Speaker 1: Now, look, I know it's been a while, but you've
Speaker 1: really let yourself go.
Speaker 2: Let me.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty we might be able to get visuals of this,
Speaker 1: but if I can give you a bit of a
Speaker 1: description of what Paul's wearing, I'm going to put it on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got his creamy white arms out. He has well
Speaker 1: I want to say it's like the old school blue
Speaker 1: singlet slash wife beater, but it more looks like with
Speaker 1: those man tits, it looks like Donna's crop top. Literally
Speaker 1: have a nipple hanging out the side of your arm.
Speaker 1: I'm like, when did you get whoopy Goldberg tits?
Speaker 2: I do have an explanation. So firstly, you've got to
Speaker 2: driving a land cruise a seventies series, so obviously. But secondly,
Speaker 2: I actually had to have some surgery on my chest.
Speaker 1: So did you get light perception.
Speaker 2: Reast reduction about It's still fun though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, trust me, from this point you've still got lots
Speaker 1: left our fine bags. Yeah right, okay, anyway, good break,
Speaker 1: good good times. Yeah, things were good. Things have had
Speaker 1: a good break went all round. Jesus bloody clocked up
Speaker 1: the Cays on the c barrow our back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you do some nice sort of hiking. And
Speaker 2: what else does siverery drivers do?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: We cut some stuff with scissors.
Speaker 1: My road trip, Missy Higgins got to run the.
Speaker 2: Playlist bet repeat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the rebeat and Sisters is good. I don't believe
Speaker 1: lack dancing. I know there's any or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's your economy been Like, I'm interested because my father
Speaker 2: and Laura told him to get an outpack and he
Speaker 2: got the non turbo. But I'm curious to know where
Speaker 2: you're sitting. They do a bit of towering and stuff
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting point you bring that up, because when I
Speaker 1: did the when I had the test the car, the
Speaker 1: fuel economy fuel economy was sitting in about ten liters per
Speaker 1: hundred k's. So this now, given I hadn't done really
Speaker 1: much highway driving before this road trip, so the first
Speaker 1: three thousand k's have been getting to work them back,
Speaker 1: which is about twelve k's. So I was averaging no
Speaker 1: shit like seventeen leaders per hundred k's and then yeah,
Speaker 1: and then when I was filling up, it was like
Speaker 1: it was saying I was getting I was getting. You
Speaker 1: know how it tells you how many CA's you'll get
Speaker 1: from a full tank. It was saying like two hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty, and then I think it was yeah, and
Speaker 1: then it rounded up to like maybe I think it
Speaker 1: got to about three point twenty at one point, and
Speaker 1: so I rang up my guy down there and actually
Speaker 1: I rang up super U and he's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: do you have a bit of a lead foot. I'm like, mate,
Speaker 1: if I took this to fucking colder park, I couldn't
Speaker 1: get up to seventeen liters.
Speaker 3: So that's true, Yeah, that's true, or yeah, you should
Speaker 3: bring it in. I was like, oh fuck, I can't
Speaker 3: be fucked. I cannot be fucked bring in this car.
Speaker 3: And I don't have the time this time of the year.
Speaker 3: I thought to myself, I'm planning this road trip. I'm
Speaker 3: doing a lot of k's in it. Hopefully it's going
Speaker 3: to go down by then anyway, and you know, you
Speaker 3: do the kind of reset on it and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I managed to get it down to about after a
Speaker 1: lot of highway driving, about eight liters.
Speaker 2: I think's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Well, it was still like eight point something, let's say
Speaker 1: eight point five, right, I've been back for like a
Speaker 1: week or two, and it's crept up to about ten something,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem right because at first I thought
Speaker 1: I reckon, they'd calibrated it wrong. Almost. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's almost like this thing's doing it in miles instead
Speaker 1: of kilometers. It was so weird, but it was yeah,
Speaker 1: it was shitouse, it was shocking. They were just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: bring it in, bring it in. Actually, you know, one
Speaker 1: thing did happen to me. I was out in a
Speaker 1: place called crowdy Head. I bet it was yeah, and
Speaker 1: head is not that great in Crowdy Head, I can
Speaker 1: tell you right now. But so, it was a reasonably
Speaker 1: hot day. It was like thirty degrees and I unlocked
Speaker 1: the car. The electronics sort of unlocked it and stuff,
Speaker 1: so it sort of let me in, but the car
Speaker 1: wouldn't start, and I was like, what the what the fuck?
Speaker 1: And it wouldn't start, and so after I was just like,
Speaker 1: this isn't happening at all. So I took the secret
Speaker 1: emergency key thing out of the clip, I unlocked it
Speaker 1: like that and sort of reset it because it wouldn't
Speaker 1: even turn and the electrics off. And I called Siparu
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, it was. It was pretty hot.
Speaker 1: It was like thirty degrees I'm like, mate, your car's
Speaker 1: literally fucking called outback. It's thirty degrees mate, it ain't
Speaker 1: that hot. So yeah, believe it's sort of like bring
Speaker 1: it in, bring it in. But look otherwise it's fun.
Speaker 2: It sounds great.
Speaker 1: It sounds great. Half, No, I I generally like it.
Speaker 1: It's look teething issues, mate's teething issues.
Speaker 2: But it sounds very annoying.
Speaker 1: Did your father in law have problems with it?
Speaker 2: No, they've had no dramas with theirs. There is non turbo.
Speaker 2: They do a favorit of towing and stuff, so there
Speaker 2: has been perfectly fine. And they've got no idea how
Speaker 2: to use any of the features. So from that point
Speaker 2: of view, it's been all good.
