1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: We would be seeing a minute work song six twelve 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: hundred people the men at working be down the road. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: But I only did the people party and the venue 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: the bands. 5 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 3: It was a way of. 6 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 4: Lisa's pub draw. 7 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 5: We have a new feature that over the next couple 8 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 5: of weeks, so we're going to celebrate at this time 9 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 5: taking a look at the Perth pub and band scene 10 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 5: back in the day. Yeah, late seventies, through the eighties. 11 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 6: The eighties, even into the early nineties. But what a 12 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 6: city it's been. I mean, we did have a reputation 13 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 6: as a cover band city for a long time. Yeah, 14 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 6: also been a lot of great originals. 15 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 7: We's been a lot of great originals. 16 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 5: The city of ours music and our first guest is 17 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 5: going to be one of those, Alan Simpson from V Capri. 18 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 6: There any one bigger in the eighties than V Capri 19 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 6: with their sensational mullets and their fans, with maybe four 20 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 6: hundred girls down the front of the stage, and they 21 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 6: were on countdown more than once and they had multiple 22 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 6: number ones here in Perth. Good morning, on good morning, 23 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 6: good welcome. How good was it hearing that on the radio? 24 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 7: Last time we heard that on the radiot? 25 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: I don't play that song every day. It's been a while, 26 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: but it was at. 27 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 7: Number one hit there guy, absolutely not only one. 28 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 5: What was it like being one in one of the 29 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 5: biggest bands in Perth in the eighties. 30 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: It was hard. I'll tell you. You don't have to 31 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: get up about twelve o'clock during the day, go straight 32 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: to the beach, work on in suntan and then that's 33 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 3: about it, really, I suppose until the weekend came around 34 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: and then off we went right day Saturdland Sunday. 35 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, and those crowds were they were just incredible. I 36 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 6: mean the Nook and Burrow with their Nook and Busters them. 37 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 6: The crowds at the Overflow absolutely big. 38 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well there was there was back then. There was 39 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: lots of big, big, big venues. In the morning. We 40 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: played at the Florida Friday, the Overflow which was the 41 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: Borough yes Saturday, and then the Rappeles on Sunday sessions. 42 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: So they were they were big dayes, that's for sure. 43 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 5: What was your favorite venue to play, Ash. 44 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: I think the Pinnacle was the Overflow. Everyone thought that 45 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: was the yeah, because it was so big that we 46 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: held the record. We had about two thy two hundred 47 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: and there. It was only licensed for about fifteen hundred 48 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: and the cops did turn up one night and there 49 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: was cash going everywhere. I can tell you there were 50 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 3: all the doors are open and it was it was 51 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: pretty big. 52 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, my dog walked into one of those gigs one 53 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 6: night and I reckon there was six hundred girls down 54 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 6: the front and all the jealous boyfriends up the back. 55 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 6: You must have gotten used to seeing that you were 56 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 6: down the back, of course, absolutely. 57 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, yeah, well it was. I mean we 58 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: sort of modeled ourselves. Look, you do the history of music, 59 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: the best looking bands really get the most girls. And 60 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: there was five recently good looking blokes in the band, 61 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: and and you know, we did make ourselves available. Put 62 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: it that way. 63 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 5: You know what else you're embraced from the time, the 64 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 5: lofty hair we you know, you and the rest of us. 65 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 5: We are responsible for that hole on the ozone lad 66 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 5: that we had back there with all the hairspray. 67 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it wasn't just as we used to hit 68 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: right now, but of course we always get the streangth 69 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 3: in the hair, and you know, was always good, you 70 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: know in between sense, you know, you want to write 71 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: down the back and we have a break and get 72 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: the head drawer out and couldn't go on look at 73 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: all wet and shaggy. So you know, we always got 74 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: a head right close by. 75 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 7: I reckon you might have done some shopping at renis. 76 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 8: All. 77 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think they. 78 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: I think they sponsored us at some point. 79 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 10: I did. 80 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 11: Well. 81 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: We were quite fashioned icons, absolutely. 82 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 83 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 6: Actually who had the best mode of mine? Was it 84 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 6: Lance or Todd? What do you reckon? Was the revote? 85 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 12: I agree? 86 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: The different stages. You know, I always had a limit 87 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: and a half hour ago, but I mean Lance was 88 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: pretty good. God Todd towards the end he really buffed 89 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: it up pretty big. And Nick was always there as well, 90 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: and I were always pretty controlled here. We didn't we didn't. 91 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: We didn't need to put so much emphasis on the 92 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: heads the chick. 93 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 7: Okay, tell us about the nook and busters. 94 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: Okay, Nooking Busters was always a long weekend. It was 95 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: like a Sunday session or a Monday whoever the biggest 96 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 3: whoever the biggest band was at the time used to 97 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: basically underwrite it. Uh so we you know, we did 98 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: quite a few times. So we would play the other 99 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 3: bands a fee to play there with us, and then 100 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: we take the door. So you'd start about four o'clock 101 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 3: and you go through to about I suppose, and you 102 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 3: know that with this pack weques going to right around 103 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: the place. They didn't have the Florida they did one 104 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: as well, Raffles, Rippers and all those there was. That 105 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: was the thing to put it. You know, this was 106 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: a lot much as Vegan pre There's a lot big 107 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: bands around back then. We were the most remembered because 108 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 3: we invested our money quite well back into the band, 109 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: you know, with video clips and recordings and albums and 110 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: stuff like that, where a lot of other bands probably 111 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: invested in cigarette. 112 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 6: Papers they've was it like because Molly couldn't resist getting 113 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 6: on Countdown? Of course because of the West Australian hits 114 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 6: you had the number ones. What was it like going 115 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 6: on Contdown for the first time. 116 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: Well, it was a bit of a disappointment really because 117 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: he wasn't even there. It was all pre takes. Nick 118 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: and Todd were stuck in Sydney and the other three 119 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 3: of us were in Melbourne. Now I don't sing at all, right, 120 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: and they said, look, we'll get half of the film 121 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: clip done before the other two turn up and then 122 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: we'll add them into it and make up a clip 123 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: to make out its live. We are okay, and so 124 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: I had to pretend to do harmonies. There is a 125 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: video clip on YouTube with me and a night Purple 126 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: Top looking so interested in doing these harmonies with ramps, 127 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: and I think it was Gaby in there. 128 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 5: You mentioned, of course there were some really great bands 129 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 5: around in Perth at the time. Who were some of 130 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 5: your favorites that were playing around the pubs? 131 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: Well, I mean Perfect Strangers was kind of opposition. They 132 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: were signed to CBS back in the day and we 133 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: were signed to munch Room Records. The friends were always good. 134 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: They were always early. Fingerprints were early loaded, Dice were 135 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 3: in early before us. So they were the ones that 136 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: we grew up looking at. The boys of course, weren 137 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: the one wooker, the love hooker, watching Steve Wench and 138 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: you know, and because now the famous Gary Dunn on 139 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: guitar then, I mean, jeez, Flying Foster Realies was very 140 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: good if you went to a bonsie, the audience participation 141 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: with those guys Alf and Richard. They were just so 142 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: good to get the cloud to shake the take their 143 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: tail feathers and. 144 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 6: Do whatever they wanted, didn't I just like Jack and 145 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 6: they would lose I love that. 146 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 12: Yeah. 147 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they sort of style it around that, you know. 148 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 6: There, Well, we're going to be talking to a lot 149 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 6: of those people over the next week or two. Some 150 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 6: of the names you mentioned, some famous Perth rock names. 151 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 13: Yeah. 152 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: Well, it was great, It was great times. It was 153 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: a big scene. 154 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 14: You know. 155 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: All we had to do back in those days was 156 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: you had to go to the movies, you know, or 157 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: you go to the beach, we go to the pubs. 158 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: Up until up until the late eighties, that was really 159 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: all you had to do. And you know, there were 160 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: so many bands. If you pulled two or three hundred 161 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: or four hundred, you were just an average band. If 162 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: you got up to about eight or nine hundred, you 163 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: had potential. But then the big ones is to pull 164 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: a minimum of say four to fifteen hundred people, and 165 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: then to do that three nights a week. Well, every 166 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: venue wanted that. The money that was being changed over 167 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: the bars making those days it's incredible. 168 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 7: Vakapri had their own merchandise. 169 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 5: Were you a bit of a pioneer for that side 170 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 5: of things because not all the bands had merch Well. 171 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were pretty clever with the marketing I was 172 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,559 Speaker 3: always a salesman, you know, looking forward to the band 173 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: and even afterwards. So you know, we were doing well 174 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: on the pubs and I said, look, we need to 175 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: step it up a bit. We shouldn't start doing our 176 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: own songs. But none of us had written a song, 177 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: so we had a crack out. I got involved with 178 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: Mick I think it was, and Lanson. We wrote the 179 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: first song and we didn't have a B side and 180 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: I said, well, we don't need a B side. No 181 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 3: one plays the bloody and B side. And they said, 182 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: well are we going to do? I said, we'll put 183 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: a picture of ourselves on the back. So we had 184 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: these forty five singles back in the day, the little 185 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: forty five, and all the guys were in the office 186 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: and we were putting the stickers on the back. It 187 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: was black and white the first one and that reached 188 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: about number twenty round that mark in Perth. And then 189 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: then I said there was no point doing singles unless 190 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: we can get the people to buy and pump. People 191 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: don't really buy, and that's you cool. So I said 192 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: we need to get to the school so the kids. 193 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: The next minute there's Joe, he was our manager, was great, 194 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: dead he set up there. Every week, we'd be working 195 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 3: twice a week, full set up, full pa with the 196 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 3: crew and everything at the high schools. And then we're 197 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: handing out these photos of ourselves looking glamorous and the 198 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: po box number on it. The next minute they're all 199 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: writing saying I love Lance, I love Todd, whatever, and 200 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: so we got their details and we sus did the 201 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: merchandise form and I can remember we did the next single, 202 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: which was Haunting Me. That was we had Biggot Tom 203 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: and we said to the look, you know, we've got 204 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 3: a new single coming out. We had about two thousand 205 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: kids in the stand club and we said we'd love 206 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: to get back in the charts again and maybe get 207 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: a bit higher if you could order the song before it, 208 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: you know, pre order it. So then the single comes 209 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 3: out again no B side, so we stepped it up 210 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: and put a color photo on the bangl on and 211 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: there was thickers and then what we did was they 212 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: did they ordered it. So as soon as that record 213 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: we hit the record stores, it was sold out. So 214 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 3: we debuted first week in at number one. 215 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 5: Speaking of Haunting Me, I love how It features in 216 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 5: one of the most famous scenes in Australians sobal history. 217 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 5: It plays over Kylie Minogue's final episode of Neighbors. 218 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 3: Well there is a Kyrie Minogue story. 219 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, do you go down? 220 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: Well, we met Kylie about nineteen eighty four, late eighty FOURDS. 221 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: It's a little kid. You've got to remember the times. 222 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: There was no Internet, there was no social media, no texting, 223 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: no phones. It was just like someone to you on 224 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: your home phone if you're lucky, or you get a letter. 225 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: And we had no idea what was going on in England. 226 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: One day we get a phone call from Mushroom Records 227 00:10:55,480 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: and they said we had a group meeting there office 228 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: of desk and there's Amanda Pelman from Mushroom and she said, 229 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 3: he goes wet Toymie Minogue wants to record Haunting Me. 230 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 3: We go, I we Minogue, that little chick on Neighbors. 231 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: Because you've got to remember, we thought we were the 232 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 3: coolest of the cools. We had the look, we had 233 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 3: the sound, we had the money. We were like they 234 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: were vertically untouchable. And we said, well, Todd had the 235 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 3: initial decision to say no because he wrote it. And 236 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: he goes, now we go, yeah, we don't want her 237 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: recording out song that would be us back in the day, 238 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: the forty five singles. When they released those, they used 239 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: to have fifteen percent royalties off the sale of the 240 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: record and that was split between A side and the 241 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: B died and Coyleie released her debut singles through stock 242 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: Ache and Waterman and saw the predentials in that girl 243 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: and they did. She did the Locomotion and that only 244 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: went number one in seventeen countries. So, yeah, you're going 245 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: to make it. How much money is what do you do? 246 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 9: Well? 247 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: I mean the band, the band wouldn't have made anything 248 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 3: out of it, but for the guys that wrote the song, 249 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: Todd and Landstape pretty missed out on the shipload of 250 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: money and I. 251 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 6: Got You Gosky was a rock guy forever and then 252 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 6: signed Kylie. That was quite astounding at the time. Metopolo, 253 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 6: Oh yeah. 254 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 3: I had. I heard Michael Giddinsky in my laundry and stuff. 255 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 15: He flew over. 256 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 3: He saw we debut at number one and he's he's 257 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 3: he is pricked up with I'm coming over and the 258 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: answer the signers as well, but they went with Perfect 259 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 3: Strangers and went with us. 260 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 16: Yeah. 261 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 5: Wow, Well on that note, memories mate, Alan great memories. 262 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 5: It's been really good reminiscing with you this morning about 263 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 5: VKA pri. 264 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: Well, they're just the good stories I can tell. 265 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 12: You can't imagine. 266 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 7: Okay, my story is for another day. Alan, thank you 267 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 7: so much. Thanks all this. We would be singing a 268 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 7: minute work song six twelve. 269 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 14: Hundred people A menu at work began the road. 270 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: I don't think did the people party in the bands? 271 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: Was a way of like Cozy and Lisa's pub crawl. 272 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 7: Yes, back on the crawl this morning. Nothing like an 273 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 7: eight a m. 274 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 5: Pub crawl joining us from the frames it's marked on here. 275 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 7: Good morning, welcome, good morning, how are you? 276 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 17: Good news? 277 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 5: Thank you for being part of our reminisce about the 278 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 5: good old days. You wrote funny situation? Is there a 279 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 5: funny story we need to know behind that? 280 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 18: Oh? 281 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 15: God, I don't think so. 282 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 12: I was just just just thinking, then it's a long time, 283 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 12: and what was I think. 284 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 15: That's funny. 285 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 12: I think I think we were a lot better than 286 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 12: that in my mind. But anyway, it was. 287 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: It was a good time. 288 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 7: It was a good bit of pop. 289 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 6: Mark was that Ray Vine, the Perth first sex guy 290 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 6: on sexophone, the jazz player. 291 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's right, we got him in. I think was 292 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 12: that single must have been about nine one two. 293 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very good. 294 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 5: There was never a healthier time than the eighties for 295 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 5: the Perth pub scene. You know you could go Friday 296 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 5: night through till the Sunday session, different band, different great venue. 297 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 5: Where are some of the places that you guys played, Oh, 298 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 5: look all the big. 299 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 12: Ones and I think you know, we could go from 300 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 12: Wednesday through to Sunday, you know, like places like the 301 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 12: Generatorn and Morley, the Overflow, Raffles, Windsor Hotel, Charles Hotel 302 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 12: and also you know we used to head to the country. 303 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 12: All the bands used to head to the country normally 304 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 12: on a Wednesday night because they couldn't get the sort 305 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 12: of big bands up there on the weekend. So on 306 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 12: Wednesday nights you'd go to Bumbley or Calgoolie or Geraldton. 307 00:14:54,640 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys come up once. That was bizarre, Meriton. 308 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 6: We used to get a few first bands, but they 309 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 6: would be during the week because you guys were all 310 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 6: busy on the weekends. 311 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 7: As you say, exactly, Yeah, so it was. 312 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 12: It was such a vibrant time and probably never be repeated. 313 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 12: It was just the crowds of people that come out 314 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 12: to see live bands in Perth was unbelievable. 315 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 5: So you guys were able to tour a bit and 316 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 5: and work full time as a musician because you got, 317 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 5: you know, much wanted sponsorship support from an airline. 318 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 7: Was it TAA or Ancest Really it was. 319 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 12: We were sponsored by TIA and we were flown around 320 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 12: the country at one point, I mean it was it 321 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 12: was pretty muchy I think was sponsored by Pepsi as well. 322 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 7: Wow, that's huge. It's a good marketing going on them. 323 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of that. 324 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 12: I mean it was obviously their management at the time 325 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 12: getting that happening, and yeah, it was was crazy good stuff. 326 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, Mark, tell me mate. Clint Haarnold the Tarists. 327 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 6: Did he come from Vicapri or did he joined Vicapri later? 328 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 6: And how did that go down some of the rivals 329 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 6: it effected? 330 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 12: Well, no, no, the frames were broken up when when 331 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 12: Vikapri grabbed him, so he was no he wass an 332 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 12: original frames, all all the frames of original members and. 333 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah he vika Pri sort of. 334 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 12: Came along and sort of blew us out of the 335 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 12: water really and and then eventually after Damien left, they 336 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 12: took Clint and he became a VIKA president. 337 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, both got guitarist Damian Warden clint Anol good stuff. 338 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 15: That's it. 339 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 12: Yeah, and he was I mean he was in two 340 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,359 Speaker 12: big successful bands then. 341 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, very good. 342 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 5: I believe you auditioned for the Frames after seeing an 343 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 5: ad in the Sunday Times. 344 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 15: We did that. 345 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 12: That's how you got your gig, did Yeah, so the 346 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 12: three other guys have been in a band before besides 347 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 12: being DNA mean answered and ad in the Sunday Time 348 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 12: Times and turned up and then you plugged in and 349 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 12: got the job. 350 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 3: It was. 351 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 12: But in those days the Sunday Times was full of 352 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 12: sort of vocals they wanted. 353 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, being honest, Mark, A few of the people 354 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 6: were spoken to had some groupies. 355 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 7: What was it like in heyday? The memories a bit blurry, 356 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 7: I know. 357 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 12: I think there was some members of some bands that 358 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 12: seemed to have a lot. 359 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 7: Of a lot of grouping, right, okay, very good? Yeah, Diplomatic. 360 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 5: Who were some of the bands that some of the 361 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 5: other bands on the scene at the time that you 362 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 5: always enjoyed seeing. 363 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: Personally? 364 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 12: I think Loaded Die Stayed Warner. 365 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 3: I think of. 366 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 12: Prints were amazing boys. I mean the boys and living 367 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 12: bands that were before us really and Perfect Strangers were amazing, 368 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 12: just so many, so many great bands. Innocent Bystanders were 369 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 12: crazy good and at the time, yeah, original sort of. 370 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 3: Band and just and they had a young Mark. 371 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 12: Las Yeah yeah, look, look they were fabulous. And there 372 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 12: was just so many bands and very bands as well. 373 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 12: There was heavy metal type glam rock ones and the 374 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 12: icesh Harry and yeah, a lot of a lot of 375 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 12: those different types of bands. But but Purpose Rangers were amazing. 376 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 12: I love them, and a load of Dice and Fingerprints 377 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 12: were was sort of trail blazers, and yeah, I really 378 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 12: enjoyed them. 379 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 6: You mentioned I mean was just a kid with him, 380 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 6: was in Neednocent Bystanders, But Brett Caser, he was writing songs. 381 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 6: He was like, like like a chisel type of songwriter. 382 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 7: He was incredible. Some of the rock he was writing unreal, 383 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 7: it was. 384 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 12: And he was using local he was writing about Farborough 385 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 12: and that's what set him apart. But also just a 386 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 12: great singer and a great front man and a great idea. 387 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 12: But yeah, I love that the fact that he was 388 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 12: singing about local things that we could relate to. He 389 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 12: wasn't singing about Alabama, you know. 390 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, well I worked with Paul Kelly and his days 391 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 6: in Adelaide and then Melbourne. Of course, you know Greg 392 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 6: Greg mccains from Skyworks, so that sky Hooks year singing 393 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 6: about their particular towns. 394 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 12: Love it, Yeah, absolutely, And look, I think when the 395 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 12: frames first started as well, even the Perth bands weren't 396 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 12: really playing much Australian stuff, so we kind of felt 397 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 12: we were one of the first ones that were playing, 398 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 12: you know, playing Skyhooks and the sports and you know, 399 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 12: moving pictures and things like that. So yeah, it did 400 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 12: start to change a bit then and people started realizing, hey, 401 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 12: we're Australian. Brett Keizer in the supplystanders was certainly a 402 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 12: standout in Perth. 403 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 19: Good work. 404 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 5: We thank you for your service on that. There was, 405 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 5: of course a lot of greater original stuff coming out. 406 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 5: But did you feel any pressure to do the covers 407 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 5: as well? Did you get that, you know, people sort 408 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 5: of wanted to hear what they knew? 409 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 12: Oh, look absolutely, yeah, I mean that was a hard thing. 410 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 12: I mean we never set out to be a big 411 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 12: cover band in Perth, and we set out the sort 412 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 12: of take on the world and we build up the 413 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 12: money and we'd head off over over East and tour 414 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 12: and play to not big crowds at all. And then 415 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 12: and we'd come back and we'd be playing our new 416 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 12: original songs in the crowd we'd just be looking at 417 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 12: looking at us and go, you know, play the swingers. 418 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 12: That's right. Yeah, so it was tough in that respect. 419 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're testing the memories, morning mate. They have a 420 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 6: think about excuse me, in your prime playing those gigs 421 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 6: to big crowds. Was it mostly girls up the front 422 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 6: of the stage. We talked about this with Capri and 423 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 6: were they big dancing kind of crowds at your gigs? 424 00:20:55,480 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 12: Look, the first the first ten row would sort of 425 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 12: dance and sort of sort of walk towards. 426 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 18: The band a bit. 427 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 12: And and there was more girls at the front than 428 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 12: than than guys. But but but had more girls. I 429 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 12: think I think the frames were kind of, you know, 430 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 12: good looking enough to get a few girls, but but 431 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 12: ugly enough for the guys to kind of think, are 432 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 12: okay as well? 433 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 5: We were there dancing around our handbags. 434 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 18: That's the whole hand bag. 435 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, and put them on the stage next to the fall. 436 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 7: That was fun for you. God, the frames wrapped up 437 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 7: in nineteen eighty six. 438 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 5: But you've had a long history with producing new young 439 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 5: acts and so on in wa and tell us about 440 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 5: working with Kevin Bloody Wilson. 441 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 12: I still work with ke you do, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Look, 442 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 12: he's a he's a wonderful talent and a very smart guy. 443 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 12: And it's been Yeah, he's been a good run with keV. 444 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 12: And we've we've done lots of good stuff. 445 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 14: Yeah. 446 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 6: And that wonderful singer of yours, Dean Denton with his 447 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 6: musical family mate with Holly be so famous these days. 448 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 7: You must do your pretty proud because you're all good mates. 449 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 9: Yeah. 450 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 12: Well, well she's my god daughter you so there you 451 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 12: and and we are still more good mates. 452 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 14: Yeah. 453 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 12: And she's a wonderful girl. You know, work water dynamo. 454 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 12: You sit with there for five minutes ago, I need 455 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 12: a break only. 456 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 7: I just remember seeing on the stage, so we were 457 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 7: rocky And how good is this girl? 458 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 14: Unreal? 459 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 12: She's so good and she always has been. And yeah, 460 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 12: just such such a great energy and she works so hard. 461 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 12: You know. 462 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 7: Well, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Do 463 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 7: you ever? Do you ever still get together and have 464 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 7: a bit of a play. 465 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 12: Well, the frames have done reunions. In fact, we only 466 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 12: did one a year ago at the Choles Hotel. 467 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 9: So. 468 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 7: Sat stick. 469 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: It's still yeah, still little. The carpet is exactly never been. 470 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 7: But isn't that great. It feels like home, you know. 471 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 7: It feels like you're walking on the moon, trying to 472 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 7: walk quicksands. 473 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 12: I think I took my kids there last time and they. 474 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: Came back and go, oh my god, you know, yeah. 475 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 7: That's amazing. 476 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 6: The crowds go. When you guys get back together, that's great. 477 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 12: But they still do. And and they bring their kids, yeah, 478 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 12: you know who were between twenty and thirty, you know yeah, 479 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 12: and they say this is where mom and dad met, 480 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 12: you know, so, and this is what we used to experience. 481 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 12: So that's pretty amazing to look out of the crowd 482 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 12: and see half of them young. Then you realize who 483 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 12: they are, they're the children. 484 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's amazing. Well, it's been amazing to reminisce with 485 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 5: you this morning. 486 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 7: Mark. Yeah, I appreciate you so much for coming on 487 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 7: our pub for all with us. It's like a for us. 488 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 7: Thank you Mark, talking about right then bye bye f Yeah, 489 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 7: it's fun. 490 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 5: You go to the Charles, you will see where you 491 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 5: spell to drink in nineteen eighty six. 492 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 493 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 5: Hey, if you have memories to share with us, feel 494 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 5: free to text us on our text numbers zero four, 495 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 5: seventy six, ninety six, ninety six, ninety six. And if 496 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 5: you have any images, any photos from the time that 497 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 5: you want to share with us, sent us a Facebook 498 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 5: message or email us at breakfast at ninety six FM 499 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 5: dot com dot au. 500 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 7: We would love to see your pictures. 501 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: We would be seeing a minute word song said twelve 502 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: hundred people. 503 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 14: The men at work would be down the road. 504 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: But only to the people party. In the venuspaper bands was. 505 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 4: A wave like Coleazy and Lisa's pubcrawl. 506 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 6: We are on our pub crawl going around talking about 507 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 6: these incredible bands we had in Perth in the day, 508 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 6: mostly in the eighties, but there are seventies and nineties 509 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 6: as well. 510 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 7: When you think about it, and. 511 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 5: I don't think I was the lone ranger in saying 512 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 5: that my favorite was Perfect Strangers. 513 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 7: Perfect Strangers. 