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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation. This is an extraordinary story.

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Speaker 1: Our next guest made history this year. She became the

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Speaker 1: first person in Australia to have a uterus transplant. Only

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Speaker 1: a few months after the transplant she felt pregnant. And

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Speaker 1: there's an incredible twist. The uterus that was transplanted was

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Speaker 1: the same uterus that formed her. It was donated from

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Speaker 1: her mum. Well to get to the bottom of what

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Speaker 1: this incredible science is providing for the life of Kirsty,

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Speaker 1: here she is Kirsty Bryant.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, Amanda, how are you going?

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Speaker 3: Very well? Kirsty? What a time we live in that

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Speaker 3: this is happening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah, it's very surreal.

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Speaker 1: Well let's start at the beginning, because you already had

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Speaker 1: a child, but what meant that you could carry that one,

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Speaker 1: but your uterus wasn't right this time round.

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Speaker 2: So after the birth of my daughter Violet in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one, I had a major post part of hemorrhach

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Speaker 2: I lost eleven liters of blood which required a life

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Speaker 2: saving hysterectomy.

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Speaker 1: And so you're the first in Australia to have this.

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Speaker 1: Without this, you could not have got pregnant again.

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Speaker 2: Correct, So after having my daughter, you know, I was, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't prepared to you know, not be able to

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Speaker 2: expand my family. And I did a lot of research

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Speaker 2: and I found the clinical trial through the Royal Women's Hospital,

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Speaker 2: and I knew, you know, without reaching out and being

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Speaker 2: accepted into the clinical trial, I wouldn't be able to

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Speaker 2: expand my family and grow my baby myself. I would

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Speaker 2: need to look at other avenues. So yeah, it's just incredible.

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Speaker 4: So you went to your mom and how did that

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Speaker 4: conversation go? Did you say, so, mom, you're not using

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Speaker 4: it anymore, would you mind?

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Speaker 2: Jonalie. That's pretty much how it went. I had put

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Speaker 2: my daughter. My daughter was six months old, and I

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Speaker 2: put her down for a sleep and I rang my

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Speaker 2: mom at work and she answered straight away, and I said, hey, mom, like, hypothetically,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you could have a surgery and donate

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Speaker 2: your uterus to me for me to make it possible

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Speaker 2: for me to be able to have another baby, you know,

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Speaker 2: would you do that? And she said, oh, where where

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Speaker 2: would that happen? I said, we can, you know, in Sydney,

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Speaker 2: Australia And she said wow, she said yeah, sure, you know, whatever,

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Speaker 2: it takes, whatever you need, and honestly, that's that's pretty

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Speaker 2: much how it went.

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Speaker 1: So you have your ovaries correct, right, and so your

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Speaker 1: mum donated her uterus, and so what kind of operation was?

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Speaker 2: It?

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Speaker 1: Pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 2: So we had Matt S Branstrom, who founded the uterus

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Speaker 2: transplant trial in his country. He came over to Australia

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Speaker 2: and helped the team here. So my mum had a

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Speaker 2: hysteret to me. But it was a little bit more

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Speaker 2: complicated because obviously instead of just removing everything and just

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Speaker 2: taking it out of mum, they also needed to keep

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Speaker 2: the organ alive, so when it was transplated to me,

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Speaker 2: so they took arteries and then when it was put

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Speaker 2: into me it could stay alive. So yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: a pretty big surgery. Mum was in surgery for ten

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Speaker 2: eleven hours and mine was about half that of five

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Speaker 2: or six hours.

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Speaker 1: Wow, and only a few weeks later you felt pregnant.

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Speaker 2: So thirty two days post transplant, I got a period,

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Speaker 2: and twelve weeks later we did an embryo transfer and

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Speaker 2: we felt pregnant on that first embryo transfer, which is what's.

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Speaker 4: Going to make it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had my surgery in January, the Kepta

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Speaker 2: January this year, twenty twenty three, and my baby boy

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Speaker 2: is to December fifteenth.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it wasn't conceived in the old fashion.

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Speaker 2: Why I was about no, correct, because that would have

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Speaker 2: been more science.