Speaker 1: But did you say features You mean the Apple gar play.
Speaker 2: Literally, he didn't know it had it until I showed
Speaker 2: him the other week, and he's had the car for
Speaker 2: like two years.
Speaker 1: It's a wireless too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Look, the fuel economy is a bit odd, the heating
Speaker 1: thing is a bit strange. I'll get them checked out
Speaker 1: and I'll keep you updated. But look, I have to
Speaker 1: say as a highway car, it's still one of the best. Like,
Speaker 1: it's such a great highway car. The adaptive cruise control
Speaker 1: is amazing on it. We went up to Port mcquarie,
Speaker 1: fuck and hell, I know you bought your Ranger from
Speaker 1: that joint, but Port mcquarie and I got a few
Speaker 1: listeners of this show comment going, oh, how bloody goods
Speaker 1: Port mcquarie, Paul mcquarie is like a giant retirement village
Speaker 1: for fat old people. It's a craze for fat old
Speaker 1: people and everyone goes at this really annoying slow speed.
Speaker 1: It's like it's sort of not quite slow enough to
Speaker 1: toot and get out of the way, but it's almost,
Speaker 1: but it's very much a speed where it's like can
Speaker 1: we can we get a move on?
Speaker 2: It's you. I don't like your city slickers around there, Champion.
Speaker 4: No ungine too much of a Harry and Port mcquarie.
Speaker 5: I like, but no, you know, the thing I thought
Speaker 5: was strange about Port mcquarie, the RSL was great that
Speaker 5: there's like a little cafe on the water as well,
Speaker 5: which is really nice too.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about are you talking about Settlement city?
Speaker 1: You're talking about Yeah, you're talking about Panthers only the
Speaker 1: one and there's a there's a little bar sort of
Speaker 1: thing on the right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds about right. But I thought it was
Speaker 2: odd because there's like a lot of petrol stations, a
Speaker 2: lot of car dealerships for a city that's really not
Speaker 2: that big. I just it baffles me how there is
Speaker 2: so much economic activity. So they must have all just
Speaker 2: had a lot of disposable income that they're spending money on.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, it's just really fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: I think it's very much of a hub of what's
Speaker 1: around it too, because if you kind of look at
Speaker 1: anywhere from say Tari and then you go north of
Speaker 1: Port mcquarie, which would be fucking who knows, it sort
Speaker 1: of feels like a bit of a oh maybe because
Speaker 1: it coughs harbor, I don't know, but it feels like
Speaker 1: a bit of a hub catching yeah, between everything in between.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're right though, you'll get like the big
Speaker 1: Bunnings and you'll get all the car dealerships. And I
Speaker 1: spent New Year's Eve there too.
Speaker 2: Wow did your party like it was nineteen eighty six? Yeah?
Speaker 1: My resolution was do not have New Year's Eve here again?
Speaker 1: But yeah, did you go away?
Speaker 2: No? No, not really.
Speaker 1: I feel like with that singler when I say did
Speaker 1: you go away? It's like talking about prison time.
Speaker 2: It was just six months, you know. Yeah, so it
Speaker 2: was fine.
Speaker 1: You did appear on a list next to Trevor and
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2: So I did have a fine fifty over Christmas. And
Speaker 2: it's somewhat limited where I could go because it was
Speaker 2: the long wheelbase and at six point three or four
Speaker 2: meters long. It's sort of not as to annoy a
Speaker 2: lot of people because every time I parked it, I
Speaker 2: would be in someone's way, and often they were some
Speaker 2: woke sort of Tesla driver that would take issue with
Speaker 2: me driving that thing. But yeah, it kind of limited,
Speaker 2: but for a long distance drive it was so great.
Speaker 2: So did a lot of longer distance highway driving. And
Speaker 2: I can see why Americans love them. They find fifty
Speaker 2: is the best selling car in the States. And it's
Speaker 2: not hard to see ryan.
Speaker 1: Beast of a looking car, such a base like it's
Speaker 1: got such a great presence about it. It's kit it
Speaker 1: out well too, like that can't be ignored. I reckon
Speaker 1: for a long time Americans are really sucked when it
Speaker 1: comes to interior, but that cars kit it out really
Speaker 1: well tech wise too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do a really good job with them. There's
Speaker 2: a whole step of interesting stuff they've got on them,
Speaker 2: but forward, I just don't know how they managed to
Speaker 2: get doing this. But they had just stop selling them,
Speaker 2: stop delivering them because there was a remanufacturing issue. So
Speaker 2: basically the turbo hose was collapsing on itself and causing
Speaker 2: the engine to go into limp mo. Then they just
Speaker 2: had to stop delivering them. All these customers that were
Speaker 2: expecting them just before Chrissy, we're told, nah, he could
Speaker 2: come back later. So I know two guys that canceled
Speaker 2: their orders, like, nah, fuck it, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: wait any longer. I'll just go buy something else. So
Speaker 2: I'm curious to if anyone's listening to this. If you
Speaker 2: had fifty on order, have you kept the order based
Speaker 2: on them sort of fucking everyone around, or are you
Speaker 2: sort of looking for something else.
Speaker 1: I wonder what the wait times are like on those now.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, exactly, so initially there was there was a
Speaker 2: lot of white time, But I really don't know what
Speaker 2: the situation is if they've started deliveries again, and if
Speaker 2: they haven't, the wait time is just going to keep
Speaker 2: growing because no one's actually getting any of their cars,
Speaker 2: So I don't even know if they have a solution
Speaker 2: to the problem. So, yeah, it's a it's a bloody
Speaker 2: weird one.