514 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 6: I remember being at the Herdies one night and seeing 515 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 6: that charismatic frontman Andy Clayton Smith doing. 516 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 7: Flips because he was an acrobat. I remember didn't saying 517 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 7: anything mom about where I was going. Of course you did, 518 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 7: don't anyone tell her. 519 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 5: But yeah, the first couple of times I went, I 520 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 5: was maybe just slightly not yet of age? 521 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 6: Close, funny that very very close. A good band and 522 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 6: a great live act. Now I'm going to the bar. 523 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 6: Do you want a summer wind dollar sixty nine? 524 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 14: What are you having? 525 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 4: Just a water. 526 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 5: Singer and guitarists with Perfect Strangers, bass player with Jimmy 527 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 5: and the Boys and the riffs. Michael Parks is with 528 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 5: us this morning. Hello, old home week. Yeah, it is 529 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 5: a little untwo you just informed me. 530 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 14: Then. 531 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 5: I had never made the connection between the song No 532 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 5: Fear of Flying and Erica Jong's book No Fear of Flying, 533 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 5: even though back in the day, I, like many read 534 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 5: the book. 535 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 20: Yeah, well, I think Andy Clayton Smith, the a lead 536 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 20: singer Perfect Strangers, had read the book and like the title. 537 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 20: I don't think it was specifically about the book per se. 538 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 7: Book had no sort of. 539 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 14: Nerves, but he liked the title. 540 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 20: So he started writing some lyrics about the fear of 541 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 20: flying and life in general, and I came up with 542 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 20: some yet a nice little melody to go with it. 543 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 14: Yeah, that's how it started. 544 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 5: Okay, I said, the video video video red? 545 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,239 Speaker 6: Was it the red parent was saying the list of 546 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 6: as a fan being in the cloud at a Sunday 547 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 6: session seeing Edie Clinton Smith doing those flips because he 548 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 6: was an acrobat, Right, what was it like being on 549 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 6: stage singinger? 550 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 14: Do do that? Just get out of the one stages? 551 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 14: That was basically Yeah. 552 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 20: When Barry and I first met Andy to audition him 553 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 20: for the for the band, he said, oh, yeah, by 554 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 20: the way, I can do backflips. 555 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 14: We went, yeah, what's that got to do with being 556 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 14: on stage and playing rock and roll? 557 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 20: And then he proceeded to do all these backflips in 558 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 20: his house very impressively. 559 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 5: That's pretty cool that somewhere. By the way, wasn't the 560 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 5: Red Parrot just the coolest club? 561 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 4: It was so good? 562 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 5: Now, what was it like part of this scene and 563 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 5: the you know at this time in the eighties when 564 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 5: you could go you go out Thursday night to Sunday 565 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 5: night and see someone different and a different. 566 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 14: Yeah, well that was our social network. You know, there's 567 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 14: no Internet. 568 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 20: When I arrived in Perth nineteen eighty, it was it 569 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 20: was just crazy. I mean the daily news, the newspaper 570 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 20: back then, or one of the newspapers back then, the 571 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 20: middle section I think on a Thursday had about four 572 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 20: or five pages and was just wall to wall. 573 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 7: Pub lot of gigs, nightclubs. 574 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 20: The Sunday session, yes, you know, I've never heard of 575 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 20: the Sunday session. 576 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 14: Oh was doing What the heck is that? 577 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 20: I said, from five point thirty to seven I think 578 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 20: it was, And you just go there and get blind. 579 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 5: Because there was going to be a cutoff time. You 580 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 5: had to drink as much as you could. What did 581 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 5: that make Sunday the HAIRYUS night of those? For yeah, 582 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 5: pretty much do a gig. 583 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 20: Yeah, because pretty much after the Sunday session everyone then 584 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 20: went to If there was possibly a nightclub, I think 585 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 20: it may have been a couple of pubs that stayed 586 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 20: open or had a later license. 587 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 14: It was crazy. 588 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 7: It was onto the underground. 589 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 6: They're getting later and later and being really time Monday 590 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 6: because you end up at fast eddies, people out. I 591 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 6: remember going to Sunday sessions, the great venues we had, 592 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 6: like the herd Is and seeing Dick and the Dames 593 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 6: or someone they do Rhythm of Life at the end 594 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 6: of the gig and you'd walk to your car or 595 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 6: we walked to the Stumble. 596 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 14: Yeah, the Cabbara. 597 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, did you have a favorite venue to performing. 598 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 16: Oh that's good. 599 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 7: Well, I loved going to the Shenton Park, the Windsor. 600 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 20: Yeah, later the Windsor Daily Planet. I think it was cool. Yeah, 601 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 20: it was, yes, super hotel. When I first got here 602 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 20: in nineteen eighty we used to do the Sunday session. 603 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 20: Well that was in the Riffs. Oh, yes, there, yeah, 604 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 20: and that was that was pretty cool back in the day. 605 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 6: The parks came with a lot of experience. You've been 606 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 6: with Lost s Ignatius Jones recently, you will, Yeah, Jimmy 607 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 6: and the Boys you came to Perth. Yeah, he had 608 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 6: a lot of experience there for you and you make 609 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 6: Barry Berrylyn Yeah. 610 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 14: Well that was the reason we came here. Barry. 611 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 20: We were managed by a guy called Michael Chugg who's 612 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 20: previnced in the entertainment sy in Australia, and he sent 613 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 20: Barry to Perth to check out the scene and just 614 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 20: to scope out different venues for an upcoming Jimmy and 615 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 20: the Boys gig. I've left the band by then, so 616 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 20: I was just biding my time back in Sydney. I 617 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 20: was a roadie for Sherbs, remember that. Yeah, for me, 618 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 20: I was a roadie for those guys for six months 619 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 20: hanging out. Yeah, Captain Vague, they called him. I shouldn't 620 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 20: say that, should I. He's a lovely guy, a lovely, 621 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 20: lovely man. But yeah, So Barry came out, he had 622 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 20: checked out the different gigs and came back to Sydney 623 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 20: and said to me, he said, look, I'm leaving Jimy 624 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 20: and the boys now because I've discovered in Perth you 625 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 20: can go there. The pub will pay you a retainer 626 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 20: to play at the hotel. Plus you can put a 627 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 20: door charge on and take the whole door. 628 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 7: The only place you could do that, wasn't it. 629 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 20: Well I think so that it might have been a 630 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 20: similar thing in Adelaide maybe, but it certainly wasn't like that. 631 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 20: In Sydney and Melbourne. You basically had to pay to play. 632 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 20: It was not great, you know, they paid no money really, yeah, 633 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 20: sixty dollars maybe to play the gig if you were 634 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 20: starting a band that was just starting off. Whereas in 635 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 20: Perth you could come here and yeah, just put it, 636 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 20: put on a gig and the public pay of fifty 637 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 20: or one hundred dollars to play there and put a 638 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 20: two dollars door charge on or. 639 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 5: A dollar they made their money from the drinks absolutely, yeah, yeah, 640 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 5: and you could take the whole door a few three 641 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 5: beers as well. 642 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 14: Yeah. 643 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 5: We spoke to Alan Simpson from Baker Prix yesterday and 644 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 5: he well this is it. He singled out Perfect Strangers 645 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 5: as their biggest rivals of the time. 646 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, but I thought you were very different. 647 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 14: Oh yeah, yeah, Well we tried to play. 648 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 20: We did a fair amount of original material and we 649 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 20: did also a lot of covers, a lot of those 650 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 20: big haircut songs Duranne, Juranne and Rythniques and all that 651 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 20: sort of stuff that was going. 652 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 14: Plus we did a lot of original stuff. 653 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 20: So we were we kind of thought of ourselves as 654 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 20: a semi original that right, we were, And then at 655 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 20: that time I think VIK weren't that original. 656 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 14: But they then they. 657 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 20: Started writing along of their own stuff and they had 658 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 20: great success with the good marketers too. 659 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 14: Oh yeah, very much so. 660 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 20: And they had some very good looking boys in the 661 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 20: bay did Alan was one of those. 662 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 14: It was the Emphasize was one of those. 663 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 7: And they really embraced the hair of the of the time. 664 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 14: Allan, you know, I don't man, Yeah great here. 665 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 20: Yeah on the keys and not forgetting Todd Johnson up front, tuntals. 666 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 6: And all that stuff. The thing, like I said, you 667 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 6: came with a lot of experience. You came into birth, 668 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 6: but you also ended up working in radio. We all 669 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 6: went on stage worked at the radio station called the Eagle. 670 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 14: Yes, I remember you. 671 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 20: Paul Redmond and myself would total in it very early 672 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 20: in the morning and you'd be just finishing the midnight 673 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 20: to dawn. I had very, very long hair and sort 674 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 20: of looking. 675 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 5: Very You also embraced the hair. 676 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 7: Do you remember me. I was in the newsroom and 677 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 7: I was nine, she was and I had a crush 678 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 7: on her. 679 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 14: I do. 680 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 7: Now you mentioned Andy. 681 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 5: Andy Clayton Smith so tragically passed away at just twenty six. Yeah, 682 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 5: he had cancer. He was an incredible frontman. People still, 683 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 5: you know, talk about Andy. It must have been a 684 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 5: very sad time too. 685 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 14: Oh yeah, well. 686 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 20: I'd left the band, you know before I found out 687 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 20: that he had non Hodgkin slimphoma. And he went through 688 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 20: came out, and he went through a lot of pain 689 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 20: and eventually he went into remission. The band kicked on again. 690 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 20: They went to Sydney with a new guitar player and 691 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 20: I was playing up at Gobbles nightclub. And yeah, the 692 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 20: night after which I put together with Barry Litton and 693 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 20: Paul Redmond and then Gary Dunn and a cast of thousands, 694 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 20: and they came back to Perth and I remember this vividly. 695 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 20: We were playing up at Gobbles or we were rehearsing 696 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 20: up there one afternoon and Andy came up to see 697 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 20: this and he looked fine, and he said, oh, guys, 698 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 20: can you help me out and do a benefit concert 699 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 20: for me and to raise some money? And we're going 700 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 20: what's going on? They said, the cancers back and he'd 701 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 20: been in remission for five or six years at that stage, 702 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 20: and we went, oh, gee, you. 703 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 14: Is that's bad? 704 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 20: I said, what's what's the prognosis and he said, look 705 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 20: probably two months really, and you kidding. 706 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 14: Baron to say yeah. We were shattered. 707 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 20: And Barry, who was the kind of leader of the band, 708 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 20: he organized, he was the organizer. He went into overdrive 709 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 20: and put together that concert at the Herdes, which had 710 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 20: virtually every band in Perth, including bands like the Jets, 711 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 20: A very heavy bad. We didn't really have much to 712 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 20: do with them at all. But as soon as we 713 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 20: told them that Andy was the situation, yet, we'll be there. Yeah, 714 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 20: brilliant And yeah, we put on the benefit concert for 715 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 20: Andy at that stage, but unfortunately he didn't make it. 716 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 7: He didn't make it for the benefit. 717 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 20: No, no, he passed away only just about two weeks 718 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 20: before the concert. 719 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 14: Waste. 720 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, somebody venues that just aren't there anymore that you 721 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 6: mentioned to the Jets playing media generator. The Morley Park Hotel, 722 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 6: not the new Port is, but it's something else now 723 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 6: in a freeo. Ye, the Shepton Park is a oldies facility. 724 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 18: Now. 725 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going full circle. I'm going to end up 726 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 5: at the engine part shen Park. They're all retirement village, 727 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 5: that's right. Yeah, well we used to play. 728 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 20: I played in a band called the Essentials at one 729 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 20: stage there with Billy Rodgers and Gary Maisel and a 730 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 20: few other people, and we used to play at the 731 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 20: one down around Yeah, and that's a retirement film. 732 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, And there's one place to where the Innooknborough 733 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 6: was as well. 734 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 14: At least I've got somewhere to go. 735 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, returned to where the scene of the crime. 736 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 7: We have to let you go. Michael. 737 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 5: It's been silist to reminisce with you this morning on 738 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 5: our pub crawl. 739 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 7: Thanks for coming in. 740 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 14: Thanks for having me. 741 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: We would be seeing a minute works six twelve hundred people. 742 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: The men at work began the road. 743 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 2: I don't need to the people party and the bands. 744 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 4: It was a way of Cleary and Lisa's Pub. 745 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 7: Crawl ninety six a FM. 746 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 6: Cleary and Lisa and Lisa have continued trek through the 747 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 6: We're doing the Perth pub Crawl, aren't we. And when 748 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 6: you throw in names like the Paddle, the Shens and 749 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 6: the Warrick, we speak of the padding to day House, 750 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 6: the Shendon Park Hotel and the Warrick Hotel. You're talking 751 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 6: about some great live music venues. And we're going this 752 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 6: time off stage into the other side of the bar, 753 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 6: or at least into the manager's office and the man 754 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 6: who had a lot of those those businesses. 755 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 7: Neil Randall joins as Neil welcome mate. 756 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 16: Thanks Clarzy, great to. 757 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 5: Be thanks for coming into reminiscent with us. Neil is 758 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 5: such it was such an active live scene at this 759 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 5: in this period during the eighties, when you were at 760 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 5: the thick of it owning these clubs, pubs. 761 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 16: Yeah, I look, it was. 762 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 21: I wished every dec it could be like the eighties. Yeah, Well, 763 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 21: he just used to have so much fun. Yeah, in 764 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 21: Osex rock and roll, the beers flowed and everyone just 765 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 21: had fun. There's plenty of money around. I mean that 766 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 21: era that decade, we won the America's Camp West Coast 767 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 21: Eagles came in and Clarzy, So if you won two premiershus. 768 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 16: That the rock and roll scene was incredible. 769 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 7: I used to pour over that gig. 770 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 5: Guy that had come out on it came out on 771 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 5: Wednesday afternoon or Thursday morning, I'd pour over it like 772 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 5: a gambler. 773 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 7: With the tab guy. You would map. 774 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 5: Out your Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, and Sunday night. 775 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 16: Absolutely, there was so much choice. 776 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 21: I remember in the day there was a raffles going 777 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 21: off the windsor Yes, the other fly was just starting 778 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 21: at sc Yeah, incredible, and we were lucky to have 779 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 21: such a great room at the Shens and only fear 780 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 21: at about four or five hundred. 781 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 16: But we used to stack them in there. 782 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we were part of it. We're in the 783 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 5: crowd that was usually of it. It was just the 784 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 5: right size crowd hub gig. 785 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 16: The acoustics there, yeah, sensation absolute and it just abounded. 786 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 16: It was a great place to work. 787 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, some of the bands that performed there. 788 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 5: The Gurus of course in excess, Pages and Docors cruel 789 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 5: see Paul Kelly off, the Indye, the Stems, the Triffords, 790 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 5: the jam Tarts. 791 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 7: We I mean, even back then in. 792 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 5: The eighties we had such a healthy scene of local music. 793 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 16: It was not a touring bands. 794 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 21: Yeah, as you said, the locals, you know, Dave Warner 795 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 21: and the Suburbs comes to mind. 796 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 6: Absolutely fantastic, the suburban boy himself. 797 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 16: Yes, exactly. 798 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 21: And I'll tell you just a little added to this, 799 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 21: my son ben where we lived at the Shens, my 800 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 21: wife and. 801 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 16: Our two boys at the stage. Yeah, we went down 802 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 16: there one sad Diava. 803 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 21: I can hear this tingering and there was ben On 804 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 21: in excess as drums. 805 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 7: Fo you lived at the Sheds you mean literally? Okay, 806 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,479 Speaker 7: escape work there. 807 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 14: For the world. 808 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 6: I remember when I was too young to get into 809 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 6: the Warrick, so my mate and I would sit on 810 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 6: our bikes on the roof of the Warwick shops and 811 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 6: watch the fights after on a Sunday session getting the Warrick. 812 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 6: It wasn't all fights. There was a lot going on 813 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 6: there and so great bands drawing huge crowds. 814 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 21: Thursday Nights was it was out of control and there 815 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 21: was about seven or eight hundred room. People drew him 816 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 21: and Thursday Nights Dandium used to play there. Yeah, well 817 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 21: we'd have seven hundred inside. At twelve o'clock was fourteen 818 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 21: hundred in the. 819 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 7: Streets fighting casis. 820 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 16: You're on the road watching. You could have come in 821 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 16: and give the bounce as a. 822 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 6: Hand skinny kids, but we're watching the people spilling out 823 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 6: on the beach road. 824 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 16: Amazing, great days. 825 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 5: What are some of the gigs that you really remember 826 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 5: some of the memorable ones? 827 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 21: Well, painters were huge, you know, they had a real 828 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 21: good act. You know, the fires were going and they 829 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 21: jump off the stage into the crowd in excess was sort. 830 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 16: Of just breaking out. 831 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 21: The hoodoos were fantastic, and the locals Friday and seventeen 832 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 21: Nights mentioned the Farilies one day they're own little following, 833 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 21: and it was just the memories were so incredible. And 834 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 21: we even had done my biggest problem. We had the 835 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 21: Rodney Rude. It was fantastic and Austin Pacious one not 836 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 21: Austin Sacious. His crowd was really disappointing, so I gave 837 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 21: him the money from the door and He said, no, no, now, 838 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 21: you guarantee me two thousand. I said, yeah, but you 839 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 21: started forty minutes. The crowd is still coming and you're finished. 840 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 21: Well I walked upstairs and Austin he's about six weeks left. 841 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 16: Yeah, they followed me upstairs. 842 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 14: He's gonna row me down. 843 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 3: The success. 844 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 6: We sorted it out, all right, yeah, yeah, some of 845 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 6: those good stories, some of those great stories. But hey, 846 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 6: tell us from a business point of view, who drank more? 847 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 6: People would come into pubs like the Pad and watch 848 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 6: the footy or sport, or people who would come and see. 849 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 16: Bands, bends for sure, you know. 850 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 14: And bourbon ground okay. 851 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 21: You know, even more so than in those days Eject 852 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 21: you know that used to fly not our, a far 853 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 21: bigger drinking ground, Saxpa. 854 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 14: He needed bouncers, that's right. Please. 855 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 5: Did you have to deal with backstage riders for the 856 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 5: talk about that? 857 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 21: It was amazing and I used to every time you 858 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 21: saw some of the agents, you saw, Now, this is 859 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 21: what they need. They need two fellows to sit on 860 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 21: the champagne with four blocks of eyes. 861 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 16: They're not run down. I settled down, boys, this is 862 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 16: what you're getting. Take it or leave it? 863 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 6: How about that thing where we used to see that 864 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 6: the nook and busters are big gigs out of a 865 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 6: nook and borrow. But some of the pubs you had, 866 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 6: you must have seen it where you would get a 867 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 6: band like a vig Bria, right, so you'd have all girls, 868 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 6: like four hundred girls down the front and all the 869 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 6: jealous boyfriends up the back. 870 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you must have seen that a bit. 871 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 16: Sorted because you did a tractor the vik. 872 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 14: Leading and Lance a Ram. 873 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 16: But we didn't really go for that. 874 00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 6: They sort of did, yes, yeah, yeah I did, and 875 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 6: you know Faddy Lumpkin. 876 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 21: There was some great beings, great local talent around those days. 877 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,479 Speaker 5: A lot of these places, the Shents, for one, were 878 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 5: very much in residential areas. 879 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 7: Did you have to deal with noise complaints? 880 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 16: That was just as bad as bad as the Riders. 881 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 16: It was horrendous. 882 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 21: We had to put out a lot of bush fires 883 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 21: there and in fact that's why after I left, I 884 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 21: went over to the Paddington and they actually closed the 885 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 21: pub down because the neighborhood just closed. 886 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 16: It was it was a shame. 887 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 21: But a lot of those good old rock and roll 888 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 21: pubs just went by the bye because you know, digital 889 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 21: music and all the local stuff now they have, and 890 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 21: they just made it impossible. 891 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 6: To run my posts. Had a really big blues fraternity. 892 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 6: We love the blues here in the West. Dave Hall 893 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 6: and Steve Tallis and John Mayer. 894 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 21: Well you had a lot of local blues music. Yeah, 895 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,240 Speaker 21: breat Towns and he had a band they did blues 896 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 21: John Marry. As you mentioned, that was a great scene 897 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 21: for that. 898 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 14: Yeah. 899 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 5: It was a time of course where it was hard 900 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 5: to get a look in as a Perth band, and 901 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 5: a lot of them just had to leave and go 902 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 5: to the Eastern States to advance their you know, their careers. 903 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 7: Did you did it break your heart sometimes when some 904 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 7: of them had to. 905 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 21: That is so true. That is amazing. Our local bands 906 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 21: are going to melbne geeks. But that's how popular it 907 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 21: was in those days. 908 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 7: Times of change. 909 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 21: Sure, but I'll tell you what one thing we still 910 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 21: do down to the Sambar used to have live music 911 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 21: three nights a week, so awesome. 912 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 16: So I've never really lost contact. 913 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 21: With live music because it's just the heart and soul 914 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 21: and the heartbeat of my blood. 915 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 14: Phones. 916 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 5: Anyway, do you feel a bit like a proud papa 917 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 5: sending them off to I. 918 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 16: Said you're always welcome back. Sorry we're going in for 919 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 16: six months. But they learned as well. 920 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 14: Yes, they went and found a. 921 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 21: New scene, you know, educated themselves more and came back better. 922 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 14: Man. 923 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,919 Speaker 6: Well, they hadn't learned the crap because, let's be honest, 924 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 6: Ossie pub fans over the years, the whole Lossie pub 925 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 6: rock thing, it was a tough ground and grounding for them, 926 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 6: and if they were crack they got booed off stage 927 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 6: or stuff. An angels that got so good, that's the dry. 928 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 21: They really learned their craft and to have one degree 929 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 21: where they became a worldwide Yes. 930 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 5: We were laughing before about the irony of the senses. 931 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 5: I may still end up there where I started because 932 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 5: it's a retirement revolution. Now why do you think there's 933 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 5: not many live venues around Perth anymore? 934 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 7: What what happened? What changed it? 935 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 21: Look, it's just it's hard to put your finger on 936 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 21: the policy. Even in the two thousand at the Paddington 937 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 21: had a big shorts Jeky Monkeys Jerky Monkeys played. 938 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 16: There for six years. 939 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,280 Speaker 21: Yeah I said not and were mighty turn into crowd 940 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 21: until about two thousand and eight. Now, I don't know 941 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 21: if the GFC affected. Things like that just fell away 942 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 21: so quickly. And you know the modern music. 943 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 5: Situation now, the way it's to cut out that middle man, 944 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 5: you know where you pay. 945 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 7: Your your juice. 946 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 21: I want to survive like Lezzie, so sorry your eye 947 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 21: your magic. 948 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 6: Some but you know, like you think about how diverse 949 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 6: it got. But there's also a lot of choice for 950 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 6: people now, so that seemed to affect it as well. 951 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 6: So many choices for people to do with their entertainment time. 952 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 6: And would you change the world as well? 953 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,720 Speaker 21: You get people like Boober and Swift and there there 954 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 21: one people bands, Yeah, got so much a coming around them. Yes, 955 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 21: it's just yeah, it's quite hearted, complete. 956 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 6: With really yeah, and so many options online as well. 957 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 6: The people are to get into music. Yeah, mate, this 958 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 6: is unreal to catch up. 959 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 16: Now just with my voice. Sorry about this. I do 960 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 16: blame the. 961 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 7: Talking over the yeah, drinking gold. 962 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 21: There and the cigarettes and the the passive smoke in 963 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 21: the air at the time. 964 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 7: It certainly sounds pretty right. I think you're a method actor. 965 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 14: Randomly. Yeah, that's so good to me. 966 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 7: Oh gosh, I missed those times. 967 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 15: We all do. 968 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 7: Thank you, Neil pleasure, absolute pleasure. I miss it more 969 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,280 Speaker 7: than you can bloody goals for super. 970 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 16: Fancy Your God seventy three grand. 971 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 13: From Thanks Mate, More Crazy More Lisa More podcast. 972 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 4: Soon we would be singing a minute. 973 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: Website said five hundred people they met at Working Again 974 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: the Road. 975 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 2: I did the people, the bands. 976 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 4: It was a way of like and Lisa's. 977 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 5: Club draw This morning, I guess the singer of Ice 978 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 5: Tiger Dave Crosby, Good. 979 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 14: Morning, Good morning guys. 980 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 4: How are we good? 981 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 14: Well? 982 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 5: The band had an interesting blend of musicians, Dave, you 983 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 5: had a rock metal background, you did? Graham and Steve 984 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,479 Speaker 5: had been in one of the city's more popular top 985 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 5: forty cover bands. Never the twain were meant to meet, 986 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 5: and yet you know, you found How did you find 987 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 5: each other and. 988 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 7: Go well, actually this is really going to work well, 989 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 7: but that's really quite a long story. 990 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 17: We got together by accident and possibly people that we knew. 991 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 17: And I went to see Flash Harry that who was 992 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 17: working with and I thought, oh, yeah, this. 993 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 14: Guy is dangerous, you know. 994 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 17: And he heard that my band True Colors was breaking up. Yeah, 995 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 17: so he asked me if I'd like to come down 996 00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 17: and try out for the job. And once we'd got 997 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 17: the rehearsal over, and done with, and we started work. 998 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 17: Graham and I we went to vic Park for a 999 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 17: ride to try and find another venue that was this 1000 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,760 Speaker 17: side of the river. Yeah, and once we scored the venue, 1001 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 17: we came out, sat in his van and we started 1002 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 17: singing a song, an old Ronnie Dio song called Rainbow Eyes, 1003 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 17: and he harmonized all the way. 1004 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 14: Through it absolutely perfectly. 1005 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,760 Speaker 17: I sang the main pup, he did the high harmony, 1006 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 17: and it just sounded amazing, you know. And then he 1007 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 17: just sort of folded his arms and he said, do 1008 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 17: you remember an annoying little kid that came up to 1009 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 17: you in the mid seventies and you gave him a 1010 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 17: lift home? And I looked at him and I said, 1011 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,240 Speaker 17: you're not him. Nobody else could have known that story. 1012 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's amazing. 1013 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 14: It is unreal. 1014 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 17: But yeah, we got really close for for many years, 1015 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 17: and we wrote some pretty good tunes together. Also, Don 1016 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 17: Benson was a really good part of the songwriting within 1017 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 17: the band. 1018 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, Greenie was always my perth. Steve Vai or someone 1019 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 6: I was only such a great guitarist and standing down 1020 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 6: on the night that the album was launched in ninety one, 1021 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 6: right in front of him, down there that was some 1022 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 6: pretty special and the fans came out, didn't I that's right, yea. 1023 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 19: He is an amazing guitarist. He always has been. 1024 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 17: I was privileged to work with him, to be honest, 1025 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 17: and we did have a good partnership. 