WEBVTT - The Death Of Influencer Brands

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Tammy Hembro

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<v Speaker 1>sparks rumors of a sponsored wedding menu. Is Lily Brown

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<v Speaker 1>one step closer to a proposal? Kicks marketing saga continues

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<v Speaker 1>and our influencer brands out of vogue as five of

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<v Speaker 1>the influencers pull the pin on their self led brands.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, this is the only Olympic love story that

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<v Speaker 1>matters to me, Sophie, and it's between a man and

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<v Speaker 1>a muffin. Norwegian distance swimmer Henry Christensen has made headlines

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<v Speaker 1>around the globe after going viral on TikTok for his

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<v Speaker 1>love of the ultra chocolate muffins served up at the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic village. I was kind of shocked though, to see

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<v Speaker 1>that the Olympians were fueling their body with these types

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<v Speaker 1>of desserts. I thought that they would have had to

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<v Speaker 1>stick to a very strict nutritious diet plan. In the Leader,

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<v Speaker 1>we clearly haven't seen any of Michael Phelps what he

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<v Speaker 1>eats in a day diaries, because I think especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a swimmer, you have to consume so many calories

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<v Speaker 1>in order to have the energy to actually compete. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be thinking like pastas or grain or I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>assume a large chocolate muffin. Well, everyone needs a treat,

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<v Speaker 1>and these chocolate muffins are hot property at the Olympic

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<v Speaker 1>village right now, especially after Henrik's videos have gone viral.

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<v Speaker 1>They have clocked up millions and millions of views and

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<v Speaker 1>he has been dubbed the muffin Man. I really hope

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<v Speaker 1>that the French catering company who has provided these muffins

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<v Speaker 1>is locking him in for some sort of sponsorship opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he has genuinely come out and said how

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<v Speaker 1>much he loves them, but it'd be a really cute collaboration.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he's going to be hot property because before the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics began, there were a lot of articles talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how the Olympians not only had to perform on the

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<v Speaker 1>track or in the pool, but it was important for

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<v Speaker 1>them to appeal to followers on TikTok. That was there

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<v Speaker 1>one opportunity to get lots of followers, and since posting

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<v Speaker 1>ten videos on these chocolate muffins, this athlete has been

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<v Speaker 1>able to gain over two hundred and eighty seven thousand followers.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't got gold, he hasn't got seal, we hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even got bronze. But this guy, everyone is going to

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<v Speaker 1>want to do some kind of collaboration with him because

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<v Speaker 1>he is now the authority on what is hot and

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<v Speaker 1>what is not in the food world. Yeah, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating when you think about it, because it was only

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<v Speaker 1>really the Olympians who won gold who would go home

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<v Speaker 1>with brand deals back in the day, or they be

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<v Speaker 1>put on a serial box. But now athletes have the opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>with the use of TikTok and other social media platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>to make their mark on the advertising world. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Kick Concierge. How may I help you? Last week, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a massive response to our segment on Kick's contentious

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<v Speaker 1>marketing campaign and just to quickly refresh your memories, Kick

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<v Speaker 1>CEOs Steph gless Smith and Laura Henshaw spent days dropping

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<v Speaker 1>Easter eggs to build anticipation for a big announcement. However,

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<v Speaker 1>many followers were left confused and underwhelmed when they revealed

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<v Speaker 1>they were offering a Kick Concierge service. Why did I

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<v Speaker 1>just get in my head at Concierge know how they

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<v Speaker 1>were saying in the commercial. Now, what that involved was

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<v Speaker 1>a gimmicky hotline where customers could speak directly to Steph

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<v Speaker 1>and Laura over the phone about selecting the right polaratees

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<v Speaker 1>program for them. And I do want to point out

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<v Speaker 1>the Polarates is already a feature offered on the app,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a new offering now as part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Concierge service for those who didn't want to talk on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, because let's be real, millennials and gen Zettors

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<v Speaker 1>will literally do anything to avoid speaking on the phone. Surely, though,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's to Laura Henshaw and Steph Claire Smith, people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to want to that. Well, I would feel

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<v Speaker 1>awkward anyway. Well, they offered an online quiz for those

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't feel comfortable making the phone call to discover

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<v Speaker 1>which Polarates program worked best for them, and many followers

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<v Speaker 1>said they felt let down as they were anticipating a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger announcement due to the hype surrounding this campaign. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw Amber from Influencer up Dates talking about this on