Speaker 1: Talk about a bloody weird one. He did a bloody
Speaker 1: weird road trip with what's his name, Joe Achilles. Yes,
Speaker 1: are you guys fucking what? I only brief it just
Speaker 1: it was just a little fleing fling.
Speaker 2: No, we did a road trip and it was it
Speaker 2: was good fun and we meant to do a podcast
Speaker 2: episode with with Joe and I think recall you were
Speaker 2: a little sick, had the sniffles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had. I had the social media martis rest
Speaker 1: in peace with Anyway, enough of that, Sorry for our
Speaker 1: social activity is a bit low for for the next
Speaker 1: couple of weeks anyway, not the point. Yeah, No, we
Speaker 1: were supposed to do a little cute little episode with him.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can get him on the zoom sometimes when
Speaker 1: we're all together. Let's put him on the list, let's
Speaker 1: put him on the guest list. Just before you get
Speaker 1: into this, I think it's if you're going to do
Speaker 1: a road trip, i'd say do it in style, especially
Speaker 1: because the Melbourne to Sydney sitting to Melbourne trip, there's
Speaker 1: some there's some great scenery and there's some good toilet stops,
Speaker 1: but my point is do it in a in a
Speaker 1: luxury car, like did you have that? Was it the
Speaker 1: seven series?
Speaker 2: It was the seven series. But I just want to
Speaker 2: challenge your toilet stops because on the New South Wales side,
Speaker 2: the toilets are all like long drops, which I think
Speaker 2: is disgusting for a major highway. It's not like you're driving,
Speaker 2: so if you need to pull over, drop it's when
Speaker 2: you climb.
Speaker 1: Is that a little like a little position that you
Speaker 1: and did that? I'll tell you is what I've got
Speaker 1: a long drop?
Speaker 2: So it's it's when you need to go to the toilet.
Speaker 2: You pull over and you can see the cubicle. It's
Speaker 2: up on stairs and as you approach it, you have
Speaker 2: this horrific smell and you're like, I wonder what that is.
Speaker 2: You get inside the little cubicle, open the toilet lid
Speaker 2: and it's just a hole that goes down to a
Speaker 2: pile of shit and urine and that's the toilet. And
Speaker 2: it's like, surely we are a little more civilized than
Speaker 2: this on a major freeway.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you go to a macasin or something?
Speaker 2: Like that, I don't know where they are. I'm just driving.
Speaker 2: I need to go to the toilet. I thought I'll
Speaker 2: pull over, which I've done in Victoria there's actual toilets. Anyway,
Speaker 2: one of them had a glory hold.
Speaker 1: That I was did you pull over in that sieglet
Speaker 1: You would have got planed right out.
Speaker 2: But seriously, one of the cubicles. We'll get to the
Speaker 2: road trip in a second. I'm sort of sitting there
Speaker 2: looking at the cubicle. I'm like, what is that in
Speaker 2: the wall? And it was a whole bunch of toilet
Speaker 2: paper in a hole and I'm like, that is so.
Speaker 2: And then I walked around to the next cubicle and
Speaker 2: the hole went through to the other cubicle. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I see what this is. Anyway, so we did a
Speaker 2: road trip from Melbourne to Sydney and the theory the
Speaker 2: hypothesis was is it cheaper, specifically for a road trip
Speaker 2: to drive a petrol car or an electric car? And
Speaker 2: we did this at the end of last year because
Speaker 2: we wanted to publish it with Christmas coming up and
Speaker 2: everyone doing road trips if they had an electric car,
Speaker 2: I wanted to show them what is the best thing
Speaker 2: to do. So anyway, we picked the seven Series because
Speaker 2: they sell a seven Series in petrol and also full electric,
Speaker 2: so we wanted to have the same car as opposed
Speaker 2: to just different cars. And of course we wanted to
Speaker 2: not be bored to death, so I thought picked something nice.
Speaker 2: So anyway, we left Hawthorne in Victoria. Both cars were
Speaker 2: at one hundred percent and we wanted to drive to Tarcata,
Speaker 2: which is the halfway point between Melbourne and Sydney, and
Speaker 2: that's four hundred and fifty k's away.
Speaker 1: Now, the car showed, can I just quickly pause you
Speaker 1: there when you started that little road trip of yours?
Speaker 1: And you so you started with a full charge and
Speaker 1: did did Joe what you like to call, brim his tank?
Speaker 2: He did? Now, right right to the to the rim.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. You've got to fucking stop saying. Oh, anyway,
Speaker 1: so we brim the tank like you're something special. I've
Speaker 1: thought about it. When I was filling up. I think
Speaker 1: I was in Tarkata or try Fucker or wherever the
Speaker 1: fuck I was. I'm like, you just fill it. Most
Speaker 1: people fill it up till it clicks a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Now, maybe you want a.
Speaker 1: Little bit of extra juice and check a little bit
Speaker 1: like why the tank.
Speaker 2: No, it's when you bring it. You need to bring
Speaker 2: the fuel until it is about to overflow, because if
Speaker 2: you go to the first click, the clicking in the
Speaker 2: hose is basically air coming back up the hose, and
Speaker 2: when it's a texted it stops the flow. So you
Speaker 2: can depending on density and how full your tank is,
Speaker 2: it might click early. So you need to have a
Speaker 2: visual indicator of where the fuel is, so that is
Speaker 2: called brimming it. So anyway, we bringed a bit and
Speaker 2: so tar cutters four hundred and fifty ks away and
Speaker 2: the electric VMW showed the driving range of five and
Speaker 2: fifty seven or something, and I thought, my drums will
Speaker 2: piss it in. So anyway, we're driving along, and while
Speaker 2: we're driving, we'll stopped for a rebreak at.