1026 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 15: You know. 1027 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 14: It was great until I got a little bored of 1028 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 14: Perth and I just wanted to go. 1029 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1030 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,439 Speaker 7: So it was like ninety two, Yes, that was ninety two. 1031 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 17: My parents were going back to England for one of 1032 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:55,879 Speaker 17: their every two year visits and I said I might 1033 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 17: just come with you for a few months just to see. 1034 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 17: I did, and I got work straight away, and I 1035 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 17: was recognized straight away. 1036 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 19: You travel half a planet and somebody recognized. 1037 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 14: Oh yeah really. 1038 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 17: But I started working there with the duo, and I 1039 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 17: also started recording with a French guy called Sylvaan Governeur, 1040 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 17: and he was quite a talented boy. But eventually I 1041 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 17: just sort of run out of money and the boys 1042 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 17: rang back and said, look there some gigs if you 1043 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 17: want to come back, Okay, So I. 1044 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 7: Came back, came. 1045 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 5: We know you played at the Charles. A lot of 1046 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 5: good memories from the Charles. What are some of the 1047 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 5: other pubs that you played at? Back in the day, 1048 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 5: the Herdsman. Yeah, raffles, of course, the raffles. Yes, what 1049 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 5: was the old be called stage door? Right, and of 1050 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 5: course some country gigs. Your first show was in Management, 1051 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 5: wasn't it. 1052 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 7: Do you remember a New Year's Eve? 1053 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 11: Mad? 1054 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 14: Yeah? What do you got? 1055 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,800 Speaker 17: Well, I just didn't expect to have as many people 1056 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,439 Speaker 17: as we did on our first opening night. 1057 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 14: But they must have built it really well for us. 1058 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 17: Like I said, we've got about five hundred people in 1059 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 17: a place that only holds about six. And then they 1060 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 17: as soon as they heard us, they were ringing their friends. 1061 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:32,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, they probably a start for you know, life, so yeah. 1062 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 17: So they would have gone to a phone phone real yeah, 1063 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,399 Speaker 17: and they were they were lining up waiting to ring 1064 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 17: their mates to get on down. 1065 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 14: You know. 1066 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's amazing, right. 1067 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 6: They have a common theme that over the last week 1068 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 6: we've done this and we're going to continue doing this. 1069 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 6: And you know, looking back, especially in the eighties and 1070 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 6: early nineties and the Perth pub scene, is those incredible 1071 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 6: venues were all sort of warning them a bit, but 1072 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 6: they were they were massive beer barnes, weren't they really 1073 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 6: they were. 1074 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 19: But they were very dangerous too, Dean, I mean the 1075 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 19: amount of. 1076 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:01,919 Speaker 14: Death. 1077 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 17: So I suppose on the road that was caused by 1078 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 17: a drink driving because alcohol was a lot. 1079 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 14: More potent in those days. 1080 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 17: Yeah, I remember just a normal can of beer was 1081 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 17: eight percent back then and now it's dropped to. 1082 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 19: What five or something around a lot of Yeah. 1083 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 17: Fortunately during Tiger I never drank, and whenever we got 1084 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 17: a drink rider, I thought, oh, well, do you want 1085 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 17: to order me something? Get me a bottle of champagne? 1086 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 14: That okay? 1087 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 19: So I did come on stage in a nice bucket 1088 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 19: and everything. I thought, oh right, a right live the Highlft. 1089 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 5: Like Ronnie James, your first perst show was at the Raffles, 1090 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 5: and at that time there were a lot of cover 1091 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,760 Speaker 5: bands doing a lot of you know, mainstream top forty 1092 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 5: style stuff, and then you came out with that much 1093 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 5: more rockier show. 1094 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 7: Were people like oh at last? 1095 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:03,839 Speaker 17: Well, I think it was. It just came naturally as 1096 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 17: a progression for me. I was in heavy metal bands 1097 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 17: before that, and then the progression to go to glam 1098 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 17: rock wasn't really that hard, except for putting on those 1099 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 17: silly outits, but it wasn't that hard to actually sing 1100 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 17: the songs and get to know them. 1101 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 14: And feel good with them and that, you know. 1102 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,320 Speaker 17: I mean, we had some great bands to pick from, 1103 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 17: White Snake, bon Jovi, Motley Crue, all those sort of 1104 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 17: bands that were around Poison and the hair bands. But 1105 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 17: nonetheless we made the transition. I think it was harder 1106 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 17: maybe for Don because he had never played in a 1107 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 17: hard rock bambo. 1108 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 7: But as soon as he started. 1109 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,879 Speaker 17: Listening to the the bon Jovi album Slippery went, he went, 1110 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 17: this is my favorite stuff everything. 1111 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 14: Yeah, he was up for it. Yeah, so it worked 1112 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 14: out great. 1113 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 6: What were the pants of choice for you? Were you 1114 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,879 Speaker 6: leather or spandex? What did you go there? 1115 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 7: The leather jeans? Glamor not? Very rock and roll. Quite 1116 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 7: a few of the headbands are wearing it true. 1117 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 14: Would you believe I. 1118 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 19: Was asked to do an advert wearing Spandex? 1119 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 5: Pass you are Icetiger was very well known for its 1120 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 5: highly visual shows, but you also had a sound engineer, 1121 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 5: Ben glam Ben Glasser, and that was very important to 1122 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 5: you for. 1123 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 7: The quality of the quality of the live sound. 1124 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 14: And he was. 1125 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 17: Tuned into what we needed for effects because those sort 1126 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 17: of bands, they really required big effects. This thing called 1127 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 17: an AMS spatializer, which just makes a band so sound 1128 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 17: so open, yeah, but still loud and big. He knew 1129 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 17: how to get that out of other equipment. That very sound, 1130 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,760 Speaker 17: and so we thought we're. 1131 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,240 Speaker 6: On the rug stadium rock sound exactly exactly? 1132 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 7: What was it the wah wah pedal or something that's. 1133 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 14: For the guitar. 1134 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 6: Going one stomping pedals all night? How about going on 1135 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 6: Tellymote National TV hates Saturday. That must have been a 1136 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 6: really good experience country. 1137 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, massive show. It was nerve wracking? Was it for me? 1138 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 7: Were you live with that long? Yeah? 1139 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,359 Speaker 17: It's the only thing I sort of objected to was 1140 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 17: it was a grease show? 1141 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 22: Oh no, really a hard rock yeah, fifties but there 1142 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 22: cast it's still fit heavier version of hopeless. 1143 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 7: Yeah. Actually your vocal you could do the falsetto and 1144 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:55,359 Speaker 7: something that's good. 1145 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 5: Now you are a teacher these days and you are 1146 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 5: loving it, okay. Is it is it as easy to 1147 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 5: command a classroom full of kids as a pub audience? 1148 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 14: No, a million years. 1149 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 17: With a pub audience, you've got the luxury of knowing 1150 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 17: that they're under the influence, so you know, yeah, so 1151 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 17: you can get them in the palm of your hands. 1152 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 5: Pretty you're hoping to there. 1153 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 17: But children know, there's a totally different book because every 1154 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 17: single child is totally different, which I love. But no, 1155 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 17: to be able to command their attention is impossible. 1156 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 14: But if they respect you, yep, then you got their attention. 1157 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, see teaching music, You've got the same rock 1158 00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,879 Speaker 6: here as the last time I saw you. How about 1159 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 6: the kids when you walk into the class for the 1160 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,240 Speaker 6: first time, do they go, oh, he looks like a rockstar? 1161 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 19: They sometimes do. Some already know. 1162 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 17: Because I did one of those things for TV where 1163 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 17: they interviewed me and a lot of people saw me 1164 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 17: on that. Yes, but no, they respect me. But they 1165 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 17: know that I've got boundaries too. If they start to 1166 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 17: get annoying, they'll see the you know. 1167 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 14: The toughs. 1168 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1169 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 17: Yeah, they know not to reach that point. Once they've 1170 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 17: done it once, it's twice. 1171 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:34,919 Speaker 19: Yeah. 1172 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 17: Yeah, they're pretty good. Most of the kids are fantastic, 1173 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 17: you know, they really are. And I love working with them. 1174 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 17: I love seeing the lights go on in their eyes 1175 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 17: when when you teach them something, they go, this is cool. 1176 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 14: This sound is really cool. How do you get it? 1177 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 17: And I'll just show them and they get it, and 1178 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 17: then all of a sudden, there's this look in their eyms. 1179 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 17: You've never seen it. 1180 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 15: Love. 1181 00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 14: Yeah, that is why I go. 1182 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 5: And I guess some parent teachern you'd be in demand 1183 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 5: because that all their parents used to go. 1184 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 7: The Charles will be coming to an autograph. We have 1185 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 7: had a few. 1186 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 6: We must also identify talent, incredible talent in some of 1187 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 6: those kids as well. 1188 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 14: Yes. 1189 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 17: Absolutely. We recently just had two Russian girls and they'd 1190 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 17: only just come in from Russia and they're absolutely brilliant musicians, right, 1191 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 17: and of course you can imagine that discipline that happens 1192 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 17: in that area. 1193 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 14: But they came in and they brought a lot to 1194 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 14: the table. 1195 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 17: Yeah, but unfortunately for six months that's but had a 1196 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 17: little time that we had together. It was great fun 1197 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 17: and they helped to teach the kids as well. 1198 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 19: Yeah. 1199 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's very contagious in a room like that, 1200 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 5: I guess. And you're still playing in gigs. 1201 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 17: Not meaning maybe one or two per year. Ye, not 1202 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 17: a great deal because I mean I do gigs with 1203 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 17: the kids. 1204 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know. 1205 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 19: And there's fulfilling most of my life. 1206 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 7: You're pretty much Jack Black from the movie Thinking School. 1207 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 17: Absolutely love it absolutely or mister Holland, Yes, did that 1208 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 17: this week? 1209 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 7: What a great intersational movie. 1210 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 5: Well, Dave, it's been lovely to reminisce with you about 1211 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 5: the Ice Tiger Days as part of our Perth pub crawl. 1212 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 14: Thank you. 1213 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 7: It feels like yesterday. It does feel like yesterday. 1214 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 14: You look like yesterday. Yeah you did. 1215 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 7: It's longer than yours. 1216 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 17: Can I just show you a little hello for all 1217 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 17: of the kids at Belga High School and all of 1218 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,919 Speaker 17: the teachers supported me over the way. 1219 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 14: Yeah, thank you. 1220 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 5: We've heard we heard good things about your kids in 1221 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 5: the we're chatting before. 1222 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 7: Very passionate in both ways. It's good interesting. 1223 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 14: Thank you, d Thanks for listening. 1224 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 1: We would be seeing a man at work side twelve 1225 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 1: hundred people. A menu at worked to me down the road. 1226 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 2: I don't need did the people and the bands. 1227 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 4: It was a way of cozy and Lisas to the pub. 1228 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 7: Draw, we are thrilled. 1229 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 5: Two bits to welcome to our Healthy and Days pub 1230 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 5: crawl from the Stams. 1231 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 7: Dom Marianni, good morning. 1232 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 3: Mate, mine guys. 1233 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 5: So the Stams talk about launching with a vengeance. Your 1234 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 5: first live show was at the Old Civic Theater in 1235 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 5: support of the Saints and the Triffans. 1236 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 7: Wow, what a lineup. 1237 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's a long time ago. But yeah, we were 1238 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 11: very fortunate to score that gig through a mutual friend 1239 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 11: actually who was putting that gig together. And I'd had 1240 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,200 Speaker 11: another band, I guess six months previous to that that 1241 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 11: had split and then started to form a new one, 1242 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 11: and our first gig happened to be that one, which 1243 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 11: was fantastic for us, playing with such a good lineup. 1244 01:00:58,960 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 7: It's an incredible line up. 1245 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 6: But who are the bands that you loved, Because you know, 1246 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 6: I said to Less earlier, I said, I love some 1247 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 6: very cool sixties inspired garage guitar sounds. 1248 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 7: Who are you listening to? 1249 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 11: Yeah, look, I guess the g I really connected with 1250 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 11: back in I guess when I was learning guitar it 1251 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 11: was Cream's clear Water Revival. That was the band that 1252 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 11: really got me. But look, the Beatles, obviously, the Beg's 1253 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 11: early begs, you know, the Stones, the Easy Beats, all 1254 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 11: the kind of classics sixties bands, and then into the seventies, 1255 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 11: I guess there was bands like t Rex and you 1256 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 11: know some of the heavier ones that were around at 1257 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 11: the time that led Zeppelin and things like that. 1258 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 5: At this time in the eighties, the Perth pub band 1259 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 5: scene was awesome and a name I haven't heard of 1260 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 5: thought for a long time. 1261 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 7: The wiz Bar. 1262 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 5: I'd forgotten how often I used to go there. But 1263 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 5: you guys had a Saturday residency at the whiz Bar. 1264 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 7: We did. 1265 01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1266 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 11: It was a really cool venue, actually the basement venue 1267 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 11: there on Hay Street. And once we got that sort 1268 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 11: of debut gig out the way, we played a couple 1269 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 11: of other shows I think the Subiaco Hotel, and then 1270 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 11: the Whiz Bar was something that was firing, you know, 1271 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 11: back in the day, and we. 1272 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 3: Loved playing there. 1273 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 11: It was that's where I guess we started to get 1274 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 11: our following. 1275 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 5: You played the Old Melbourne a bit, so this is 1276 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 5: really talking my language. Do you remember mccano's bar up 1277 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 5: above the Old Melbourne? 1278 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 3: I do, Yes, What a great. 1279 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 5: Venue that was too, upstairs downstairs all the great places. 1280 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 6: Will Melbourne had ended up with the Beat Room as well, 1281 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 6: didn't It was a sweet, sweet room of us. Have 1282 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 6: played a few sweating rooms, played many times at the 1283 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 6: Newport down in Frio as well. 1284 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 11: Done every years, not during I guess what when when 1285 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 11: we were playing back in the sort of mid to 1286 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 11: late eighties. 1287 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:51,479 Speaker 12: I recall that we did. 1288 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 11: Have a gig lined up there at the time I 1289 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 11: got canceled, but when we came back in so early 1290 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 11: two thousands, we played there a bit. 1291 01:02:58,400 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 14: Yeah. 1292 01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 7: Absolutely, Yeah. 1293 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 6: Richard Lane who ended up going to the Chevelle's and 1294 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 6: after you came back from Sydney we lost him four 1295 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,960 Speaker 6: years ago. But that original lineup, that must have been 1296 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 6: very exciting for you boys, especially when the album came out. 1297 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it was a fantastic time. 1298 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 15: You know. 1299 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,760 Speaker 11: We kind of started off with not really many you know, 1300 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 11: we didn't think we were going to get that big, 1301 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 11: but things just kept sort of rolling on and we 1302 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 11: took a punt and went over reached when we released 1303 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 11: our first single and people sent to like us over there. 1304 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 11: We came well, no one really wanted to know us 1305 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 11: before that, but when we came back from that tour, 1306 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 11: we were kind of local heros I suppose, yeah, and 1307 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 11: it all started to happen from there. 1308 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 5: Well, you were one of the more successful acts, having 1309 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 5: played with some big name bands and gone on international tours. 1310 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 7: Who have been your favorite bands to play with? 1311 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 11: One specific festival really comes to mind, which was in 1312 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 11: two thousand and four. We went to New York and 1313 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 11: played this festival was set up by Little Stephen, the 1314 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 11: guy he plays with Bruce Spring. 1315 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1316 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 14: Threat. 1317 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 11: He had this incredible lineup of bands and we were 1318 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 11: asked to play that festival and it was headlined by 1319 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 11: The Strokes, who were a more contemporary band I guess 1320 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 11: at the time, and you had people like Nancy Sinatra 1321 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 11: of all people playing Bo Diddley and some you know 1322 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 11: bands from back in the sixties of obscure bands that 1323 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 11: have sort of reformed, like the Electric Prunes and the 1324 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 11: Pretty Things and people like that. But you know, they 1325 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 11: had Iggan, the Stooges and New York Dolls and all 1326 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 11: these are making groups. So that was sort of a 1327 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 11: gig that you know, you could never dream of sort 1328 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 11: of being a part of. But yeah, that was one 1329 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 11: of the that was one of the best gigs that 1330 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 11: I'd say that I'd ever played. 1331 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 6: Riggy pop any shirt off that is a great clinic, 1332 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 6: punked up line of I love it and Nancy. There's 1333 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 6: been a place in the world, particularly in Europe, where 1334 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,160 Speaker 6: you were really surprised to have what the fandom for 1335 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,600 Speaker 6: the band was like, Yeah. 1336 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 11: Look, I started touring Europe sort of started with a festival, 1337 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 11: but in Denmark back in the mid nineties, I guess 1338 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 11: from there, so of explored the rest of Europe and 1339 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 11: the Stems have become quite popular in places a lot 1340 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 11: of Spain, Italy and France. So we've we've been playing 1341 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 11: that sort of regularly. 1342 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 3: I suppose. 1343 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 11: When I say regularly, we haven't been there since just 1344 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,480 Speaker 11: before the pandemic, but prior to that, you know, every 1345 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 11: couple of years I go back with some kind of incarnation. 1346 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 11: But the Stems definitely popular there, which is which has 1347 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 11: been great for us because it's kept the band sort 1348 01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,080 Speaker 11: of going and you know, we love playing there and 1349 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 11: you know they love us. So yeah, it's a it's 1350 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 11: a good thing to go into too and play other countries. 1351 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 14: Brilliant. 1352 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 5: The nineties were kind of quiet though, I mean, you 1353 01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 5: were so big in the eighties and then sort of 1354 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 5: went quite through the nineties and came back in the 1355 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,040 Speaker 5: early two thousands. 1356 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1357 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 11: Well, we split up in the late eighties and during 1358 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 11: the nineties I had another group called DM three, which 1359 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 11: that kind of broke me into Europe, and that kind 1360 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 11: of I released a couple of records that got released 1361 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 11: over there. So I got asked the tour and I thought, well, 1362 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 11: we'll see how it goes. And then found out that 1363 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 11: you know, there was an audience, and yeah, I thought, well, yeah, 1364 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 11: this is a great place to come back to have 1365 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,480 Speaker 11: a bit of a holiday as well as play some shows. 1366 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, I kept I kept doing it. 1367 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,880 Speaker 6: And don that's some love stuff with Darren Maatha that 1368 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 6: was a mighty fine term testament to your songwriting. 1369 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 7: And you're performing. 1370 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 6: But this it feels like we've gone full circle because 1371 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,240 Speaker 6: we think about the band and I think about growing 1372 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,919 Speaker 6: up listening to Steve Gordon on this radio station ninety 1373 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,320 Speaker 6: six a m. This aussy show playing you guys and 1374 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 6: talking to you guys on the regular and all the 1375 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 6: Perth and Australian bands on a regular basis. 1376 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 11: Yes, Steve, Yeah, he's a legend, isn't And yeah, and 1377 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 11: occasionally I sort of hear from him, Yeah, esg with 1378 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 11: an email here and there. 1379 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,840 Speaker 7: He's a good man, he loves his music. 1380 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,640 Speaker 5: Well, here's good news. The Stems are playing at Frio 1381 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,680 Speaker 5: Social and September the sixth. Tickets are through mosh tics. 1382 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 5: The show is to celebrate the band's fortieth anniversary. 1383 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 7: What can you tell us about that show. 1384 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 11: Tom, Well, yeah, forty years. It seems like a long time, 1385 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 11: doesn't it. Yeah, you know, it's we're looking forward to it. 1386 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,400 Speaker 11: I guess it's sort of coincided because you know, we 1387 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,920 Speaker 11: were sort of waiting for the pandemic to end at 1388 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 11: one point, and then it was all the case of 1389 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:54,840 Speaker 11: everybody being available. And this year, you know, twenty twenty four, 1390 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 11: I guess wind up with the fortieth year when we 1391 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 11: when we formed. So we thought, well, we'll grab that 1392 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:03,480 Speaker 11: idea and. 1393 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 6: Go with it, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, mate, proof 1394 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 6: that you're never too old to be a fan. I've 1395 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 6: just moved down recently to South Free to live, and 1396 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 6: we were getting fishing fish and chips over summer at 1397 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 6: Sea Lanes, and I turned to my wife, I said, 1398 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 6: I think all theer number fifty eight is don marry maman, 1399 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 6: and she goes it was it was a fairteat It. 1400 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 7: Was you right, because it looked like you she's going. 1401 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:27,680 Speaker 11: Living chef. 1402 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 7: I reckon, you stop faving for fifty eight fish and chip. 1403 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 6: Well he was number fifty eight and I was fifty 1404 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 6: eight years of age. 1405 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:36,800 Speaker 7: So you never too old to be a. 1406 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:37,760 Speaker 14: Fan of the music. 1407 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 3: Lane. 1408 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:47,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, dom this I believe new music to coincide with 1409 01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 5: that Freo social show as well. 1410 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,800 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, I'm glad you asked the question. 1411 01:08:55,479 --> 01:09:00,559 Speaker 11: We've actually recorded a new single which I think it's 1412 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 11: turned out really, really great because I just floated the 1413 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,200 Speaker 11: idea of the guys. I said, hey, you know, we 1414 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 11: should do something new, and they were all into it. 1415 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 11: And I had this song sitting there and I thought, well, 1416 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 11: let's try this one, and it happened pretty quickly and 1417 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,679 Speaker 11: it's come out really great. So that's coming out hopefully 1418 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,240 Speaker 11: it's been pressed right now and be ready for the tour. 1419 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 11: And we have a live album which was recorded back 1420 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 11: in twenty seventeen in Adelaide, And that sort of happened fortuitously. 1421 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 3: I guess was a guy. 1422 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 11: In a bat and a support band that had been 1423 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,760 Speaker 11: recording his own band for that show, and then said 1424 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 11: that our band had been recorded as well. I came 1425 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 11: out and sent me an email and said, hey, I've 1426 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 11: got a recording of you guys from that show. 1427 01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 3: Would you like it? 1428 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 11: I said, yeah, yeah, send it over, but I hadn't 1429 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 11: listened to it basically, and sitting there for a while, 1430 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,080 Speaker 11: and I said, look, there's some live stuff that we've got. 1431 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 3: Let's have a listen to it. 1432 01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,000 Speaker 11: If it's any good. We should maybe put it onto 1433 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:03,599 Speaker 11: a final and release it and we did that as well, 1434 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 11: so we mix that up and that's going to be 1435 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 11: ready for the tour. 1436 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 12: So we've got some new stuff. 1437 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's any good. 1438 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,800 Speaker 5: I think forty years is a testament too, if it's 1439 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:17,719 Speaker 5: any good. Dom The Prio social show is September sixth. 1440 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,160 Speaker 5: You want to get onto mosh tics pretty quickly to 1441 01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 5: get tickets for that. It's been fantastic to reminisce with 1442 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 5: you this morning. 1443 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 7: Good to catch up man. Thanks guys, thank you. Well 1444 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,479 Speaker 7: so you've down to Sea Lanes quick brings around the 1445 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 7: next time, thank you. 1446 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,679 Speaker 1: We would be seeing a minute works said twelve hundred 1447 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,320 Speaker 1: people the men at work to begin the road. 1448 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,800 Speaker 2: I don't need did the people party and the bands? 1449 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,839 Speaker 4: It was away Cozy and Lisa's to the pub. 1450 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 5: Draw from hook On and from the night after our 1451 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 5: guest This morning is Gary done? 1452 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 9: Hello Gary? 1453 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:49,719 Speaker 3: Hi Lisa? 1454 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 10: How are you going? 1455 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:51,559 Speaker 7: What pubs they were? 1456 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:51,920 Speaker 14: Gary? 1457 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,200 Speaker 6: So many famous names and the childs are still there. 1458 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,280 Speaker 6: But the raffles, the overflows. 1459 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were at the Wings. 1460 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,200 Speaker 10: We were at the Windsor Hotel on a Friday. I 1461 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 10: undred people packed and there was a three hundred outside, 1462 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,680 Speaker 10: so we had to move to the Charles Hotel. Just 1463 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 10: think you so we get a thousand people in there 1464 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:09,680 Speaker 10: or twelve hundred people, so. 1465 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:10,920 Speaker 7: Going to need a bigger pub. 1466 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:11,960 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1467 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 7: Do you have a favorite of the pubs that you 1468 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:15,680 Speaker 7: performed at. 1469 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 10: I think the Raffles on Saturday Night. Steve Les, she 1470 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 10: was the lead singer of the band who wrote that song, 1471 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 10: did a fire breathing act and yeah, we burned the 1472 01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 10: roofs down in the fire station. 1473 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 6: Now the Raffles, Steve, you're doing the fire and you 1474 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 6: had Andy Clinton Smith with the strangers who he slips. 1475 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 10: It was all yeah, correct, It was just an amazing scene. 1476 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:50,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, well the band saved. Why did he go from 1477 01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:51,240 Speaker 7: hook A to p J Hooker. 1478 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 10: By the way that was going on there, it just 1479 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 10: changed it morphed into PJ Hooker. I think it was 1480 01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:01,040 Speaker 10: Joseph's idea at the time, and could we couldn't argue 1481 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,839 Speaker 10: with him because he was putting three dollars door charges 1482 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 10: one for us and we were cleaning up. So we 1483 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 10: take all that money and take off over recent support 1484 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,800 Speaker 10: acts like Australian Crawl and Moving Pictures with our original music. 1485 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:19,040 Speaker 10: Trying get that out there. And yeah, so Michael Klinski 1486 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,720 Speaker 10: wanted to sign us, but that didn't work out and 1487 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:22,720 Speaker 10: we missed the boat that. 1488 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,639 Speaker 6: You must have great stories from the road, Gary blogs 1489 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 6: in a car or did you have a minivan? 1490 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:29,960 Speaker 11: What did you have? 1491 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 10: I can't tell the show. 1492 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 7: That's hilarious. Use imaginations. 1493 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 5: What about those big acts that you sort of went 1494 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,880 Speaker 5: over and performed with like crawl and moving pictures were 1495 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:45,040 Speaker 5: really happening? 1496 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 7: Were they? Were they welcoming, you know, to you as 1497 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 7: a support act? 1498 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:51,680 Speaker 9: No? 1499 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,639 Speaker 10: Massive, They have this massive light show and a huge 1500 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,519 Speaker 10: pay give us. That's so you're only having a little 1501 01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,400 Speaker 10: part of this creo you only have before. 1502 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 7: They felt threatened the real guys. 1503 01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:04,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right. 1504 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 7: I don't want to threatening James Ryan. 1505 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I met you when you were doing you know, 1506 01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 6: the Night After became such a famous Perth institution at 1507 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 6: Gobbles mate days. 1508 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 7: Weren't they thirteen hundred gigs and a half years eighty days? 1509 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:18,320 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1510 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,000 Speaker 10: Look, it was formed by Paul Ridman who passed away 1511 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,679 Speaker 10: and they're no longer with us, and you know full 1512 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:29,040 Speaker 10: started that. Michael Parks came in you're interviewing him last week. 1513 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,439 Speaker 14: And I did we are very well. 1514 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely already I made airs. 1515 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 10: Paul, Yeah, me and I didn't count from the Franks 1516 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 10: and Carl Pantry came from over Easter. We're playing in 1517 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,120 Speaker 10: a band called the Kind, Yes, and they came and 1518 01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:46,160 Speaker 10: grabbed us and we joined the Gobbles band. And the 1519 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 10: beauty of our gobbles is you know, after all the 1520 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,120 Speaker 10: other musicians finished their gigs, like Lee Capri and all 1521 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 10: these guys, they would come up and all the girls 1522 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,320 Speaker 10: would follow them, so we give them free drink cards 1523 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,240 Speaker 10: and yeah, and then John Anderson, the owner of the 1524 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,120 Speaker 10: club at the time. You know, I'm clearsy pretty well, 1525 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 10: but he would send the guys across the road with 1526 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,720 Speaker 10: one hundred dollars drink cards for the roadies of the 1527 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,720 Speaker 10: entertainment center. Yes, so they would come over the road 1528 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 10: and the band's like simply read or Eurythmics, A C. D. C. Aerosmith, 1529 01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 10: Keanu Reeves, Charlie Sixman, Jimmy Vall my career was playing 1530 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:31,080 Speaker 10: through the tighty minutes. 