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Speaker 4: Like to have that kind of surgery and then go

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Speaker 4: to the old school method.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, oh my god, my husband would have wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have mind but a little bit more science help about it?

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Speaker 1: And how different is this pregnancy to your other one?

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Speaker 1: Do you still feel everything?

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Speaker 2: So? I don't have the nerve that is hooked up

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Speaker 2: to my uterus, but I do still feel the kicks

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Speaker 2: and the movements. Obviously because of the organs around. I

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Speaker 2: didn't feel baby until about sort of twenty weeks this

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Speaker 2: second time round. But overall it's been very similar to

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Speaker 2: my first pregnancy. I am higher risk this time, but

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Speaker 2: I've been looked after by the amazing team that the

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Speaker 2: Royal Women, So I'm just very, very lucky. It's all

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Speaker 2: gone very smoothly.

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Speaker 1: Will you give Can you give birth vaginally?

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Speaker 2: No? I'll be having a plan to varin on the

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Speaker 2: fifteenth of December.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wise.

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Speaker 1: How extraordinary? And has this changed your relationship with your mum.

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Speaker 2: My mum and I have always been quite close. We're

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Speaker 2: a very close knit family, but definitely going through this

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Speaker 2: journey together of you know, major surgery we're both recovering

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Speaker 2: and now me being pregnant. Yeah, it's just obviously strengthened

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Speaker 2: our relationship beyond and then hopefully fingers and toes cross

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Speaker 2: that mum can be in there with me holding my

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Speaker 2: hands with my husband when we have that Sverean section.

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Speaker 1: Just amazing that is. And your son is being just

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Speaker 1: stated in the same womb that you were.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and my brother, that's it's just you know, it's

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Speaker 4: like those Russian Babushka dolls.

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Speaker 1: You're like a But it's wonderful. Kirsty and I know

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Speaker 1: that the Royal Hospital for Women's Foundation all this research

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Speaker 1: was through donations.

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Speaker 2: So mynesoda was made possible through the funding from the

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Speaker 2: Royal Hospital for Women and without their generous the everyone donating,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been able to have my surgery, not

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 1: And today, ironically or not ironically, this is why we're

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Speaker 1: talking to you. Is Giving Day.

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Speaker 2: Yep, correct, So today is Giving Day, meaning any donations

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Speaker 2: made until midnight tonight will be doubled by generous match donors.

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Speaker 3: Excellent. Well this is great. And Michelle, your mamma's weld everything. Okay, Yeah, she's.

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Speaker 2: Doing really well. I would probably say her recovery was

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Speaker 2: a little bit longer than mine. It probably took her

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Speaker 2: about a good six months. But she's back to doing

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Speaker 2: everything she was doing before. She's working, she's looking after

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Speaker 2: the grandkids, to's going to the gym. So yeah, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I know what it's like, Kirsty, to want a baby

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Speaker 1: and not to be able to have one. My boys

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Speaker 1: are IVF, so I'm so pleased that this has been

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Speaker 1: so groundbreaking and for other families to see what's going

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Speaker 1: on for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I can't imagine with all of the breakthroughs

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Speaker 2: that are going on, what will be possible for my

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Speaker 2: children in twenty thirty years time when they go to

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Speaker 2: expand their families. It's just incredible.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing, and it makes us feel bad as parents

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Speaker 4: because I kind of lend my kids a slow.

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Speaker 3: Cooker, but an organ that cooks quite a lot. To

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Speaker 3: think about my relationship, Kirsty. This is an extraordinary story.

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Speaker 3: What a time.

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Speaker 4: We live in the Royal Hospital for Women Foundation Giving

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Speaker 4: Day is on today. To donate you hear what's happening here?

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Speaker 4: I go to dot Royalgiving Day dot org.

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Speaker 3: Kirsty, thank you for joining.

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Speaker 2: Us, no worry, Thank you so much for having me

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Speaker 2: and good luck.

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Speaker 1: With your baby boy. Can't wait to hear you exciting.

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Speaker 3: I just know how everything goes.

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Speaker 2: Thank you,