Speaker 1: The place with the.
Speaker 2: Whole and I've got a text message from one of
Speaker 2: the girls at the office and she goes, oh, have
Speaker 2: you had any issues with charging because the Optus networks down.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's been charged yet, but I assume it'll
Speaker 2: be okay, and she goes, no, that EV network is down,
Speaker 2: and that was the charger we needed to use in Tarcata,
Speaker 2: and we were still about one hundred and fifty k's
Speaker 2: from Tarkata. So I'm like, well, let's just keep going
Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens when we get there. Anyway,
Speaker 2: as we're getting closer, my range is like dropping rapidly,
Speaker 2: and we get to Tarkata with two percent of battery
Speaker 2: range left, and so the car had lost twenty percent
Speaker 2: of its range effectively because it was going five hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty to start with. And thankfully that charger was
Speaker 2: working despite it being on the on the EV network.
Speaker 2: And just just for those playing at home who want
Speaker 2: a bit of a technical explanation about why an EV
Speaker 2: does that. Basically, when you charge it to full, it
Speaker 2: says it has a computer inside that says, well, my
Speaker 2: program deficiency allows me to do five hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: kilometers if it's driven within a typical drive and a
Speaker 2: typical driver is how they certify these vehicles for their
Speaker 2: driving range. So when you're driving on the freeway, there's
Speaker 2: no real chance for region or a limited chance for
Speaker 2: a region. In addition to that, there's an elevation change
Speaker 2: between Melbourne and Tarkata, so you are predominantly driving uphill,
Speaker 2: so effectively, instead of being in and around the city
Speaker 2: where you're slowing down and speeding up, you're just driving uphill.
Speaker 2: You're just using energy. So that is where you get
Speaker 2: that energy reduction. But the good thing is that when
Speaker 2: you get to Suton Forests down towards Sydney, it's predominantly
Speaker 2: downhill because you're going from an elevation of six hundred
Speaker 2: meters to zero and basically we're able to put twenty
Speaker 2: kilo eight hours of energy back into the battery during
Speaker 2: those descents. So it's got a long story short. We
Speaker 2: got to Sydney, we brimmed the car again right up
Speaker 2: to the rim, and basically found that it was cheaper
Speaker 2: to do the road trip in a petrol car that
Speaker 2: ended up costing almost twenty dollars less, and that was
Speaker 2: ninety eight rong unleaded put into the BMW and fuel
Speaker 2: was expensive as well as two dollars ten at the time.
Speaker 2: And also it was a six minute phil as opposed
Speaker 2: to two hours and eight minutes of sitting there charging.
Speaker 1: So does that surprise you, Uh no, not really, it's
Speaker 1: I mean I've sort of said it before, I think
Speaker 1: anyone and fuck it go back and listen to any
Speaker 1: of our John Kudogan episodes because he puts it brilliantly.
Speaker 1: But if you think for one second, like one you're
Speaker 1: buying an EV to save the planet and fucking reduce
Speaker 1: your carbon foot prints and whatever, you're just not cheaper
Speaker 1: running costs and all that sort of thing. I think
Speaker 1: time and time again this is unless you have a
Speaker 1: way to charge your car at home, you know, off
Speaker 1: peak and all that sort of stuff, I think that's
Speaker 1: probably the better way to do it. But oh, with Solar,
Speaker 1: I think were I've always said, I think we're EV
Speaker 1: stand right now in twenty twenty four are a commuter
Speaker 1: car their grades to sort of commute around cities and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I would not want to do a
Speaker 1: road trip in an EV, Like yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: I'm totally with you on that, and look to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not there yet, Like you've just kind of
Speaker 1: proved a point, like we're definitely not there yet where
Speaker 1: we need to be in terms of like charging infrastructure,
Speaker 1: Like the fuck A network went down and that was
Speaker 1: putting things into disarray, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, and look, the flip side is, you know,
Speaker 2: if you're driving in and around the city, have solar
Speaker 2: at home, and EV will always be cheaper than a
Speaker 2: petrol car to run in those circumstances. And I think
Speaker 2: that with the network going down, if you went to
Speaker 2: a petrol station, you would have been able to put
Speaker 2: fuel in your car, but you wouldn't have been able
Speaker 2: to pay with their post and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: But you still could have paid with cash, which you
Speaker 2: couldn't do at an EB charger. But the other thing
Speaker 2: is that the charge right since we filmed this have
Speaker 2: gone up by almost forty percent depending on what speed
Speaker 2: you choose. And then I mean it is just going
Speaker 2: In the history of electricity prices, they have never gone down.
Speaker 2: And so anyone that thinks that when we move to
Speaker 2: renewables and all this sort of stuff that electricity will
Speaker 2: become cheaper, I mean they are absolutely kidding themselves. And
Speaker 2: that's the case. It means you're charging it's going to
Speaker 2: become more expensive. And then in addition to that, the
Speaker 2: government currently takes forty five forty seven cents per letter
Speaker 2: from petrol excise. So the second act disappears and we're
Speaker 2: all driving around in evs. Guess who they're going to
Speaker 2: come and start taxing, and that is everyone. So just
Speaker 2: because you charge it at home, that I'm going to
Speaker 2: let you get away with that. So yeah, look, I
Speaker 2: think that it is an interesting one. What I did
Speaker 2: find though, is that people get very triggered by this.