1531 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 7: He just didn't know where to stop. One more Wellington Street. 1532 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:37,640 Speaker 7: How good is that? 1533 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 3: And he actually smelled on State All looking at him. 1534 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:42,639 Speaker 3: What's that smell? 1535 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,639 Speaker 7: I've heard that about tiny Bay. No, not a bathe 1536 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 7: and there was a lot of hair. 1537 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,639 Speaker 5: But I guess you never knew who could show up, yeah, 1538 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:53,920 Speaker 5: or whether they would show up. 1539 01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:54,920 Speaker 7: He knew they were on but. 1540 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the motto is not it's not a nightclub, 1541 01:14:59,520 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 3: it's a part. 1542 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 14: Yeah. 1543 01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 3: And so because everyone. 1544 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 10: Would get stuck to the carpet so they couldn't go 1545 01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:04,960 Speaker 10: home anyway. 1546 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,160 Speaker 7: True, I'm truebody. 1547 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:08,919 Speaker 12: To the places. 1548 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 1549 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,680 Speaker 5: It was a nine piece house band. How was it 1550 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,640 Speaker 5: working in such a large band because a lot of personalities. 1551 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:18,439 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's just brilliant. 1552 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:19,639 Speaker 3: We all got on really well. 1553 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,840 Speaker 10: There's really good players from the Family Band and stif 1554 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 10: need to on a tour from Dicken the Games, Vin 1555 01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,599 Speaker 10: Korea from the Elks helping you know. It came over 1556 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,799 Speaker 10: from the kind did count from the Frames, Alan Leiford 1557 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 10: who was in Mantike he was e Leade singer with 1558 01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 10: Mantig and many. 1559 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:38,639 Speaker 3: Many years ago. 1560 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,960 Speaker 10: And the world famous our Lets, Loraene Jones from Our 1561 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,719 Speaker 10: Gang and John Calabreeze who's now playing with Toddles Piece. 1562 01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:53,160 Speaker 6: Lower Yeahs totals Yeah, yeah, just world have been amazing 1563 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,400 Speaker 6: to have so many people rock up after their gigs 1564 01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 6: as well, mad and join in the fund because, like 1565 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,000 Speaker 6: you said, it was more more party than a club upstairs, 1566 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 6: it wasn't it. 1567 01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:02,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, And he used to do a bit of comparing 1568 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 3: up there. 1569 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, my cookie cookies to get me up there. It 1570 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 6: was always get Fun and Redland. 1571 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:10,720 Speaker 3: Good Fun. 1572 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 5: Of all the great bands that were playing at that time, 1573 01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,120 Speaker 5: did you have any personal favorites yourself. 1574 01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,840 Speaker 10: Michaels, all the Elks, well, Briant day Brewer. He was 1575 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:26,439 Speaker 10: always a prodigy, Like just watching him play. I always 1576 01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,720 Speaker 10: wanted to play as well as him, but never quite 1577 01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 10: got there. 1578 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, just there was a lot of bands. 1579 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:38,479 Speaker 10: The friends, ie Tiger bakerpri Loaded Dice. Loaded Dice are 1580 01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 10: one of my favorites. Prints the Boys, frind Lycas was 1581 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 10: a very close friend of mine from school. He's another 1582 01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:47,360 Speaker 10: that's left up. 1583 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 6: You mentioned the world famous or let's say, had a 1584 01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 6: hit called Dirty Weekend All Night Shuffles. 1585 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,080 Speaker 14: It was a beauty correct. 1586 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,280 Speaker 10: Jims was just a madman, was. 1587 01:16:59,200 --> 01:16:59,559 Speaker 15: So Gary. 1588 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,559 Speaker 5: You're very passionate about w Way's music history. What inspired 1589 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 5: your YouTube series called The Profile, in which you've interviewed 1590 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,639 Speaker 5: a lot of these people hundreds? 1591 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, Look, it was a passion of Alan Simpson's 1592 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 10: frol Vika Pria. So we set up at Pro Copy 1593 01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:22,120 Speaker 10: Mark Whitehouse and Chill Strawn did the camera's very low budget. Yeah, 1594 01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,040 Speaker 10: so we looked around the room and said, who's going 1595 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,000 Speaker 10: to interview all these people? So we essentially wanted to 1596 01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:33,759 Speaker 10: just record and document the history of all these musicians. 1597 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 10: So I didn't get that heritage wouldn't be lost. So 1598 01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,439 Speaker 10: we went to the Minister at the time for Arts, 1599 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 10: David Templeton, and I think he still is and he 1600 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:47,479 Speaker 10: wouldn't give us a cent. So we funded at ourselves 1601 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:51,600 Speaker 10: by borning the publiss which I think you might be 1602 01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:56,560 Speaker 10: doing something with the CDs giving away, but yeah, so 1603 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:02,040 Speaker 10: we essentially here one hundred and twenty six people. Some 1604 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,560 Speaker 10: of the stories are amazing. We'd asked some questions like 1605 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 10: where were you born, what made you pick up that 1606 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:11,759 Speaker 10: instrument to start your musical journey? So essentially we'd unpack 1607 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,160 Speaker 10: their journey and you know, and we'd ask a question 1608 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,200 Speaker 10: like if you were stranded on a deserted island that 1609 01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 10: could only take one album, which album would it be. 1610 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,960 Speaker 10: We'll just opened them up and to people like Jim Sheridan, 1611 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,760 Speaker 10: he ended up with Ringos Ringo Stars Original UK with 1612 01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,439 Speaker 10: kids and Hawie Johnson from Dave Warner Fain. He played 1613 01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 10: with Dave Warner. He told us stories about Bond Scott. 1614 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 10: He's to hang out with Bond Scott a lot. So 1615 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,120 Speaker 10: if you go on and see Gary Dunn the profile 1616 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,679 Speaker 10: on YouTube, you'll see one hundred and twenty six episodes. 1617 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,519 Speaker 10: I immented on there will be lost. 1618 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,640 Speaker 5: You knew them all then and so you know them 1619 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,000 Speaker 5: all now. Are there any that you've interviewed that have 1620 01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 5: stood out to you as GM. I'm really surprised that 1621 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,799 Speaker 5: you've gone in this direction from. 1622 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:55,680 Speaker 9: No. 1623 01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,679 Speaker 10: Well, someone had to do the interviewing, and Alan Simpson 1624 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 10: put it, said, the suit on there's a there's a 1625 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 10: box of the back of pro copy with one hundred 1626 01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,760 Speaker 10: and twenty six tires I had to wear a different time. 1627 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 7: You can do Regardland favorites. 1628 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 10: On the album started a pushing for me to become 1629 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:15,719 Speaker 10: a Mayor of Earth. 1630 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:17,800 Speaker 14: Yeah, you do it. 1631 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,559 Speaker 10: I didn't want to stand on Battle's toes. 1632 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 7: That job might be vacant and I will ask the people, Hey, 1633 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:25,639 Speaker 7: Garry different directs. 1634 01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,840 Speaker 6: You talk about documenting the history, but also it's a 1635 01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,280 Speaker 6: lovely thing for families in that to have in music fans. 1636 01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:31,680 Speaker 6: Because some of these people have passed away that you 1637 01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,839 Speaker 6: were spoken to about four. 1638 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 10: Fourteen or one hundred and twenty six have passed away. 1639 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,680 Speaker 10: Their family is very grateful that they've got something to 1640 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,320 Speaker 10: listen to. And yeah, it was just a real feel 1641 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 10: good thing and we did. We raised about one hundred 1642 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,360 Speaker 10: and twenty thousand from public egends. We put together a 1643 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 10: band of the Charles with Flash, Harry, the Frames, Ice Tiger, 1644 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:56,240 Speaker 10: all those bands, Loaded Dice and yeah, we raised a 1645 01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,120 Speaker 10: lot of money for well, I remember Jermy mcanty with 1646 01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 10: his cancer. Yeah, musicians that didn't have sleeper and didn't 1647 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,160 Speaker 10: have anything most of. 1648 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:13,680 Speaker 7: Them, isn't it? And sound people and that you know 1649 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,479 Speaker 7: you I got. 1650 01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,760 Speaker 10: To tell you Alan Simpson, he's just so passionate about 1651 01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:22,440 Speaker 10: helping people and uh and particularly musicians and the camaraderie 1652 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,200 Speaker 10: of when we all get together. 1653 01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:25,000 Speaker 3: It was eleak trick. 1654 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,160 Speaker 7: It was really supported. 1655 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't real to have the community. 1656 01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:32,320 Speaker 6: It's want to turn the tables on you mate. If 1657 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 6: you were on an island and no one else in 1658 01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,640 Speaker 6: the vicinity, what's the one album you take with you? 1659 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:41,360 Speaker 7: Be honest, I think I think the outside of the man, okay, 1660 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:42,880 Speaker 7: bird choice. 1661 01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:47,559 Speaker 5: Now the Gobbles reunion is happening next night. What can 1662 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,160 Speaker 5: you share with us about that? 1663 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:54,639 Speaker 10: Well, look, it's at the Hippie Club and John Anderson, 1664 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:59,679 Speaker 10: who owned Gobbles with is now with my son Denimar 1665 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,719 Speaker 10: and A and his partner Film and the Hippie Club. 1666 01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:06,519 Speaker 10: They want to start having Hidie Live. And so you 1667 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 10: rang me and asked me if we could do a 1668 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,639 Speaker 10: Gobbles reunion. So we're flying people in from all over 1669 01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:15,600 Speaker 10: the country. It's costing that twelve grand to put on. 1670 01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,120 Speaker 10: We need to sell four hundred tickets to cover that. 1671 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 3: We're doing really well. 1672 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,439 Speaker 10: Every one of these shows we've done has sold out. 1673 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,519 Speaker 10: Just back to the party, are you coming. 1674 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:30,200 Speaker 9: Clearsy help me? 1675 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:38,160 Speaker 5: There's cooking great down Yeah, yeah, telling to keep his 1676 01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,200 Speaker 5: clothes on. We know he likes to nude up that 1677 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,040 Speaker 5: nude gardening and all that sort of thing. 1678 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:48,680 Speaker 6: So I don't want to go into the cars more 1679 01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:49,280 Speaker 6: than anyone I know. 1680 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:53,639 Speaker 5: I know every Gary we look forward to the reunion 1681 01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,559 Speaker 5: and it's been great reminiscing this morning. 1682 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,400 Speaker 10: Well, thank you so much, thanks to your listeners. And 1683 01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,799 Speaker 10: you've got are just doing a wonderful job. 1684 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 3: Just banging on about the local. 1685 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, we love to bang on and we're celebrating today. 1686 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:09,519 Speaker 14: Mate. 1687 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 7: We've both got stamps on our left wrist to get 1688 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:12,800 Speaker 7: into a gobblin. 1689 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:16,240 Speaker 10: You get the yellow arm dance and. 1690 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:23,240 Speaker 7: That's funny. Thank you guys, thank you very much. 1691 01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,479 Speaker 1: We would be seeing a minute work, so said twelve 1692 01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,479 Speaker 1: hundred people. A minute working began the road. 1693 01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,280 Speaker 2: I don't need did the people party in the beanies, 1694 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 2: but the bands it was away. 1695 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,080 Speaker 4: Like Cozy and Lisa's pub draw. 1696 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,280 Speaker 5: I was at an all girls high school in the 1697 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:41,200 Speaker 5: early eighties and we all wanted to be the jam Tarts. 1698 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:42,439 Speaker 7: We thought they were the. 1699 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,840 Speaker 5: Coolest thing the bees to ever come out of Frio, 1700 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,920 Speaker 5: that's for sure. Jody Bell is our guest this morning 1701 01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 5: on our pop Crawl. Good morning, Jokie, Good morning over 1702 01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:54,799 Speaker 5: there way yes. 1703 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:59,479 Speaker 7: Yes, because you're in Melbourne misdays. Yeah, well, let's talk 1704 01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:00,519 Speaker 7: about the Tarts. 1705 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,680 Speaker 5: Jody Bell, Lucy Lehman and the gay girls Aga and 1706 01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:04,400 Speaker 5: Sophie Gare. 1707 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:05,760 Speaker 7: How did you all meet? 1708 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:07,599 Speaker 14: Cool? 1709 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,360 Speaker 15: Well, that's we all met at school because our brothers 1710 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:11,320 Speaker 15: went to school together. 1711 01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,840 Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, that's a handy way to do it. 1712 01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,519 Speaker 15: Gosh, listening to that song, Gosh, we had high voices. 1713 01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,719 Speaker 15: Things have changed now, it's all dropped a few notches down. 1714 01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,360 Speaker 6: We're going to get you recreate that vocal eft. They're 1715 01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 6: live right now on many from Melbourne. 1716 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 7: I had that sound because it was you know, it 1717 01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,360 Speaker 7: was chazzy, it was a bit you know, it was original. 1718 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,720 Speaker 15: You know, that was the big band. You know, the 1719 01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,599 Speaker 15: jam Tarts were just the four girl Yes, and when 1720 01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:48,200 Speaker 15: we we do a set with the girls, then the boys, 1721 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,439 Speaker 15: our brothers would do a set that was the Nan 1722 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,800 Speaker 15: sink or Yes, even though they weren't quartet, they were 1723 01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:02,439 Speaker 15: the quintet joined the band. Then we do the sets 1724 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,760 Speaker 15: at the end with all of us, which was the 1725 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,920 Speaker 15: big band. Which is that song that you heard, which 1726 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,879 Speaker 15: is you know great. The musicians they're pretty incredible. 1727 01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, you see like the Ocean's he's a local legend 1728 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,600 Speaker 6: joining in the quality musicianship was well and truly out there, 1729 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:18,920 Speaker 6: wasn't it. 1730 01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:20,800 Speaker 15: Yes, he joined our band. 1731 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,880 Speaker 7: I'll just remind you, yes that he did on many 1732 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,320 Speaker 7: awards ever years because he's a start. 1733 01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,360 Speaker 5: That was eighty six, But you guys were around earlier 1734 01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,920 Speaker 5: than that. But were you underage when you were performing 1735 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,519 Speaker 5: in some of the pubs you were performing in Yeah. 1736 01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:36,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 1737 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,559 Speaker 15: We had to have Kate, which was Sophie and Anna 1738 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,080 Speaker 15: and Adam's mum. 1739 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:41,400 Speaker 12: Yeah, would drive us to. 1740 01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,680 Speaker 15: All the gigs because we didn't have our license. But 1741 01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,680 Speaker 15: when we'd go busking, we'd have to catch the bus 1742 01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:48,320 Speaker 15: because no one wanted to give us a list to 1743 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,679 Speaker 15: that and catching a bus with a double bass. 1744 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:54,840 Speaker 7: It's a little bit interesting, isn't it. 1745 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,719 Speaker 15: Well it was better catching the bus time because invariably 1746 01:24:58,760 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 15: it was Mike guitar case. 1747 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:04,280 Speaker 6: All of money are talking, well, you know how the 1748 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:09,040 Speaker 6: straight what we're in a fall make as much as possible, Hey, juddy, 1749 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,240 Speaker 6: was did it start off as really serious, serious young 1750 01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:13,880 Speaker 6: things that were you're just going to go, let's go 1751 01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:14,519 Speaker 6: and have some fun. 1752 01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:17,679 Speaker 15: No, we're still not very serious. 1753 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:20,639 Speaker 22: No, we were. 1754 01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,800 Speaker 15: Oh look, you know we all because our brothers played 1755 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,599 Speaker 15: music and we you know, we've all played music since 1756 01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:30,280 Speaker 15: we were little, and we'd started singing, and harmonies were 1757 01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,479 Speaker 15: our thing, you know, we're just sing in the back 1758 01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:32,840 Speaker 15: of the car. 1759 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,240 Speaker 3: And I was the lows. 1760 01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,320 Speaker 15: She had the low, the good range down low. Lucy 1761 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,679 Speaker 15: was like the harmony mistress. She could find the great 1762 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,800 Speaker 15: little harmonies in between the fifth if you know, what 1763 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:50,479 Speaker 15: I'm talking about. And yeah, and it was just a 1764 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,000 Speaker 15: great combination and we had such a good time. 1765 01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,679 Speaker 5: It was such a healthy scene for playing in pubs. 1766 01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,160 Speaker 5: They were all over, not just in in the the 1767 01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,640 Speaker 5: city and in Fremantle, but all over the suburbs. Did 1768 01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,800 Speaker 5: you have any favorites that she used to perform at. 1769 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,720 Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, there were were a lot of gigs there. 1770 01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,800 Speaker 15: There was a a lot, yeah, you know, and we 1771 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,080 Speaker 15: all had other bands as well, you know. There I 1772 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,080 Speaker 15: had a little another band with my brother and with 1773 01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:19,720 Speaker 15: Sophie called Priscilla and the Pelvic Thrusters, and you know 1774 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:24,240 Speaker 15: there was we went on tour with our brothers and 1775 01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,519 Speaker 15: they had a roadie band. They were the Roadies and 1776 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:28,160 Speaker 15: they were called Brops on the shore Back. Yeah, we 1777 01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,120 Speaker 15: used to play four or five nights a week. It 1778 01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,000 Speaker 15: was great. I don't know what it's like now. I 1779 01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,360 Speaker 15: know there were four It's not like there were four girls. 1780 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 15: I hate to say it, but if I imagine if 1781 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,679 Speaker 15: there was a band that had four gorgeous young girls 1782 01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 15: in it, they'd get five gigs and not a week 1783 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,839 Speaker 15: in a week as well, you know, yeah, quite possible. 1784 01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,840 Speaker 7: Instagram sensations, but they have to be good. 1785 01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 15: They have to be good. 1786 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 14: Yeah. 1787 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:56,880 Speaker 15: Yeah, what was it like in the eighties It was 1788 01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:01,599 Speaker 15: great fun. Yeah, it was easy and free and yeah, 1789 01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,000 Speaker 15: now it's tough. 1790 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 5: What was it like being an all female band booking gigs? 1791 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,559 Speaker 5: And did it make it easier? Did it make it harder? 1792 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,439 Speaker 5: Did it have any effect at all? 1793 01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,080 Speaker 15: No, No, I think it did. Unfortunately it was We 1794 01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,439 Speaker 15: were a bit of a novelty because of the girls. 1795 01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:20,000 Speaker 15: But I suppose because we were good. 1796 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:21,679 Speaker 7: We're back to you had to tell. 1797 01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,680 Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, that's right. And we worked hard at what 1798 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,679 Speaker 15: we did. We we you know, we'd have we'd rehearse 1799 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,960 Speaker 15: all the time, and we ended up getting great gigs 1800 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,960 Speaker 15: with touring bands like we were whenever the Jonathan Jonathan 1801 01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:41,200 Speaker 15: Richmond or Hunderson Collectors or will the Wilson Pickets what 1802 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,360 Speaker 15: were they called, Yeah, the Wilson Pickets. 1803 01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:45,559 Speaker 7: Remember Wilson Pickett. 1804 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,760 Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, there was a band called the Wilson Pickers. Maybe. 1805 01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:57,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, Hunters would have been Jonathan Jonathan Richmond from Modern 1806 01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:58,280 Speaker 5: Lover as well. 1807 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,400 Speaker 15: That's right, we've that like he'd come back to person, 1808 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,800 Speaker 15: he requests us. That's good to do, is to do 1809 01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 15: the support. But then we got the tour with Ben 1810 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:16,920 Speaker 15: and Rick around and that kind of changed things as well. 1811 01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,639 Speaker 7: Absolutely, you went to Edinburgh as well, the Fringe Festival. 1812 01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,680 Speaker 15: Yeah, can you believe it? We manished to get there 1813 01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,080 Speaker 15: without the internet or. 1814 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, real and I reckon that was peak Edinburgh. Just 1815 01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:34,800 Speaker 5: you know legendary time. Is that where Sophie met her 1816 01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:36,400 Speaker 5: future hubby, Ben Elton. 1817 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:38,960 Speaker 17: No, we met Ben. 1818 01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,680 Speaker 15: On tour okay Wi around Australia with them. 1819 01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:44,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, gotcha. 1820 01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,680 Speaker 6: Hey, Jody, my managers can be ruthless, but when it's 1821 01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,080 Speaker 6: Anna and Sophie's mum Kate being the manager. Did she 1822 01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:51,840 Speaker 6: favor the girls or were you all good? Was it 1823 01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:52,280 Speaker 6: all either? 1824 01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,000 Speaker 15: She wouldn't, she'd favor Lucy and. 1825 01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,960 Speaker 7: I very good because the kids were trying to cry. 1826 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:05,800 Speaker 15: Probably it was so fun. She was absolutely legendary. How 1827 01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 15: the hell did she do that with our computer? I 1828 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,519 Speaker 15: mean we've got easy now, we've got internet, we've got 1829 01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,840 Speaker 15: mobile phones to track us down when we haven't come 1830 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,240 Speaker 15: home from you know, the nightclub. 1831 01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, she was probably using phone boxes and going to 1832 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,720 Speaker 7: the telics. Yeah, all that kind of stuffy hotel room. 1833 01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:23,559 Speaker 7: I do remember, exactly. 1834 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:28,920 Speaker 5: You are still well and truly doing music in ninety four. 1835 01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,519 Speaker 5: You moved to Amsterdam, met Steve Purcell and created boof 1836 01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,840 Speaker 5: which exists to this day and recently March. 1837 01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,640 Speaker 7: I think it was you came back to town with 1838 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:38,760 Speaker 7: book for the first time. 1839 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:39,360 Speaker 14: What was it? 1840 01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:41,280 Speaker 7: A homecoming of sorts. 1841 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:42,920 Speaker 3: It was so great. 1842 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:47,400 Speaker 15: We had such a good time. We had great gigs 1843 01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,720 Speaker 15: and I think we're you know, everyone really liked us. 1844 01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,200 Speaker 15: We had a couple of gigs in Perth, one in three, 1845 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,760 Speaker 15: one in person. Then we went down south and we 1846 01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:58,599 Speaker 15: played at Anna's daughter's wedding. 1847 01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:05,760 Speaker 5: Which yeah, that's right, yes, Denmark, of course. Yeah, when 1848 01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:07,320 Speaker 5: she lives with the tallest man in the world. 1849 01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:12,080 Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, Yeah. We had a great time and it 1850 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:15,920 Speaker 15: was such a shoot for the Victoria musicians come over 1851 01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,719 Speaker 15: to wet to the West and they just couldn't believe 1852 01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,840 Speaker 15: it how beautiful it was. And we had great weather 1853 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,000 Speaker 15: and yeah, it was a lot of fun. And hopefully 1854 01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,120 Speaker 15: we can do it again. Yeah, when we get that 1855 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:28,400 Speaker 15: festival gig or something. 1856 01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,960 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I've just heard that the Polics have said 1857 01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,280 Speaker 6: out now they're not reuniting, But what about a jam 1858 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:34,000 Speaker 6: Tarts reunion? 1859 01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:34,200 Speaker 23: Is that? 1860 01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,000 Speaker 7: Is that any chance in the future? 1861 01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:40,160 Speaker 15: Oh geez, that'd be fun. We have to get paid, 1862 01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,320 Speaker 15: we'd have to get lots and lots. 1863 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:47,200 Speaker 7: And lots of fun. Yeah, might be able to arrange that. 1864 01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:52,960 Speaker 15: You never know your taste the dollar down and strangle 1865 01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:53,479 Speaker 15: it to death. 1866 01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,680 Speaker 7: Absolutely, we know the value of a buck, that's right. 1867 01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:00,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, you've been working since a young age, you get it. 1868 01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,120 Speaker 5: I think you answered my question before with the wedding gig. 1869 01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:05,720 Speaker 5: I was going to say, they're still catch up with 1870 01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,040 Speaker 5: the girls all the time. 1871 01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:13,600 Speaker 15: And it's Samilman, who's Lucy's brother. Yeah, it's a significant 1872 01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,200 Speaker 15: birthday next week, so there's quite a few West's coming 1873 01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:17,120 Speaker 15: over for the birthday. 1874 01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,120 Speaker 7: Okay, very good because yes, because I rules the boys 1875 01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:20,479 Speaker 7: as well. 1876 01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:25,200 Speaker 15: Yeah, and you know we're all really close. It's like family. 1877 01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:25,599 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1878 01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,000 Speaker 6: And what age did we start saying significant birthday instead 1879 01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 6: of saying the number, isn't it? 1880 01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,360 Speaker 15: Well, let's face that night six. 1881 01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:35,479 Speaker 14: Yeah, a long time ago. 1882 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, a couple of years. 1883 01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,080 Speaker 15: And we started in eighty two. 1884 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:49,040 Speaker 7: Yeah if you add that, yeah, well we exactly. It 1885 01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,559 Speaker 7: is life the jam tarts. 1886 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,200 Speaker 5: Gosh, it has been lovely to reminisce with you this 1887 01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,040 Speaker 5: morning as we continue our Perth pub crawl back to 1888 01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:57,679 Speaker 5: the eighties. 1889 01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:00,479 Speaker 7: Joanie, thank you so much your voice. 1890 01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:04,320 Speaker 15: J that's so nice to have me, and you didn't. 1891 01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,559 Speaker 15: I didn't answer that question of which was the best 1892 01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:10,360 Speaker 15: gig in freo Oh yeah. In person, we used to 1893 01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,120 Speaker 15: play out all the time and it would have to 1894 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:13,519 Speaker 15: be the Sunday session at the Seed. 1895 01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:16,439 Speaker 7: See you see now Sunday sessions. 1896 01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:18,720 Speaker 5: You try to explain a Sunday session to the young 1897 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:23,959 Speaker 5: people these days, and they just they cannot grasp the enormousy, 1898 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,639 Speaker 5: the enormity of what was the Sunday session When things 1899 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,320 Speaker 5: were things just cut off. 1900 01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,439 Speaker 7: At eight o'clock. You had to get in there and 1901 01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:37,120 Speaker 7: you had to kill the end of that weekend you had. 1902 01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:38,519 Speaker 7: It was like we're going to work tomorrow. I'm going 1903 01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,519 Speaker 7: to do something school n y. 1904 01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:46,559 Speaker 15: Yeah, thank you, okay, bye for having me by. 1905 01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,040 Speaker 1: We would be seeing a minute work song to twelve 1906 01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,160 Speaker 1: hundred people. The men at working began the road. 1907 01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:55,120 Speaker 4: I don't the people the bands was a way of 1908 01:32:56,040 --> 01:33:00,679 Speaker 4: Lisa updraw continuing person of the crawl. 1909 01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:04,400 Speaker 5: Today, we've got Grace Knight from the Urugliders with us 1910 01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:05,719 Speaker 5: other Grace Grace. 1911 01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:09,320 Speaker 9: Welcome, Hi Clercy, Hi Lisa, how are you both very well? 1912 01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:09,599 Speaker 10: Now? 1913 01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:12,320 Speaker 7: You were right there in the think of it, I 1914 01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:13,599 Speaker 7: think arriving, am I right? 1915 01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,080 Speaker 5: You arrived in Perth in the late seventies because you 1916 01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:18,000 Speaker 5: came here to visit your sister. 1917 01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,040 Speaker 7: But you were doing a gig on a cruise ship 1918 01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:20,759 Speaker 7: to get here. 1919 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:29,160 Speaker 9: Correct, I was working my passage. That sounded funny, has 1920 01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,759 Speaker 9: a whole new connotation, doesn't It doesn't. 1921 01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:35,320 Speaker 6: Really what. 1922 01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:41,360 Speaker 9: Those listeners that don't quite know what that means. There's 1923 01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,599 Speaker 9: a way of traveling when you didn't have any money, 1924 01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,400 Speaker 9: so you would work, you know, you would work on 1925 01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:51,600 Speaker 9: a cruise ship or you know, a fishing boat or 1926 01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,599 Speaker 9: something like that, and you would work your passage. 1927 01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,479 Speaker 7: So she quickly introduced you to Bernie Lynch. 1928 01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:02,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, you found that you had a shared interest there 1929 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,759 Speaker 5: and formed a band called Living Single. 1930 01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,240 Speaker 9: That's great. Well, Bernie had formed a band called Living 1931 01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:13,280 Speaker 9: Single and then he asked me to join that band. Okay. Yeah, 1932 01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:16,920 Speaker 9: And prior to that, Bernie was seeing a band. 1933 01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,240 Speaker 7: Called ripped On in the stockings. 1934 01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:25,680 Speaker 9: There was one before that. I don't know if it 1935 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,880 Speaker 9: was called Loose or something about. 1936 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:35,920 Speaker 7: Okay, it was something class feet, Yeah. 1937 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,960 Speaker 9: I know it's gone. Sorry, was all right? All of 1938 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:41,080 Speaker 9: Minnestrone suits. 1939 01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,679 Speaker 5: Well, in nineteen eighty one, it officially became, we believe, 1940 01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:46,799 Speaker 5: the europe Gliders. 1941 01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:52,960 Speaker 7: Remember what work you're talking about that people? You want 1942 01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,000 Speaker 7: people on the dance flo when you're playing, Yeah, we go. 1943 01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,800 Speaker 5: So nineteen eighty one Perth it became the Eurogliders and 1944 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,439 Speaker 5: and you you would have been performing. 1945 01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:03,920 Speaker 7: The pub circus. 1946 01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,479 Speaker 9: Yes, yes, we were. And what a circuit it was. 1947 01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a. 1948 01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,639 Speaker 7: Circus, straight circus, so many venues. 1949 01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:16,559 Speaker 9: Well, right, it was during a time when young people 1950 01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:22,440 Speaker 9: went to watch live music. That's what we did for entertainment. 1951 01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:26,439 Speaker 9: Maybe you might go to, you know, a local football 1952 01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,280 Speaker 9: match on a Saturday or Sunday, but for the most part, 1953 01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:35,320 Speaker 9: young people went and saw live music, which meant musicians 1954 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:41,160 Speaker 9: could work five nights a week, yes, and really really 1955 01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:46,200 Speaker 9: hone their skills. And you know, we became quite a 1956 01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:50,000 Speaker 9: tight band working as much as we did. Of course, 1957 01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,680 Speaker 9: that's almost unheard of nowadays. 1958 01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, Grace, I remember hearing on this radio station ninety 1959 01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,120 Speaker 6: six a m most single called without You from an 1960 01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,400 Speaker 6: album called A Pink Soup Blue Day, which was the 1961 01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:04,120 Speaker 6: first album, and I went, wow, who's that? That must 1962 01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:05,480 Speaker 6: mean a very exciting. 1963 01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:05,600 Speaker 14: Time for you. 1964 01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,240 Speaker 9: It was. It was, it was our first I think 1965 01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:12,519 Speaker 9: It was our second recording. I think the one before 1966 01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:16,840 Speaker 9: that was called Laughing Matter, but that was the one 1967 01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:19,680 Speaker 9: that's kind of you know, got on to countdown and 1968 01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:24,880 Speaker 9: we started heading. You know, we were heading over Eastern 1969 01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:29,120 Speaker 9: and working touring over in the Eastern States, and it 1970 01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:33,200 Speaker 9: was the first time I think we heard our music 1971 01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,759 Speaker 9: on national radio. So we felt very very special. 1972 01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet you did. Do you remember where you 1973 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,719 Speaker 5: were the first time you heard yourselves on the radio? 1974 01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,920 Speaker 9: Well, I think, look, I think it might have been 1975 01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:48,240 Speaker 9: in a car, yes, on our radio on the way 1976 01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:53,720 Speaker 9: to a gig and saying listen to us. 1977 01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,880 Speaker 7: In those early days in the eighties, did you feel 1978 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,760 Speaker 7: a pressure to have to moved to the Eastern States. 