are everywhere she was. Yeah, Gabby.

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 1>And who was the funniest person inside the house?

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Who I found the funniest? I actually found tarrass hilarious.

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:11.160
<v Speaker 2>It's quirky humor, and yeah I found it funny ass.

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of people saying Tarras so and it's funny.

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>We're not really seeing all of his jokes, Like, I mean,

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>people aren't walking away saying that he's the funniest out

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.400
<v Speaker 1>of there, but a lot of housemates answering these questions

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 1>have picked haresque who was the laziest person in the house.

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:28.959
<v Speaker 2>I would say Gabby was the laziest, Like she didn't plange,

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:31.679
<v Speaker 2>she didn't do anything. I was cooking most most of

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the Knights, and I got voted the laziest house mate.

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 2>But I was cooking most of the Knights. I was

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 2>doing a lot. I think it was my attitude that

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:40.920
<v Speaker 2>came across lazy because I'm a chill guy.

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>They clearly don't understand the word lazy. They're taking out

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>your chilled and.

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I realized that what, how am I the laziest?

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>What was your greatest regret? Now the competition is over? Well,

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.679
<v Speaker 1>now that your game is over, what is your greatest regret?

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Probably sending Lulu home? Well, putting a point on Lulu

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 2>and not Sam.

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting, you know that I've asked these questions

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>to everyone that's left the show. I think she's coming

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.120
<v Speaker 1>out as like miss congeniality after the show. I think

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:10.400
<v Speaker 1>that there's a lot of love for her.

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:12.879
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of love there. She Yeah, it was

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 2>very sad when she went, yeah, I know the game

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 2>is a game, but that was probably something that hurt

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 2>the most for me.

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Who will be out next? Not who you know will

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 1>be out, but who did you think would be out

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>following your house?

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 2>I know that sending me home has really shooken up

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 2>the newbies because now Gabby has really proven that she's

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 2>not playing with the newbies anymore. Gabby is all over

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 2>the shop. She tells people what she wants to hear.

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 2>She's I took her up to the head of how

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 2>sweet with me and we would chat and she I'm

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 2>not coming for you. I'm not coming for you. And

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 2>now doing the move she did with Tim has shown

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 2>the house who she really is. I think she's next.

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Who do you think is going to win Big Brother

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two? Again, not what you know now, but

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 1>like who do you think?

0:27:57.800 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>And I said this from the first week, I think

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Reggie is most likely just based on who she is this, Yeah, Reggie.

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Reggie is the most likable based on the show as well.

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Who do I want to win?

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:10.639
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Any of the newbies I'd be happy to win? I

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 2>think it's it's a new experience and I think the

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 2>Ogs have had that already their moment on the show

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.360
<v Speaker 2>and it would be great to see someone new take

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 2>it out.

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>What is something something I ask everyone who joins the podcast,

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>what is something from behind the scenes that this you

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 1>know from your time in Big Brother that where's an

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 1>audience didn't see and we won't see something of a

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>like a behind the scenes secret on the makings of

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Big Brother.

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 2>The Challenge. Okay, so the actual challenge basement and the

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Challenge arena, they're like a bit of a drive away,

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>so we would have to you know, jump out of

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 2>the car withuse blindfold not blindfold, like be silent and

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 2>just drive to this spot when do the challenges. And

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>the actual elevator that you see isn't actually an elevator.

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 2>It's just a room and you step in there and

0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 2>you just stand there for a bit and you walk

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 2>out the door. Yeah, it's not it's a different places.

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 2>The house isn't that big. There's no elevator in the house.

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>In Big Brother VIP, Caitlin Jenner was climbing through event

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>and they had you know, the sound of the event

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>being popped sort of and the housemates going, what's that noise?

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>And it just looked so much like you know.

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, But now it wasn't like that.

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, look, there's been so great chatting with you. Your

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>most recent project, which has come before the Storm, dropped

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>on June tenth. If people want to go out and

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>get that, what's the best way for them to get

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>involved with your music?

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so just jc Ja y Cee, Spotify, YouTube, Apple

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Music you'll find it. Google it Calm before the Storm.

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 2>It's a body of work that kind of symbolizes where

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm out in my life right now,

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>is to calm before this big storm that comes in

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 2>the storm actually being the best version of myself. So

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 2>it's an inspirational tape. There's a lot of mixed messages

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 2>that people can read a eat way. Then I'm proud

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 2>of it.

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it's an amazing idea as well. I mean

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>it's the story of your life, you know, broken down

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>into eleven songs.

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that sounds like a great recipe for young

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 1>people to get involved and appreciate your music. So yeah,

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about that for you, my friend, and I

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>wish you all the best.

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>And if they want to see it live and want

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 2>to be in Sydney, Brisbane and.

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Tazzy, I think so July third in Brisbane and the

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>ninth YEP for Sydney and then you get seventeenth in Hobart.

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jim, you've done your research.

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Jason, I absolutely loved watching you in the show. You

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>were so fantastic as a housemate. You brought a lot

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>to it and yeah, well can't wait to see the

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>finale and see where you go with your music.

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Ben, appreciate it.