Speaker 2: You either had the people that are just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I fucking told you evs are just shit. Everyone I
Speaker 2: told you. So then you had the flip side, which
Speaker 2: was people who love evs who were telling us about
Speaker 2: everything we did wrong or everything they thought we did wrong,
Speaker 2: to the point where some of the stuff was just fanciful.
Speaker 2: They were like, oh, you should have stopped here, here, here,
Speaker 2: and here, and it would have been cheap. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but I already wasted two hours and eight minutes charging
Speaker 2: You want me to hour waste even more time going
Speaker 2: off the freeway and going into some town because there's
Speaker 2: some charger next to our hotel somewhere. Yeah, there's just
Speaker 2: a lot of Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, this is a fucking simple road trip. This isn't
Speaker 1: like some strategy plan where I'm trying to that'st find
Speaker 1: clues like, yeah, we're not a road trip level for
Speaker 1: this sort of stuff. Yet we're just not.
Speaker 2: No, And look as an EV owner. When it came
Speaker 2: to Christmas time, I had the fin fifty. I chose
Speaker 2: to drive that everywhere we went because there is no
Speaker 2: way I want to get stuck in a queue with
Speaker 2: other people waiting to charge and all that sort of nonsense.
Speaker 2: Even if I didn't have the Finn fifty, I would
Speaker 2: have driven my Raptor. There's no way I would drive
Speaker 2: an electric car during busy peak periods on longer road trips,
Speaker 2: because it is just a recipe for disaster. That's what
Speaker 2: my thought.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what did you find it to be
Speaker 1: a smoother ride like? Because obviously it's an EV. I've
Speaker 1: always said that evs and luxury cars just go together
Speaker 1: so well, And to me, I reckon, that's at the moment,
Speaker 1: at this point in time, that's where the EV market
Speaker 1: is excelling. Is a luxury car game?
Speaker 2: Well, look not really. I mean the seven was lovely.
Speaker 2: It was really nice to drive. It was like thirty degrees.
Speaker 2: We had the pulled seats running, air conditioner was cranked,
Speaker 2: so it was all fine. But Joe and the seventh boardy,
Speaker 2: I mean it's the same car. It weighs six hundred
Speaker 2: kilos less, so the riders typically better, and he ended
Speaker 2: up using something like six leaders per one hundred ks,
Speaker 2: which is nothing. And I mean if you switch out
Speaker 2: his car for a Wrap four hybrid which uses two
Speaker 2: leaders per one hundred less and can run on ninety
Speaker 2: one run fuel as well, it would be even cheaper. Still,
Speaker 2: So I think that as a road trip vehicle, it's
Speaker 2: just a it's a no brainer. You know what you
Speaker 2: would have thought when yd brought the three and they
Speaker 2: had issues with a tether point in the center seat
Speaker 2: in the second row and they had to stop sail
Speaker 2: and fix it. Wouldn't you at that point have gone, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm bringing a car into Australia. I'm going to triple
Speaker 2: check that there is a place where I can hook
Speaker 2: my kid up to in the middle of the second row,
Speaker 2: because it is a rule, and someone has just been
Speaker 2: dicked for this. Matt memo didn't get through the wizards
Speaker 2: at Tesla because the Model three is now no longer
Speaker 2: on sale and can no longer be delivered to customers,
Speaker 2: and the customers that do have a car now have
Speaker 2: doubts over whether they could actually keep driving it because
Speaker 2: they had this exact same issue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how they overcome this.
Speaker 1: So basically what's happened is Tesla have had to pause
Speaker 1: sales in Australia because their center Child's restraint to the
Speaker 1: point has not been installed. They've got the two end ones,
Speaker 1: but compliance in Australia says you need to have the
Speaker 1: middle one if you've got the middle seat. Now byd
Speaker 1: did this go about eighteen months ago and had to
Speaker 1: stop the sales, as you said, of the A three,
Speaker 1: but they managed to kind of clean that up fairly well.
Speaker 2: So did some really good crime coms on that as well.
Speaker 2: Say that again, you guys did some really good crisis
Speaker 2: comms on that at Big ID as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you. Sorry, Hang on, what's that
Speaker 1: Emperor Mao take him out? Yes, sir, I just want
Speaker 1: to say so, I am here with the Alliance, Yes,
Speaker 1: locked into the regime. I'll take him out. That's the anthem,
Speaker 1: isn't It's.
Speaker 2: Not an inspected gadget.
Speaker 1: The Emperor Mao is just like on a big throne,
Speaker 1: like I'll get you next time, Marrik, next time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The compliance thing is fucking how what are you doing?
Speaker 1: You're the most popular, well known EV company on the planet.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows who you are. You think your boys down
Speaker 1: at the Compliance Division would kind of check when they're
Speaker 1: launching the new thing in to Australia.
Speaker 2: You know, you know what as well? I reckon someone
Speaker 2: at the Department of it's the Department of hold on,
Speaker 2: let me read this out because I thought it was
Speaker 2: the funniest thing in the world. It is the Department
Speaker 2: of Department. No, no, it was the Department of Transport
Speaker 2: and Planning. Apparently it's on the Department of Transport, Agriculture
Speaker 2: Planning and corn Flags or whatever it is. But someone
Speaker 2: they would have gone, Okay, I have nothing to do
Speaker 2: every day, and they would have seen this come in
Speaker 2: and gone, oh my god, we have hit them other load.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to stop saleon this. They must just
Speaker 2: sit there and go please, just don't have a top
Speaker 2: ten point in the middle.