1979 01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:02,799 Speaker 9: To Oh definitely. 1980 01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:03,200 Speaker 14: Yeah. 1981 01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:04,040 Speaker 11: Yeah. 1982 01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:10,360 Speaker 9: Look, we made an album called This Island, and this 1983 01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:15,240 Speaker 9: Island was called that because Perth felt like an island 1984 01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:20,880 Speaker 9: separated by a desert, but everything was happening in the 1985 01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:24,240 Speaker 9: Eastern States if you wanted to. Perth was a small 1986 01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,360 Speaker 9: a small town, you know, it was a small place 1987 01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:32,439 Speaker 9: at the time. We didn't have the internet, and you know, 1988 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:36,160 Speaker 9: we couldn't get out to the world from Perth. We 1989 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:37,879 Speaker 9: had to be in the Eastern States. 1990 01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:39,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, there and make some noise grace. 1991 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,519 Speaker 6: So last time we caught up, you did mention something 1992 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,280 Speaker 6: to do with via gloves, fans being very excitable and 1993 01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,680 Speaker 6: sometimes it got dangerous, especially if there were stacks of 1994 01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,320 Speaker 6: speakers or amplifiers around. 1995 01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:50,679 Speaker 7: Do you recall that story. 1996 01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:55,200 Speaker 9: I do recall that story, but what I can't recall 1997 01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:59,040 Speaker 9: is driving me crazy. And I know that some of 1998 01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:02,840 Speaker 9: your listeners will know the place I'm talking about. There 1999 01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:06,800 Speaker 9: was a wine bar in Perth, in the city that 2000 01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:10,880 Speaker 9: we used to play out every Sunday. Yeah, you had 2001 01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:14,000 Speaker 9: to go down a really skinny set of stairs to 2002 01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:15,919 Speaker 9: get down into this basement. 2003 01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:19,680 Speaker 5: And for the life I think I know what you're 2004 01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:21,360 Speaker 5: talking about, but I can't think of what it's called. 2005 01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,840 Speaker 9: And I want to call it the basement, but I 2006 01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:28,720 Speaker 9: think I'm getting confused with the basement in Sydney. But 2007 01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:32,479 Speaker 9: it was just the most incredible venue and we had. 2008 01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,160 Speaker 9: It was kind of like we were playing in our 2009 01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:40,200 Speaker 9: living room to our friends, albeit our poor friends were 2010 01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:45,280 Speaker 9: packed like sardines, and of course time everyone was smoking 2011 01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,280 Speaker 9: and it was I mean, you could imagine how how 2012 01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:54,360 Speaker 9: uncomfortable it was. And I remember, you know, we wanted 2013 01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,080 Speaker 9: a big sound so we would have a wall of 2014 01:38:57,320 --> 01:39:01,439 Speaker 9: speakers in this tiny little venue and they were just 2015 01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,920 Speaker 9: stacked on top of each other. And one day, you 2016 01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:08,280 Speaker 9: know that the whole wall just kind of fell down 2017 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:11,000 Speaker 9: and the audience. I mean, could you imagine we have 2018 01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:16,960 Speaker 9: been food from millions? Now that's that same venue, am 2019 01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:30,120 Speaker 9: I ad? We used to get paid in marijuana, say yeah, yeah, 2020 01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,160 Speaker 9: I'm hoping, I'm hoping. I'm too old to be a risk. 2021 01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:37,320 Speaker 7: I think limations, okay, yeah, And that was. 2022 01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:41,479 Speaker 9: Just trade, so we would get paid, you know, a 2023 01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:45,679 Speaker 9: little bag of marijuana. But I remember this one time 2024 01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:49,880 Speaker 9: in particular, that the owner or that the manager of 2025 01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:55,439 Speaker 9: the venue didn't have a bag of marijuanas. So he 2026 01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,960 Speaker 9: gave us. Now, you've got to let me finish this joy, 2027 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,439 Speaker 9: So he gave us a plant and it was in 2028 01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:06,200 Speaker 9: a pot with sir in the pot. Now, this venue, 2029 01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,800 Speaker 9: when we'd finished our set, also the venue where the 2030 01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:15,080 Speaker 9: local detectives used to like come and hang. And so 2031 01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:20,880 Speaker 9: I remember this if so clearly. I had this pot 2032 01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:26,760 Speaker 9: of marijuana, marijuana plant in a pot, and I used 2033 01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:30,439 Speaker 9: to drive in a little not June buggy what are 2034 01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:35,920 Speaker 9: the little buggies called little mini a little mini moke 2035 01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:42,000 Speaker 9: bark upstairs, and I just needed to get to the 2036 01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,800 Speaker 9: top of the stairs so that I could hide this 2037 01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:49,799 Speaker 9: marijuana plant. And so I had draped my stage clothes 2038 01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:52,960 Speaker 9: over it. And as I'm walking up the stairs to 2039 01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:57,200 Speaker 9: come out to my little mini moke, two detectives are 2040 01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:01,959 Speaker 9: coming down, and I'm absolutely re shitting myself. 2041 01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:03,400 Speaker 15: Oh my god. 2042 01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:07,280 Speaker 9: And this was it wasn't just my marijuana plant. It 2043 01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:15,799 Speaker 9: was the band's waging upstairs. And I have to gidle 2044 01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:19,760 Speaker 9: my way past these detectives and I and of course 2045 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,280 Speaker 9: Bernie just walked off and left me. It's like, you know, 2046 01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:28,080 Speaker 9: on your own head be it anyway. I don't know. 2047 01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,920 Speaker 9: It must have stunk, but I think, you know, maybe 2048 01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:37,760 Speaker 9: these detectives had more important thing was it was very 2049 01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:39,200 Speaker 9: very early eighties. 2050 01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:43,439 Speaker 7: That's funny. That is a great story. 2051 01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:45,960 Speaker 5: You talked about, you know, being able to perform for 2052 01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,320 Speaker 5: five nights because there were so many great venues. I mean, 2053 01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,160 Speaker 5: with the exception of the Old Charles, there's not too 2054 01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:54,640 Speaker 5: many of them left. Did you have I know, I 2055 01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,759 Speaker 5: personally loved going to the Shenton Park Hotel. 2056 01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:00,840 Speaker 7: Did you did you have a favorite that you liked 2057 01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:01,559 Speaker 7: to perform? 2058 01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:06,880 Speaker 9: Well, that one that name that I've just forgotten. Of course, 2059 01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:13,280 Speaker 9: that was fantastic because we built up this following. They 2060 01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:16,800 Speaker 9: were so into the music and they packed in and 2061 01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:21,479 Speaker 9: it really was like performing to our friends in our 2062 01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:22,400 Speaker 9: own house. 2063 01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,880 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, one of those buzz under the hotels that 2064 01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:27,599 Speaker 7: they often had with their live music. 2065 01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:32,080 Speaker 9: It was, it was, It was so much fun. The 2066 01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:38,640 Speaker 9: sound was terrible, you know, screaming in areas, but it 2067 01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:40,320 Speaker 9: was the good old, bad old days. 2068 01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:42,200 Speaker 7: Absolutely, absolutely. 2069 01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,960 Speaker 9: There were plenty of venues you know. Oh my gosh 2070 01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:49,040 Speaker 9: that the Subiaco is that called. 2071 01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:53,080 Speaker 7: Hotels still serving? Not far from the Shens. 2072 01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:57,800 Speaker 9: Oh my god, here we go. 2073 01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:04,600 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I remember the name from the from the 2074 01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:06,439 Speaker 6: band and gig lists that we used to get the 2075 01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:07,160 Speaker 6: daily news. 2076 01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:11,040 Speaker 9: Yep, the Ruffles of course. 2077 01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:11,880 Speaker 15: Oh my god. 2078 01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:15,960 Speaker 5: They're apartments now, very expensive apartments. And you know the 2079 01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:17,839 Speaker 5: Ston Park is an aged care. 2080 01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:19,559 Speaker 11: Race. 2081 01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:23,519 Speaker 7: We could go from partying there in the eighties now 2082 01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:25,479 Speaker 7: living out our days there. 2083 01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:30,080 Speaker 6: Did you ever play one of the nook and Busters 2084 01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:32,240 Speaker 6: at the Nook and Borough there, which is I think 2085 01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:33,080 Speaker 6: Spotlight now. 2086 01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:35,280 Speaker 7: Age facility as well? 2087 01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:35,559 Speaker 14: They're in. 2088 01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:44,559 Speaker 9: Goodness, we're all still alive to aged care. 2089 01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:45,320 Speaker 14: Yes? 2090 01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:48,320 Speaker 5: What about the other bands that were you know, doing 2091 01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,600 Speaker 5: on the circuit. Who were your favorites? We like you 2092 01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:53,679 Speaker 5: were perfect Rangers fan. 2093 01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,840 Speaker 9: Or who else did you This is not going to 2094 01:43:56,880 --> 01:44:01,679 Speaker 9: be a good answer, Okay, no, no, I worked five 2095 01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:04,720 Speaker 9: nights a week and the last thing I wanted to 2096 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:10,160 Speaker 9: do nights off was to go into a loud venue 2097 01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:11,920 Speaker 9: and listen to other bands. 2098 01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:12,479 Speaker 15: Enough. 2099 01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:17,280 Speaker 9: Absolutely, it was still ringing, you know, and we were 2100 01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:21,280 Speaker 9: doing like, you know, three one hour sets. Yeah, yeah, 2101 01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,760 Speaker 9: my ears would be ringing for days. And that was 2102 01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:26,920 Speaker 9: the last thing I wanted. 2103 01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:30,719 Speaker 7: No home to tange your plant. I think in the planet, 2104 01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:31,400 Speaker 7: avoid the cops. 2105 01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:32,120 Speaker 14: I love it. 2106 01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,360 Speaker 6: Grace When This Island came out and Heaven Must Be 2107 01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:37,960 Speaker 6: There just became this huge hit and absolutely was the 2108 01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,559 Speaker 6: album that followed. But when that happened, the things really 2109 01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:42,640 Speaker 6: that must have really changed for you. How did you 2110 01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:43,040 Speaker 6: handle that? 2111 01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:44,320 Speaker 13: Oh? 2112 01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:45,960 Speaker 9: Does it really change. 2113 01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:48,559 Speaker 7: A lot more people knew who you were. 2114 01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:52,479 Speaker 9: That's for sure, That's absolutely right. And we felt like 2115 01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:57,360 Speaker 9: we were on the way somewhere because you were always 2116 01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,280 Speaker 9: planning ahead, you know, you never sort of stopped to 2117 01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:05,479 Speaker 9: look behind and you know, see what had gone on before. 2118 01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:08,000 Speaker 9: You were always heading for the next goal. 2119 01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:09,640 Speaker 15: Yeah, and preparing for. 2120 01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:13,559 Speaker 9: The next level that you wanted to reach, and for us, 2121 01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:16,559 Speaker 9: you know, that would have meant touring in the States 2122 01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:20,160 Speaker 9: or in Europe something like that, So you never really 2123 01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:24,360 Speaker 9: it was fast and furious and you were always always 2124 01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:28,840 Speaker 9: moving forward, moving forward. So yes, I remember, you know, 2125 01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,400 Speaker 9: it was like, oh, this is exciting. You know, we've 2126 01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:35,160 Speaker 9: got x amount of people coming to our gigs. That's fantastic. 2127 01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:39,679 Speaker 9: But we were always aiming for the next goal. 2128 01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:42,560 Speaker 5: Of all those great bands that we used to go 2129 01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:46,160 Speaker 5: and see in the eighties, very precious few went on 2130 01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:50,759 Speaker 5: to have you know, national and of course particularly international success. 2131 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:51,760 Speaker 7: You were one. 2132 01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:56,040 Speaker 5: Do you think it was having those very definite goals 2133 01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:57,400 Speaker 5: in your head that set you apart? 2134 01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,920 Speaker 9: Oh, look, who knows who would not. I don't know 2135 01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:06,200 Speaker 9: the answer to that. We certainly did have goals, and 2136 01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:11,080 Speaker 9: we certainly you know, Bernie was a prolific and very 2137 01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:15,800 Speaker 9: good pop song right. Yeah, we were all of us, 2138 01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:19,400 Speaker 9: you know, focused on the plan, on what we were doing. 2139 01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,800 Speaker 9: So I think it would be a combination. I don't 2140 01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:26,040 Speaker 9: know what the answer is to that. Even even with 2141 01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:30,320 Speaker 9: the benefit of hindsight, anything could have happened, you know, 2142 01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:34,040 Speaker 9: it could be a combination of all manner of things 2143 01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:36,720 Speaker 9: and luck could have had something a little bit. 2144 01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:38,800 Speaker 7: Of a little bit, A little bit of that comes 2145 01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:40,560 Speaker 7: into everything, doesn't it. 2146 01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:46,560 Speaker 9: The hard r I worked like I got yea, So 2147 01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:50,559 Speaker 9: it was very very hard work. But no one minds 2148 01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,680 Speaker 9: that when you're doing something that you absolutely love. 2149 01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, we've seen in recent times some thingers through various things, 2150 01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:00,320 Speaker 6: just we can't hear their wonderful voices anymore. But still singing, 2151 01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:01,400 Speaker 6: still out there, Grace. 2152 01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:03,719 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yep, still still going. 2153 01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:07,479 Speaker 5: I'm still loving it, still loving that live connection that 2154 01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:08,599 Speaker 5: you get with an audience. 2155 01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:13,320 Speaker 9: I absolutely love that, and that's that's the thing that 2156 01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:18,280 Speaker 9: keeps me going. The traveling to and from gigs, I 2157 01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:22,200 Speaker 9: could really do without that. That's so painful, you know, 2158 01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:27,800 Speaker 9: sitting you know, traveling for five and six hours, get 2159 01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,479 Speaker 9: to a venue where you're going to perform for an 2160 01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:33,479 Speaker 9: hour and a half of the magic, and then you know, 2161 01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:35,560 Speaker 9: you do it all again the next day. It's like, 2162 01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:37,600 Speaker 9: oh my god, I can't need to. 2163 01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:43,040 Speaker 7: Rock and roll, paid for the travel and enjoy it. Yeah, 2164 01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:45,519 Speaker 7: well we are. 2165 01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,920 Speaker 5: We're glad that you're still doing it, and it's been 2166 01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,519 Speaker 5: lovely to reminisce about those early days with you today. 2167 01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:52,679 Speaker 7: Grace, brilliantly. 2168 01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:54,760 Speaker 9: Don't tell anyone what I said about We. 2169 01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:58,640 Speaker 7: Know we won't tell work. Your secret is safe with us. 2170 01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:03,479 Speaker 7: We don't know who office I Grace night, Thank you 2171 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:07,360 Speaker 7: so much, Thanks Grayce so much. We won't tell the text. 2172 01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:07,800 Speaker 14: People leave it. 2173 01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:12,680 Speaker 7: We're good bye. That's right. 2174 01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:13,519 Speaker 14: A couple of ardes. 2175 01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:22,400 Speaker 13: Bye, more Cley, more Lisa, more podcasts. Soon we will 2176 01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,200 Speaker 13: be seeing a minute work, so said twelve hundred people. 2177 01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:26,559 Speaker 14: The men at working began the road. 2178 01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,599 Speaker 4: I don't need to the people, the bands, Who's away 2179 01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:32,479 Speaker 4: and Lisa's to the pub crawl. 2180 01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:36,320 Speaker 5: Yes, continuing the pub crawl today by popular demand. The 2181 01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:42,360 Speaker 5: suburban boy from the suburb of Bictim. I think Dave Warner. Hello, Dave, welcome. 2182 01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:44,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, hi guys. 2183 01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:48,160 Speaker 7: Yes, you're quite right from Victim currently. 2184 01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:53,080 Speaker 18: In Sydney from and fine suburban is too. 2185 01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:57,599 Speaker 23: Yes, absolutely worth a lot more David than the day, 2186 01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:03,760 Speaker 23: you know, when the quarantine station was down there. 2187 01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,919 Speaker 5: We've been doing this for a couple of weeks, reminiscing 2188 01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:10,960 Speaker 5: about that incredibly vibrant pub scene in the eighties, and 2189 01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:15,960 Speaker 5: we have had so many requests from our listeners saying 2190 01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,320 Speaker 5: you've got to get Dave Warner from the suburbs. 2191 01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,519 Speaker 7: Is it nice, nice to be wanted, nice to be loved? 2192 01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,479 Speaker 7: Yeah it is, yeah, yeah, yeah it is. 2193 01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:26,479 Speaker 18: And so thank you, thank you all the people who 2194 01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,679 Speaker 18: requested and I had great feedback even over here in Sydney, 2195 01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:32,400 Speaker 18: people have been telling me that they're really enjoying it 2196 01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:33,679 Speaker 18: and looking forward to the segment. 2197 01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,560 Speaker 7: So it was, well, it was. 2198 01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:39,920 Speaker 5: It was an incredible scene. Did you have a favorite 2199 01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,360 Speaker 5: venue that you used to perform at? 2200 01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,920 Speaker 18: Look, I think for us probably the Shenton Park as 2201 01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,360 Speaker 18: we kind of kicked we kind of kicked that venue 2202 01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:49,400 Speaker 18: off really and. 2203 01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:55,120 Speaker 7: In the room as it was nice, very fancy. 2204 01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:01,720 Speaker 18: But look, many of them were great, but that that 2205 01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:05,519 Speaker 18: worked for us very well. But yeah, look there were 2206 01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:13,280 Speaker 18: so many great venues, the Herdsman, the Raffles that you know, overflow, yeah, 2207 01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,640 Speaker 18: all of them, and so many places and it's just 2208 01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:17,639 Speaker 18: so dynamic. 2209 01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:22,160 Speaker 12: Every six nights a week there exactly focus. 2210 01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:22,360 Speaker 14: That's right. 2211 01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:25,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, we could go nights a wet and some did. Yeah, 2212 01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:27,080 Speaker 7: and some fans came to every gig. 2213 01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:29,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, Dave, we've just said Suburban Boy and I played 2214 01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:30,880 Speaker 6: it a few times at home yesterday and there was 2215 01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:33,240 Speaker 6: nothing like it on Australian radio at the time with 2216 01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:36,160 Speaker 6: that swirling keyboard, that organ sound and the punk kind 2217 01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:38,280 Speaker 6: of attitude. Did you have an inkling you'd written an 2218 01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:39,960 Speaker 6: Aussie classic and nausie anthem at the time. 2219 01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:43,559 Speaker 18: I did look and honestly I wrote it in nineteen 2220 01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,560 Speaker 18: seventy two. I was driving along Quanana Freeway and you know, 2221 01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,240 Speaker 18: watching the It was kind of a drizzly, wet day 2222 01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,639 Speaker 18: and the windscreen wipers were going and I was really 2223 01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,680 Speaker 18: convinced that that I had written a hit song. That 2224 01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:58,960 Speaker 18: it took six years for it to become a hit, 2225 01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:01,560 Speaker 18: so there was no easy path to it. But I 2226 01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:04,040 Speaker 18: was really convinced in that song from the start, and 2227 01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,759 Speaker 18: it was kind of a bit of an annunciation about 2228 01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,400 Speaker 18: what my whole attitude to music was about. 2229 01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,160 Speaker 5: So it worked well, but it did take its time 2230 01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:16,000 Speaker 5: to come to fruition quick drive too. I reckon in 2231 01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:18,120 Speaker 5: nineteen seventy two. The Quanana Freeway only wed as far 2232 01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:22,960 Speaker 5: as Leach Highway later, and guess what as still being 2233 01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:28,080 Speaker 5: roadworks are still on it. Before the Suburbs, you were 2234 01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:32,240 Speaker 5: in a band that was considered Australia's first punk band. 2235 01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:37,240 Speaker 5: Probably that's why it was called Pus. That was kind 2236 01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:41,360 Speaker 5: of prime punk era. What what were the audiences like 2237 01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:42,080 Speaker 5: here for that? 2238 01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:46,800 Speaker 18: Yeah, well it was a small but very dedicated, what 2239 01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:49,680 Speaker 18: you would call a cult audience. And we played our 2240 01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:52,400 Speaker 18: first gigs were at the Governor Broom Hotel, which is 2241 01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:55,960 Speaker 18: now where the Berthy Edicenter sits in north Bridge there. Yeah, 2242 01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:59,080 Speaker 18: and then we graduated to the Red Lion Hotel run 2243 01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:00,479 Speaker 18: by margin donald. 2244 01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:02,280 Speaker 7: Oh Wownde. 2245 01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:07,840 Speaker 18: Some might remember Marty from World of Football here Michael 2246 01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:08,920 Speaker 18: McDonald Marty was his. 2247 01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:10,720 Speaker 12: Dad, and we said, oh Marty, can we have a 2248 01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:12,160 Speaker 12: can we have a gig? 2249 01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:13,840 Speaker 18: So he gave us a gig in this back room 2250 01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:17,759 Speaker 18: and it was fantastic and the audiences, look, we probably 2251 01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:20,599 Speaker 18: really got over one hundred to one hundred and twenty 2252 01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:24,040 Speaker 18: people there, but they were highly committed and the gigs 2253 01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:25,040 Speaker 18: were fully charged. 2254 01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:26,360 Speaker 9: As you say, it was. 2255 01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:30,040 Speaker 18: Kind of punk before punk. And a few of the 2256 01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:34,120 Speaker 18: songs that later became songs that I played with Dave 2257 01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:37,040 Speaker 18: wannas from the suburbs, but we would do other songs 2258 01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:41,759 Speaker 18: Frank Zappa and Stug songs, and we read songs and stuff. 2259 01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:43,519 Speaker 15: It was a really good time. 2260 01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:44,280 Speaker 7: I got to love it. 2261 01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:46,439 Speaker 6: What about that following man? Was it that got to 2262 01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:48,839 Speaker 6: Michael Gdinski's attention to get your signed on the mushroom. 2263 01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:50,760 Speaker 15: Look it was. 2264 01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:54,320 Speaker 18: It was quite interesting. What happened was there was a 2265 01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:57,560 Speaker 18: couple of people at I think Peter Grace. 2266 01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:02,720 Speaker 24: Sydney Djo Yeah, yeah, well he was the sixth r 2267 01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:04,600 Speaker 24: at the time and he was the name of Gidinski 2268 01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:08,479 Speaker 24: and also another couple of people, one of me and 2269 01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,320 Speaker 24: smith could be Smithy, the lady Ian Smith who was 2270 01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:13,600 Speaker 24: road manager for sid Rumpo. 2271 01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:17,599 Speaker 18: Originally when they went east, and Smithy another history mettle 2272 01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:24,160 Speaker 18: Boy and he both he and Gracie were telling Gitinski 2273 01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:25,680 Speaker 18: that they had to sign me and that I had 2274 01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:26,320 Speaker 18: this little. 2275 01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:28,639 Speaker 12: Eight track live. 2276 01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:30,760 Speaker 18: Recording that we did at the Centen Park Hotel and 2277 01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:33,639 Speaker 18: the Victoria Hotel in about nineteen seventy seven, and these 2278 01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:36,280 Speaker 18: just did blank cassettes and saw them off to the 2279 01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:39,080 Speaker 18: audience and they found their way east. And that was 2280 01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,840 Speaker 18: great for us because it meant that places in the 2281 01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:45,360 Speaker 18: East a lot of the bands in those days, the 2282 01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:47,680 Speaker 18: roadies would hear tapes that they liked and they'd play 2283 01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:50,080 Speaker 18: them through the po system before the main bands came on. 2284 01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:53,320 Speaker 18: So people were hearing our music over there, not via 2285 01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:58,080 Speaker 18: radio station, but had the live gigs that created a 2286 01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:00,680 Speaker 18: kind of demand, so it was really good arming for us. 2287 01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:04,040 Speaker 5: With the exception of the Charles with its original carpet, 2288 01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:08,160 Speaker 5: I'm sure there's not many of those places left, Dave. 2289 01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:10,360 Speaker 5: You know, do you know the Shenton Park is now 2290 01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:16,040 Speaker 5: a retirement Yeah, I'm aiming to go full circle to end. 2291 01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:16,280 Speaker 14: Up in. 2292 01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:18,439 Speaker 9: Yeah. 2293 01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:22,880 Speaker 18: It's quite sad, I suppose, but then again, most of 2294 01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,280 Speaker 18: the people of my generation now probably prefer to sit 2295 01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:26,120 Speaker 18: down in a theater. 2296 01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:27,320 Speaker 4: True. 2297 01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:31,600 Speaker 7: Sorry, go on, I was just going to say, but 2298 01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:33,040 Speaker 7: we did last two. 2299 01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:37,480 Speaker 18: Of Perth we played the Port Beach Brewery, which was 2300 01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:41,160 Speaker 18: a fantastic venue. Okay, yes, so that was That was 2301 01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:44,120 Speaker 18: a great venue, and there's some fabulous the smaller venues 2302 01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:47,480 Speaker 18: around the place, like the Duke of George and East 2303 01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:49,600 Speaker 18: from ant is a great smaller venue for people. So 2304 01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:51,880 Speaker 18: there's still some venues there. But yeah, it's not like 2305 01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:55,520 Speaker 18: there's not other days before where people could decide to 2306 01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:58,280 Speaker 18: go to three different venues and I don't like that, bend, 2307 01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:02,280 Speaker 18: Let's go to the next one, fussy, yeah, yeah, or 2308 01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,000 Speaker 18: can't get in to see Dick and the Dames And 2309 01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:06,960 Speaker 18: starting over, we'll go and see water at. 2310 01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:10,800 Speaker 7: The Dames doing the rhythm of life at the end 2311 01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:11,160 Speaker 7: of the game. 2312 01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:12,960 Speaker 14: Unreal, unreal. 2313 01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:15,880 Speaker 5: You've played with the likes of Men at Work, Midnight, 2314 01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:19,040 Speaker 5: Oil in Excess, Dragon and Skyhooks. Who was the most 2315 01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:21,880 Speaker 5: fun to play with? My money's on sky Skyhooks for 2316 01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:22,360 Speaker 5: some reason. 2317 01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:25,520 Speaker 12: They were surely was great mates. 2318 01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:29,000 Speaker 18: And I became really really good friends with Greg Greg 2319 01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:32,760 Speaker 18: McCain from Skyhooks and we've worked on stuff and worked together, 2320 01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:34,080 Speaker 18: so they were terrific. 2321 01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:35,280 Speaker 7: But look, the Dragon. 2322 01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,840 Speaker 18: Boys were fun too, and all all of those people 2323 01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:41,160 Speaker 18: were terrific. I didn't have I don't think I've had 2324 01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:44,120 Speaker 18: any bad experiences I can think of with any of 2325 01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,400 Speaker 18: those great bands that we played with. At the time, 2326 01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:49,400 Speaker 18: I played soccer with Men at Work. We were playing 2327 01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:53,520 Speaker 18: soccer in Adelaide the day that down Under was released. 2328 01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:54,760 Speaker 7: Really awesome. 2329 01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:58,280 Speaker 18: Yeah, and we're staying at the same motel and kicking 2330 01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:01,840 Speaker 18: the ball around with Colin Hayes him. I said, I reckon, 2331 01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:05,200 Speaker 18: this is going to be the best buzzy singles since 2332 01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:07,919 Speaker 18: Friday on my mind, and I hope. 2333 01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:11,160 Speaker 7: So, I hope so going to and he was at 2334 01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:11,600 Speaker 7: the Grammys. 2335 01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:16,000 Speaker 6: I just took off from Hey, David, your career made music. Laman, 2336 01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:18,320 Speaker 6: You've done so much with your writing and the rest 2337 01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,400 Speaker 6: of it with TV and movies, but in your career, 2338 01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,920 Speaker 6: it was there one time that you were starstruck because 2339 01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:25,280 Speaker 6: I know Dylan had some kind words to say about you. 2340 01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:29,160 Speaker 18: Yeah, well I did got to meet Bob Dylan, but 2341 01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:32,560 Speaker 18: I did meet his I met his band, Yes, and 2342 01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:36,080 Speaker 18: they all came and saw us and gave us tickets 2343 01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:38,880 Speaker 18: to the concert, and you know, they were really great. 2344 01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:43,320 Speaker 12: But yes, look, in nineteen to seventy two in Perth, 2345 01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:44,760 Speaker 12: I got to meet. 2346 01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:48,120 Speaker 18: Phil Oaks, the great songwriter co temporary of Bob Dylan, and. 2347 01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:51,440 Speaker 3: He was such a lovely guy. 2348 01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:54,520 Speaker 18: And when I saw him off at the airport, and 2349 01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:58,040 Speaker 18: I was definitely starstruck in and I found him very 2350 01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:01,240 Speaker 18: inspirational with his new I think, and you know, very 2351 01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,320 Speaker 18: sadly he took his life about you know, not too 2352 01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:05,520 Speaker 18: many years after that, but. 2353 01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:09,920 Speaker 12: A great, great singer, songwriter and performer. So yeah, I 2354 01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:11,160 Speaker 12: certainly start struck with him. 2355 01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:13,800 Speaker 7: Gone way too soon. Players. 2356 01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:16,280 Speaker 5: He just touched on the writing. You are an author, 2357 01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:23,000 Speaker 5: a screenwriter and a playwright. That's pretty impressive writing writing 2358 01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:23,680 Speaker 5: skills there. 2359 01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:27,720 Speaker 18: Well, I listen to you as anybody in the in 2360 01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:30,880 Speaker 18: the kind of pop cultural art scene in Australia. Knows 2361 01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:32,800 Speaker 18: you've got to do lots of things to survive, and 2362 01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:36,560 Speaker 18: you know so, but look, I have enjoyed it all. 2363 01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:40,440 Speaker 18: I always liked writing and writing books and plays and things, 2364 01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:43,200 Speaker 18: so it was kind of a natural fit for me 2365 01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:47,120 Speaker 18: to do that. And just I love being creative. I 2366 01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:51,480 Speaker 18: love keeping my you know, just sort of brain going 2367 01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:53,960 Speaker 18: on all those things, and still love playing. 2368 01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:56,400 Speaker 5: It's kind of a one stop shot really because if 2369 01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:59,360 Speaker 5: you're writing novels and then you can you can then 2370 01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:01,960 Speaker 5: develop the for screen or stage, if you're a screen 2371 01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:03,040 Speaker 5: writer and playwright. 2372 01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:05,920 Speaker 12: I have done that on a couple of times for 2373 01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,800 Speaker 12: that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's so hard. 2374 01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:11,040 Speaker 18: You know, you're right a screenplay and you think this 2375 01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:14,880 Speaker 18: is a great idea, but it costs thirty million dollars 2376 01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:17,480 Speaker 18: to make, and very people in Australia ever make those. 2377 01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:20,200 Speaker 18: So you can turn it into a book, and that's 2378 01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:21,120 Speaker 18: a lot cheaper to make. 2379 01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:23,920 Speaker 7: You're a triple threat. It's just a different kind of 2380 01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:25,720 Speaker 7: triple threat. You don't need to dance, you real good. 2381 01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:29,040 Speaker 6: We talked about it earlier about the demand for people 2382 01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:31,080 Speaker 6: wanting to hear you and in this three weeks we're 2383 01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,680 Speaker 6: doing here. But the fans. You can't ever knock the fans. 2384 01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,120 Speaker 6: Their loyalty has been amazing, hasn't it throughout the years? 2385 01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:37,560 Speaker 15: Oh? 2386 01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:38,760 Speaker 12: Absolutely. 2387 01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:43,480 Speaker 18: I think the Suburbs fans many of them have become 2388 01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:45,720 Speaker 18: personal friends over the time, and you know, I've seen 2389 01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:47,880 Speaker 18: their kids grow up and that sort of thing. 2390 01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:49,440 Speaker 12: But they have been. 2391 01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:52,240 Speaker 18: Incredibly loyal to me, and I just appreciate it so 2392 01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:55,080 Speaker 18: much because it means I can keep doing whatever the 2393 01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:58,840 Speaker 18: next thing is. You know, people buy a T shirt 2394 01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:01,760 Speaker 18: or a boy of course something you can go and 2395 01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:04,040 Speaker 18: do it, and it just there are times you think 2396 01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:06,200 Speaker 18: there is there any point in doing this, and just 2397 01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:09,000 Speaker 18: somebody writes you a note or sends you and drop 2398 01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:10,840 Speaker 18: you a line and says, you know, that song changed 2399 01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:12,880 Speaker 18: my life. I love that book and it. 2400 01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:17,080 Speaker 12: Makes a really big difference to you. I can say, 2401 01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:18,400 Speaker 12: I'm sure I speak for everyone. 2402 01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:20,800 Speaker 18: But you know, I've been on stage playing at the 2403 01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:23,720 Speaker 18: Troll and some guys rang me and their mate was 2404 01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,160 Speaker 18: dying in Darwin and they just wanted to hear Convict Street. 2405 01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:27,960 Speaker 18: So I played it for him, you know, and on 2406 01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:32,440 Speaker 18: his last day. And I've had songs played at people's funerals, 2407 01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:35,320 Speaker 18: so probably say they're really emotional. You know, I think 2408 01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:36,960 Speaker 18: you've sort of traveled through. 2409 01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,720 Speaker 6: Life with someone impact. I want to get one of 2410 01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:41,400 Speaker 6: those Suburban and Soldiers T shirts. I'm going to buy 2411 01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:42,000 Speaker 6: one of those online. 