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<v Speaker 1>her Live on Friday, and she said she actually tried

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<v Speaker 1>to call the number, but it was engaged. So while

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people were disappointed by it, obviously, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people also called the line to try and

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<v Speaker 1>get to talk to Stephan Laura. Yeah, there were also

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of followers convinced that this announcement was going

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<v Speaker 1>to have something to do with periods because throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>campaign there was a lot of Moron branding and also

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<v Speaker 1>the word flow was used a lot. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>saying Amy that we felt like we'd almost seen this

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<v Speaker 1>ad before. Yeah, I thought it was a Libra ad,

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<v Speaker 1>but someone actually pointed out to us on TikTok it

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<v Speaker 1>was the Bond's Bloody Comfy Hotel ad that it resembled.

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<v Speaker 1>And as soon as I looked it up and saw

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<v Speaker 1>this ad on YouTube, I was like, wow, this is

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<v Speaker 1>so similar. Well, it followed a very similar format where

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<v Speaker 1>a female concierge welcomed viewers to the Bond's Comfy Hotel

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<v Speaker 1>and she was dressed in a dark pink suit and

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<v Speaker 1>she very similar to Laura and Steph. She had a

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<v Speaker 1>gold badge on. There was an old school telephone that

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<v Speaker 1>was being used. Let's throw to the clip Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bonds, Bloody comfy hotel where everyone's free to period

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<v Speaker 1>however they want.

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<v Speaker 2>We even offer womb service.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Kick Concierge. How may I help you? It's

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<v Speaker 1>your first time? Oh you're looking for it to last

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<v Speaker 1>five oh ten minutes? You'd go, queen, have a bloody

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<v Speaker 1>comfy stay. We've got just the flow for you. We

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<v Speaker 1>hope you have a wonderful workout. It was almost a

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<v Speaker 1>bit awkward watching these videos side by side because they

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<v Speaker 1>were so similar. Even the puns were kind of similar.

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<v Speaker 1>It made me wonder whether Kick internally came up with

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<v Speaker 1>the concept or whether they were pitched the concept by

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<v Speaker 1>a large marketing company, because doctor, I'd be annoyed if

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<v Speaker 1>I paid a lot of money for a creative concept

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<v Speaker 1>to discover the Bonds ran a very similar ad last year,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly when both girls do work with period undie brands,

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<v Speaker 1>which are in complete competition with Bonds. Now. This led

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<v Speaker 1>me to do a bit of digging, and what's quite

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<v Speaker 1>interesting is that Laura Henshaw's husband Dalton, runs a marketing

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<v Speaker 1>company called Bullfrog, and having a look at the company's Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see that they have worked on a number

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<v Speaker 1>of Kicks recent marketing campaigns. So it leads me to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that maybe they were responsible for this recent campaign

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Well. It might explain why Laura Henshaw was

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<v Speaker 1>quite sensitive about the commentary because we uploaded a short

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<v Speaker 1>segment on our TikTok account and it attracted over ninety

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand views and eighty three comments. So some people

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<v Speaker 1>said that they were underwhelmed by the campaign and they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand the concept, while others said the campaign achieved

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<v Speaker 1>what it set out to do, which was to get

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<v Speaker 1>people talking about it. One user wrote under our video,

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<v Speaker 1>they make women in business look so dark? Or are

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<v Speaker 1>they personal trainers? What expertise do they have? So Laura

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<v Speaker 1>Henshaw saw this comment and she ended up turning this

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<v Speaker 1>comment into a TikTok response video which she also shared

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<v Speaker 1>on her Instagram, and she made it a very gender

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<v Speaker 1>based issue and she asked the woman if she would

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<v Speaker 1>judge and ask a male CEO for their qualifications. And

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<v Speaker 1>what's particularly interesting is that her husband Dalton wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>the comments section, small minds discuss other people and gossip,

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<v Speaker 1>good minds discuss events, great minds discuss ideas. We all

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<v Speaker 1>get to choose what we discuss and whilst this could

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<v Speaker 1>be a message supporting his wife. I also saw it

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<v Speaker 1>as him being somewhat defensive over his team being responsible

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<v Speaker 1>potentially for this campaign. I was really frustrated to see

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<v Speaker 1>this commentary online because it suddenly became this gendered issue

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<v Speaker 1>when it really wasn't supposed to be, and it upset

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<v Speaker 1>me because we have always been really supportive of KICK.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Laura and Steph are amazing business women,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is their campaign that has been talked about