Speaker 4: Jeffrey, Jeffrey, you're not going to believe what you fucking
Speaker 4: happened to you Teshler have made a big old cock up.
Speaker 4: I can't wait to fucking talk to the boys about
Speaker 4: this one.
Speaker 2: Yes, no, I am.
Speaker 4: I'm getting to getting only bit of a stiffy over it.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen you in forty years It's like seeing
Speaker 4: an old friend yish madey tishla fucked up. Oh Jesus,
Speaker 4: I was thinking, my bloody blow dust.
Speaker 1: That's how I imagine driver's sex will have. Guys wonder where
Speaker 1: that kupra took him over the holidays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he loves defending that thing as well, which is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, loves it. Hey, listen, Chinese ev brand Zeka are
Speaker 1: coming to Australia. These guys are owned by well of
Speaker 1: the same people who own Volvo and Pollstar and is it?
Speaker 1: Is it the Geley group?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I was thinking when this news article came across my desk,
Speaker 1: this is just totally sidetracked. I once wrote a bit
Speaker 1: of copy for Geely Technically, yeah, I write a radio
Speaker 1: ad for Proton, Remember Proton?
Speaker 2: Was it the jump Buck Satria?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the jump I think it could have
Speaker 1: been the jump Buck or was there like a Proton
Speaker 1: three or something? That jumbuck was there, fucking ute, wasn't it?
Speaker 2: That's it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I felt like there was like a Proton three
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know what it was, but I
Speaker 1: remember Geely also own Loaders. Yeah, I've got a feeling
Speaker 1: it was. I was riding it because some of the
Speaker 1: chassis or some of the parts were designed by loaders.
Speaker 1: In this Proton something.
Speaker 2: Like engineered by loaders that had a badge on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was their big claim to fame. Anyway, Zeka
Speaker 1: coming to Australia. What do you make of these cars?
Speaker 1: By the way, Well, I saw.
Speaker 2: One at Munich Airport last year and we were driving
Speaker 2: in and I'm like, what the fuck is that? And
Speaker 2: it was the stupidly fast sedan thing that has a
Speaker 2: very inspired design from the Nis and GTR concert and
Speaker 2: it looked absolutely unreal and I started googling it. I'm like,
Speaker 2: holy crap, thisstening looks amazing. So they really are just
Speaker 2: all about this radical design and just having a look
Speaker 2: at what Volvo is doing with the X ninety and
Speaker 2: X thirty. I just think that whole group and what
Speaker 2: they're working on at the moment is just really fascinating.
Speaker 2: So I think it is pretty cool they're coming to Australia.
Speaker 2: I just love that we're getting so much variety now
Speaker 2: in terms of what's on sale in Australia. It means
Speaker 2: you don't have to just settle for the same thing
Speaker 2: that everyone else has. So yeah, I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see them here and take one
Speaker 2: for a spin.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think I'm looking forward to these actually,
Speaker 1: because competition is always a great thing. It brings prices down,
Speaker 1: it's good for the consumer, the more for us to choose,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people like go Jesus bloody Chinese cash.
Speaker 1: But I mean, these guys are bringing what looks to
Speaker 1: be an awesome I think it's I'm looking.
Speaker 5: At the.
Speaker 1: Zero zero one. I think it is kind of looks
Speaker 1: like a plot. I don't know, it looks mad, though
Speaker 1: it looks so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I agree. I am excited for
Speaker 2: their arrival.
Speaker 1: Okay, so everyone would remember a month ago that viral
Speaker 1: footage that went around. I think it was originally by
Speaker 1: car Well on YouTube, but the footage of the cyber
Speaker 1: truck taking on a nine to eleven in a drag
Speaker 1: race quarter mile. Not only did the cyber truck win,
Speaker 1: but it revealed that it was actually winning whilst towig
Speaker 1: another nine to eleven. There's an Instagram at account Court
Speaker 1: and believe it or not, I follow them. I think
Speaker 1: you'd think it's just something nerdy Pavelai would follow, but
Speaker 1: it's called Engineering explained, they've busted them, right, they've busted
Speaker 1: this to be a little bit of I guess a
Speaker 1: little bit of hohoha, a little bit of showbiz magic.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Jason of Engineering explained he actually runs a
Speaker 2: YouTube channel and he's famous for standing in front of
Speaker 2: a whiteboard and just explaining stuff in layman's terms, and
Speaker 2: he decided to tackle the issue with the cyber truck
Speaker 2: on the nine to eleven because I did see that
Speaker 2: footage as well. I was a little just confused by
Speaker 2: it all there, and when Elon Musk claimed that the
Speaker 2: cyber truck was quicker across the quarter mile than a
Speaker 2: nine to eleven while also towing a nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: I thought, my spidy senses are tingling, because there's a
Speaker 2: number of issues with this. A cyber truck across the
Speaker 2: quarter mile is moving at a rapid pace if it's
Speaker 2: as fast as a nine to eleven, Therefore it needs
Speaker 2: to have a trailer with tires that are speed rated,
Speaker 2: and towing a car at that speed is just a
Speaker 2: stupid idea. So that those things were alarm bells to me.