2412 01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:42,240 Speaker 19: I like that. 2413 01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:42,800 Speaker 14: Look at those. 2414 01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:48,800 Speaker 5: Very nice and you know, performing at shows now performing 2415 01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:51,360 Speaker 5: to the people that came to see you originally and 2416 01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:53,440 Speaker 5: the new generation, and I reckon, we're just about getting 2417 01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:56,320 Speaker 5: into a third generation of people. 2418 01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:58,280 Speaker 7: Did it coming to some of those shows? 2419 01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:02,360 Speaker 18: Yeah, well I'd love to get more and more younger 2420 02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:04,560 Speaker 18: people are still predominantly older, and I get a few 2421 02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:07,040 Speaker 18: who you know, who tumble down. 2422 02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:07,640 Speaker 12: But it's great. 2423 02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:08,720 Speaker 18: Sometimes you're playing in. 2424 02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:11,520 Speaker 3: A place and people have no idea who you are. 2425 02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:13,000 Speaker 12: They've got no idea of the backstory. 2426 02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:15,600 Speaker 18: Yeah, just some young backpackers or something while you're in 2427 02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:18,840 Speaker 18: and hear it and they go, oh wow, you know, 2428 02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:24,000 Speaker 18: I really enjoyed it. So I think for us older people, yes, 2429 02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:24,960 Speaker 18: it's terrific. 2430 02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:27,400 Speaker 12: Amuse those. It's great when you're playing to strike. 2431 02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:30,000 Speaker 6: A chord with young people generations. And that's the other thing, mate. 2432 02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:32,320 Speaker 6: Do a lot of people leave Perth and go make 2433 02:00:32,360 --> 02:00:34,360 Speaker 6: a name for themselves. You've never been forgotten in Perth. 2434 02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:37,120 Speaker 6: It's that's what I think. And testament to the last 2435 02:00:37,160 --> 02:00:38,440 Speaker 6: three weeks with people contacting us. 2436 02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:42,200 Speaker 12: Yeah, well look it's still it is really still home, 2437 02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:42,480 Speaker 12: you know. 2438 02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:46,200 Speaker 18: And I think most of the people of my time, 2439 02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:49,640 Speaker 18: you didn't really have any alternative. 2440 02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:52,600 Speaker 12: But to leave Earth if you wanted to pursue something, yeah, you. 2441 02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:59,360 Speaker 5: Know, or music, Yeah, different, different kettlefish now, of course 2442 02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:01,440 Speaker 5: a lot to do with the way music is produced, 2443 02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:05,000 Speaker 5: but you just had no choice. Another thing that people, 2444 02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:07,920 Speaker 5: a lot of the bands we've talked to about this time, 2445 02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:12,200 Speaker 5: they felt pressured to do covers. How did you feel 2446 02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:15,160 Speaker 5: about the whole covers versus original stuff? 2447 02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:19,800 Speaker 18: Look, I always felt that what I wanted to do 2448 02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:23,920 Speaker 18: was original music, and if I did covers, I did 2449 02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:26,040 Speaker 18: do a few covers, and I did that, but I 2450 02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:29,080 Speaker 18: always tried to pick something that was different or do 2451 02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:30,040 Speaker 18: a different way. 2452 02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:31,480 Speaker 15: But I didn't. 2453 02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:34,840 Speaker 18: I wasn't one of the people, you know, became quite 2454 02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:37,919 Speaker 18: vituperative to use that word. Some people in the original 2455 02:01:38,040 --> 02:01:41,120 Speaker 18: scene really dislike cover band people. 2456 02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:42,200 Speaker 12: I never found that. 2457 02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:44,240 Speaker 18: I mean, I just thought we're all musicians, and you 2458 02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:47,200 Speaker 18: do you do what you do and what suits you, 2459 02:01:47,320 --> 02:01:50,600 Speaker 18: and you know, I saw bands like Well Loaded Dice 2460 02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:53,320 Speaker 18: that I mentioned an de Kaynes, who were a cover 2461 02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:55,160 Speaker 18: band essentially for a long long time. 2462 02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:58,680 Speaker 12: They didn't help them, but the energy that they brought 2463 02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:01,480 Speaker 12: to a show was to me. 2464 02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:05,200 Speaker 18: I took it to another level and it was exciting 2465 02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:06,880 Speaker 18: as if I had walked down to the cabin and 2466 02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:07,879 Speaker 18: was seeing the Beatles. 2467 02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:11,160 Speaker 12: You know, So how do you quantify those things? 2468 02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:14,560 Speaker 3: I mean, it's good, yeah, yeah, exactly. 2469 02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:15,560 Speaker 12: If it makes you feel good. 2470 02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:19,800 Speaker 18: So but but you know, played your strengths and for me, 2471 02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:22,200 Speaker 18: that was doing I wasn't good enough musician to do 2472 02:02:22,240 --> 02:02:23,360 Speaker 18: all those tricky. 2473 02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:26,320 Speaker 12: Own stuff to make it simple. 2474 02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:26,560 Speaker 9: You know. 2475 02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:27,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right about Decaines. 2476 02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:30,640 Speaker 6: But you know, yes, a Sunday session at the Heardies, 2477 02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:32,520 Speaker 6: he'd dicking the Dames in the day on a Sunday 2478 02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:34,200 Speaker 6: and he was hilarious on stage. 2479 02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:35,760 Speaker 7: He may not get away with it in. 2480 02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:39,000 Speaker 6: Twenty twenty four, but you must say he's a funny bugger, 2481 02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:41,080 Speaker 6: but he is a funny member. You you must have 2482 02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:43,120 Speaker 6: seen some funny things on stage with a lot of 2483 02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:44,280 Speaker 6: Americans rolling up the gigs. 2484 02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:48,680 Speaker 18: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I played with the funniest 2485 02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:53,560 Speaker 18: of them all. My right hand man, Johnny Leopard. It 2486 02:02:53,960 --> 02:02:57,280 Speaker 18: was probably Look, I don't think he was peerless in 2487 02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:01,760 Speaker 18: terms of Australian rock harrists, just that he had this 2488 02:03:02,240 --> 02:03:07,240 Speaker 18: incredible animated face. He was really really quick, witty and funny, 2489 02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:11,960 Speaker 18: and we could just riff off something verbally on stage 2490 02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:13,640 Speaker 18: and he'd pick up where. 2491 02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:14,120 Speaker 3: I was going. 2492 02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:18,600 Speaker 18: And he was really unique. And anybody who saw him 2493 02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:21,240 Speaker 18: from overseas like we'd play, we'd support bands like the 2494 02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:24,360 Speaker 18: Stranglers or somebody just couldn't believe Leopard. And a great 2495 02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:26,120 Speaker 18: regret of mine is that we didn't get a chance 2496 02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:28,920 Speaker 18: to play overseas with that band at that Hikers. 2497 02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:31,600 Speaker 12: I think places like Los Angeles the Viper Room would. 2498 02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:39,240 Speaker 7: Have loved left absolutely yeah and dangerous Dave Warner from 2499 02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:40,000 Speaker 7: the Suburbs. 2500 02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:43,400 Speaker 5: It has been an absolute treat for all of us 2501 02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:45,000 Speaker 5: this morning to reminisce with you. 2502 02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:47,800 Speaker 7: Thanks, thanks for being part of it. Does it catch up? 2503 02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:48,040 Speaker 14: Mate? 2504 02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:49,320 Speaker 7: Oh my pleasure? 2505 02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:50,840 Speaker 18: Thanks for keeping the vibe alive. 2506 02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:51,160 Speaker 9: Well. 2507 02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:53,560 Speaker 18: I know it means a lot to musicians of my 2508 02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:56,320 Speaker 18: era and hopefully to the fans, but it was a 2509 02:03:56,360 --> 02:03:59,680 Speaker 18: great time and I was so fortunate to be part. 2510 02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:02,040 Speaker 7: Of its day. You have a great week. 2511 02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:02,480 Speaker 9: Bye. 2512 02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:08,000 Speaker 1: We would be seeing a minute works twelve hundred people, 2513 02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:10,080 Speaker 1: a man at working again their own, the. 2514 02:04:10,120 --> 02:04:15,000 Speaker 4: People and the bands was a way of Lisa's draw. 2515 02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:19,360 Speaker 5: Today, Slim drew himself Jamie mccanty, good morning. 2516 02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:21,920 Speaker 14: Believe it. 2517 02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:23,120 Speaker 7: This is ob scene. 2518 02:04:23,120 --> 02:04:25,400 Speaker 25: Getting up this hour of morning is like tortune for 2519 02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:28,600 Speaker 25: a rock and roll mate, What are you talking about? 2520 02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:31,560 Speaker 25: What are you talking about? It is the defibrillator outside 2521 02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:33,480 Speaker 25: for ready to go? Yeah, yeah, we didn't know you 2522 02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:34,240 Speaker 25: needed a rider. 2523 02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:37,440 Speaker 6: Yeahs at least is practically a doctor maker. 2524 02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:40,800 Speaker 7: I'll give it. Google having about the. 2525 02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:45,040 Speaker 26: Mouse, every condition, Google for sussitation time doctor. 2526 02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:49,160 Speaker 7: Google that cassette. The quality sounded also, it was unreal. 2527 02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:51,400 Speaker 26: You know, I had a transferred to see a few 2528 02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:55,040 Speaker 26: years back because I've got one cassette left right on 2529 02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:57,680 Speaker 26: my shelf. And the interesting thing about it is on 2530 02:04:57,720 --> 02:04:59,560 Speaker 26: the back of it, we had this sticker that we 2531 02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:01,880 Speaker 26: had to put on manually. So we all came to 2532 02:05:01,960 --> 02:05:04,200 Speaker 26: the office one day and sat down with it. You know, 2533 02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:05,880 Speaker 26: I think there was about two and a half thousand 2534 02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:08,320 Speaker 26: cassettes and a couple of boxes, and then we had 2535 02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:10,320 Speaker 26: all these stickers and we had to apply the sticket 2536 02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:14,320 Speaker 26: to the back, which was warning this cassette contains hidden 2537 02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:19,600 Speaker 26: Christian messages. Oh like the opening ceremony like that. Yeah, 2538 02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:25,520 Speaker 26: that's been controversial, hasn't they? Yeah, but it sold really well. 2539 02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:26,080 Speaker 14: Yeah. Good. 2540 02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:29,720 Speaker 5: You recorded that live at the OBA back then play 2541 02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:31,880 Speaker 5: the full version because it went for about twenty five hours. 2542 02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:34,160 Speaker 26: But the reason why I sent it through is because 2543 02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:36,560 Speaker 26: it's really indicative how that the crowd used to go 2544 02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:39,360 Speaker 26: off at the ABA. It was an absolute unique in 2545 02:05:39,400 --> 02:05:41,800 Speaker 26: its own way because it was licensed for the remy 2546 02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:43,680 Speaker 26: were playing. It was licensed for two hundred and twenty 2547 02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:46,200 Speaker 26: five people, and I know because we had the door 2548 02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:49,280 Speaker 26: charge on, so we had a head count and there 2549 02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:52,400 Speaker 26: was an excess of six hundred and six hundred and 2550 02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:54,960 Speaker 26: fifty average every single Saturday night. 2551 02:05:55,640 --> 02:05:56,680 Speaker 14: So that was extraordinary. 2552 02:05:56,720 --> 02:05:58,880 Speaker 26: But it just wasn't shaped or made for it, but 2553 02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:01,720 Speaker 26: for some odd reason just had this atmosphere like no other, 2554 02:06:02,120 --> 02:06:06,080 Speaker 26: Like for example, it was the beat it was and 2555 02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:09,480 Speaker 26: all that facade of the OBH was covered in glass, yes, 2556 02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:14,200 Speaker 26: in the studio, and while we were playing, especially in summer, 2557 02:06:14,360 --> 02:06:17,080 Speaker 26: the condensation with all the people being sort of sort 2558 02:06:17,080 --> 02:06:20,160 Speaker 26: of so tightly packed in there, he used to rain 2559 02:06:20,240 --> 02:06:21,640 Speaker 26: on the inside of the windows. 2560 02:06:21,920 --> 02:06:24,360 Speaker 7: It was out of control, but that was your fault 2561 02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:25,280 Speaker 7: because you guys are so good. 2562 02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:26,800 Speaker 14: Well, yeah good. 2563 02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:30,400 Speaker 26: It's a weird thing, though, cleary because the FATS Band's 2564 02:06:30,640 --> 02:06:33,520 Speaker 26: history was one where none of us had any experience 2565 02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:36,280 Speaker 26: playing in a band prior to join starting the FATS Band, 2566 02:06:36,760 --> 02:06:40,040 Speaker 26: and we all came from very like bizarre sort of backgrounds, 2567 02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:41,640 Speaker 26: like a Drummond was from a punk bank called the 2568 02:06:41,680 --> 02:06:45,480 Speaker 26: Tarantulas and the Kansas City Killers KKK it was spelled, 2569 02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:47,960 Speaker 26: and they used to play at the places like the 2570 02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:50,040 Speaker 26: Wiz Bar, which you keep talking about in the last 2571 02:06:50,080 --> 02:06:53,200 Speaker 26: couple of weeks, which is great. Our bass player never 2572 02:06:53,240 --> 02:06:55,520 Speaker 26: played bass before, but his brother owned a bass it 2573 02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:58,520 Speaker 26: was close enough. The lead guitarist was actually a bass 2574 02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:01,640 Speaker 26: player whose mother had left handed leg guitar because he 2575 02:07:01,680 --> 02:07:04,600 Speaker 26: was handed, so he was in and this is how 2576 02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:06,920 Speaker 26: the story went. So none of us really had an experience, 2577 02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:09,600 Speaker 26: but we had this absolute drive to actually start a 2578 02:07:09,680 --> 02:07:12,040 Speaker 26: band because I was working on a project called Godspell 2579 02:07:12,440 --> 02:07:15,400 Speaker 26: because I came out of weight with the theater, Arts 2580 02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:19,440 Speaker 26: and journalism degree. And the band that we put together 2581 02:07:19,480 --> 02:07:23,560 Speaker 26: for the orchestra for Godspell was basically the embryo of 2582 02:07:23,640 --> 02:07:26,360 Speaker 26: what the Fatspan became. And none of us. As I said, 2583 02:07:26,360 --> 02:07:27,880 Speaker 26: I had an experience in the rock and roll game. 2584 02:07:27,920 --> 02:07:29,880 Speaker 26: But we thought, well, you know, this sounds pretty interesting. 2585 02:07:30,160 --> 02:07:32,360 Speaker 26: And at that time, that was coming into the recession 2586 02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:35,200 Speaker 26: and there was no money being spent in theater or beings. 2587 02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:38,680 Speaker 26: You know, there was no funding. There was no funding 2588 02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:40,880 Speaker 26: it yet nothing was going on, and all the theater 2589 02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:44,320 Speaker 26: companies were really alarmed. I could see that my future 2590 02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:46,800 Speaker 26: as an actor was pretty limited in Perth, so I thought, 2591 02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:49,920 Speaker 26: let's try something else, and wanting to keep performing, we 2592 02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:52,200 Speaker 26: decided maybe the fat Span might be a good forum 2593 02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:53,520 Speaker 26: and it just worked. 2594 02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:54,000 Speaker 14: It clicked. 2595 02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:57,640 Speaker 26: But in those days, though, to be fair, I mean, 2596 02:07:57,800 --> 02:07:59,920 Speaker 26: people gave us a lot of chances to get out 2597 02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:03,280 Speaker 26: to learn our craft and get it right. And there 2598 02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:05,760 Speaker 26: was great examples playing at the time, like the Frames, 2599 02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:10,160 Speaker 26: the Jets, Flash, Harry Flying Fontsa Rallies. I mean, the 2600 02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:13,280 Speaker 26: bands were just epic. So you just go and see 2601 02:08:13,360 --> 02:08:14,800 Speaker 26: some of these bands. It was like a you know, 2602 02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:18,360 Speaker 26: a bridging course of how to play rock and roll 2603 02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:21,320 Speaker 26: on Perth. So we learned our lessons pretty quickly, and 2604 02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:24,840 Speaker 26: for some reason, we went from zero gigs from I 2605 02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:27,560 Speaker 26: think June when we sort of launched them by July, 2606 02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:31,080 Speaker 26: we were playing the Albion on a Thursday, the Silver 2607 02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:34,280 Speaker 26: Slipper and Netlins downstairs, the Broadway Fair shopping Center on 2608 02:08:34,360 --> 02:08:37,320 Speaker 26: the Friday, and the Saturdays then became the ABH and 2609 02:08:37,440 --> 02:08:41,520 Speaker 26: that was just it just blew out of proportion and 2610 02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:43,480 Speaker 26: it stayed that way for several years. 2611 02:08:43,720 --> 02:08:45,560 Speaker 7: With so many great venues. It was like a Smalls board, 2612 02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:45,840 Speaker 7: wasn't it. 2613 02:08:45,960 --> 02:08:46,240 Speaker 14: It was? 2614 02:08:47,320 --> 02:08:49,640 Speaker 26: And hearing in these interviews this week has been incredible. 2615 02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:52,440 Speaker 26: The ship and park was amazing, you know, and now 2616 02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:54,240 Speaker 26: it's not there. I mean I used to go to 2617 02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:57,160 Speaker 26: the overflow like I'm sure you guys, and now it's 2618 02:08:57,360 --> 02:09:00,760 Speaker 26: not there, you know. And seeing the jet raid has gone, 2619 02:09:01,240 --> 02:09:04,839 Speaker 26: the Florida Florida it went, you know, the Herdsman got changed. 2620 02:09:05,320 --> 02:09:08,120 Speaker 26: It's quite sad because those rooms, albeit the fact there 2621 02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:10,320 Speaker 26: were large scar rooms and could carry it at least 2622 02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:13,800 Speaker 26: one thousand plus people. We became famous for sort of 2623 02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:17,680 Speaker 26: like pulling big numbers into moderate sized venues and continually 2624 02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:20,400 Speaker 26: packing them out for a few decades. So that was 2625 02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:23,560 Speaker 26: probably what our Forte was and the essence of the band. 2626 02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:25,360 Speaker 26: Because of the way we didn't have any experience in 2627 02:09:25,480 --> 02:09:27,280 Speaker 26: rock and roll. We always felt it needed to be 2628 02:09:27,320 --> 02:09:29,720 Speaker 26: a variety show. So it was an eight piece band 2629 02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:31,960 Speaker 26: when we started, with two girls and six guys playing 2630 02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:35,560 Speaker 26: multiple instruments, singing all forms of stuff. 2631 02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:36,360 Speaker 14: And when we started, we. 2632 02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:39,000 Speaker 26: Were basically a fifty five to sixty five era band, 2633 02:09:39,480 --> 02:09:41,200 Speaker 26: So it was a bit like Fingerprints, but like a 2634 02:09:41,240 --> 02:09:43,200 Speaker 26: big version of the Fingerprints in a way. 2635 02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:44,280 Speaker 14: Because that's what they were famous for. 2636 02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:47,200 Speaker 26: And we sort of kept that energy going and as 2637 02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:51,240 Speaker 26: music morph, like the Commitments came on board, Tour of 2638 02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:54,200 Speaker 26: Duty was out with huge soundtracks coming out, so that 2639 02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:58,200 Speaker 26: really fed our sixties vibe and also the rhythm blues vibe, 2640 02:09:58,320 --> 02:09:59,920 Speaker 26: which I became a massive fan of. 2641 02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:02,640 Speaker 14: So that's how the band sort of developed. 2642 02:10:02,720 --> 02:10:06,200 Speaker 26: But the variety aspect then and now is the most 2643 02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:10,280 Speaker 26: the greatest asset of the in my opinion anyway. 2644 02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:14,040 Speaker 5: Those Duty soundtracks that they were my research for the 2645 02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:15,560 Speaker 5: bands that I've missed, you know, just. 2646 02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:17,240 Speaker 7: Ahead of my time, and I don't think a lot 2647 02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:17,960 Speaker 7: of people did. 2648 02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:20,040 Speaker 14: I'm sure of it. 2649 02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:23,080 Speaker 7: By the way, it's off topic, but I love God's Spell. 2650 02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:25,680 Speaker 5: Who was that gorgeous woman that did day by day 2651 02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:27,440 Speaker 5: in pre per year telethon back in the way. 2652 02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:37,040 Speaker 7: We'll never forget it. Forgot Queen and Poppa once was. 2653 02:10:37,680 --> 02:10:39,520 Speaker 7: I will never forget that performance as long. 2654 02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:46,200 Speaker 5: But anyway, back on track, lovely collage, guys, the longevity 2655 02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:50,320 Speaker 5: of your band, what what do you think has led 2656 02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:52,760 Speaker 5: you guys to still be doing it around town that time? 2657 02:10:53,000 --> 02:10:57,480 Speaker 26: The energy of the team collectively, always putting their cards 2658 02:10:57,520 --> 02:10:59,640 Speaker 26: on the table every time they go to work. That's 2659 02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:01,440 Speaker 26: the only way you can survive. I mean, I think 2660 02:11:01,480 --> 02:11:03,760 Speaker 26: people will be pretty sick of me after thirty eight years. 2661 02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:06,280 Speaker 26: So you know they're either going to get you know 2662 02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:10,120 Speaker 26: what I mean. The hare is their hairstyle what never, 2663 02:11:10,160 --> 02:11:12,840 Speaker 26: It's not going to saw some good hair photos of you. Yeah, 2664 02:11:14,440 --> 02:11:17,960 Speaker 26: but that's that's the reason why I'm happy to be bored. 2665 02:11:18,560 --> 02:11:21,480 Speaker 26: I had no conscious hairstyle whatsoever. And my mother was 2666 02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:23,560 Speaker 26: a hairdresser and the day I walked in board, she 2667 02:11:23,600 --> 02:11:27,200 Speaker 26: just shook her head and just went, what's going on here? 2668 02:11:27,920 --> 02:11:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2669 02:11:28,400 --> 02:11:31,560 Speaker 26: It's really the energy collectively of the team that put 2670 02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:33,760 Speaker 26: it out on stage, and it's just a joy to 2671 02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:36,520 Speaker 26: be with. And we've had some reunions in recent years. 2672 02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:39,080 Speaker 26: We went back to the ABH last year at least 2673 02:11:39,080 --> 02:11:41,840 Speaker 26: from pleasant and it was it was really nice to 2674 02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:45,880 Speaker 26: see not only the fans come back and and sort 2675 02:11:45,920 --> 02:11:49,000 Speaker 26: of like misbehavior as they used to do back in 2676 02:11:49,040 --> 02:11:50,360 Speaker 26: the day, because that was the thing about it. 2677 02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:52,600 Speaker 14: There was nothing like the OBH. It was just a 2678 02:11:52,760 --> 02:11:53,840 Speaker 14: different level of energy. 2679 02:11:53,920 --> 02:11:56,040 Speaker 26: And I'd been to the frames, I'd been to Flying 2680 02:11:56,080 --> 02:11:59,360 Speaker 26: Funds for years at the u w A refectory and 2681 02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:03,000 Speaker 26: you know, and it was just pandemonium when the Fonds 2682 02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:05,400 Speaker 26: of Willings were playing. But the OBH, do, I say, 2683 02:12:05,680 --> 02:12:08,600 Speaker 26: went to another level. I've never seen misbehavior in an 2684 02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:09,400 Speaker 26: audience like it. 2685 02:12:09,800 --> 02:12:11,720 Speaker 7: Did you ever need the net in front of you? 2686 02:12:11,800 --> 02:12:12,200 Speaker 14: The cage? 2687 02:12:12,240 --> 02:12:12,360 Speaker 18: You know? 2688 02:12:12,840 --> 02:12:16,720 Speaker 26: Blues Brothers for all days we went to the country areas. 2689 02:12:17,320 --> 02:12:19,040 Speaker 26: There were some places in the country we used to 2690 02:12:19,080 --> 02:12:21,720 Speaker 26: think that maybe a fence up the front might be 2691 02:12:21,720 --> 02:12:24,120 Speaker 26: a bit handed. We used to keep barriers at the 2692 02:12:24,160 --> 02:12:26,280 Speaker 26: front of the stage to have you stop people trying 2693 02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:27,880 Speaker 26: to jump on stage, but that never worked. 2694 02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:29,200 Speaker 19: It. 2695 02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:31,840 Speaker 7: Oh, well, you don't want to stuby your head. What 2696 02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:32,480 Speaker 7: you're trying to say. 2697 02:12:32,600 --> 02:12:33,280 Speaker 16: No, it's not good. 2698 02:12:33,680 --> 02:12:36,120 Speaker 26: But yeah, we've been really lucky for thirty ages playing 2699 02:12:36,160 --> 02:12:38,160 Speaker 26: the OBH gig was fantastic, So a lot of the 2700 02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:41,400 Speaker 26: original members came back to perform with the band and 2701 02:12:41,640 --> 02:12:43,320 Speaker 26: on The other aspect of it too, which I thought 2702 02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:47,720 Speaker 26: was lovely, was that some of the other members that 2703 02:12:47,800 --> 02:12:50,480 Speaker 26: created a great foundation back in the nineties and so forth, 2704 02:12:50,520 --> 02:12:53,400 Speaker 26: when we're doing that the Aberdeen every Friday night. 2705 02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:54,680 Speaker 14: I think for twelve and a half. 2706 02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:59,360 Speaker 26: Years we had long standing residencies at the Breakwater's having yeah, 2707 02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:03,320 Speaker 26: with four hundred and fifty one shows there before the 2708 02:13:03,400 --> 02:13:05,800 Speaker 26: original lineup when the break Horder was in the other location. 2709 02:13:05,960 --> 02:13:08,840 Speaker 26: Wasn't it a real Breakwater with Ken and Anne Reid. 2710 02:13:09,400 --> 02:13:11,920 Speaker 26: Keen got to love him his past now, but Ken 2711 02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:15,160 Speaker 26: showed his great support. In fact, Ken was actually I've 2712 02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:18,200 Speaker 26: got to give Ken a lot of credit because nobody 2713 02:13:18,240 --> 02:13:19,920 Speaker 26: wanted to book the Fats Band. There was a time 2714 02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:22,600 Speaker 26: after about ten or twelve years that the phone just 2715 02:13:22,600 --> 02:13:26,120 Speaker 26: stopped ringing, and then Ken gave us an opportunity of 2716 02:13:26,200 --> 02:13:29,600 Speaker 26: playing on a Wednesday Wednesday night at the Breakwater and 2717 02:13:29,680 --> 02:13:32,760 Speaker 26: it went from whatever it was, a couple hundred people 2718 02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:35,920 Speaker 26: to about seven hundred and fifty people every single Wednesday night. 2719 02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:38,960 Speaker 26: And really for all of us back in that generation, 2720 02:13:39,120 --> 02:13:41,920 Speaker 26: that's probably when the Fats Band was working from Wednesday 2721 02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:44,760 Speaker 26: to Sunday. On a Tuesday night, I'd always go and 2722 02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:46,800 Speaker 26: see never Never Acagney's. 2723 02:13:46,400 --> 02:13:49,040 Speaker 16: Right, and that was just that was just the bomb. 2724 02:13:50,360 --> 02:13:52,080 Speaker 26: It was our chance to see a band because we're 2725 02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:54,760 Speaker 26: always working. We couldn't see anymore unless they were multi 2726 02:13:54,840 --> 02:13:57,360 Speaker 26: band lineups, and you get to see everybody else's band, 2727 02:13:58,040 --> 02:14:02,280 Speaker 26: you know, you know playing in the day, those looking 2728 02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:05,360 Speaker 26: bus looking Busters and Yeah Refels, Rippers and there was 2729 02:14:05,400 --> 02:14:08,680 Speaker 26: the plothon rock shows and and they were just incredible. 2730 02:14:08,680 --> 02:14:11,480 Speaker 26: So you catched up with all these other bands literally 2731 02:14:11,520 --> 02:14:14,520 Speaker 26: for months or twice a year in our own environment, 2732 02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:17,600 Speaker 26: which is you know, good and dangerous at the same time. 2733 02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:19,680 Speaker 5: Well, Tuesday night was a big night if you worked 2734 02:14:19,880 --> 02:14:22,000 Speaker 5: in the industry because that was the night that was 2735 02:14:22,080 --> 02:14:22,920 Speaker 5: considered the night off. 2736 02:14:22,920 --> 02:14:25,320 Speaker 7: I remember we used to go to the Underground on 2737 02:14:25,400 --> 02:14:28,680 Speaker 7: the on a Tuesday night round so good. But what 2738 02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:34,040 Speaker 7: a fire trap it was at the Underground. 2739 02:14:34,240 --> 02:14:37,000 Speaker 26: At the Underground when I was working as an actor 2740 02:14:37,000 --> 02:14:39,120 Speaker 26: before I got involved with the Fats band, I was 2741 02:14:39,160 --> 02:14:42,560 Speaker 26: actually a statue in the really in the front cabinet. 2742 02:14:42,560 --> 02:14:43,360 Speaker 14: When he used to walk in. 2743 02:14:44,280 --> 02:14:46,360 Speaker 6: Like you're doing a bit of mine with you a bit, 2744 02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:48,800 Speaker 6: but I'm just doing the statue thing, and then people 2745 02:14:48,840 --> 02:14:52,040 Speaker 6: would walk up and bag the window the windows becomes 2746 02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:55,080 Speaker 6: face like this and I'm going to die in situation. 2747 02:14:55,840 --> 02:14:59,160 Speaker 26: You know, you're sweating profusely because there was no it 2748 02:14:59,280 --> 02:15:00,840 Speaker 26: was held and safety unite me. 2749 02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:04,880 Speaker 6: Absolutely, you can have been a Queen's guard mate. You're 2750 02:15:04,960 --> 02:15:07,720 Speaker 6: very stoic. How about the faces you see in the 2751 02:15:07,800 --> 02:15:10,680 Speaker 6: crowds over the years. You must see the multi generations show. 2752 02:15:10,760 --> 02:15:11,360 Speaker 14: Oh yeah, you do. 2753 02:15:11,880 --> 02:15:14,840 Speaker 26: And I've got to say, like again, it's just the 2754 02:15:14,960 --> 02:15:18,440 Speaker 26: loyalty and the friendships that we've forged over the years, 2755 02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:20,880 Speaker 26: not just in the band, but with the fans. It's 2756 02:15:20,920 --> 02:15:23,800 Speaker 26: been incredible and like you know that they come up 2757 02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:27,000 Speaker 26: and they remind you of things that you've have forgotten about. 2758 02:15:27,440 --> 02:15:28,760 Speaker 14: Do you remember this gig and you sort of go, 2759 02:15:28,840 --> 02:15:30,400 Speaker 14: oh my god, I can remember that, you know. 2760 02:15:30,560 --> 02:15:32,760 Speaker 26: So they've obviously had a great time, and there's people 2761 02:15:32,800 --> 02:15:34,520 Speaker 26: coming back now that probably haven't seen the band, Like 2762 02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:37,760 Speaker 26: they've gone away, they've had their kids, you know, divorced, 2763 02:15:38,240 --> 02:15:40,800 Speaker 26: you know or whatever, ye oh whatever it is. These 2764 02:15:40,920 --> 02:15:45,320 Speaker 26: days you know chase sexualities absolutely, you know, they come 2765 02:15:45,400 --> 02:15:48,160 Speaker 26: back and they go you know, I remember these days, 2766 02:15:48,200 --> 02:15:49,800 Speaker 26: and they tell you stories and stuff and it's just 2767 02:15:49,880 --> 02:15:55,440 Speaker 26: really lovely. Really, you know, I'm in a blessed situation really, 2768 02:15:55,480 --> 02:15:56,760 Speaker 26: and a lot of the other people that you've had 2769 02:15:56,800 --> 02:15:58,680 Speaker 26: on air, we'll tell you the same thing. I mean, 2770 02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:00,800 Speaker 26: you know, it's a rich treat to be able to 2771 02:16:01,000 --> 02:16:04,160 Speaker 26: do what you loved to do for your entire career. 2772 02:16:04,880 --> 02:16:07,200 Speaker 26: And albeit you know, I do have other bits and 2773 02:16:07,280 --> 02:16:09,200 Speaker 26: pieces like theater and so forth they go and do. 2774 02:16:09,360 --> 02:16:10,960 Speaker 14: But the energy of the Fats band. 2775 02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:13,360 Speaker 26: What I love about the fatspan more than anything being 2776 02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:15,480 Speaker 26: a front man with that band since I started, is 2777 02:16:16,120 --> 02:16:19,320 Speaker 26: is you walk into chaos. It's pandemic, like you don't 2778 02:16:19,320 --> 02:16:22,440 Speaker 26: know what it's just. Look, you don't know what you're 2779 02:16:22,480 --> 02:16:24,000 Speaker 26: going to get each night, and you're just going to 2780 02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:26,240 Speaker 26: deal with it. And you're sure the band's got the 2781 02:16:26,320 --> 02:16:28,360 Speaker 26: songs to play, But it's how you approach the audience 2782 02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:29,640 Speaker 26: and what are you going to try and to vote 2783 02:16:29,640 --> 02:16:32,160 Speaker 26: from the audience, and that sort of game really keeps 2784 02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:34,560 Speaker 26: you on your ties, and that keeps you mentally sharp, 2785 02:16:34,840 --> 02:16:36,600 Speaker 26: and it keeps you pretty physically fit as well. 2786 02:16:36,800 --> 02:16:38,320 Speaker 7: You went to wait, did you ever do any shows 2787 02:16:38,320 --> 02:16:39,080 Speaker 7: at the weight Tavern? 2788 02:16:39,400 --> 02:16:39,720 Speaker 14: I did? 2789 02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:44,039 Speaker 26: I might have been there t having one away, ye, 2790 02:16:45,000 --> 02:16:47,040 Speaker 26: So you know, is it a funny when I was 2791 02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:51,279 Speaker 26: at Uni. I was seeing bands like the Riffs, innocent bystanders. 2792 02:16:52,680 --> 02:16:54,280 Speaker 26: As I said, you know, when I started UNI, I 2793 02:16:54,360 --> 02:16:56,800 Speaker 26: was also going over to u w WA because most 2794 02:16:56,800 --> 02:16:59,879 Speaker 26: of my mates from Trinity went to u w AA 2795 02:17:00,520 --> 02:17:04,000 Speaker 26: and we'd see bands like that. Itchy Feet, flying fonds 2796 02:17:04,040 --> 02:17:06,680 Speaker 26: of Relis was just like if you went and saw 2797 02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:08,400 Speaker 26: the fonds all his back, it was like an epiphany. 2798 02:17:08,879 --> 02:17:09,040 Speaker 22: It was. 2799 02:17:09,320 --> 02:17:11,160 Speaker 14: It was like a religious yeather, right. 2800 02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:11,800 Speaker 25: You know. 2801 02:17:11,959 --> 02:17:14,240 Speaker 26: I mean, Elf would call out dead ads and then 2802 02:17:14,320 --> 02:17:17,360 Speaker 26: you've got eleven hundred people on their backs doing good 2803 02:17:17,400 --> 02:17:20,160 Speaker 26: as it was the most ludicrous thing you'd ever seen 2804 02:17:20,200 --> 02:17:22,560 Speaker 26: in your life. But it was hilarious. But I've never 2805 02:17:22,600 --> 02:17:25,520 Speaker 26: seen a band motivated crowd like it. But in those days, 2806 02:17:25,560 --> 02:17:29,680 Speaker 26: I mean the frames, the jets, I mean, you know, 2807 02:17:30,400 --> 02:17:34,600 Speaker 26: I'm going to embarrass myself with that. And they were 2808 02:17:35,000 --> 02:17:37,720 Speaker 26: frost amazing band, you know what I mean. And they 2809 02:17:37,760 --> 02:17:40,040 Speaker 26: were really good at their craft. They were great musicians. 2810 02:17:40,440 --> 02:17:43,080 Speaker 26: And isn't it funny that you know, even I should 2811 02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:47,840 Speaker 26: mention absolutely they put a number they did and look 2812 02:17:47,879 --> 02:17:52,160 Speaker 26: at most of our industry currently the leading band so 2813 02:17:52,320 --> 02:17:55,440 Speaker 26: like ian Fork Dave Thomas. Ian Fork was in tour 2814 02:17:55,600 --> 02:17:58,360 Speaker 26: Tourer back in the Day and Dave Thomas. Yeah, Dave 2815 02:17:58,440 --> 02:18:01,200 Speaker 26: Thomas is with the jab Babies when they first formed 2816 02:18:01,560 --> 02:18:06,640 Speaker 26: Jess Law in eighties. Underground is from you know, Jay Babies. 2817 02:18:07,160 --> 02:18:10,640 Speaker 26: Todd's still working, Mark donod Hue from that, The Frames 2818 02:18:10,800 --> 02:18:14,680 Speaker 26: is playing with Todd. Now Billy Jermaine that was playing 2819 02:18:14,760 --> 02:18:17,480 Speaker 26: drums at me for several years, he's playing with Todd Steel. 2820 02:18:17,800 --> 02:18:20,160 Speaker 26: John Calabresi played in The Fast Man. He's also playing 2821 02:18:20,200 --> 02:18:23,640 Speaker 26: with Todd. I mean that generation of musicians, they just 2822 02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:27,120 Speaker 26: know how to apply their craft to an audience and 2823 02:18:27,240 --> 02:18:31,160 Speaker 26: it's still evident today. And I'm sixty. I'm sure some 2824 02:18:31,280 --> 02:18:33,560 Speaker 26: of these guys are older and they're still dishing it 2825 02:18:33,680 --> 02:18:35,439 Speaker 26: up and it's just marvelous. 2826 02:18:35,520 --> 02:18:35,680 Speaker 14: You know. 2827 02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:37,760 Speaker 6: I took about those big venues, big beer barns. I 2828 02:18:37,840 --> 02:18:40,920 Speaker 6: do remember one one Sunday walking into the overflow with 2829 02:18:41,160 --> 02:18:43,560 Speaker 6: my mate and down there in Italou and be Capri 2830 02:18:43,640 --> 02:18:45,040 Speaker 6: were on stage. And I've said this to Lesa a 2831 02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:47,560 Speaker 6: few times, it's fortnite. There were I reckon, six hundred 2832 02:18:47,600 --> 02:18:49,959 Speaker 6: girls down the front and the jealous boyfriends are all 2833 02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:52,080 Speaker 6: at the bat the back. But the atmosphere, in the 2834 02:18:52,200 --> 02:18:55,680 Speaker 6: atmosphere was just electric because the great big beer barn. 2835 02:18:55,720 --> 02:18:57,720 Speaker 6: But it was it was he he was so full 2836 02:18:57,920 --> 02:19:00,960 Speaker 6: was yeah, a look at those guys were like a 2837 02:19:01,080 --> 02:19:02,279 Speaker 6: class models. 2838 02:19:01,959 --> 02:19:05,280 Speaker 14: On you know what I mean? 2839 02:19:05,959 --> 02:19:08,200 Speaker 26: Like me, I was Adeen Stone and didn't give us 2840 02:19:08,200 --> 02:19:10,480 Speaker 26: stuff looking great for an audience. It was just like 2841 02:19:10,879 --> 02:19:13,040 Speaker 26: slim gym and I just looked the complete opposite. But 2842 02:19:13,120 --> 02:19:16,440 Speaker 26: that was my nickname at the school. That's where it 2843 02:19:16,480 --> 02:19:19,160 Speaker 26: came from. So slim Fats you know Bill Hadley in 2844 02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:21,720 Speaker 26: the comments. There was other bands around that time that 2845 02:19:21,800 --> 02:19:25,280 Speaker 26: were doing really funny things with their names, like Jimmynastics 2846 02:19:25,320 --> 02:19:27,160 Speaker 26: and the crash Matsyah. 2847 02:19:27,200 --> 02:19:28,760 Speaker 14: I mean I thought that. I thought that was genius. 2848 02:19:29,000 --> 02:19:31,080 Speaker 26: And I shared a house with a guy that was 2849 02:19:31,120 --> 02:19:34,480 Speaker 26: a drummer for Elroy Flicker and the Fits, and I 2850 02:19:34,600 --> 02:19:37,760 Speaker 26: was just an incredible band. They recorded their album in 2851 02:19:37,879 --> 02:19:41,680 Speaker 26: our flat in Kings Park Road was Perth, just incredible. 2852 02:19:41,680 --> 02:19:43,240 Speaker 6: I thought I Spit on your Gravy was a good one. 2853 02:19:43,280 --> 02:19:44,960 Speaker 6: I think it was an helping put on your gravy. 2854 02:19:49,400 --> 02:19:49,560 Speaker 19: Thanks. 2855 02:19:49,600 --> 02:19:51,040 Speaker 14: We used to get away with me. 2856 02:19:51,120 --> 02:19:53,680 Speaker 26: I was doing a version of Gloria where I changed 2857 02:19:53,680 --> 02:19:56,960 Speaker 26: all the lyrics and made it Maria. But it was 2858 02:19:57,120 --> 02:19:59,680 Speaker 26: it was sung by like a very pissed off Italian husband. 2859 02:20:00,760 --> 02:20:01,680 Speaker 2: The name was em. 2860 02:20:04,560 --> 02:20:09,320 Speaker 5: Remember a band called Snake People. They used to do 2861 02:20:09,760 --> 02:20:11,760 Speaker 5: Sunday session at the Queens when I worked at the Queen. 2862 02:20:11,840 --> 02:20:16,359 Speaker 26: They also played the Brewerial House right shilling highways. 2863 02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:20,280 Speaker 7: The keyboarders used to do a great recorder solo in 2864 02:20:20,400 --> 02:20:22,840 Speaker 7: wild Thing You're kidding It was always. 2865 02:20:24,360 --> 02:20:26,160 Speaker 26: But we used to see them as well because they 2866 02:20:26,200 --> 02:20:29,200 Speaker 26: were great guys. John Roberts was in that band as well, 2867 02:20:29,240 --> 02:20:32,640 Speaker 26: and John ended up starting R and R Music, which 2868 02:20:32,680 --> 02:20:34,680 Speaker 26: has now become a hen House rehearsals. 2869 02:20:34,879 --> 02:20:39,360 Speaker 7: Oh yes, scope. 2870 02:20:39,440 --> 02:20:40,360 Speaker 14: So it was originally built. 2871 02:20:40,360 --> 02:20:42,240 Speaker 26: In fact, I actually laid some ricks there and actually 2872 02:20:42,480 --> 02:20:44,880 Speaker 26: for a couple of days to help out building the 2873 02:20:44,920 --> 02:20:45,600 Speaker 26: place first. 2874 02:20:48,600 --> 02:20:50,720 Speaker 6: A couple of days laboring was good, good for the soul. 2875 02:20:50,800 --> 02:20:52,879 Speaker 6: I've for many years I've bumped into you them boast 2876 02:20:52,959 --> 02:20:56,320 Speaker 6: in the Telethon green room. Oh yeah, and so many, 2877 02:20:56,640 --> 02:20:57,600 Speaker 6: so many gigs for Telethon. 2878 02:20:58,720 --> 02:20:58,840 Speaker 14: Well. 2879 02:20:58,879 --> 02:21:01,880 Speaker 26: I started the YEA fast band first appeared just after 2880 02:21:01,959 --> 02:21:05,440 Speaker 26: we started, I think in October nineteen eighty six, and 2881 02:21:06,400 --> 02:21:08,080 Speaker 26: something like coup Us three or four in the morning, 2882 02:21:08,320 --> 02:21:10,800 Speaker 26: one of those special time slots, And then a couple 2883 02:21:10,840 --> 02:21:13,800 Speaker 26: of years went on. I think Peter Dean approached me 2884 02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:16,960 Speaker 26: at the end of one of the shifts that I 2885 02:21:17,080 --> 02:21:18,920 Speaker 26: was working on, and I think I was doing the 2886 02:21:18,959 --> 02:21:20,560 Speaker 26: phone room obviously because nobody else. 2887 02:21:20,400 --> 02:21:20,960 Speaker 14: Wanted the job. 2888 02:21:21,440 --> 02:21:23,560 Speaker 26: And Peter said, look, you know, I'm getting too old. 2889 02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:25,760 Speaker 26: I think I want to move on stick with the 2890 02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:28,840 Speaker 26: Dave routine. I'm too old to the late nights. That 2891 02:21:28,959 --> 02:21:30,840 Speaker 26: you consider coming in and doing the late nights And 2892 02:21:30,879 --> 02:21:33,080 Speaker 26: I said sure, And then I sort of got involved 2893 02:21:33,080 --> 02:21:37,119 Speaker 26: with John Crilly and Gloria Fryer and I started producing 2894 02:21:37,959 --> 02:21:41,200 Speaker 26: and hosting the midnight to dawn thing for I think 2895 02:21:41,240 --> 02:21:42,879 Speaker 26: it was twenty plus twenty two to. 2896 02:21:42,879 --> 02:21:43,720 Speaker 14: Twenty four years. 