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<v Speaker 1>widely online, and I don't think as female podcasters that

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<v Speaker 1>we should have to pretend and say that it hit

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<v Speaker 1>all of these different marks when we thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>a letdown. I also think it would have been very

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<v Speaker 1>patronizing and non genuine if we just hyped up this

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<v Speaker 1>campaign purely because it's run by two women. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to also point out that this is a multimillion dollar

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<v Speaker 1>business that is not just run by Stefan Laura. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a huge marketing team behind it. Well, they would have

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<v Speaker 1>paid probably like fifty thousand dollars or so for a

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<v Speaker 1>campaign like that, probably more. It's going to be disappointing

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<v Speaker 1>when people aren't wowed by it, but it gives them

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to go away and next time, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to come out with an amazing campaign wedding

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<v Speaker 1>menu tasting. Just three months out from their much anticipated wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy Hembro and her fiance Matt Sakowski have given followers

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<v Speaker 1>an insight into what will be on the menu. The

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<v Speaker 1>announcement of their caterer has many to question if this

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<v Speaker 1>portion of the wedding is being sponsored. Yeah now. Tammy

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<v Speaker 1>made the announcement on her TikTok last week, sharing a

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<v Speaker 1>video of the wedding tasting process, and in the caption

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<v Speaker 1>she announced that her wedding is being catered by Little

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<v Speaker 1>Truffle and Ridgeway Catering, which is a business located at

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<v Speaker 1>Mermaid Beach on the Gold Coast Now. The wedding tasting

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<v Speaker 1>was held at the company's fine dining restaurant, which appeared

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<v Speaker 1>to have been open privately just for them, and Tammy

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<v Speaker 1>looked beautiful. She was wearing a white Natalie Rolt dress,

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<v Speaker 1>whilst Matt wore black trousers and a white shirt, and

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<v Speaker 1>the restaurant was empty apart from a fourteen seat table

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<v Speaker 1>that had been set up for the couple's family. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it because normally when you do a wedding tasting,

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<v Speaker 1>you're only allowed to bring two or four people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very contentious. You have to be very selective. You

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<v Speaker 1>generally have to invite your parents. But it was nice

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<v Speaker 1>to see that Tammy had her sisters Amy and Emily

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<v Speaker 1>joining them. Also think it's funny because most of the

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<v Speaker 1>time you have to sit with a bunch of other

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<v Speaker 1>brides grooms who are having their wedding around the same

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<v Speaker 1>time as you. This looked very luxurious to have the

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<v Speaker 1>whole restaurant to yourself. Well, when I saw this video,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, surely this must be some kind of sponsorship arrangement,

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<v Speaker 1>because not only did she share this TikTok, but her

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<v Speaker 1>fiance Matt, also shared a ton of Instagram stories and

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<v Speaker 1>he tagged the caterer. Yeah. My guess is that they've

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<v Speaker 1>set up a contra deal where they're exchanging the food

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<v Speaker 1>and wine for exposure. Either that or maybe the caterer

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<v Speaker 1>is providing a large discount in return for exposure as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a tough one because when you're a bride, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's nice to tag small businesses that you work

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<v Speaker 1>with and give them a little shout out along the way. However,

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, when you're Tammy Hembro and you have

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen point four million followers on Instagram, you're probably not

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<v Speaker 1>just giving them a shout out to be nice. This

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<v Speaker 1>probably is a contra deal. Yeah, well, it's always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a bit sas, isn't it, because you can

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<v Speaker 1>share about an experience without actually tagging the business. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>she as you said, she named the caterer. She also

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<v Speaker 1>included plenty of shots of the signage, vision of her

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<v Speaker 1>speaking one on one with the head chef, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as a lot of shots of the food. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming there was no hashtag sponsored or gifted or no,

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't. I have to say though a side note,

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<v Speaker 1>this food looked incredible. They did have the usual things

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<v Speaker 1>for counterpis like oysters and aaronchini balls, but they just

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<v Speaker 1>looked so fancy. They also had delicious looking past amy,

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<v Speaker 1>which I was like, you would love that you had

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<v Speaker 1>pastor at your wedding. And it's no surprise because the

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<v Speaker 1>chef in question has worked at a Michelin Star restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I mean, food's so important at a wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also very expensive, so imagine getting it gifted. I

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<v Speaker 1>always find wedding tastings funny because it's really the only

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<v Speaker 1>chance you actually get to try the food. Because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about you, Amy, did you even eat any