Speaker 2: And also they didn't reveal which nine to eleven it was,
Speaker 2: so Anyway, Jason basically debunked this whole thing and discovered
Speaker 2: that in the video, they only raced across the eighth mile,
Speaker 2: So quarter mile is four hundred and two ish meters,
Speaker 2: the eighth mile is half that distant. Then, when he
Speaker 2: delved a little further, he discovered that even if Tesla
Speaker 2: used the slowest Porsche on sale, which is the Carrera
Speaker 2: T manual, that the cyber truck, yeah, the cyber truck
Speaker 2: towing something and then towing a car as well, could
Speaker 2: still not be faster than the nine to eleven. And
Speaker 2: he basically laid it all out in perfect terms. And
Speaker 2: the lead engineer for the cyber truck saw this video
Speaker 2: and decided to reply in ad is two cents. And
Speaker 2: what he revealed, which I just think is totally ridiculous.
Speaker 2: He revealed that they only filmed it across the eighth mile,
Speaker 2: which we know. He also then revealed the reason they
Speaker 2: did into the quarter mile is because the trailer had
Speaker 2: tires that were only speed rated to eighty miles an hour,
Speaker 2: which is not fast enough to do anything of interest.
Speaker 2: And further to that, he said they simulated the quarter
Speaker 2: mile and that it would beat the nine to eleven. Now,
Speaker 2: there's a few issues with this, so they never actually
Speaker 2: did it, So simulating it is just nonsense, and then
Speaker 2: claiming it's faster when you never actually tested it is
Speaker 2: just stupid.
Speaker 1: One's cool. The secondary the other ones called actual practice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the second part is that being a manual transmission
Speaker 2: video that requires a driver that is expertly skilled in
Speaker 2: shifting gears fast in that specific car to achieve the
Speaker 2: optimum time. Now, if you're making a video where you're
Speaker 2: claiming you're faster than this other car, you have a
Speaker 2: vested interest in the driver of that car being just
Speaker 2: a little bit shit. So I mean, why would you
Speaker 2: not just pick a PDK nine to eleven where all
Speaker 2: you have to do is press the brake and press
Speaker 2: the throttle and everything else just happens. And the reason
Speaker 2: is it would not be quicker. So they've absolutely ripped
Speaker 2: it apart, and the engineer then self incriminated himself by
Speaker 2: basically admiting they never actually tested it.
Speaker 1: This kind of falls back to my theory of I
Speaker 1: think the people who love this car, who love the
Speaker 1: cyber truck, do not give a shit. I mean, the
Speaker 1: fact is it's done its purpose, whether it was a
Speaker 1: quarter mile or like a half quarter mile whatever it
Speaker 1: is an eighth mile.
Speaker 2: Onn't what was it an eighth past that class to make.
Speaker 1: You it's kind of irrelevant because the whole shot of
Speaker 1: it is, it is what it is. It's sort of
Speaker 1: honest to an extent. But yes, the whole quarter mile, Oh,
Speaker 1: we simulated it and it fucking still works and it
Speaker 1: would beat the nine to eleven. That's ridiculous. That's you
Speaker 1: kind of enclaim. That's basically a hypothesis versus practice. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It's really fast as it is. It's like it is
Speaker 2: the acceleration figures for that vehicle already out of this world.
Speaker 2: So why would you then go and make up this
Speaker 2: shit that you know isn't true and then just play
Speaker 2: it like it's just so stupid.
Speaker 1: On the I think it's marketing. We're in a visual world.
Speaker 1: People like aren't in consumers of this, Like, fuck, do
Speaker 1: you know who drives a cyber truck? Farrell? Farrell drives
Speaker 1: a cyber truck. He's his super producery. He was part
Speaker 1: of a thing called the Neptunes. He's quite a famous
Speaker 1: muso and he's also now like the head creative director
Speaker 1: of like Gucci or something like that. So that's your
Speaker 1: audience of a truck is someone like Pharrell. They just
Speaker 1: want their friends to go check out my car. It
Speaker 1: can beat a nine to eleven until a nine to eleven,
Speaker 1: even though it's not really true, true, it's showbiz true.
Speaker 1: That's enough for an influencer. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That would just I'll just flick their hair and carry on.
Speaker 1: But interesting one to kind of go, guys, you've just
Speaker 1: been shot on and sort of that engineer probably should
Speaker 1: have just shut his mouth a little bit. By the way,
Speaker 1: do you know should we just finish out with a
Speaker 1: couple of question to you from the gram?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Okay, these will be rapid fire questions, so
Speaker 1: let's not think too hard about it. Should be easy
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 1: This one's from Marty Party. Do you think petrol vehicles
Speaker 1: kept installed in good nick would be lucrative in twenty
Speaker 1: or thirty years as an investment? Are I mean? Yes,
Speaker 1: obviously it depends of what car, right, But yes, yes, depends.
Speaker 2: On the car. But I will definitely have some in storage.
Speaker 1: This one is from Mitchell sup Brother falcon Or Commodore
Speaker 1: and why I'm going to say Commodore, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've got a greater affiliation with a
Speaker 1: Commodore the great Australian car, right, I mean they look better,
Speaker 1: they drive faster.
Speaker 2: Gushing, So it depends on the era. For me, there
Speaker 2: were some eras where falcon were better than Commodorees and
Speaker 2: vice versus. It really depends. I do only have HSV's
Speaker 2: at the moment, but I will look to change that
Speaker 2: in the near future.
Speaker 1: I still reckon that XU six is an amazing forward.
Speaker 2: By the way, x six tuber or the six.
Speaker 1: How is Donna's New Year? Let's throw that to Pavla.