2897 02:21:44,240 --> 02:21:46,760 Speaker 26: But I was also the musical coordinator for telethhone for 2898 02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:49,320 Speaker 26: a number of years as well, especially in that transition 2899 02:21:49,440 --> 02:21:53,840 Speaker 26: from the studio to PCC. Yeah, go from the Hill base, 2900 02:21:54,000 --> 02:21:57,200 Speaker 26: coming from that two hundred strong audience to two thousand, 2901 02:21:57,840 --> 02:21:59,640 Speaker 26: and then having this sort of structure of the show 2902 02:21:59,680 --> 02:22:02,720 Speaker 26: a coly So that was an interesting way of doing 2903 02:22:02,760 --> 02:22:07,280 Speaker 26: it and taking your live music knowledge to telephone and 2904 02:22:07,320 --> 02:22:08,400 Speaker 26: making it work for the PC. 2905 02:22:08,920 --> 02:22:10,160 Speaker 14: Yeah, it was a good time. 2906 02:22:10,640 --> 02:22:12,080 Speaker 7: Are you coming up to the Big four to Oh 2907 02:22:12,840 --> 02:22:14,480 Speaker 7: really it was eighty six. 2908 02:22:14,720 --> 02:22:19,040 Speaker 14: Yeah, we've already booked at the ABHH. Yeah, get absolutely. 2909 02:22:19,280 --> 02:22:21,040 Speaker 7: They were instilling windscreen on the inside. 2910 02:22:22,360 --> 02:22:24,480 Speaker 26: Thes is that we're playing out the back now, because 2911 02:22:24,600 --> 02:22:27,240 Speaker 26: even though that we're playing in now has been so renovated, 2912 02:22:27,280 --> 02:22:30,240 Speaker 26: we would go in there and harm there floring. 2913 02:22:30,360 --> 02:22:31,440 Speaker 7: It's quite a fit out, isn't it. 2914 02:22:31,520 --> 02:22:31,680 Speaker 14: Yeah. 2915 02:22:31,720 --> 02:22:33,440 Speaker 26: So we're in the Big Garden, which is where we 2916 02:22:33,480 --> 02:22:36,000 Speaker 26: did the Readingion shows last year. So we are booked 2917 02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:39,480 Speaker 26: to play at the ABH that everybody is going to be. 2918 02:22:39,720 --> 02:22:41,080 Speaker 7: Oh my god, you keep us posted. 2919 02:22:41,560 --> 02:22:44,440 Speaker 26: Yeah, but forty anything, you know, just to be able 2920 02:22:44,480 --> 02:22:47,320 Speaker 26: to achieve forty and then stage with people that honestly, 2921 02:22:47,760 --> 02:22:50,959 Speaker 26: I mean I walked on stage last year, looked across 2922 02:22:51,000 --> 02:22:53,000 Speaker 26: to my left to see the girls doing their their 2923 02:22:53,120 --> 02:22:55,480 Speaker 26: routines on the right, see the guys doing what that 2924 02:22:55,600 --> 02:22:59,360 Speaker 26: we're doing, and I'm tearing up because it's just wonderful 2925 02:22:59,440 --> 02:23:01,480 Speaker 26: to think that after all these years, we're still able 2926 02:23:01,560 --> 02:23:05,080 Speaker 26: to do it and the energy is apparent, like you know, 2927 02:23:05,480 --> 02:23:08,440 Speaker 26: the band gets counted in and the energy is like bang. Yeah, 2928 02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:13,440 Speaker 26: So all the lessons that we've learned, all the the yeah, 2929 02:23:13,520 --> 02:23:15,920 Speaker 26: the driver is still there for all the spirits there. 2930 02:23:15,959 --> 02:23:17,760 Speaker 26: That's probably the best thing about it, and that means 2931 02:23:18,120 --> 02:23:20,200 Speaker 26: that the fortieth will be very very special. 2932 02:23:20,280 --> 02:23:22,000 Speaker 7: We can tell the spirits still there and the drive 2933 02:23:22,080 --> 02:23:23,840 Speaker 7: still there, and we don't want to, but we have 2934 02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:26,760 Speaker 7: to let you go. Yeah, we could probably come from 2935 02:23:26,760 --> 02:23:29,760 Speaker 7: about four weeks and I didn't need at all. 2936 02:23:29,920 --> 02:23:33,280 Speaker 26: I know that might be, but it's certainly going to 2937 02:23:33,280 --> 02:23:37,520 Speaker 26: be intravenous. Strip cast work coffee literally, doctor gurgle. It's 2938 02:23:37,520 --> 02:23:37,800 Speaker 26: all good. 2939 02:23:37,959 --> 02:23:39,959 Speaker 7: I love you guys, doing this so. 2940 02:23:40,120 --> 02:23:43,760 Speaker 5: Lovely to reminisce about those days with you and for you. 2941 02:23:43,959 --> 02:23:46,880 Speaker 5: Those days have not stopped, so we're happy about that. 2942 02:23:47,240 --> 02:23:51,320 Speaker 7: Just a baby mate, good to see. That's so cool 2943 02:23:51,520 --> 02:23:52,160 Speaker 7: you in trouble. 2944 02:23:53,360 --> 02:23:55,879 Speaker 14: We would be seeing a minute work song to twelve 2945 02:23:55,920 --> 02:23:57,879 Speaker 14: hundred people, the men at work to begin on the road. 2946 02:23:57,959 --> 02:23:58,840 Speaker 2: I don't need the people. 2947 02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:03,520 Speaker 6: And this was a wave of Li and Lisa's pub drawl, 2948 02:24:04,160 --> 02:24:06,120 Speaker 6: so much fun, the Perf pub crawl. At least we've 2949 02:24:06,160 --> 02:24:09,200 Speaker 6: been promising something a little bit special today. We have 2950 02:24:09,320 --> 02:24:11,400 Speaker 6: because a lot of people have been asking the artists. 2951 02:24:11,400 --> 02:24:13,680 Speaker 6: People have been asking the most for Dave Warner from 2952 02:24:13,680 --> 02:24:16,280 Speaker 6: the Suburbs. We spoke to Dave and loaded Dice are 2953 02:24:16,360 --> 02:24:18,760 Speaker 6: Lettend from band Not only do we have the man 2954 02:24:18,879 --> 02:24:22,400 Speaker 6: with the backbeat, Dave. Dave is the mighty drummer, but 2955 02:24:22,520 --> 02:24:25,040 Speaker 6: he's brought in the rock star himself right up front, 2956 02:24:25,080 --> 02:24:25,560 Speaker 6: Dick Haynes. 2957 02:24:25,800 --> 02:24:29,199 Speaker 7: Welcome boys for Reloaded Dice. Goodness yo, hi guys. 2958 02:24:29,440 --> 02:24:30,000 Speaker 14: For joining him. 2959 02:24:30,400 --> 02:24:32,360 Speaker 5: Have you to come and yes, exactly join our pub 2960 02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:35,920 Speaker 5: crawl now Loaded Dice formed in nineteen seventy four. 2961 02:24:36,440 --> 02:24:38,800 Speaker 7: You'd be one of the earliest that we've spoken to. 2962 02:24:39,120 --> 02:24:40,359 Speaker 7: How did you guys meet. 2963 02:24:41,360 --> 02:24:47,840 Speaker 19: Well, Dave answered an interview. Sorry, man answered nad and 2964 02:24:48,280 --> 02:24:51,160 Speaker 19: for a drummer, and as I recall, we had a 2965 02:24:51,200 --> 02:24:53,400 Speaker 19: few good drummers to come up. Dave wasn't the best 2966 02:24:54,959 --> 02:24:59,440 Speaker 19: right here, too late, so but Dave wasn't the best. 2967 02:24:59,480 --> 02:25:02,400 Speaker 19: But we we had a manager the band to be 2968 02:25:02,480 --> 02:25:04,959 Speaker 19: game for about two months and we had the benefit 2969 02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:06,600 Speaker 19: of having a manager, and he said, we'll be able 2970 02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:10,240 Speaker 19: to control this guy. And they just told me yesterday 2971 02:25:10,360 --> 02:25:12,080 Speaker 19: the only new one beat, and that happened to be 2972 02:25:12,120 --> 02:25:14,800 Speaker 19: the beat which agreed with all of all of our songs. 2973 02:25:15,600 --> 02:25:18,800 Speaker 8: I just learned to count to twelve bar so long 2974 02:25:18,840 --> 02:25:21,240 Speaker 8: as I didn't lose count, I could do it. And 2975 02:25:21,360 --> 02:25:23,560 Speaker 8: we did a Beatles song, and we did some little 2976 02:25:23,680 --> 02:25:25,720 Speaker 8: Richard and I'm going God, I actually play three songs 2977 02:25:26,120 --> 02:25:29,480 Speaker 8: Chuck Berry all. So we went along. I answered the 2978 02:25:29,520 --> 02:25:32,520 Speaker 8: ad out of the Sunday Times, and I just bought 2979 02:25:32,560 --> 02:25:35,520 Speaker 8: this monster drum kit. Couldn't play it. Got there late 2980 02:25:35,560 --> 02:25:37,800 Speaker 8: because it was south of the river, didn't know where 2981 02:25:37,840 --> 02:25:40,280 Speaker 8: I was going. Found the place seven o'clock at night. 2982 02:25:41,840 --> 02:25:44,840 Speaker 8: I was the first one off set it up, started playing, 2983 02:25:44,920 --> 02:25:47,040 Speaker 8: and then I said, can I just stick around and 2984 02:25:47,440 --> 02:25:49,440 Speaker 8: see what the competition's likely? 2985 02:25:49,560 --> 02:25:50,320 Speaker 14: Just got my license. 2986 02:25:50,440 --> 02:25:54,560 Speaker 7: I sat around and I watched all these drummers and dicken, one. 2987 02:25:54,440 --> 02:25:57,600 Speaker 19: Of who was James Baker, who ended up in the 2988 02:26:00,680 --> 02:26:04,520 Speaker 19: Unluckily for him, or maybe luckily for his drum kid 2989 02:26:04,600 --> 02:26:07,120 Speaker 19: fell apart while he was doing these. He got up 2990 02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:11,039 Speaker 19: in one lot. He came in looking like Brian Jones. Yeah, yes, yeah, 2991 02:26:11,080 --> 02:26:14,240 Speaker 19: he had a look that. Yeah, his face was all 2992 02:26:14,360 --> 02:26:17,240 Speaker 19: in place. Yeah way back then, oh wow. Only ever 2993 02:26:17,320 --> 02:26:18,360 Speaker 19: found out later on. 2994 02:26:19,080 --> 02:26:22,040 Speaker 8: That they got me to join the band, and then 2995 02:26:22,200 --> 02:26:25,879 Speaker 8: because they wanted to mold me into playing more twelve. 2996 02:26:25,640 --> 02:26:26,600 Speaker 7: Bars as we went on. 2997 02:26:27,080 --> 02:26:28,959 Speaker 19: So we never got there day, No, we. 2998 02:26:29,040 --> 02:26:31,280 Speaker 8: Never got there, just kept we kept just playing twelve 2999 02:26:31,320 --> 02:26:32,280 Speaker 8: bars most of our lives. 3000 02:26:32,600 --> 02:26:34,320 Speaker 7: So they saw you someone that could influence and you 3001 02:26:34,400 --> 02:26:35,039 Speaker 7: were malleable. 3002 02:26:35,240 --> 02:26:35,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 3003 02:26:35,480 --> 02:26:37,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, I was just sitting there and I watched the 3004 02:26:37,879 --> 02:26:41,800 Speaker 8: other drummers, and then Tony Fitzgiven and Dick came up 3005 02:26:41,800 --> 02:26:43,720 Speaker 8: to me and said what do you think? And I said, well, 3006 02:26:43,760 --> 02:26:46,000 Speaker 8: these are the three guys I reckon. And then they 3007 02:26:46,040 --> 02:26:47,600 Speaker 8: walked away and they came back and said do you 3008 02:26:47,680 --> 02:26:49,600 Speaker 8: want the gig? And I went okay, great. You know, 3009 02:26:49,680 --> 02:26:53,880 Speaker 8: because I'd started a band when I was about fifteen 3010 02:26:53,920 --> 02:26:56,000 Speaker 8: and got my dad to drive me around the hotels 3011 02:26:56,040 --> 02:26:59,959 Speaker 8: and started whipping Wow. So yeah, so that was good fun. 3012 02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:02,600 Speaker 8: It was some and the rest is history. As they say, 3013 02:27:03,200 --> 02:27:03,840 Speaker 8: I survived. 3014 02:27:04,480 --> 02:27:06,800 Speaker 5: Like most of the bands at that time, he started 3015 02:27:06,840 --> 02:27:09,160 Speaker 5: out doing covers because it was for better it was 3016 02:27:09,240 --> 02:27:11,880 Speaker 5: it was what people wanted, and you guys did a 3017 02:27:11,920 --> 02:27:15,440 Speaker 5: lot of Beatles were well known for the Beatles. 3018 02:27:15,640 --> 02:27:19,760 Speaker 19: The story behind that was that we always had another 3019 02:27:19,840 --> 02:27:23,280 Speaker 19: person in the band who was better than us, and 3020 02:27:23,640 --> 02:27:26,800 Speaker 19: from the light through we got a guy. First of all, 3021 02:27:26,920 --> 02:27:31,280 Speaker 19: we had this Vietnamese guy playing with us Min Tran him, 3022 02:27:32,000 --> 02:27:35,880 Speaker 19: and he was replaced by a guy called Mark Weeks, 3023 02:27:35,920 --> 02:27:38,600 Speaker 19: who was a sort of concert pianis ended up playing 3024 02:27:38,680 --> 02:27:42,760 Speaker 19: for the ABC doing comedy stuff. But for us he 3025 02:27:42,920 --> 02:27:45,600 Speaker 19: was fantastic because he could play every Beatles song and 3026 02:27:45,800 --> 02:27:48,720 Speaker 19: he knew the harmonies to them all. We knew nothing 3027 02:27:48,760 --> 02:27:53,119 Speaker 19: about anything, and so as a result of him being 3028 02:27:53,120 --> 02:27:55,120 Speaker 19: in the band, we sort of learned very quickly and. 3029 02:27:55,120 --> 02:27:59,040 Speaker 8: We were able to do Beatles songs and you know, complicated, stuffy. 3030 02:27:59,480 --> 02:28:01,600 Speaker 8: When Dick put the ad in the paper, did you 3031 02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:05,640 Speaker 8: have Phil? Then yeah, Phil was yeah, filling things sort 3032 02:28:05,640 --> 02:28:10,600 Speaker 8: of started. Yeah, Phil will fill the Wolfman unfortunately is 3033 02:28:10,640 --> 02:28:13,920 Speaker 8: no longer with us. You know, they started the band 3034 02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:16,800 Speaker 8: and then I think Phil said Dick, we'll look. You know, 3035 02:28:17,000 --> 02:28:19,560 Speaker 8: Dick was just singing and Phil said, look, I'll join 3036 02:28:19,600 --> 02:28:21,240 Speaker 8: the band if we get a bass player. So Dick 3037 02:28:21,320 --> 02:28:23,920 Speaker 8: went out and bought a base, and looking himself, had 3038 02:28:23,959 --> 02:28:26,400 Speaker 8: a play base. Work on those four strings or yeah, 3039 02:28:26,600 --> 02:28:32,320 Speaker 8: well still can't play. I just reckon it's fat fingers. Okay, butays, 3040 02:28:32,320 --> 02:28:33,800 Speaker 8: what about the venues? I mean a lot of them 3041 02:28:33,800 --> 02:28:37,960 Speaker 8: don't exist anymore, but were the venues? We started off 3042 02:28:38,040 --> 02:28:42,360 Speaker 8: at Steve's the next ready made crowd, Thank god for that. 3043 02:28:43,240 --> 02:28:47,320 Speaker 8: Steve was huge shoes, that's what we want to drink. Yeah, 3044 02:28:47,320 --> 02:28:49,440 Speaker 8: we were you know, we tried to get him to 3045 02:28:49,480 --> 02:28:51,000 Speaker 8: help us load the giving, but they wouldn't have it. 3046 02:28:51,040 --> 02:28:55,039 Speaker 8: But busy drinking, looking at the river, looking at the river. 3047 02:28:55,160 --> 02:28:58,960 Speaker 8: So after that we went to venues like the Hotel Orient. 3048 02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:01,800 Speaker 8: You know that was a bit rough around there because 3049 02:29:01,840 --> 02:29:02,920 Speaker 8: that was in Freeman. 3050 02:29:04,720 --> 02:29:08,760 Speaker 5: Became a Japanese restaurant, did it I recall having there's 3051 02:29:08,959 --> 02:29:09,720 Speaker 5: Japanese there? 3052 02:29:10,080 --> 02:29:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 3053 02:29:10,560 --> 02:29:12,640 Speaker 7: Of course you had coles across the riding and you 3054 02:29:12,680 --> 02:29:13,560 Speaker 7: didn't want to go in there. 3055 02:29:13,959 --> 02:29:14,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 3056 02:29:14,160 --> 02:29:16,040 Speaker 8: And then if you were really game, you'd go to 3057 02:29:16,160 --> 02:29:19,920 Speaker 8: Tarantower's around as long as you took security with you, 3058 02:29:20,440 --> 02:29:21,959 Speaker 8: just in case, just in case. 3059 02:29:22,440 --> 02:29:25,039 Speaker 7: So there was a great venue of thea. 3060 02:29:25,840 --> 02:29:30,520 Speaker 19: You mentioned the covers. There was a period there. You're 3061 02:29:30,600 --> 02:29:32,760 Speaker 19: right about the covers that just that all the bands 3062 02:29:32,800 --> 02:29:38,240 Speaker 19: were encoverasab and the period, which was really very productive 3063 02:29:38,280 --> 02:29:42,120 Speaker 19: in a way, was still doing covers. Notwithstanding was down 3064 02:29:42,120 --> 02:29:45,560 Speaker 19: to Alberts Tavern, which was a downstairs and you had 3065 02:29:45,600 --> 02:29:49,320 Speaker 19: to go down down flight of stairs. And then with 3066 02:29:49,520 --> 02:29:53,040 Speaker 19: albert Tavern, the bands were really coversed. But there was 3067 02:29:53,080 --> 02:29:59,000 Speaker 19: one duck suit was a band sheriff the Elks, but 3068 02:29:59,160 --> 02:30:01,160 Speaker 19: they were but the covers they were doing were really 3069 02:30:01,200 --> 02:30:02,960 Speaker 19: interesting so you go and watch a band and you 3070 02:30:03,160 --> 02:30:05,760 Speaker 19: think to yourself, like, I've never heard this stuff, and 3071 02:30:05,800 --> 02:30:08,960 Speaker 19: then switch you on to something. So Sheriff had Bernie 3072 02:30:09,040 --> 02:30:15,920 Speaker 19: Lynch in them, and dust Soup had a Manda Vincent, yes, 3073 02:30:16,040 --> 02:30:19,520 Speaker 19: and she ended up in the So there's a number 3074 02:30:19,520 --> 02:30:21,920 Speaker 19: of things in the Elks obviously, Dave Brewer, you're just 3075 02:30:21,959 --> 02:30:25,200 Speaker 19: trying to give us a bit of credibility. No, no, no, 3076 02:30:25,560 --> 02:30:28,120 Speaker 19: just trying to say that it was a rich tapestry 3077 02:30:28,800 --> 02:30:32,800 Speaker 19: of music there where we're all coming down and watching 3078 02:30:32,879 --> 02:30:36,400 Speaker 19: bands like last Chant's Cafe and we're watching the bands 3079 02:30:36,440 --> 02:30:38,640 Speaker 19: and we go, oh god, that's fantastic, and then we 3080 02:30:38,800 --> 02:30:41,280 Speaker 19: go off and buy the albums and get a whole 3081 02:30:41,360 --> 02:30:43,520 Speaker 19: lot of influencers. So it was really really good. 3082 02:30:43,600 --> 02:30:46,480 Speaker 7: Everybody inspired each other to in a way. 3083 02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:47,200 Speaker 14: Yeah, it was. 3084 02:30:47,240 --> 02:30:50,640 Speaker 8: Of course the industry was growing then. Yeah, we sort 3085 02:30:50,640 --> 02:30:52,840 Speaker 8: of started off doing our sort of rock and roll stuff. 3086 02:30:52,879 --> 02:30:57,240 Speaker 8: You had your bands like Clockwork, Clockwork Strawberry playing at 3087 02:30:57,240 --> 02:30:58,480 Speaker 8: the Buragoon. 3088 02:30:58,040 --> 02:30:59,400 Speaker 7: And sounds like a psychedelic band. 3089 02:30:59,520 --> 02:31:00,200 Speaker 19: Yeah, was. 3090 02:31:00,240 --> 02:31:02,959 Speaker 8: They did Dooby Bruthers stuff. I love that Hamond organ 3091 02:31:03,040 --> 02:31:05,760 Speaker 8: sound on. So when I was underage, because I was 3092 02:31:05,840 --> 02:31:07,400 Speaker 8: quite tall, I used to be able to get in. 3093 02:31:07,840 --> 02:31:09,760 Speaker 8: But in those days it was you know, you were 3094 02:31:10,040 --> 02:31:13,080 Speaker 8: what do you call them platforms? Yeah, bel bottom pants 3095 02:31:13,120 --> 02:31:14,720 Speaker 8: and I looked about seven foot. 3096 02:31:15,520 --> 02:31:16,440 Speaker 7: Could have worn those today. 3097 02:31:16,720 --> 02:31:16,920 Speaker 15: Yeah. 3098 02:31:17,080 --> 02:31:17,280 Speaker 9: Yeah. 3099 02:31:17,440 --> 02:31:18,440 Speaker 7: So we'd go in. 3100 02:31:18,520 --> 02:31:22,120 Speaker 8: Into the Buragoon Hotel and I watched clockwork Strawby I 3101 02:31:22,160 --> 02:31:23,800 Speaker 8: think it was called Mayby doing all this doobie stuff. 3102 02:31:23,879 --> 02:31:25,119 Speaker 7: Love that hamm and sound. 3103 02:31:25,280 --> 02:31:25,400 Speaker 14: You know. 3104 02:31:25,520 --> 02:31:29,000 Speaker 8: So there's lots of venues that are unfortunately gone. Yes, 3105 02:31:29,879 --> 02:31:32,440 Speaker 8: most of them are gone, but I'm sure our listeners 3106 02:31:32,480 --> 02:31:37,119 Speaker 8: will remember one of those places we've met going on, hasn't, Yeah. 3107 02:31:37,000 --> 02:31:41,320 Speaker 7: Which is why we're here. Yeah, tell us about the Dicets. 3108 02:31:42,080 --> 02:31:43,360 Speaker 7: The Dicets we had. 3109 02:31:43,720 --> 02:31:47,320 Speaker 8: We had a lot of hardcore followers, but the Dicets 3110 02:31:47,520 --> 02:31:51,879 Speaker 8: and Julie Linda better mention than Michelle a few others there. 3111 02:31:52,200 --> 02:31:55,360 Speaker 8: They came to every gig and we were working six 3112 02:31:55,480 --> 02:31:57,920 Speaker 8: days a week and then we went we started a 3113 02:31:58,040 --> 02:32:02,320 Speaker 8: Monday at the Civic there's another event. And even if 3114 02:32:02,360 --> 02:32:04,280 Speaker 8: we had private shows, the girls just say can we 3115 02:32:04,360 --> 02:32:05,879 Speaker 8: come along and we get them in the back door 3116 02:32:05,959 --> 02:32:07,800 Speaker 8: and they were just very supportive. 3117 02:32:08,280 --> 02:32:10,199 Speaker 19: One of the things, yeah, one of the things about 3118 02:32:11,520 --> 02:32:15,240 Speaker 19: which was amazing. On reflection was that I reckon the 3119 02:32:15,320 --> 02:32:18,160 Speaker 19: girls used to have a half life of about two 3120 02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:20,280 Speaker 19: years in a way, so they just go all out. 3121 02:32:20,400 --> 02:32:23,400 Speaker 19: So you'd get a fan, say, and they would turn 3122 02:32:23,520 --> 02:32:27,879 Speaker 19: up every day every night, and you know sometimes it's 3123 02:32:27,959 --> 02:32:30,840 Speaker 19: like six six nights, seven nights and they turn up. 3124 02:32:30,879 --> 02:32:32,880 Speaker 19: But events did they sort of wear out. But the 3125 02:32:32,959 --> 02:32:36,360 Speaker 19: reason why they wear out, it's not because the band 3126 02:32:36,400 --> 02:32:37,480 Speaker 19: had been through them at all. 3127 02:32:37,640 --> 02:32:41,560 Speaker 7: It was because we know, let me do that. 3128 02:32:42,160 --> 02:32:47,480 Speaker 19: Because because of the style of their life up till 3129 02:32:47,640 --> 02:32:49,160 Speaker 19: three in the morning and then they. 3130 02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:50,720 Speaker 7: Were five or six nights away. 3131 02:32:52,000 --> 02:32:54,520 Speaker 8: And then getting up and going to work. Yeah, yeah, 3132 02:32:56,120 --> 02:32:58,160 Speaker 8: I remember. I've been listening to a lot of the 3133 02:32:58,240 --> 02:33:02,160 Speaker 8: interviews because I quite fascinating. And I heard Alan Simpson 3134 02:33:02,240 --> 02:33:04,760 Speaker 8: the other day mentioned that there was a lot of 3135 02:33:04,879 --> 02:33:08,119 Speaker 8: fun and ferrality playing onto the car park well as 3136 02:33:08,320 --> 02:33:11,840 Speaker 8: far as Loaded Dice guys, particularly Dick and myself, we 3137 02:33:11,959 --> 02:33:12,879 Speaker 8: went to the car park. 3138 02:33:13,160 --> 02:33:14,800 Speaker 7: When we went to the car park, we just put 3139 02:33:14,840 --> 02:33:15,240 Speaker 7: the keys in. 3140 02:33:15,240 --> 02:33:21,640 Speaker 8: The car and went to Bernie's Tonie's Stamburger Hill and 3141 02:33:21,720 --> 02:33:23,920 Speaker 8: then we had the band house down in Lighton and 3142 02:33:23,959 --> 02:33:26,240 Speaker 8: there was a neat each caravan and then they ought 3143 02:33:26,280 --> 02:33:28,320 Speaker 8: his big blue Nail and sign on the top, and 3144 02:33:28,920 --> 02:33:30,680 Speaker 8: we used to know the ladies quite well. And in 3145 02:33:30,720 --> 02:33:32,480 Speaker 8: the end they used to let me make my own milkshakes, 3146 02:33:32,520 --> 02:33:35,880 Speaker 8: which was great. So while some other bands were having fundsies, 3147 02:33:36,040 --> 02:33:39,080 Speaker 8: the rest of us were, yeah, having burgers saving Ernie. 3148 02:33:39,480 --> 02:33:44,400 Speaker 6: I love the dice out so forty five years before Swifties. Yeah, David, Yeah, 3149 02:33:44,400 --> 02:33:46,360 Speaker 6: I want to know because I used to when I 3150 02:33:46,400 --> 02:33:48,680 Speaker 6: was living in Merriton. I love seeing Dick and the Dames. 3151 02:33:48,680 --> 02:33:51,120 Speaker 6: So this gentleman here on a Sunday night down at 3152 02:33:51,280 --> 02:33:54,080 Speaker 6: the Herdies and I walked to the car afterwards singing 3153 02:33:54,160 --> 02:33:56,760 Speaker 6: Rhythm of Life. Was Dick Haynes, always a rat bag 3154 02:33:56,959 --> 02:33:59,480 Speaker 6: that didn't start really early because some of the things he'd. 3155 02:33:59,360 --> 02:34:01,160 Speaker 7: Say on stage would be cracking up for the rest 3156 02:34:01,160 --> 02:34:01,520 Speaker 7: of their week. 3157 02:34:01,600 --> 02:34:04,000 Speaker 8: Well, the great thing about our stage stuff was that 3158 02:34:04,160 --> 02:34:06,640 Speaker 8: Dick would set up a situation and then this voice 3159 02:34:06,680 --> 02:34:08,880 Speaker 8: from the back. Normally me would finish it off with 3160 02:34:08,920 --> 02:34:12,600 Speaker 8: a one liner and people just say, oh, you know, 3161 02:34:12,720 --> 02:34:14,600 Speaker 8: do you rehearse that stuff? And I said, I don't 3162 02:34:14,640 --> 02:34:17,000 Speaker 8: even know what song I'm playing next until I get 3163 02:34:17,040 --> 02:34:19,680 Speaker 8: to the ge. So we were playing so much and 3164 02:34:19,800 --> 02:34:24,360 Speaker 8: Dick was so you know ex accountant so organized and 3165 02:34:24,560 --> 02:34:26,760 Speaker 8: settlists were done. We never did the same things in 3166 02:34:26,840 --> 02:34:29,680 Speaker 8: the same order. We were rehearsing from ten o'clock in 3167 02:34:29,720 --> 02:34:33,000 Speaker 8: the morning, doing either originals or carvers, and then we'd 3168 02:34:33,040 --> 02:34:34,520 Speaker 8: go out that night and we'd play them. 3169 02:34:34,920 --> 02:34:38,000 Speaker 7: But this man is one of the best entertainers in 3170 02:34:38,120 --> 02:34:39,520 Speaker 7: the city to this day. 3171 02:34:39,720 --> 02:34:42,640 Speaker 8: And I'm sure as Dave Warner and a few others 3172 02:34:42,680 --> 02:34:45,960 Speaker 8: have mentioned that, you know, without having this man on 3173 02:34:46,040 --> 02:34:49,920 Speaker 8: stage was a pure delight to go and see. And 3174 02:34:50,040 --> 02:34:52,080 Speaker 8: you know, people used to come up to me and say, hey, Dave, 3175 02:34:52,320 --> 02:34:56,360 Speaker 8: you know what's on? Can you get me a half? 3176 02:34:56,760 --> 02:34:59,400 Speaker 8: And I go no, And it was, you know, just 3177 02:34:59,560 --> 02:35:02,680 Speaker 8: like we went, just believe we went. We were doing 3178 02:35:02,720 --> 02:35:04,600 Speaker 8: a gig in the East with the Angels, and I 3179 02:35:04,680 --> 02:35:06,600 Speaker 8: see docums and out the back and we were just 3180 02:35:06,680 --> 02:35:07,560 Speaker 8: we did a lot of supports. 3181 02:35:07,600 --> 02:35:08,560 Speaker 7: And he's reading a book. 3182 02:35:09,040 --> 02:35:10,280 Speaker 8: So he's just out there reading a book and he 3183 02:35:10,360 --> 02:35:12,640 Speaker 8: gets on stage and he's a different persons. 3184 02:35:13,080 --> 02:35:13,920 Speaker 7: The same thing with Dick. 3185 02:35:14,000 --> 02:35:16,440 Speaker 8: He gets up on stage and things starts shaking and 3186 02:35:16,520 --> 02:35:18,760 Speaker 8: rattling and rolling, and the jugs of water and beer 3187 02:35:18,920 --> 02:35:20,520 Speaker 8: just to get poured all over Dar. 3188 02:35:21,480 --> 02:35:23,960 Speaker 19: I think I think the thing was. I think the 3189 02:35:24,040 --> 02:35:27,080 Speaker 19: thing was with the stage presence and all that that 3190 02:35:27,200 --> 02:35:29,200 Speaker 19: A lot of the bands in Perth sort of got it, 3191 02:35:29,320 --> 02:35:32,640 Speaker 19: but you got it from a from us, from partly 3192 02:35:32,680 --> 02:35:35,040 Speaker 19: from isolation, because you knew nothing else, he said the 3193 02:35:35,080 --> 02:35:38,080 Speaker 19: other band. Yes, and that's sort of working your favor. 3194 02:35:38,200 --> 02:35:41,600 Speaker 19: So when we saw Dave Warner, for instance, we first 3195 02:35:41,640 --> 02:35:45,240 Speaker 19: we were watching him he returned from England after pass 3196 02:35:45,520 --> 02:35:48,800 Speaker 19: and he'd gone to England and returned from him and 3197 02:35:48,840 --> 02:35:53,320 Speaker 19: we're watching him and Dave Dave got up and his 3198 02:35:53,480 --> 02:35:55,840 Speaker 19: first ten songs I said, I've said to him many 3199 02:35:55,920 --> 02:35:59,760 Speaker 19: times since they were so bloody boring. But what he 3200 02:35:59,879 --> 02:36:02,160 Speaker 19: was doing was setting up and it wasn't really but 3201 02:36:02,240 --> 02:36:05,200 Speaker 19: he was setting it up for the bigger picture, the 3202 02:36:05,240 --> 02:36:08,080 Speaker 19: bigger picture, and the bigger picture was he just went 3203 02:36:08,680 --> 02:36:13,440 Speaker 19: turned around with a mouthful of spit and skunk. Yeah yeah, 3204 02:36:14,760 --> 02:36:17,279 Speaker 19: regurgitated a way up in the air and the landed 3205 02:36:17,320 --> 02:36:21,040 Speaker 19: between one of our guys legs. So it was just 3206 02:36:21,160 --> 02:36:24,640 Speaker 19: a fantastic So to that extent, I reckon that we 3207 02:36:24,720 --> 02:36:28,640 Speaker 19: were shaped. For instance, we saw Billy Rodgers, great Sexpot 3208 02:36:28,640 --> 02:36:32,480 Speaker 19: who was great sast Last Chance Cafe, Lasts Cafe, and 3209 02:36:33,080 --> 02:36:37,080 Speaker 19: De zider Cats later on, and the Essentials and Dragon. 3210 02:36:37,200 --> 02:36:41,000 Speaker 19: He was big to go into Dragon. So we saw 3211 02:36:41,160 --> 02:36:43,080 Speaker 19: just like that, and they like heroes to us, you know, 3212 02:36:43,600 --> 02:36:46,680 Speaker 19: and you you in the sense of competition, I think, 3213 02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:47,440 Speaker 19: you know, I think the. 3214 02:36:47,480 --> 02:36:49,840 Speaker 8: Great thing about that era as well, in that time 3215 02:36:50,000 --> 02:36:51,720 Speaker 8: is that you know that the daily news was the 3216 02:36:51,760 --> 02:36:53,840 Speaker 8: only way you found out where all your bands were playing. 3217 02:36:54,240 --> 02:36:57,080 Speaker 8: There was no phones in your landlines. So all of 3218 02:36:57,160 --> 02:36:59,200 Speaker 8: your mates that used to come and watch us would 3219 02:36:59,280 --> 02:37:03,520 Speaker 8: just go, Okay, we're going to say the Overflow. They 3220 02:37:03,640 --> 02:37:06,040 Speaker 8: go there every Friday. They won't even talk to talk 3221 02:37:06,120 --> 02:37:08,440 Speaker 8: to anyone during the week. They just go the Overflow, 3222 02:37:08,520 --> 02:37:11,440 Speaker 8: and that's what they did because that's where everybody met. 3223 02:37:11,720 --> 02:37:13,840 Speaker 8: But it was such a healthy industry, and half the 3224 02:37:13,920 --> 02:37:16,360 Speaker 8: time we never really had time to see any other bands, 3225 02:37:16,440 --> 02:37:18,360 Speaker 8: except when you did the Nook and Busses or the 3226 02:37:18,400 --> 02:37:21,560 Speaker 8: Belmont Balls working. Yeah, and on a Monday night, so 3227 02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:23,480 Speaker 8: we'd go a bit early and watch a couple of bands. 3228 02:37:23,879 --> 02:37:25,560 Speaker 8: We see all these names in the fad, go who 3229 02:37:25,600 --> 02:37:25,840 Speaker 8: are they? 3230 02:37:26,200 --> 02:37:28,920 Speaker 7: You pore over that thing like a horse tragic with 3231 02:37:29,000 --> 02:37:32,360 Speaker 7: a TV to work out. You know, what are you 3232 02:37:32,440 --> 02:37:33,000 Speaker 7: going to do now? 3233 02:37:33,280 --> 02:37:37,120 Speaker 5: Any incidents of particular, nota perhaps involving the Scarborough Hotel. 3234 02:37:39,080 --> 02:37:43,480 Speaker 19: Well you know Scarborough Hotel. Actually, he's a little bit 3235 02:37:43,480 --> 02:37:46,199 Speaker 19: of reflection. Scarborough Hotel was actually on a different circuit 3236 02:37:46,280 --> 02:37:50,720 Speaker 19: to us. Our circuit sort of became the No Sweat 3237 02:37:50,840 --> 02:37:55,879 Speaker 19: circuit ultimately, which was run by Peter Hayes and Neil 3238 02:37:56,120 --> 02:38:00,760 Speaker 19: Neil Scott, our manager. And that was how the borough started. 3239 02:38:00,760 --> 02:38:03,520 Speaker 19: And I heard you mentioned them any times. I mean, 3240 02:38:03,560 --> 02:38:06,280 Speaker 19: everybody was sort of the holy Grail of a like. 3241 02:38:06,640 --> 02:38:10,400 Speaker 19: But the way that started was the guy Michael Hodgson. Hodgson. 3242 02:38:10,879 --> 02:38:16,279 Speaker 19: Hodgson was starting off the pub, had this dream about 3243 02:38:16,600 --> 02:38:19,640 Speaker 19: having thousands of people in there, which did eventuate, but 3244 02:38:19,720 --> 02:38:23,360 Speaker 19: he had that place set up really badly. Peter Hayes 3245 02:38:23,480 --> 02:38:26,360 Speaker 19: was driving by and told him. He said, mate, you've 3246 02:38:26,440 --> 02:38:30,720 Speaker 19: got this place completely wrong. And Peter Hayes ultimately his 3247 02:38:30,879 --> 02:38:34,160 Speaker 19: fingerprints manager actually, but he ended up being our manager 3248 02:38:34,200 --> 02:38:36,920 Speaker 19: as well, and he had told him how to lay 3249 02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:38,520 Speaker 19: it out. And then the guy said, well, you know 3250 02:38:38,680 --> 02:38:39,080 Speaker 19: so much. 3251 02:38:39,120 --> 02:38:39,880 Speaker 14: You run the room. 3252 02:38:40,280 --> 02:38:42,920 Speaker 19: And the way they ran that room, which is quite revolutionary, 3253 02:38:42,959 --> 02:38:46,800 Speaker 19: they carried on in the Dave Warner loaded dice tradition, 3254 02:38:46,959 --> 02:38:51,000 Speaker 19: of which had already become we get the door. So 3255 02:38:51,160 --> 02:38:54,200 Speaker 19: the bands like Strangers and stuff like that. You know, 3256 02:38:54,560 --> 02:38:56,080 Speaker 19: they went to the look and borrough and they just 3257 02:38:56,120 --> 02:38:58,600 Speaker 19: couldn't believe it because they were getting the door the 3258 02:38:58,640 --> 02:38:59,400 Speaker 19: first time ever. 3259 02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:03,080 Speaker 7: And place you need to pursu was. 3260 02:39:03,400 --> 02:39:06,560 Speaker 19: It was so in a way it was fantastic because 3261 02:39:06,600 --> 02:39:10,400 Speaker 19: the bands in a way would love to stay in Perth. 3262 02:39:10,480 --> 02:39:12,160 Speaker 19: But of course it's almost to your detriment. 3263 02:39:12,520 --> 02:39:18,160 Speaker 7: There was such a thrash to make that trip. Yeah, 3264 02:39:18,800 --> 02:39:20,119 Speaker 7: we got great stories about that one. 3265 02:39:20,160 --> 02:39:22,880 Speaker 8: But getting back to your question about the scar, we 3266 02:39:23,000 --> 02:39:25,000 Speaker 8: were we were doing a Sunday session there. It wasn't 3267 02:39:25,040 --> 02:39:27,280 Speaker 8: really our circuit and and all of a sudden the 3268 02:39:27,640 --> 02:39:29,840 Speaker 8: police turned up and there was saying apparently there was 3269 02:39:29,840 --> 02:39:33,760 Speaker 8: a bomb scare. So everyone cleared out the pub and 3270 02:39:33,840 --> 02:39:35,680 Speaker 8: in those days, I'm taking my beer. 3271 02:39:37,640 --> 02:39:38,600 Speaker 7: They took all the drenks. 3272 02:39:38,680 --> 02:39:41,200 Speaker 8: So everyone's out on the road in the cart drinking 3273 02:39:41,440 --> 02:39:43,040 Speaker 8: and I'm doing a bit of a headcount of the 3274 02:39:43,120 --> 02:39:44,840 Speaker 8: band and one of my roadies is missing. 3275 02:39:44,959 --> 02:39:47,360 Speaker 7: So where's Mitch. You know, where's Mitch. 3276 02:39:47,440 --> 02:39:50,840 Speaker 8: I'll go back inside and there's Mitch underneath the stage 3277 02:39:51,400 --> 02:39:53,920 Speaker 8: in the lounge. I said, what are you doing? Is 3278 02:39:54,000 --> 02:39:57,360 Speaker 8: that I'm looking for the bomb, and I said, and 3279 02:39:57,520 --> 02:40:02,600 Speaker 8: then what yeah, get out. I got his gobout here 3280 02:40:02,840 --> 02:40:07,760 Speaker 8: and then and then it was alarm. It wasn't so 3281 02:40:07,760 --> 02:40:09,160 Speaker 8: I think we just we all went back in and 3282 02:40:09,200 --> 02:40:10,920 Speaker 8: picked up where we left off on the last part 3283 02:40:10,959 --> 02:40:12,000 Speaker 8: of the set and finished. 3284 02:40:13,800 --> 02:40:16,360 Speaker 7: We ended back in and when Yeah, that was a 3285 02:40:16,400 --> 02:40:18,119 Speaker 7: good different. 3286 02:40:19,360 --> 02:40:23,120 Speaker 19: Mitch is still alive. Yeah, we saw him last week. 3287 02:40:23,840 --> 02:40:25,160 Speaker 7: He's not working for a bomb disposal. 3288 02:40:27,520 --> 02:40:27,640 Speaker 9: You know. 3289 02:40:27,760 --> 02:40:31,360 Speaker 7: He called it in Alan Simpson. Probably they started to 3290 02:40:31,360 --> 02:40:32,000 Speaker 7: disturb the peace. 3291 02:40:33,720 --> 02:40:35,880 Speaker 6: It's funny because somebody you said earlier about all the 3292 02:40:35,959 --> 02:40:38,240 Speaker 6: spit flying at a Day Warner show. If you googled 3293 02:40:38,280 --> 02:40:42,120 Speaker 6: the video for Suburban Yeah, yeah, if you if you like, 3294 02:40:42,240 --> 02:40:43,960 Speaker 6: he's got the spit all over his facing the video 3295 02:40:44,320 --> 02:40:47,280 Speaker 6: which is a classic video where st jugs of beer 3296 02:40:47,400 --> 02:40:47,840 Speaker 6: over him. 3297 02:40:47,920 --> 02:40:49,119 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah. 3298 02:40:49,720 --> 02:40:52,200 Speaker 5: Something else you don't see these days. Jugs are beer? No, no, 3299 02:40:53,400 --> 02:40:53,880 Speaker 5: those days? 3300 02:40:53,879 --> 02:40:54,840 Speaker 9: What is that? Yeah? 3301 02:40:55,080 --> 02:40:55,520 Speaker 14: None real? 3302 02:40:55,720 --> 02:40:57,880 Speaker 6: But was there was time when you were in the 3303 02:40:57,959 --> 02:41:00,600 Speaker 6: career with loaded dice and you went, actually we're going 3304 02:41:00,640 --> 02:41:02,440 Speaker 6: and gone to the next level. Here was it one 3305 02:41:02,520 --> 02:41:04,240 Speaker 6: moment there was one gig was there? 3306 02:41:04,400 --> 02:41:06,040 Speaker 7: Well it was actually like can I come? 3307 02:41:06,360 --> 02:41:10,440 Speaker 19: Yeah, Well there was one time, and there was a 3308 02:41:10,480 --> 02:41:13,920 Speaker 19: few times, but you're always sort of thinking about tomorrow 3309 02:41:14,080 --> 02:41:16,120 Speaker 19: and thinking you're can I have my. 3310 02:41:17,959 --> 02:41:18,480 Speaker 14: Going better? 3311 02:41:18,520 --> 02:41:21,720 Speaker 19: But we did play with Split Ends of Australa shortly 3312 02:41:21,800 --> 02:41:25,600 Speaker 19: be going on countdown and the countdown song was Mamselle 3313 02:41:25,720 --> 02:41:32,199 Speaker 19: Not Not Telephone, and so we're going on, we're playing 3314 02:41:32,240 --> 02:41:34,320 Speaker 19: with them, and there was a big thing for us, 3315 02:41:34,360 --> 02:41:36,640 Speaker 19: a big thing for Split Ends because the Splitans were 3316 02:41:36,680 --> 02:41:43,720 Speaker 19: coming back from with a rebirth with Neil Finn and 3317 02:41:44,120 --> 02:41:47,160 Speaker 19: they got up after us, and we had been really 3318 02:41:47,200 --> 02:41:49,560 Speaker 19: successful in the gig, that particular gig. We'd sort of 3319 02:41:49,720 --> 02:41:53,360 Speaker 19: like their fans, who are most of the crowd, seem 3320 02:41:53,440 --> 02:41:55,560 Speaker 19: to love us, and then they got up and they 3321 02:41:55,640 --> 02:41:59,520 Speaker 19: disappointed their own fans because because if you think about 3322 02:42:01,280 --> 02:42:04,720 Speaker 19: sometimes doesn't really have a huge pub vibe. And there 3323 02:42:04,800 --> 02:42:07,520 Speaker 19: was a number of songs like that. But then we 3324 02:42:07,720 --> 02:42:11,080 Speaker 19: went on to countdown and it's a completely different thing 3325 02:42:11,200 --> 02:42:15,280 Speaker 19: because it's a pop song and Marty, we even hadn't 3326 02:42:15,320 --> 02:42:17,800 Speaker 19: even noticed that that song I Got You, We hadn't 3327 02:42:17,800 --> 02:42:19,959 Speaker 19: even noticed them do it in their bracket, but when 3328 02:42:20,000 --> 02:42:22,520 Speaker 19: they were doing a countdown, we were watching them and going, hey, 3329 02:42:23,120 --> 02:42:28,200 Speaker 19: this is like number one radio. So then yeah, or 3330 02:42:28,480 --> 02:42:32,920 Speaker 19: to that story is we then went to number thirty 3331 02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:35,440 Speaker 19: four in Tasmania and they went to number one. 3332 02:42:35,360 --> 02:42:38,040 Speaker 7: All around for weeks or something. 3333 02:42:38,320 --> 02:42:38,480 Speaker 14: Yeah. 3334 02:42:38,520 --> 02:42:41,160 Speaker 19: But the thing was, we really felt a lot of times, 3335 02:42:41,280 --> 02:42:43,240 Speaker 19: we really felt, you know, we all signed up to 3336 02:42:43,480 --> 02:42:46,080 Speaker 19: w EA and we all signed up under with Cultures 3337 02:42:46,160 --> 02:42:49,680 Speaker 19: or the same same lur guy and that. So in 3338 02:42:49,760 --> 02:42:53,199 Speaker 19: a way we thought, and you know, it's all based 3339 02:42:53,240 --> 02:42:54,200 Speaker 19: upon our own music. 3340 02:42:54,320 --> 02:42:54,600 Speaker 4: All of that. 3341 02:42:55,400 --> 02:42:59,480 Speaker 19: We thought, you know, we're away, but it's a big journey. 3342 02:42:59,520 --> 02:43:01,360 Speaker 19: And a lot of the bands were bloody good. 3343 02:43:01,560 --> 02:43:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 3344 02:43:01,959 --> 02:43:05,120 Speaker 19: Oh yeah, I didn't realize until you were in good company. 3345 02:43:05,480 --> 02:43:07,920 Speaker 8: Got I've got a story for your Adelaide. The only 3346 02:43:08,000 --> 02:43:10,280 Speaker 8: time I ever felt like we got treated like rock stars. 3347 02:43:10,879 --> 02:43:14,840 Speaker 8: The A and R guy from WA Records picked us 3348 02:43:14,920 --> 02:43:17,320 Speaker 8: up in a limousine from the hotel and we were 3349 02:43:17,400 --> 02:43:21,560 Speaker 8: doing the Adelaide Rock Show at the time in the afternoon, 3350 02:43:21,760 --> 02:43:24,279 Speaker 8: and in the morning we went to a record store 3351 02:43:24,360 --> 02:43:26,440 Speaker 8: and we go there, we all rock star. 3352 02:43:26,720 --> 02:43:26,920 Speaker 11: Yeah. 3353 02:43:27,640 --> 02:43:30,440 Speaker 8: So they had the whole Loaded Dice No Sweat album, 3354 02:43:30,840 --> 02:43:33,000 Speaker 8: the whole thing done, and we walk in there going, 3355 02:43:33,120 --> 02:43:35,720 Speaker 8: this is going to be fantastic, you know, ready to 3356 02:43:35,760 --> 02:43:37,240 Speaker 8: sign autographs and do everything. 3357 02:43:38,080 --> 02:43:42,840 Speaker 14: Not a soul. Not a soul. So what we did 3358 02:43:43,000 --> 02:43:43,200 Speaker 14: is we. 3359 02:43:43,200 --> 02:43:50,760 Speaker 7: Flipped through some albums and bought a couple of That 3360 02:43:50,920 --> 02:43:51,720 Speaker 7: was the only time. 3361 02:43:52,080 --> 02:43:54,280 Speaker 5: It's been a total double treat to have you in 3362 02:43:54,360 --> 02:43:57,560 Speaker 5: this morning, reminiscing about these great days that. 3363 02:43:57,640 --> 02:44:03,000 Speaker 19: We miss and thanks for this special guest, Glad, thanks 3364 02:44:03,000 --> 02:44:05,920 Speaker 19: for having us, guys, wonderful thing you're doing. 3365 02:44:06,200 --> 02:44:07,760 Speaker 7: Thank you very much. I've spent a lot of fun 3366 02:44:07,840 --> 02:44:08,800 Speaker 7: and great to see you both. 3367 02:44:08,800 --> 02:44:10,120 Speaker 19: Thank you, thanks for having thank you. 3368 02:44:11,520 --> 02:44:13,760 Speaker 1: We would be seeing a men at work side said 3369 02:44:13,800 --> 02:44:15,440 Speaker 1: twelve hundred people, the men at work and. 3370 02:44:15,480 --> 02:44:16,000 Speaker 14: Began the road. 3371 02:44:16,120 --> 02:44:18,480 Speaker 2: I don't need did the people and the bands? 3372 02:44:18,520 --> 02:44:21,680 Speaker 4: It was away like Coy and Lisa's pub crawl. 3373 02:44:22,000 --> 02:44:24,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, let's keep on going. Least the Perth pub Crawl 3374 02:44:24,480 --> 02:44:26,800 Speaker 6: continues with a band of brothers. Three of the six 3375 02:44:26,920 --> 02:44:29,879 Speaker 6: were about to take on the world and win. Let's speak, 3376 02:44:29,920 --> 02:44:31,840 Speaker 6: of course a bit excess. But when the Faris Brothers 3377 02:44:31,879 --> 02:44:34,240 Speaker 6: were in Perth and their early manager and lead guitarist 3378 02:44:34,520 --> 02:44:35,480 Speaker 6: was Tim Farris. 3379 02:44:36,240 --> 02:44:38,560 Speaker 7: Good morning, guys, I'm not too bad. 3380 02:44:38,720 --> 02:44:39,840 Speaker 3: It's been a long time. 3381 02:44:41,280 --> 02:44:42,040 Speaker 7: To take on the world. 3382 02:44:42,080 --> 02:44:45,039 Speaker 5: As an understatement, now, what's interesting is at a time 3383 02:44:45,120 --> 02:44:48,760 Speaker 5: when so many bands in Perth relocated from Perth to Sydney. 3384 02:44:49,280 --> 02:44:52,640 Speaker 5: You originally relocated from Sydney to Perth. 3385 02:44:53,000 --> 02:44:54,840 Speaker 7: Talk us how through how that happened. 3386 02:44:55,320 --> 02:45:00,080 Speaker 3: Well, I had this idea about forming the band in 3387 02:45:00,240 --> 02:45:03,600 Speaker 3: the first place, but Johnny and Andrew were still in 3388 02:45:03,720 --> 02:45:08,480 Speaker 3: school and they and my mum and dad were moving 3389 02:45:08,600 --> 02:45:12,320 Speaker 3: back to Perth, and I really wanted us to be 3390 02:45:12,440 --> 02:45:15,200 Speaker 3: a band and stay together. So I thought, well, one 3391 02:45:15,240 --> 02:45:17,920 Speaker 3: of the best ways we could possibly do this is 3392 02:45:18,000 --> 02:45:21,320 Speaker 3: to all rely on music and the band for a living. 3393 02:45:21,920 --> 02:45:25,760 Speaker 3: So I said to Kirk and Michael and Gary, Look, 3394 02:45:27,000 --> 02:45:30,680 Speaker 3: I've got this wild idea that the Pharises are moving 3395 02:45:30,760 --> 02:45:34,199 Speaker 3: back to Perth. Why don't I fly over as well. 3396 02:45:35,120 --> 02:45:37,160 Speaker 3: I can stay with them and Dad, and I'll get 3397 02:45:37,240 --> 02:45:40,200 Speaker 3: us a whole bunch of gigs and residencies there, and 3398 02:45:40,280 --> 02:45:42,280 Speaker 3: then the whole bank there, and we just lived there 3399 02:45:42,320 --> 02:45:46,360 Speaker 3: and be a band and live off the gigs I get, 3400 02:45:47,720 --> 02:45:53,840 Speaker 3: which is a very bold and somehow Kirtle was the 3401 02:45:53,920 --> 02:45:57,880 Speaker 3: last to agree, but we did. We all left our 3402 02:45:57,959 --> 02:46:02,120 Speaker 3: girlfriends and jobs and whatnot, packed up our bags and 3403 02:46:02,640 --> 02:46:12,000 Speaker 3: moved to Beverly. But it was but it was, it 3404 02:46:12,120 --> 02:46:15,920 Speaker 3: was real. It really was a great experience. And when 3405 02:46:16,000 --> 02:46:18,800 Speaker 3: we all lived, well, well, Andrew and John didn't, but 3406 02:46:19,000 --> 02:46:20,840 Speaker 3: the rest of us all live in this one house 3407 02:46:22,160 --> 02:46:27,360 Speaker 3: in Subiaco and uh and we rehearsed every day, you know. 3408 02:46:27,800 --> 02:46:30,440 Speaker 3: And and then I was busy. 3409 02:46:30,800 --> 02:46:34,040 Speaker 27: I met the slow called Desert Joe's yes, was the 3410 02:46:34,160 --> 02:46:36,960 Speaker 27: agent ran the agency there, and he got us a 3411 02:46:37,000 --> 02:46:39,160 Speaker 27: lot of gigs and he said he was very that 3412 02:46:39,360 --> 02:46:42,800 Speaker 27: we we played covers, you know, yeah. 3413 02:46:43,600 --> 02:46:48,280 Speaker 3: Not too many of your own songs. Okay, sure, whatever 3414 02:46:48,360 --> 02:46:54,680 Speaker 3: you say has come up a few times, yeah, exactly. 3415 02:46:54,959 --> 02:46:58,840 Speaker 3: And it was brilliant place to We just wanted to 3416 02:46:58,879 --> 02:47:02,000 Speaker 3: get away out of Sydney, focus on being a band 3417 02:47:02,320 --> 02:47:07,000 Speaker 3: and improving our skills and whatnot, and and that's what 3418 02:47:07,080 --> 02:47:09,400 Speaker 3: we did. And it was it was a great deal 3419 02:47:09,480 --> 02:47:11,119 Speaker 3: of fun. And it was a bit like you remember 3420 02:47:11,200 --> 02:47:15,520 Speaker 3: that show from Yadi School, the Young One. Yeah, well 3421 02:47:15,560 --> 02:47:16,160 Speaker 3: the house is. 3422 02:47:16,680 --> 02:47:20,440 Speaker 7: Kind of a good law were you Neil, Laura? 3423 02:47:27,280 --> 02:47:27,520 Speaker 19: Hello? 3424 02:47:27,680 --> 02:47:29,480 Speaker 7: John got that guy. 3425 02:47:31,480 --> 02:47:33,880 Speaker 3: It was very it was very very funny actually, and 3426 02:47:34,640 --> 02:47:37,200 Speaker 3: and then you know, everything just sort of progressed from 3427 02:47:37,280 --> 02:47:39,920 Speaker 3: there and it was it was it was amazing, really, 3428 02:47:41,040 --> 02:47:45,000 Speaker 3: you know. The residencies had were really fun and they 3429 02:47:45,040 --> 02:47:47,920 Speaker 3: are all good chance to build an audience, which is 3430 02:47:48,000 --> 02:47:48,480 Speaker 3: what we did. 3431 02:47:48,800 --> 02:47:49,039 Speaker 15: Yeah. 3432 02:47:49,680 --> 02:47:53,800 Speaker 5: I've always thought tim that some of the best bands 3433 02:47:53,840 --> 02:47:58,640 Speaker 5: through history based around you know, it starts with siblings. 3434 02:47:58,800 --> 02:48:02,280 Speaker 5: I mean, I've just watched the Bloody Beach Boys movie. 3435 02:48:02,520 --> 02:48:05,400 Speaker 5: That's a great example. But you you know, we've got 3436 02:48:05,440 --> 02:48:08,920 Speaker 5: the Faris brothers. Is it is it just a convenience thing. 3437 02:48:09,000 --> 02:48:11,520 Speaker 5: You're all there together. You'll get a musical instrument for Christmas, 3438 02:48:11,560 --> 02:48:13,520 Speaker 5: so you all play together or or does it? 3439 02:48:13,879 --> 02:48:14,760 Speaker 7: Is it hereditary? 3440 02:48:15,680 --> 02:48:19,039 Speaker 3: That's a good question. I don't know about the hereditary thing, 3441 02:48:21,240 --> 02:48:26,080 Speaker 3: except that you know, we all seem to understand each 3442 02:48:26,120 --> 02:48:29,480 Speaker 3: other and in the musical sense, you know, we were 3443 02:48:29,560 --> 02:48:32,880 Speaker 3: kind of in some ways. When you're young, you know, 3444 02:48:32,959 --> 02:48:35,720 Speaker 3: a couple of years apart is a lot more than 3445 02:48:35,800 --> 02:48:36,640 Speaker 3: it is when you're older. 3446 02:48:36,879 --> 02:48:41,039 Speaker 7: Of course, yes, yes, so you know, I think. 3447 02:48:41,000 --> 02:48:43,480 Speaker 3: The boys looked up to me being the older brother. Yeah, 3448 02:48:44,440 --> 02:48:47,080 Speaker 3: and that sort of thing where they don't now, you know, 3449 02:48:49,800 --> 02:48:53,800 Speaker 3: respect back then, get more respect. 3450 02:48:55,000 --> 02:48:56,320 Speaker 14: But we you know, we. 3451 02:48:57,920 --> 02:49:00,480 Speaker 3: Were sort of felt a bond. But but to sort 3452 02:49:00,520 --> 02:49:03,440 Speaker 3: of catching with the other guy's kirt was my best mate, 3453 02:49:04,280 --> 02:49:07,480 Speaker 3: so uh, you know, and we all just looked after 3454 02:49:07,600 --> 02:49:09,600 Speaker 3: each other, and it was we were like one big 3455 02:49:09,680 --> 02:49:12,440 Speaker 3: family really in the sts, but it was like a 3456 02:49:13,280 --> 02:49:17,440 Speaker 3: rebonded that's shall I say. Yeah, And we were sitting 3457 02:49:17,480 --> 02:49:20,760 Speaker 3: in Perth one night after a show and the guys 3458 02:49:20,800 --> 02:49:24,640 Speaker 3: that all complained to me about Michael because we always 3459 02:49:25,360 --> 02:49:29,200 Speaker 3: lug our own gear in and out, and Michael never 3460 02:49:29,600 --> 02:49:30,320 Speaker 3: lugged any here. 3461 02:49:30,400 --> 02:49:31,560 Speaker 14: Because you didn't have any. 3462 02:49:33,640 --> 02:49:35,360 Speaker 3: To carry. We had to carryge his. 3463 02:49:35,440 --> 02:49:39,519 Speaker 7: Microphone, which is probably they were already. 3464 02:49:40,879 --> 02:49:43,160 Speaker 3: To set Michael down one night and have a chat 3465 02:49:43,240 --> 02:49:46,400 Speaker 3: with him and say, listen, mate, let's let's pull your 3466 02:49:46,440 --> 02:49:49,680 Speaker 3: socks up. I have to do something about that. 3467 02:49:51,520 --> 02:49:53,119 Speaker 14: And so he did. 3468 02:49:53,160 --> 02:49:57,040 Speaker 3: He helped for a little while off the girls. 3469 02:49:58,360 --> 02:50:03,520 Speaker 6: It was Michael. Yeah, we did mention in Yeah exactly. 3470 02:50:03,640 --> 02:50:05,520 Speaker 6: It was pretty good at it. We mentioned in the 3471 02:50:06,280 --> 02:50:08,680 Speaker 6: manager maybe a named manager of the bandit. 3472 02:50:08,840 --> 02:50:09,520 Speaker 14: So it was happening. 