Speaker 1: That was from Liam. How was how was Donna's New Year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, sweaty, that's no fireworks? All right?
Speaker 1: Am I ever a pair of lee We'll go out
Speaker 1: with a bang doll on. You know it's weird. Started
Speaker 1: off this episode saying Paul's on the zoom with the
Speaker 1: blue wife beater singleer where his man boobs look like
Speaker 1: Donna's croup top. So obviously where you are there would
Speaker 1: have been a window. So the sun has gone down,
Speaker 1: so all I can basically see is you're faded over time.
Speaker 1: There's like all I can see is like this big
Speaker 1: Croatian cheesy smile and those creamy kind of arms that
Speaker 1: haven't seen the light of day in a long time.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I can barely see that pair.
Speaker 2: Of duns have just come out. Don't worry that safety's on.
Speaker 2: It's okay.
Speaker 1: Someone called doctor Chris Brown. Those swans are sick. What
Speaker 1: is that under your arm? Is that Donald's vagina? Anyway,
Speaker 1: It's actually so this whole episode you've gently faded out.
Speaker 1: It's like an episode of Law and Order. I'm just
Speaker 1: waiting for it to go for executive produce a dig wolf.
Speaker 2: It's a metaphor for this episode.
Speaker 1: Yes, this question comes from Doug. Should we import Oh,
Speaker 1: should we import the larder nivar again?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I reckon. I'm just sick of I don't know,
Speaker 2: just especially with all this Hindraus stuff that's happened since
Speaker 2: our last episode. And we'll talk about that in the
Speaker 2: next episode. I just am sick of people being told
Speaker 2: that they can and can't do it. And the reason
Speaker 2: it won't get improported is there'll be some safety idiot
Speaker 2: that just says you can't have it. It'll be the
Speaker 2: same safety idiot that's off the sale on that Tesla. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it'll be some stupid rules someone put in place, you
Speaker 2: know anyway, But yes, I think they should, but they won't.
Speaker 1: From Henry, give your thoughts on the new Gi Yarus.
Speaker 1: I like the Gi Yrris. I don't know. I'm guessing
Speaker 1: he's talking about the one that's out right now.
Speaker 2: I added an automatic transmission, and okay, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: the interior looks a bit stupid, but I am very
Speaker 2: keen to drive it because of the seating position which
Speaker 2: is lower. And I'm very keen to see what that
Speaker 2: auto transmission is like as well, because maybe it was
Speaker 2: it was fine, but just an auto in that, if
Speaker 2: it's good, should actually really give it a bit of
Speaker 2: a reinvigoration.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm keen to drive it. I like to see.
Speaker 1: I love the manual in it. Personally. I think it's good.
Speaker 1: The prices are coming down on those those og Gi
Speaker 1: yarisis as well, which is good to see. I'm worried
Speaker 1: because I feel like this will be like when they
Speaker 1: just stuck the auto in the Golfer and there was
Speaker 1: no manual. It's just like this one comes from Oh,
Speaker 1: This comes from a regular listener intrigues coop. When's the ah,
Speaker 1: this is a good one. When's the new line of
Speaker 1: merch coming out?
Speaker 2: I did see a little tease.
Speaker 1: On your Yeah spoiler it is out and we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that in a second. And are we getting are
Speaker 1: we getting GTA style merch as well? Where we can
Speaker 1: organize that, we can get into that. We'll talk about it.
Speaker 2: There is there you enjoy your creativity there? I was
Speaker 2: quite thank you.
Speaker 1: You can tell I was too much of a fractionary
Speaker 1: bo mcquarie. This one again comes from in tree coup.
Speaker 1: What's the best card to buy? Unto sixty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: that you see being a future collector car? So I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is new or old. Actually he
Speaker 1: does say new or old, So maybe we can do
Speaker 1: one of each. Let me see sixty thousand dollars old,
Speaker 1: I mean I would still go fuck, they've got their problems,
Speaker 1: but I'll still go a nine nine to six. I
Speaker 1: reckon you could get under sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'd be going down the path of if we're
Speaker 2: talking new. We just spoke about it for the gr yars.
Speaker 2: I reckon that car in ten or fifteen years time
Speaker 2: will be the most bizarre thing to have on the
Speaker 2: road and it will be cool withst car to have
Speaker 2: on the road.
Speaker 1: Do you reckon? You could get the new Type R
Speaker 1: that's probably.
Speaker 2: About seventeen three grand.
Speaker 1: You cough up an extra ten grand and that'll be
Speaker 1: a fucking classic, or I may just do that, give
Speaker 1: the Type R. So look, merch's out, Merch's here. We've
Speaker 1: got a lot of it, So big ups to Gus
Speaker 1: from Machines Plus for that legend. We are going to
Speaker 1: announce something in the next episode. We've got a few
Speaker 1: things to announce actually coming up, some exciting stuff for
Speaker 1: everybody plan this year. And yeah, two big things which
Speaker 1: we will announce next episode. In the meantime, if you
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Speaker 1: I'm going to put that photo of you Indian bloody
Speaker 1: man busy singlet up on the Socials, by the way,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to tag you in it and I'm
Speaker 1: expecting a shower. See if you put that one, if
Speaker 1: you game enough to put that on your own brand,
Speaker 1: actually better not Joanna Greggs on it a dribble bib
Speaker 1: she already does.
Speaker 2: Well. Thank you around for listening. Hopefully we'll have our
Speaker 2: next episode out sooner than the rather extended that over Christmas.
Speaker 1: But anyway, thanks for listening to Ron. Catch you next time.