3473 02:50:09,600 --> 02:50:11,800 Speaker 6: But this is a long time before you met and 3474 02:50:12,120 --> 02:50:14,160 Speaker 6: started working with Chris Murphy. But did you have to 3475 02:50:14,200 --> 02:50:15,440 Speaker 6: pull rank with your boys quite a bit? 3476 02:50:16,560 --> 02:50:16,760 Speaker 9: Oh? 3477 02:50:17,080 --> 02:50:20,039 Speaker 3: Yes, to know they sort of looked at me as 3478 02:50:20,200 --> 02:50:21,840 Speaker 3: one responsible for everything. 3479 02:50:22,000 --> 02:50:23,440 Speaker 14: Yeah, it was. 3480 02:50:23,640 --> 02:50:27,600 Speaker 3: It was more just a sense of responsibility that if 3481 02:50:27,640 --> 02:50:32,000 Speaker 3: I didn't pull through, what would we do? So I 3482 02:50:32,200 --> 02:50:35,720 Speaker 3: was very busy ring venues and whatnot. And you know, 3483 02:50:35,800 --> 02:50:39,840 Speaker 3: I was just remembering this morning how we did this show. 3484 02:50:39,879 --> 02:50:42,160 Speaker 3: I think it was one of the shows we did, 3485 02:50:42,680 --> 02:50:47,480 Speaker 3: The Herdsman from memory, and there was this big fella 3486 02:50:47,600 --> 02:50:50,560 Speaker 3: came up and so I said to us afterwards, you 3487 02:50:50,600 --> 02:50:53,520 Speaker 3: know who's in charge of the band, And I said, 3488 02:50:53,600 --> 02:50:56,760 Speaker 3: I am, you know, And he said, well, well, I'm 3489 02:50:56,800 --> 02:51:01,000 Speaker 3: the entertainment officer or whatever for the mining company up 3490 02:51:01,080 --> 02:51:05,840 Speaker 3: and Shay Gap and Goldsworthy and we'd like to you 3491 02:51:05,920 --> 02:51:08,520 Speaker 3: guys to come on up. So he said, you know, 3492 02:51:08,640 --> 02:51:11,040 Speaker 3: we'll pay for your air fairs and your gear and 3493 02:51:11,800 --> 02:51:16,520 Speaker 3: to get up there and the whole bit. You'll stay 3494 02:51:16,560 --> 02:51:20,440 Speaker 3: there for the Christmas in the period. And we still thought, oh, 3495 02:51:20,760 --> 02:51:24,320 Speaker 3: there's a bit of money in this, and so I 3496 02:51:24,400 --> 02:51:26,640 Speaker 3: put it to him that you give us the money 3497 02:51:26,720 --> 02:51:31,720 Speaker 3: for the air fares and we'll drive up. So we 3498 02:51:32,400 --> 02:51:36,200 Speaker 3: hide this. We hide the two vans and packed them 3499 02:51:36,320 --> 02:51:41,080 Speaker 3: full of our gear, and off we set. And we 3500 02:51:41,200 --> 02:51:44,200 Speaker 3: thought we'd be smart. And there was two ways. There 3501 02:51:44,320 --> 02:51:46,040 Speaker 3: was we could see it on a map. There was 3502 02:51:46,440 --> 02:51:48,760 Speaker 3: this kind of short way but it was all off road. 3503 02:51:50,360 --> 02:51:52,960 Speaker 3: And then there was the tarred road that went too 3504 02:51:53,120 --> 02:51:55,360 Speaker 3: like it was a lot longer, so we took we 3505 02:51:55,480 --> 02:52:01,880 Speaker 3: took the off and of course we did. It was 3506 02:52:02,480 --> 02:52:04,959 Speaker 3: I'm still to this day amazing we ever got. 3507 02:52:04,840 --> 02:52:06,520 Speaker 14: There, you know. 3508 02:52:07,200 --> 02:52:12,359 Speaker 3: And at one point recovery, which it was really was hilarious. 3509 02:52:12,480 --> 02:52:14,879 Speaker 3: And at one point because there was three of us 3510 02:52:14,959 --> 02:52:19,120 Speaker 3: in each van in the front, and I remember there 3511 02:52:19,240 --> 02:52:24,160 Speaker 3: was John Kirk and I were in one van and Michael, 3512 02:52:24,520 --> 02:52:28,800 Speaker 3: Andrew and Gary were in another. And this particular day 3513 02:52:29,120 --> 02:52:31,480 Speaker 3: because we had to pull over and just slip it 3514 02:52:31,600 --> 02:52:33,840 Speaker 3: rough on the side of the road one night because 3515 02:52:33,840 --> 02:52:36,240 Speaker 3: we were about to run out of fuel and we 3516 02:52:36,400 --> 02:52:39,200 Speaker 3: had no there was no idea of knowing where the 3517 02:52:39,320 --> 02:52:42,080 Speaker 3: next garage was or whatever, so we just pulled over 3518 02:52:42,120 --> 02:52:44,840 Speaker 3: and slept on the side of the road and woke 3519 02:52:44,920 --> 02:52:47,040 Speaker 3: up in the morning next to road killed, you know. 3520 02:52:49,400 --> 02:52:52,320 Speaker 3: But anyway, we set off on our way and John 3521 02:52:52,600 --> 02:52:55,680 Speaker 3: pointed out that the back door on the van in 3522 02:52:55,760 --> 02:52:58,680 Speaker 3: front was starting to open. We were all in our 3523 02:52:58,760 --> 02:53:01,760 Speaker 3: gear in it. Oh no, and yeah, and we couldn't 3524 02:53:01,879 --> 02:53:03,840 Speaker 3: and it was so much dust and stuff. We couldn't 3525 02:53:03,879 --> 02:53:09,320 Speaker 3: catch up to Michael, Gary and you know, Andrew, and 3526 02:53:09,440 --> 02:53:11,920 Speaker 3: the door was opening further down. Finally it was opened 3527 02:53:11,920 --> 02:53:14,080 Speaker 3: all the way and they were just driving along merrily. 3528 02:53:15,800 --> 02:53:21,320 Speaker 3: It was a microphone standard fall out, you know, and 3529 02:53:21,440 --> 02:53:23,880 Speaker 3: we were like, oh no, we couldn't, there's nothing we 3530 02:53:23,920 --> 02:53:26,280 Speaker 3: could do. We were honking and waving and they waved back. 3531 02:53:26,400 --> 02:53:31,600 Speaker 3: You know, we thought we were going to get there. 3532 02:53:31,680 --> 02:53:35,119 Speaker 3: Was only half our year, but it was a happy ending. 3533 02:53:35,760 --> 02:53:38,480 Speaker 3: We got there. We got there and the fellow gave 3534 02:53:38,560 --> 02:53:43,320 Speaker 3: us gave us a bag hot beer each five times 3535 02:53:43,560 --> 02:53:48,240 Speaker 3: and it was and we used that money to fund 3536 02:53:48,400 --> 02:53:51,880 Speaker 3: a lot of our existence over there, and then and 3537 02:53:52,000 --> 02:53:54,960 Speaker 3: then we did it again and that funded our whole 3538 02:53:55,040 --> 02:53:59,360 Speaker 3: trip back to Sydney where we became an excess. 3539 02:54:00,200 --> 02:54:01,240 Speaker 7: Cast your mind back to that. 3540 02:54:02,760 --> 02:54:08,280 Speaker 5: Rental in Subiaco and you're playing the Perth pub scene there. 3541 02:54:08,520 --> 02:54:10,360 Speaker 7: Did you do the Shanton Park Hotel because you could 3542 02:54:10,360 --> 02:54:11,360 Speaker 7: have staggered up to that one. 3543 02:54:11,720 --> 02:54:14,360 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, Yeah, we did. The one that I have 3544 02:54:14,680 --> 02:54:22,600 Speaker 3: the most memory of though, was the Broadway Tavern. Yeah, 3545 02:54:22,959 --> 02:54:26,360 Speaker 3: and that was that we had a real sort of 3546 02:54:26,560 --> 02:54:30,920 Speaker 3: solid following there. Yeah, and it was it was just great. 3547 02:54:31,160 --> 02:54:33,800 Speaker 3: And I remember the very last night before we came 3548 02:54:33,879 --> 02:54:37,200 Speaker 3: back to Sydney, we had a goodbye show and we 3549 02:54:37,360 --> 02:54:41,960 Speaker 3: caught ourselves the vegetables for the night and yeah, and 3550 02:54:42,520 --> 02:54:44,760 Speaker 3: I kind of wrote the song We Are the Vegetable, 3551 02:54:45,280 --> 02:54:52,080 Speaker 3: set it up as the B side on Silent and 3552 02:54:52,760 --> 02:54:58,560 Speaker 3: it was fancy dress and for Andrew dressed up as 3553 02:54:58,600 --> 02:55:03,280 Speaker 3: a chicken and and he got up on stage and 3554 02:55:03,480 --> 02:55:14,200 Speaker 3: started Long Train Running by the Chickens playing Long Train Running. 3555 02:55:16,080 --> 02:55:17,080 Speaker 14: Yeah, house. 3556 02:55:18,920 --> 02:55:20,240 Speaker 7: You mentioned by the young Ones. Was it a bit 3557 02:55:20,320 --> 02:55:21,920 Speaker 7: like animal House. It must have been a mess. 3558 02:55:22,320 --> 02:55:24,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, a lot of house as well. 3559 02:55:24,959 --> 02:55:28,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, inside the house at one Stay. 3560 02:55:28,440 --> 02:55:28,640 Speaker 12: Yeah. 3561 02:55:29,920 --> 02:55:35,520 Speaker 3: Well, yes, Michael always loved his brother bike not so much, 3562 02:55:35,800 --> 02:55:38,880 Speaker 3: not so much then because we didn't he couldn't afford it, 3563 02:55:39,920 --> 02:55:43,280 Speaker 3: but he would write ride his Harley Davidson into rehearsals 3564 02:55:43,320 --> 02:55:48,080 Speaker 3: back here in Sydney and yeah, which is makes it 3565 02:55:48,080 --> 02:55:53,160 Speaker 3: a bit sad thing that actually, But I remember after 3566 02:55:54,360 --> 02:55:57,320 Speaker 3: one of our last rehearsals with Michael, he had ridden 3567 02:55:57,360 --> 02:56:02,000 Speaker 3: the Harley Davidson into the ABC studio where we were rehearsing, right, 3568 02:56:02,320 --> 02:56:04,680 Speaker 3: and and he said to see fellows and did this 3569 02:56:04,800 --> 02:56:09,960 Speaker 3: big willy and let us speak black Mark floor. And 3570 02:56:10,200 --> 02:56:13,400 Speaker 3: then not that well, you know, within the year or 3571 02:56:13,520 --> 02:56:16,600 Speaker 3: whatever it was, when we were rehearsing Terence Trent Derby 3572 02:56:16,959 --> 02:56:19,800 Speaker 3: there when Chance sang with us. We were in the 3573 02:56:19,840 --> 02:56:23,400 Speaker 3: same steat. The big Black Mark was still around hitting. 3574 02:56:24,560 --> 02:56:28,400 Speaker 7: Wow as a moment boys, Yeah, exactly, there was. 3575 02:56:28,920 --> 02:56:31,520 Speaker 5: There were so many venues to perform in and you'd 3576 02:56:31,560 --> 02:56:33,920 Speaker 5: get that, you'd get whatever it was, the daily News 3577 02:56:33,959 --> 02:56:36,080 Speaker 5: or whatever. The gig guide came in and you could 3578 02:56:36,160 --> 02:56:39,160 Speaker 5: go every single night. And of course we were talking 3579 02:56:39,760 --> 02:56:43,120 Speaker 5: before about how the Sunday Session at that time was 3580 02:56:43,240 --> 02:56:44,680 Speaker 5: such an institution. 3581 02:56:45,440 --> 02:56:47,880 Speaker 7: Do you remember any of those Sunday Session shows? 3582 02:56:48,280 --> 02:56:51,400 Speaker 3: Oh, very very well. I mean the Sunday Sessions were 3583 02:56:51,520 --> 02:56:54,480 Speaker 3: they were like that didn't happen anywhere else. No, No, 3584 02:56:54,840 --> 02:56:58,560 Speaker 3: it was a perthing and it was really great, you know. 3585 02:56:58,920 --> 02:57:01,960 Speaker 3: I mean it was just a relaxing thing to do 3586 02:57:02,040 --> 02:57:06,440 Speaker 3: on a Sunday afternoon. Yeah, yeah, well I remember one particularly, 3587 02:57:06,520 --> 02:57:08,680 Speaker 3: I think that was at the Great Ocean Hotel and 3588 02:57:11,040 --> 02:57:13,879 Speaker 3: and it was just such a magic place to play, 3589 02:57:14,160 --> 02:57:19,959 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 3590 02:57:20,000 --> 02:57:20,480 Speaker 14: That's the one. 3591 02:57:21,040 --> 02:57:22,680 Speaker 6: You've got to play those gigs in Perth as the 3592 02:57:22,720 --> 02:57:25,320 Speaker 6: Fairest Brothers, I know that. You know, the in excess 3593 02:57:25,360 --> 02:57:26,720 Speaker 6: thing was to come when you head back to Sydney. 3594 02:57:26,760 --> 02:57:28,800 Speaker 6: But you got to hone your craft and yeah, maybe 3595 02:57:28,879 --> 02:57:30,959 Speaker 6: make some mistakes and all that stuff, and that paid 3596 02:57:31,000 --> 02:57:33,160 Speaker 6: off for the Wembley's and they're touring the States in 3597 02:57:33,240 --> 02:57:34,160 Speaker 6: Europe later on. 3598 02:57:34,280 --> 02:57:38,039 Speaker 3: Didn't It absolutely did. Yeah, I mean that was the thing. 3599 02:57:38,120 --> 02:57:41,760 Speaker 3: We didn't have anything else to do, so we literally 3600 02:57:41,879 --> 02:57:46,720 Speaker 3: put mattresses up against the wall and turned one room 3601 02:57:46,760 --> 02:57:49,920 Speaker 3: in the house into a rehearsal space, and that's where 3602 02:57:49,959 --> 02:57:56,160 Speaker 3: we really really practiced and rehearsed, and I remember Michael 3603 02:57:56,440 --> 02:58:01,879 Speaker 3: going to Fiorucci and buying his red pants. Then warred 3604 02:58:02,400 --> 02:58:03,680 Speaker 3: every next year. 3605 02:58:06,760 --> 02:58:10,040 Speaker 5: Everyone we've spoken to Tim talks about the great camaraderie 3606 02:58:10,200 --> 02:58:12,160 Speaker 5: of everyone that was sort of on the scene at 3607 02:58:12,160 --> 02:58:12,480 Speaker 5: the time. 3608 02:58:13,000 --> 02:58:15,600 Speaker 7: Did you did other bands and so on? 3609 02:58:15,680 --> 02:58:18,280 Speaker 5: Did you get the feeling from them that they just 3610 02:58:18,600 --> 02:58:23,040 Speaker 5: knew with you guys, there was something in the future 3611 02:58:23,120 --> 02:58:25,760 Speaker 5: for you guys, it was just even extra special. 3612 02:58:26,440 --> 02:58:30,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, because we didn't get that feeling. 3613 02:58:30,200 --> 02:58:32,520 Speaker 3: We could see the camaraderie between other bands, but. 3614 02:58:32,600 --> 02:58:33,200 Speaker 14: Yeah, a little bit. 3615 02:58:34,440 --> 02:58:36,800 Speaker 7: Really, we never never really. 3616 02:58:36,720 --> 02:58:40,720 Speaker 3: Understood why, I think in retrospect now I do. But 3617 02:58:41,800 --> 02:58:46,960 Speaker 3: and also we weren't really from Perth. Yeah, as far 3618 02:58:47,040 --> 02:58:48,320 Speaker 3: as that was concerned. 3619 02:58:47,959 --> 02:58:58,000 Speaker 7: You know, Infiltrat exactly from Sydney. I was ye I 3620 02:58:58,120 --> 02:58:59,560 Speaker 7: tell everyone in excess as a per. 3621 02:59:02,440 --> 02:59:03,119 Speaker 9: We thought we were. 3622 02:59:03,920 --> 02:59:05,880 Speaker 6: Hey, Timmy, if someone had told you back then, you know, 3623 02:59:05,959 --> 02:59:08,040 Speaker 6: you're a few years away from that second album. But 3624 02:59:08,160 --> 02:59:10,119 Speaker 6: if someone had told you in the late seventies in PERTHCT, 3625 02:59:10,160 --> 02:59:12,440 Speaker 6: you guys would move to city and they'd be working 3626 02:59:12,480 --> 02:59:14,720 Speaker 6: with a great Richard Clapton on an album as producer 3627 02:59:14,760 --> 02:59:15,560 Speaker 6: for Underneath the Calais. 3628 02:59:15,560 --> 02:59:16,280 Speaker 7: Would you believe it? 3629 02:59:16,680 --> 02:59:16,880 Speaker 12: Yeah? 3630 02:59:17,320 --> 02:59:21,080 Speaker 3: No, probably not. Yeah, you know, I mean there was 3631 02:59:21,280 --> 02:59:25,440 Speaker 3: a little alone what we do after that, but yeah, 3632 02:59:25,560 --> 02:59:28,120 Speaker 3: but you know Richard, Richard was a lovely fellow and 3633 02:59:28,280 --> 02:59:32,440 Speaker 3: we opened for him for quite a while and that 3634 02:59:32,600 --> 02:59:35,400 Speaker 3: sort of was a very organic sort of thing to 3635 02:59:35,480 --> 02:59:37,800 Speaker 3: happen that we'd end up using him as a producer. 3636 02:59:38,360 --> 02:59:41,720 Speaker 3: You know, he was a big fan more than so. 3637 02:59:42,080 --> 02:59:45,320 Speaker 3: You know, it was musa but it was it was. 3638 02:59:45,600 --> 02:59:48,560 Speaker 3: There were all great times and all part of the 3639 02:59:48,640 --> 02:59:49,160 Speaker 3: learning curve. 3640 02:59:49,879 --> 02:59:52,640 Speaker 5: Well, it's a big year this year, big birthday, big anniversary, 3641 02:59:52,720 --> 02:59:53,840 Speaker 5: the swing for. 3642 02:59:54,480 --> 02:59:56,720 Speaker 7: The Big four h We spoke to Andrew in the 3643 02:59:56,760 --> 02:59:58,840 Speaker 7: year about it. Can you believe it? 3644 03:00:00,320 --> 03:00:04,800 Speaker 3: Yes? I can? Well, yeah exactly. Well it's the big 3645 03:00:04,879 --> 03:00:07,640 Speaker 3: five zero for the band coming out right, Yes, yeah, 3646 03:00:07,920 --> 03:00:10,879 Speaker 3: twenty seven so yeah, that's a very big one. 3647 03:00:11,160 --> 03:00:13,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, because the Angels are going through that right now 3648 03:00:13,680 --> 03:00:15,760 Speaker 6: without fifty, so just behind the boys. 3649 03:00:15,800 --> 03:00:18,959 Speaker 7: But Gradyre of Bussie pub Rock, Yeah, that's right. 3650 03:00:19,040 --> 03:00:21,280 Speaker 3: And then I mean when we do come back to Sydney, 3651 03:00:21,760 --> 03:00:25,640 Speaker 3: the pub's thing here was just as big, but there 3652 03:00:25,760 --> 03:00:28,600 Speaker 3: was like ten times as many people in pubs the 3653 03:00:28,680 --> 03:00:32,439 Speaker 3: same size, you know, Yeah, which is kind of ludicrous 3654 03:00:33,360 --> 03:00:35,880 Speaker 3: and there's no way you can do it today. Yeah, 3655 03:00:36,040 --> 03:00:37,959 Speaker 3: it's just too illegal. 3656 03:00:38,760 --> 03:00:40,720 Speaker 6: And what was to go back to Sydney. Was there 3657 03:00:40,760 --> 03:00:42,240 Speaker 6: a date that you said we're going back then or 3658 03:00:42,280 --> 03:00:43,760 Speaker 6: did you just feel it was right at the right time. 3659 03:00:44,520 --> 03:00:48,120 Speaker 28: Yeah, there was a date because he said would be 3660 03:00:48,200 --> 03:00:51,280 Speaker 28: in Percy years, so I spoke to and we just 3661 03:00:51,320 --> 03:00:54,320 Speaker 28: sort of felt like we played everywhere, there was nothing 3662 03:00:54,800 --> 03:00:55,280 Speaker 28: left to do. 3663 03:00:56,080 --> 03:00:58,720 Speaker 3: We needed to go back to Sydney to get signed 3664 03:00:58,760 --> 03:01:03,080 Speaker 3: to a record company, and as well, we got sick 3665 03:01:03,160 --> 03:01:07,040 Speaker 3: of playing so many covers. You know, Joseph was pretty 3666 03:01:07,200 --> 03:01:11,520 Speaker 3: pretty adamant that we were playing enough covers. We started 3667 03:01:11,560 --> 03:01:14,160 Speaker 3: playing so many of our own songs and we were like, well, 3668 03:01:14,480 --> 03:01:16,080 Speaker 3: well let's aware of that. For us, you know, we 3669 03:01:16,240 --> 03:01:19,440 Speaker 3: want to play our own music. So it was right, 3670 03:01:20,240 --> 03:01:21,240 Speaker 3: we will run out of town. 3671 03:01:23,000 --> 03:01:26,840 Speaker 5: Well without giving anything away. With the Big five oh 3672 03:01:27,000 --> 03:01:29,240 Speaker 5: coming up and everything, can we expect some kind of 3673 03:01:29,800 --> 03:01:31,279 Speaker 5: celebration Maybe. 3674 03:01:33,240 --> 03:01:36,640 Speaker 3: It would be some kind of celebration. Also, I can't 3675 03:01:36,800 --> 03:01:43,039 Speaker 3: really give the work just enough to know that, yeah, it's. 3676 03:01:42,959 --> 03:01:45,040 Speaker 7: Going to be a big party in the works. 3677 03:01:45,160 --> 03:01:47,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, it includes playing you get a good cowboy head 3678 03:01:47,760 --> 03:01:49,000 Speaker 6: off you your brother. 3679 03:01:50,760 --> 03:01:52,080 Speaker 7: Just for a little while, because he's. 3680 03:01:54,400 --> 03:01:55,640 Speaker 3: I don't know where I put that thing. 3681 03:01:57,320 --> 03:01:59,800 Speaker 7: We spoke to him about this spring celebrations a few 3682 03:01:59,800 --> 03:02:00,200 Speaker 7: weeks go. 3683 03:02:00,480 --> 03:02:04,280 Speaker 5: Girl, Tim Farriss, we are glad that you didn't listen 3684 03:02:04,360 --> 03:02:07,400 Speaker 5: to the insistence that you only play covers. And it's 3685 03:02:07,440 --> 03:02:11,039 Speaker 5: been fantastic to reminisce with you today on our pub 3686 03:02:11,120 --> 03:02:13,959 Speaker 5: crawl and we look forward to hearing what the big party. 3687 03:02:13,800 --> 03:02:14,520 Speaker 7: Is going to be all about it. 3688 03:02:14,600 --> 03:02:17,560 Speaker 3: Thanks for time, Tony, any excuse to come the person? 3689 03:02:17,760 --> 03:02:22,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would love to see it, right, Thanks brother Tim, 3690 03:02:22,680 --> 03:02:23,320 Speaker 7: Thank you guys. 3691 03:02:24,920 --> 03:02:27,760 Speaker 1: We would be seeing a minute works said, twelve hundred 3692 03:02:27,800 --> 03:02:29,880 Speaker 1: people a men at work to be on their owning? 3693 03:02:29,920 --> 03:02:31,920 Speaker 2: Did the people play in the the bands? 3694 03:02:31,959 --> 03:02:35,120 Speaker 4: It was Away and Lisa's pub crawl. 3695 03:02:35,959 --> 03:02:38,600 Speaker 5: Before there was the injectors, there was innocent Vistanders and 3696 03:02:38,680 --> 03:02:41,120 Speaker 5: before he was Diesel, he was Michael Zotti is all 3697 03:02:41,200 --> 03:02:43,600 Speaker 5: those things and he's joining us this morning on. 3698 03:02:43,640 --> 03:02:44,280 Speaker 7: The pub crawl. 3699 03:02:44,440 --> 03:02:45,840 Speaker 14: Hello mate, welcome. 3700 03:02:48,720 --> 03:02:51,400 Speaker 5: We are having the most wonderful time reminiscing with all 3701 03:02:51,440 --> 03:02:55,200 Speaker 5: your mates from back in the day. Innocent Vierstanders were 3702 03:02:55,240 --> 03:02:57,480 Speaker 5: one of the few original acts in Perth in the eighties. 3703 03:02:57,560 --> 03:02:59,320 Speaker 5: We are smarked on a hue from the Frames the 3704 03:02:59,400 --> 03:03:02,440 Speaker 5: other day about the pressure to perform covers at that time, 3705 03:03:02,920 --> 03:03:05,320 Speaker 5: and he said, there was did you feel that pressure 3706 03:03:05,360 --> 03:03:05,680 Speaker 5: as well? 3707 03:03:06,320 --> 03:03:07,920 Speaker 29: Look, you know there was definitely in sort of a 3708 03:03:08,040 --> 03:03:11,800 Speaker 29: hierarchy with the venues. I remember just you know, our agent, 3709 03:03:11,920 --> 03:03:14,120 Speaker 29: our managers kind of like, I can't explain to us 3710 03:03:14,160 --> 03:03:17,120 Speaker 29: that those types of those particular venues were reserved for 3711 03:03:17,280 --> 03:03:19,280 Speaker 29: the couple of bands on the old those nights and 3712 03:03:20,000 --> 03:03:23,920 Speaker 29: we're talking Finders on Saturdays, the biggest of the week, 3713 03:03:24,320 --> 03:03:26,200 Speaker 29: and you know, it was kind of just we just 3714 03:03:26,320 --> 03:03:27,880 Speaker 29: kind of had to accept it that we weren't going 3715 03:03:27,959 --> 03:03:31,000 Speaker 29: to get into those sort of venues. But you know, 3716 03:03:31,080 --> 03:03:33,280 Speaker 29: we gave, we gave everything a good shake. As far 3717 03:03:33,320 --> 03:03:35,920 Speaker 29: as being a band of play our own songs. We 3718 03:03:36,040 --> 03:03:38,240 Speaker 29: came very close to like nudging the band that were 3719 03:03:38,280 --> 03:03:41,240 Speaker 29: playing the top forty or I think I've seen a 3720 03:03:41,320 --> 03:03:44,440 Speaker 29: songwriter mentioned I think you mentioned in the song I 3721 03:03:44,480 --> 03:03:49,120 Speaker 29: think you called them radio the bands. Yeah, in one 3722 03:03:49,120 --> 03:03:51,520 Speaker 29: of the songs. You know, it's like this was this 3723 03:03:51,680 --> 03:03:54,880 Speaker 29: is not happening exclusively, but it was happening in other 3724 03:03:54,959 --> 03:03:56,640 Speaker 29: parts of the country and other parts of the world, 3725 03:03:56,760 --> 03:04:00,480 Speaker 29: you know, whether it's whether it's has been all the 3726 03:04:00,520 --> 03:04:03,640 Speaker 29: Philippines or whatever in the band that I'm really good 3727 03:04:03,680 --> 03:04:05,720 Speaker 29: at playing other people songs that I've always in the 3728 03:04:05,800 --> 03:04:09,960 Speaker 29: band still are today. Yeah, it's an incredible thing. I 3729 03:04:10,000 --> 03:04:13,959 Speaker 29: remember walking into a place in Thailand actually where I'm 3730 03:04:14,160 --> 03:04:17,240 Speaker 29: calling from today and thinking that I was listening to 3731 03:04:17,320 --> 03:04:19,600 Speaker 29: recording music when I walked into his nion and I 3732 03:04:19,680 --> 03:04:21,800 Speaker 29: looked and I saw people playing, and I still in 3733 03:04:21,920 --> 03:04:24,240 Speaker 29: the quates in my head. They were so tight and 3734 03:04:24,440 --> 03:04:28,400 Speaker 29: so good at reproducing every nuance of a record, down 3735 03:04:28,440 --> 03:04:30,920 Speaker 29: to the delays and make the affects the voices of 3736 03:04:30,920 --> 03:04:31,400 Speaker 29: them and which is. 3737 03:04:31,400 --> 03:04:32,359 Speaker 12: They were doing redically? 3738 03:04:33,800 --> 03:04:36,280 Speaker 29: You know, it was it was really like it just 3739 03:04:36,400 --> 03:04:38,200 Speaker 29: walked my head and I thought, you know, this is 3740 03:04:38,600 --> 03:04:41,440 Speaker 29: these are people who have really spent time and really 3741 03:04:41,720 --> 03:04:44,520 Speaker 29: really taking a lot of pride in their crafts. So 3742 03:04:45,080 --> 03:04:46,800 Speaker 29: you know, like it's it's one thing going, yeah, we're 3743 03:04:46,800 --> 03:04:48,320 Speaker 29: going to learn that song to play the next time. 3744 03:04:48,480 --> 03:04:50,840 Speaker 29: It sort of a half hours sel of it to 3745 03:04:50,959 --> 03:04:53,440 Speaker 29: do it. Really, I mean, for me when I played 3746 03:04:53,480 --> 03:04:56,440 Speaker 29: it in the band called The Kind, which was just 3747 03:04:56,520 --> 03:04:59,880 Speaker 29: before I left Perfect Contant and we were doing the 3748 03:05:00,080 --> 03:05:02,480 Speaker 29: to see like one night a week, it's really fortant 3749 03:05:02,520 --> 03:05:04,880 Speaker 29: me to have to learn other people's stuff. And I 3750 03:05:05,040 --> 03:05:07,600 Speaker 29: realized even though I was classically brought up in it 3751 03:05:07,680 --> 03:05:09,480 Speaker 29: and in playing cello, and then I went to guitar 3752 03:05:10,200 --> 03:05:13,000 Speaker 29: late life around fourteen, it really was. It was an 3753 03:05:13,040 --> 03:05:15,200 Speaker 29: eye opener and it kind of humbling in for me 3754 03:05:15,200 --> 03:05:17,480 Speaker 29: because I realized that I've been like a three range 3755 03:05:17,560 --> 03:05:20,920 Speaker 29: chicken just running around a mark running a monkey. And 3756 03:05:21,360 --> 03:05:22,920 Speaker 29: I thought I knew a lot about guitar, but it 3757 03:05:22,959 --> 03:05:25,640 Speaker 29: made me realize how little that I actually knew about 3758 03:05:25,720 --> 03:05:28,040 Speaker 29: not just the carp on music and arrangements and called 3759 03:05:28,320 --> 03:05:30,840 Speaker 29: progressions and stuff, and learning other people's songs was like 3760 03:05:30,920 --> 03:05:33,040 Speaker 29: boot camp for me, and it really humbled me. And 3761 03:05:33,320 --> 03:05:35,200 Speaker 29: I thought, you know what, I don't really actually know 3762 03:05:35,440 --> 03:05:39,000 Speaker 29: that much at all. You know, I had to really 3763 03:05:39,320 --> 03:05:42,200 Speaker 29: bunk it down because I'm a perfectionist. I don't if 3764 03:05:42,240 --> 03:05:44,920 Speaker 29: I hear something in my ear, I want to get 3765 03:05:44,959 --> 03:05:46,840 Speaker 29: it completely right. I don't want to just do a 3766 03:05:46,959 --> 03:05:49,560 Speaker 29: fac simile that. I want it to be really accurate, 3767 03:05:49,600 --> 03:05:50,920 Speaker 29: and I really want to copy the. 3768 03:05:51,000 --> 03:05:53,200 Speaker 12: Feel of it as well, not just the technicalities of 3769 03:05:53,320 --> 03:05:55,720 Speaker 12: like yeah, that's a gene seven whatever, blah blah. I 3770 03:05:55,800 --> 03:05:57,600 Speaker 12: want to I want to get every nuance of what 3771 03:05:57,720 --> 03:05:59,800 Speaker 12: someone else has done, and then I can get inside 3772 03:05:59,840 --> 03:06:02,040 Speaker 12: it and then I can make it. If that makes sense. 3773 03:06:02,160 --> 03:06:04,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, Mark, you're talking about that thing with cover bands. 3774 03:06:04,560 --> 03:06:05,680 Speaker 6: I mean it's a classic example. 3775 03:06:05,760 --> 03:06:06,360 Speaker 7: That was Journey. 3776 03:06:06,400 --> 03:06:08,520 Speaker 6: Neil Sean from Journey went to the Philippines and found 3777 03:06:08,600 --> 03:06:11,680 Speaker 6: Unnil their new singer playing, you know, to replace Steve Perry. 3778 03:06:11,720 --> 03:06:13,400 Speaker 7: I mean it was a classic example, wasn't it. 3779 03:06:13,760 --> 03:06:17,320 Speaker 29: Yeah, the Philippines almost like it's actually make a text 3780 03:06:17,360 --> 03:06:20,000 Speaker 29: pride in being like one two three on them track 3781 03:06:20,080 --> 03:06:25,040 Speaker 29: and Field, they which give one to create replacement in 3782 03:06:25,160 --> 03:06:27,680 Speaker 29: any hundred of rage. Yeah, you know, it's the sick 3783 03:06:27,720 --> 03:06:30,960 Speaker 29: part being like making it like the best cover like 3784 03:06:31,200 --> 03:06:33,400 Speaker 29: musicians in the world. Yeah, as far as like being 3785 03:06:33,400 --> 03:06:36,200 Speaker 29: able to replicate and deal it with absolutely all that. 3786 03:06:36,240 --> 03:06:37,840 Speaker 5: You want I didn't know you played the cello, by 3787 03:06:37,879 --> 03:06:41,800 Speaker 5: the way, that's my favorite instrument in the whole world. Now, 3788 03:06:42,480 --> 03:06:44,840 Speaker 5: you were only a teenager when you started out. Were 3789 03:06:44,840 --> 03:06:47,320 Speaker 5: you ever technically still underage when you were playing in 3790 03:06:47,400 --> 03:06:47,640 Speaker 5: the park? 3791 03:06:47,879 --> 03:06:51,920 Speaker 29: Must have been, Oh yeah, yeah, technically underage. It was 3792 03:06:51,959 --> 03:06:54,320 Speaker 29: pretty relaxed back then, and I did get to know 3793 03:06:54,680 --> 03:06:57,160 Speaker 29: the venues and the people I worked on the stuff. 3794 03:06:57,280 --> 03:06:57,400 Speaker 19: You know. 3795 03:06:57,480 --> 03:07:00,400 Speaker 29: I always venture out on Mondays and days, and that 3796 03:07:00,520 --> 03:07:02,560 Speaker 29: was an amazing thing about the scene back then, in 3797 03:07:02,920 --> 03:07:05,760 Speaker 29: you know, eighty five, eighty six, at eighty seven, there 3798 03:07:05,800 --> 03:07:08,960 Speaker 29: were bands playing on Monday nights and amazing band some 3799 03:07:09,080 --> 03:07:11,520 Speaker 29: of the some of the more interesting bands to me 3800 03:07:11,760 --> 03:07:13,720 Speaker 29: as the expand that were playing well, you know, kind 3801 03:07:13,720 --> 03:07:16,640 Speaker 29: of blues bass and soul bats they called the Zeros, 3802 03:07:16,640 --> 03:07:18,879 Speaker 29: which were an incredible band, played a lot of their 3803 03:07:18,920 --> 03:07:21,080 Speaker 29: own songs as well. Going and seeing them with an 3804 03:07:21,200 --> 03:07:23,120 Speaker 29: education for me. And I feel like a lot of 3805 03:07:23,200 --> 03:07:25,680 Speaker 29: what I learned was just from coming off the stage 3806 03:07:25,760 --> 03:07:27,720 Speaker 29: and then going and watching other people on nights that 3807 03:07:27,800 --> 03:07:30,600 Speaker 29: I had off, and so I was on look out 3808 03:07:30,680 --> 03:07:32,840 Speaker 29: every night of the week, and you would back then 3809 03:07:32,920 --> 03:07:35,600 Speaker 29: you can actually go out on a Wednesday homp game 3810 03:07:35,720 --> 03:07:37,680 Speaker 29: to go out on home days and have a choice 3811 03:07:37,720 --> 03:07:40,400 Speaker 29: of not just one band, but got many bands. You know, 3812 03:07:40,520 --> 03:07:43,600 Speaker 29: this is also a time when every suburb in a 3813 03:07:43,680 --> 03:07:47,240 Speaker 29: tribe in theater as well got turned into real estate 3814 03:07:48,240 --> 03:07:52,240 Speaker 29: and every every suburb had a pub that opened the 3815 03:07:52,320 --> 03:07:56,520 Speaker 29: toards to music before pokeys and pistros and kind of 3816 03:07:56,560 --> 03:07:59,440 Speaker 29: critique beers. All of those turns now that are so 3817 03:07:59,600 --> 03:08:03,600 Speaker 29: familiar and so it's kind of secondhand. How do we 3818 03:08:03,680 --> 03:08:06,400 Speaker 29: draw people into our establishment? That was a question, and 3819 03:08:06,480 --> 03:08:07,960 Speaker 29: it was like, how do we get people in here 3820 03:08:08,000 --> 03:08:08,560 Speaker 29: to spend money? 3821 03:08:08,720 --> 03:08:08,879 Speaker 9: Oh? 3822 03:08:09,200 --> 03:08:11,960 Speaker 12: Music, that's that's how we get people in. It was 3823 03:08:12,000 --> 03:08:13,600 Speaker 12: a really simple question back then. 3824 03:08:13,840 --> 03:08:16,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right about your head bands playing places like 3825 03:08:16,160 --> 03:08:17,560 Speaker 6: the Generator at Moly is not there? 3826 03:08:17,680 --> 03:08:20,600 Speaker 7: The Warrik Hotel place the. 3827 03:08:20,640 --> 03:08:23,280 Speaker 29: Best aspect of that and which is the status? And 3828 03:08:24,040 --> 03:08:25,920 Speaker 29: I think when when we lose it is that it's 3829 03:08:25,959 --> 03:08:29,039 Speaker 29: actually the element of communities that that brings to as well. Yes, 3830 03:08:29,640 --> 03:08:32,040 Speaker 29: people together that if you want things to do that 3831 03:08:32,280 --> 03:08:35,480 Speaker 29: want you know the region of course football or any 3832 03:08:35,879 --> 03:08:39,360 Speaker 29: sports in general, school and needs. You know, it's very 3833 03:08:39,400 --> 03:08:42,200 Speaker 29: comple that bring people together that are total standards and 3834 03:08:42,560 --> 03:08:46,280 Speaker 29: they become fans and it's community and it's healthy And yeah, 3835 03:08:46,360 --> 03:08:49,680 Speaker 29: I call it a healthy escapism, but that's kind of 3836 03:08:49,720 --> 03:08:50,120 Speaker 29: what it is. 3837 03:08:50,280 --> 03:08:52,320 Speaker 5: You know, if you're at home and you find yourself 3838 03:08:52,400 --> 03:08:55,800 Speaker 5: driving past the Herdsman where you had a Monday night residency, 3839 03:08:56,120 --> 03:08:58,680 Speaker 5: does it bring back the memories completely? 3840 03:08:58,760 --> 03:09:01,200 Speaker 29: I mean, I'm stuggling to It's like I drive to 3841 03:09:01,360 --> 03:09:03,840 Speaker 29: an area now and persons like having slash backs and 3842 03:09:05,440 --> 03:09:11,199 Speaker 29: familiar it's like and then it's like, that's really different. 3843 03:09:11,240 --> 03:09:14,640 Speaker 29: It's been renovated, and I have to question and I'll 3844 03:09:14,680 --> 03:09:17,640 Speaker 29: see something It's like, oh no, now I recognize. It 3845 03:09:18,080 --> 03:09:20,360 Speaker 29: is like something that's left that you can recognize. But 3846 03:09:20,400 --> 03:09:22,720 Speaker 29: a lot of them have had complete faceless. 3847 03:09:22,720 --> 03:09:28,760 Speaker 7: They're out there at all. Nice cahig, that's scary. 3848 03:09:28,920 --> 03:09:31,120 Speaker 29: Well there you go. Yeah that makes sense. 3849 03:09:31,720 --> 03:09:34,040 Speaker 6: Can't telling Mack to the childs, the beloved childs? I 3850 03:09:34,120 --> 03:09:36,600 Speaker 6: tell us still doing gigs and they still still got 3851 03:09:36,640 --> 03:09:39,760 Speaker 6: the Viking block over the road. Think that tree is 3852 03:09:39,840 --> 03:09:41,360 Speaker 6: still having there? Mind you tell me a story about 3853 03:09:41,360 --> 03:09:43,200 Speaker 6: a tree over there. Once there's some something to do 3854 03:09:43,320 --> 03:09:44,720 Speaker 6: with you having a big night. 3855 03:09:45,720 --> 03:09:47,560 Speaker 29: You remember, well there was, yeah, there was, there's a 3856 03:09:47,640 --> 03:09:49,600 Speaker 29: park across the road there and I was like, my 3857 03:09:49,760 --> 03:09:51,959 Speaker 29: band actually the first when we pull up there, they 3858 03:09:52,000 --> 03:09:54,120 Speaker 29: always qicked and remind me because I told them at 3859 03:09:54,160 --> 03:09:56,480 Speaker 29: one point and I thought it was pretty funny. And 3860 03:09:56,800 --> 03:09:58,400 Speaker 29: I don't have a lot of stories, and you know, 3861 03:09:58,560 --> 03:10:00,840 Speaker 29: vice versa. They always tell each other stories. But for 3862 03:10:00,959 --> 03:10:02,920 Speaker 29: some reason that one, it's like they'd like to rub 3863 03:10:03,000 --> 03:10:06,000 Speaker 29: it in. They should be parking in your favorite and 3864 03:10:07,840 --> 03:10:10,280 Speaker 29: that's you know, it's like the old classic thing is 3865 03:10:10,400 --> 03:10:12,640 Speaker 29: like you've had how many drinks and then someone offers 3866 03:10:12,680 --> 03:10:15,600 Speaker 29: you something to maybe have a pop and get worse 3867 03:10:20,360 --> 03:10:23,240 Speaker 29: happened to the world. It's just gone off as. 3868 03:10:23,280 --> 03:10:28,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, now your songs. Sud I said that your songs 3869 03:10:28,240 --> 03:10:31,320 Speaker 5: were very localized. You did songs about Scarborough and down 3870 03:10:31,440 --> 03:10:32,800 Speaker 5: South and beaches and hot summers. 3871 03:10:32,840 --> 03:10:34,440 Speaker 7: No one else was really doing it at the time. 3872 03:10:35,160 --> 03:10:35,680 Speaker 7: Was good, wasn't he? 3873 03:10:36,000 --> 03:10:36,160 Speaker 14: Look? 3874 03:10:36,280 --> 03:10:39,000 Speaker 29: You know, I was really in a very comfortable bosom 3875 03:10:39,160 --> 03:10:42,320 Speaker 29: of an amazing song that he was. He came out 3876 03:10:42,360 --> 03:10:44,680 Speaker 29: of his bedroom like I met him through the Sunday 3877 03:10:44,760 --> 03:10:47,440 Speaker 29: Times in news paper. That was like how I was 3878 03:10:47,520 --> 03:10:49,120 Speaker 29: meeting a lot of people back then, when I was 3879 03:10:49,240 --> 03:10:51,520 Speaker 29: thirteen and fourteen, I would getting Sunday paper on a 3880 03:10:51,520 --> 03:10:56,680 Speaker 29: Saturday night, bringing and annoying like parents and housemates and 3881 03:10:56,720 --> 03:10:59,440 Speaker 29: stuff like, look they're not hard, just go away all 3882 03:10:59,480 --> 03:11:03,000 Speaker 29: back tomorrow. I'll be that king. I met Bret to 3883 03:11:03,160 --> 03:11:05,240 Speaker 29: this Sunday. But when we started hanging out, I was 3884 03:11:05,440 --> 03:11:07,680 Speaker 29: like fourteen, he was study twenty one, so he was 3885 03:11:07,760 --> 03:11:08,640 Speaker 29: like a mentor for me. 3886 03:11:09,360 --> 03:11:11,720 Speaker 12: And yeah, and he had inclinible knack of just like 3887 03:11:11,840 --> 03:11:16,160 Speaker 12: folding in what was around. He had really great song writer. 3888 03:11:16,120 --> 03:11:19,320 Speaker 29: Influences too, of course, you know, you know he kind 3889 03:11:19,360 --> 03:11:21,760 Speaker 29: of really carried that Australian tradition of kind of like 3890 03:11:21,800 --> 03:11:24,040 Speaker 29: a Paul Kelly or Don Walker sort of writing the 3891 03:11:24,120 --> 03:11:27,920 Speaker 29: song about what was happening around and also things that 3892 03:11:27,959 --> 03:11:30,640 Speaker 29: were happening that, you know, like the gentrification of Scarborough 3893 03:11:30,640 --> 03:11:33,920 Speaker 29: for instance, discuff a hotel and you know, he was 3894 03:11:33,959 --> 03:11:36,120 Speaker 29: the first one to tell me about the Sunday morning 3895 03:11:36,200 --> 03:11:39,440 Speaker 29: session down at Discovery Beach Hotel. Was like, what a 3896 03:11:39,560 --> 03:11:44,000 Speaker 29: Sunday morning What That's like the most hardcore thing I 3897 03:11:44,040 --> 03:11:47,000 Speaker 29: can imagine. And his band that he had a band before, 3898 03:11:47,560 --> 03:11:50,119 Speaker 29: in Fanta, used to play that Sunday morning session. That's 3899 03:11:50,120 --> 03:11:52,680 Speaker 29: how he put his teeth and it was it was 3900 03:11:52,800 --> 03:11:54,959 Speaker 29: like it was a different time. I mean, where else 3901 03:11:55,000 --> 03:11:57,040 Speaker 29: could you go in the world and go and be 3902 03:11:57,200 --> 03:12:00,720 Speaker 29: on on Sunday morning listen tool Band amongst like a 3903 03:12:00,800 --> 03:12:05,080 Speaker 29: bunch of bikers and Hippi. Yeah, basically hipps was actually 3904 03:12:05,080 --> 03:12:08,240 Speaker 29: a thing all getting on together, you know, until someone 3905 03:12:08,800 --> 03:12:15,080 Speaker 29: people over someone's head. Morning until Sunday mornings were pretty 3906 03:12:15,120 --> 03:12:18,640 Speaker 29: mellow and it was just like the tradition thing, you know, 3907 03:12:19,640 --> 03:12:21,680 Speaker 29: morning session and then you go and have a big 3908 03:12:21,720 --> 03:12:23,800 Speaker 29: breakfast after that maybe versa. 3909 03:12:24,879 --> 03:12:26,320 Speaker 17: What was it was like? 3910 03:12:26,760 --> 03:12:31,200 Speaker 3: That was how that's what that other thing makes my 3911 03:12:31,320 --> 03:12:33,840 Speaker 3: knees to think about drinking a beer any morning. 3912 03:12:33,920 --> 03:12:34,080 Speaker 13: Now. 3913 03:12:34,520 --> 03:12:37,920 Speaker 5: The Sunday session, you know, Sunday afternoon session, I mean, 3914 03:12:38,000 --> 03:12:40,280 Speaker 5: that was a thing of that time too, and that 3915 03:12:40,560 --> 03:12:42,480 Speaker 5: was you know, but I'm pretty sure that people just 3916 03:12:42,520 --> 03:12:44,320 Speaker 5: saw it as a the pub is going to close 3917 03:12:44,360 --> 03:12:45,920 Speaker 5: it eight, I've got to drink as much as I. 3918 03:12:46,040 --> 03:12:48,360 Speaker 7: Had, and you've got to do milk the rest of 3919 03:12:48,360 --> 03:12:51,400 Speaker 7: the weekend because to work. Were they the maddest of 3920 03:12:51,480 --> 03:12:52,480 Speaker 7: the shows to do? 3921 03:12:52,680 --> 03:12:56,280 Speaker 29: That Sunday session, Absolutely, you know something about the Sunday 3922 03:12:56,280 --> 03:12:59,640 Speaker 29: afternoon session that was a gateway to kicking on. Basically 3923 03:13:00,480 --> 03:13:03,480 Speaker 29: you'd come out in the summer com especially like a 3924 03:13:03,560 --> 03:13:06,119 Speaker 29: bit of daylight left. Yes, so you'd be like, hey, 3925 03:13:06,320 --> 03:13:08,360 Speaker 29: let's let's go and grab a burger, and then just 3926 03:13:08,600 --> 03:13:09,640 Speaker 29: whose places were going to? 3927 03:13:09,760 --> 03:13:10,480 Speaker 3: What are we doing now? 3928 03:13:10,600 --> 03:13:13,160 Speaker 29: Kind of and of course being Sunday, but the night 3929 03:13:13,200 --> 03:13:15,400 Speaker 29: would kind of cap off because it's a Sunday night. 3930 03:13:15,440 --> 03:13:18,240 Speaker 29: But it was always the biggest party night, always the 3931 03:13:18,280 --> 03:13:21,960 Speaker 29: biggest party night. Yeah, without a doubt, it was the 3932 03:13:22,080 --> 03:13:24,160 Speaker 29: night that all we ended up going into Monday morning. 3933 03:13:24,400 --> 03:13:27,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, who was the first person who called you Diesel? 3934 03:13:27,320 --> 03:13:28,840 Speaker 6: And did that name come from your bass player? From 3935 03:13:28,879 --> 03:13:32,440 Speaker 6: Johnny Delzel or that was that when that initiates. 3936 03:13:33,480 --> 03:13:36,040 Speaker 29: It was from john It was, well, that was one 3937 03:13:36,080 --> 03:13:40,960 Speaker 29: before that learning clear up that I did work in 3938 03:13:41,040 --> 03:13:41,880 Speaker 29: a convenience Dog. 3939 03:13:42,360 --> 03:13:44,400 Speaker 12: Yeah, the name, the name did come from. 3940 03:13:44,720 --> 03:13:46,600 Speaker 29: We were actually band that didn't have a name. And 3941 03:13:47,080 --> 03:13:49,360 Speaker 29: I started writing songs because, like I said before, I 3942 03:13:49,480 --> 03:13:51,560 Speaker 29: was I was in a really kind of you know, 3943 03:13:51,720 --> 03:13:54,600 Speaker 29: comfortable situation where I have someone in the band writing 3944 03:13:54,640 --> 03:13:57,160 Speaker 29: all of the songs and I was just putting my 3945 03:13:57,280 --> 03:13:59,959 Speaker 29: skin on him as a guitar and a few backing dog. 3946 03:14:00,120 --> 03:14:01,760 Speaker 29: Was that after that I had to actually stand on 3947 03:14:01,879 --> 03:14:04,520 Speaker 29: my one two feet and start riding and having you know, 3948 03:14:04,800 --> 03:14:06,920 Speaker 29: fronting my own band. Was was you know at the 3949 03:14:07,000 --> 03:14:10,200 Speaker 29: age eighteen was you know, challenge for me. But I 3950 03:14:10,840 --> 03:14:13,320 Speaker 29: was definitely up for the challenge. I wanted something to 3951 03:14:13,400 --> 03:14:16,040 Speaker 29: happen in that direction. But you know it was it 3952 03:14:16,080 --> 03:14:18,400 Speaker 29: was like Spaby steps and so we started doing these 3953 03:14:18,920 --> 03:14:20,680 Speaker 29: one gig of week. That's the kind of you called it, 3954 03:14:20,800 --> 03:14:23,320 Speaker 29: like a hobby bad you know, surious to see what 3955 03:14:23,400 --> 03:14:25,240 Speaker 29: happened to And you know, I make a chalk about 3956 03:14:25,280 --> 03:14:29,280 Speaker 29: saying that at eighteen dollars, washed up and jaded for 3957 03:14:29,400 --> 03:14:33,240 Speaker 29: like four years, Yeah, and actually broke, you know, complaining that. 3958 03:14:33,640 --> 03:14:36,360 Speaker 29: You know, I was discoggling to like just everything I 3959 03:14:36,400 --> 03:14:39,440 Speaker 29: could move was two garbage bags and I had like 3960 03:14:39,680 --> 03:14:41,880 Speaker 29: one guitar and lamp and a couple of pedals in 3961 03:14:42,240 --> 03:14:46,360 Speaker 29: me and chilling to go a holding target that used 3962 03:14:46,360 --> 03:14:49,480 Speaker 29: to blow chunks out the back and I will be 3963 03:14:49,520 --> 03:14:52,040 Speaker 29: strung that with a miracle I didn't die driving it 3964 03:14:52,280 --> 03:14:52,880 Speaker 29: and things like that. 3965 03:14:53,160 --> 03:14:54,120 Speaker 7: So good time. 3966 03:14:54,440 --> 03:14:54,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. 3967 03:14:55,000 --> 03:14:57,600 Speaker 29: It was one of those cases that like got a 3968 03:14:57,720 --> 03:15:00,200 Speaker 29: call from the Lovely maybe that book the and you, 3969 03:15:00,400 --> 03:15:02,200 Speaker 29: and she was just trying to help us, and she 3970 03:15:02,280 --> 03:15:04,879 Speaker 29: said he get her name. I said, well, not really, Well, 3971 03:15:04,879 --> 03:15:06,200 Speaker 29: I want to put an ad in the paper because 3972 03:15:06,200 --> 03:15:08,480 Speaker 29: you're drawing that to two people on a cockroads and 3973 03:15:09,959 --> 03:15:12,080 Speaker 29: you know you could do a bit of help, you know. 3974 03:15:12,720 --> 03:15:14,880 Speaker 29: And I just heard this found about speed and come 3975 03:15:14,959 --> 03:15:18,840 Speaker 29: over and Col's house car sharing with Johnny and his bend. 3976 03:15:19,000 --> 03:15:21,160 Speaker 29: I can and I had a couple of kids already, 3977 03:15:21,200 --> 03:15:23,039 Speaker 29: and Jane found out that he was she was pregnant 3978 03:15:23,080 --> 03:15:26,640 Speaker 29: again and he'd heard the news Speed and he oh, 3979 03:15:26,760 --> 03:15:29,400 Speaker 29: that's pretty cool, you know, little Johnny dee, I need 3980 03:15:29,440 --> 03:15:33,400 Speaker 29: to injectly and saying to his kids, you know, and 3981 03:15:34,120 --> 03:15:36,680 Speaker 29: the projective is an integral part of the truck engine. 3982 03:15:36,720 --> 03:15:37,360 Speaker 29: Of course, any. 3983 03:15:38,959 --> 03:15:39,800 Speaker 11: Let's done. 3984 03:15:39,920 --> 03:15:42,040 Speaker 29: I was actually sitting on the floor changing strings on 3985 03:15:42,160 --> 03:15:42,920 Speaker 29: my guitar and I'm. 3986 03:15:42,959 --> 03:15:43,800 Speaker 12: Ah, yeah, funny. 3987 03:15:44,480 --> 03:15:46,560 Speaker 29: And then she called back and I could actually I 3988 03:15:46,600 --> 03:15:48,040 Speaker 29: do have a name, and I gave that name to 3989 03:15:48,080 --> 03:15:52,120 Speaker 29: support in the papers to humor. That's great, based John 3990 03:15:52,320 --> 03:15:55,560 Speaker 29: and he saw and what you idiot, you know, you 3991 03:15:55,640 --> 03:15:57,880 Speaker 29: know he's embarrassing whatever, I think a little bit. And 3992 03:15:57,920 --> 03:15:59,680 Speaker 29: then and then the next week came and it didn't 3993 03:15:59,680 --> 03:16:02,040 Speaker 29: get instruments on and on and on, and I think 3994 03:16:02,080 --> 03:16:05,480 Speaker 29: a few months later we met our first manager, you know, 3995 03:16:05,680 --> 03:16:08,840 Speaker 29: branch Echoes, and he was the one that navigated us 3996 03:16:08,840 --> 03:16:10,760 Speaker 29: across the noboley. He's like, well, what are you guys 3997 03:16:10,800 --> 03:16:12,840 Speaker 29: are going to add your name and we're like, yeah, 3998 03:16:13,080 --> 03:16:15,080 Speaker 29: I get so it's like and then he said to me, 3999 03:16:15,360 --> 03:16:16,680 Speaker 29: it's like, well, you know, you're going to have to 4000 03:16:16,760 --> 03:16:19,120 Speaker 29: go along with this because everyone thinks that is you 4001 03:16:19,280 --> 03:16:21,280 Speaker 29: because you're in the middle of the stage singing the song. 4002 03:16:21,760 --> 03:16:22,600 Speaker 12: Yeah, okay whatever. 4003 03:16:24,440 --> 03:16:27,480 Speaker 29: At that point, it's hard to imagine. But this sex 4004 03:16:27,600 --> 03:16:30,680 Speaker 29: is so low I was. I was just completely blade 4005 03:16:30,800 --> 03:16:33,560 Speaker 29: about it. And then of course things sug escalated in 4006 03:16:33,640 --> 03:16:37,040 Speaker 29: the space of like eighteen months and then and you know, 4007 03:16:37,120 --> 03:16:39,760 Speaker 29: I'm trying to like explain to everybody ever since it's 4008 03:16:39,800 --> 03:16:40,560 Speaker 29: actually wasn't me. 4009 03:16:44,240 --> 03:16:45,640 Speaker 12: Good luck with that, right, good. 4010 03:16:45,560 --> 03:16:45,920 Speaker 14: Luck with that? 4011 03:16:46,400 --> 03:16:47,400 Speaker 29: It was named after him. 4012 03:16:47,800 --> 03:16:49,520 Speaker 5: Coming back to Perth in November with the show at 4013 03:16:49,560 --> 03:16:51,520 Speaker 5: the heat ledg Of Theater as part of a new tour. 4014 03:16:51,959 --> 03:16:54,240 Speaker 29: Yeah, It's taken me like a year to get around 4015 03:16:54,320 --> 03:16:56,080 Speaker 29: the country. I've been doing a lot of regional which 4016 03:16:56,080 --> 03:16:59,080 Speaker 29: is fantastic. I love these regional theaters and I'm being 4017 03:16:59,160 --> 03:17:04,240 Speaker 29: an incredible things about they're all right, you know, looking 4018 03:17:04,320 --> 03:17:04,959 Speaker 29: in because it's a. 4019 03:17:05,200 --> 03:17:06,080 Speaker 12: Book so solid. 4020 03:17:06,600 --> 03:17:09,320 Speaker 29: I'm really really excited to be finding such a beautiful. 4021 03:17:09,360 --> 03:17:11,879 Speaker 7: That's a beautiful room is standing there. It's just incredible. 4022 03:17:11,959 --> 03:17:15,360 Speaker 5: Yes, you can catch Diesel at the Ledger Theater November eight. 4023 03:17:15,440 --> 03:17:18,920 Speaker 5: Tickets are available through Artsculture Trust dot w A, dot 4024 03:17:19,000 --> 03:17:22,960 Speaker 5: gov dot au. Mark has been an absolute treat to 4025 03:17:23,080 --> 03:17:25,840 Speaker 5: reminisce with you this morning. Wonderful, wonderful. 4026 03:17:26,480 --> 03:17:26,680 Speaker 14: Yeah. 4027 03:17:27,040 --> 03:17:29,960 Speaker 6: Last time I saw you was at French Friends restaurant, 4028 03:17:30,040 --> 03:17:32,000 Speaker 6: playing a gig to about fifty people. 4029 03:17:33,080 --> 03:17:34,920 Speaker 7: It was one of those nights of world class rock. 4030 03:17:35,000 --> 03:17:35,120 Speaker 14: Rand. 4031 03:17:35,120 --> 03:17:36,320 Speaker 6: I just got to say that because you left the 4032 03:17:36,360 --> 03:17:38,440 Speaker 6: gig you would thank you good night, and you walked out, 4033 03:17:38,920 --> 03:17:40,720 Speaker 6: didn't get to shake your hand. Bit of was sensational. 4034 03:17:41,040 --> 03:17:42,240 Speaker 6: So looking forward to see you this time. 4035 03:17:43,040 --> 03:17:43,240 Speaker 13: Mark. 4036 03:17:43,320 --> 03:17:46,360 Speaker 7: Thank you so much. Thanks bad, thank thank you, bye 4037 03:17:46,400 --> 03:17:49,360 Speaker 7: bye all Thanks time, don't forget. 4038 03:17:49,400 --> 03:17:51,840 Speaker 5: If you have any memories to share, feel free to 4039 03:17:51,920 --> 03:17:54,280 Speaker 5: text us on zero four seven six ninety six ninety 4040 03:17:54,320 --> 03:17:56,879 Speaker 5: six ninety six, and if you have any photos from 4041 03:17:56,920 --> 03:17:58,760 Speaker 5: the time you would like to share with us, send 4042 03:17:58,840 --> 03:18:01,879 Speaker 5: us a Facebook message, Email us at breakfast at ninety 4043 03:18:01,920 --> 03:18:03,280 Speaker 5: six FM dot com dot au. 4044 03:18:03,520 --> 03:18:04,160 Speaker 14: I love it story. 4045 03:18:04,360 --> 03:18:07,240 Speaker 7: Look at little Johnny Diesel, these objectives and it's little injectors. 4046 03:18:07,320 --> 03:18:11,640 Speaker 4: So Good Crazy and Lisa ninety six AFM