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<v Speaker 1>of your dinner at your wedding? I ate a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but as soon as I got back after the wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>I was starving because you just you leave so much

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<v Speaker 1>of it on your plate and it gets whisked away

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly. The shit thing about having your wedding near

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<v Speaker 1>a winery is generally there's not a McDonald's that you

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<v Speaker 1>can stop off for takeaway, Like, there's just nothing around there. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why you have to stock up and have stuff

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<v Speaker 1>back at your accommodation. I remember we were smashing some

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<v Speaker 1>cheeseboards after both of ours. That was the best part.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't believe, though, that this wedding is only

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<v Speaker 1>three months away. Now. It's even more wild when you

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<v Speaker 1>consider that we only found out about Tammy and Matt

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<v Speaker 1>as a couple in September last year, so things have

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<v Speaker 1>moved super quickly. Well, Tammy's followers are getting excited. One

0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.040
<v Speaker 1>commented this is my royal wedding, to which Tammy did

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<v Speaker 1>a crying face back, whilst others took it as an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to take a dig. One commenter said it's like

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<v Speaker 1>your twentieth wedding, and Tammy hit back, writing never been married.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I love that she takes a swipe in the

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<v Speaker 1>comment section. Now it be pissed off. Yeah, you like,

0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even got this far before further she's got now.

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<v Speaker 1>A day after Tammy posted about the tasting, she shared

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<v Speaker 1>that she was in hospital for a plant surgery and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of her followers so she shared a photo

0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.080
<v Speaker 1>of her hospital bracelet and wrote, just had surgery. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be posting a YouTube video about it when I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>bit more recovered now. Matt, being the doting fiance, came

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<v Speaker 1>to pick her up from the hospital and he marked

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<v Speaker 1>the occasion with a hospital selfie in the lift, and

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<v Speaker 1>this led to more intrigue and interest about what Tammy

0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:24.240
<v Speaker 1>had had done. Influences love taking photos at hospitals, Oh,

0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.040
<v Speaker 1>because it must just pick their engagement up so much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like those Facebook friends that will just

0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.440
<v Speaker 1>check in at the hospital. Yeah, they won't actually say

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<v Speaker 1>why they're there, and everyone be like, oh, Hannah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a Rita. You're all right, I'm the DM you. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a bit weird because instead of going home,

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<v Speaker 1>they spent the night at a hotel and matt had

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<v Speaker 1>left a couple of surprises to cheer Tammy up, so

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<v Speaker 1>on her bedside table he left a bouquet of roses

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<v Speaker 1>and some lollies and oreos and a handwritten note that

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<v Speaker 1>said I love you always and forever, Matthew. It just

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<v Speaker 1>cracked me up because the note was so sweet, but

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like it had been done in pencil, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was very childlike the writing. I think it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>cute that he did that. I know everyone's been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how Tammy Hembro is worth millions and millions of dollars,

0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.240
<v Speaker 1>but if you look at it, he's got her some chocolates,

0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.080
<v Speaker 1>He's got her some lollies. He's he's picking up the

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<v Speaker 1>supermarket flowers like I've seen those flowers so like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like a bouquet from a flora, which is quite relatable.

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<v Speaker 1>I read some article recently and it was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how Travis Kelsey had bought Taylor Swift. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was fifty eight thousand dollars worth of clothes after he

0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.360
<v Speaker 1>left the eras tour. Yeah, he'd picked out all these

0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.760
<v Speaker 1>options and it just sounded very unrelatable. But I would

0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.080
<v Speaker 1>hate a man picking out my clothes for me. I

0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.320
<v Speaker 1>know he's a bit of a fashionist, but that's I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather just here, here's a fifty eight thousand dollars gift

0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.400
<v Speaker 1>out for clothes. Yeah, if you're dropping fifty eight thousand,

0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you hope that you would actually like the clothes. Yeah. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>On Saturday, Tammy finally revealed the reason for the surgery,

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<v Speaker 1>and she explained on her tiktop that she had her

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<v Speaker 1>breast implants removed and had new implants put in. So

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<v Speaker 1>she said that her implants were now eight years o

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<v Speaker 1>and she'd become quite unhappy with the way they looked.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite funny how she described it, because she said

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<v Speaker 1>they looked more like cousins than twins because due to

0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.600
<v Speaker 1>training her chest a lot, they started to move further

0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:15.720
<v Speaker 1>and further apart, and her plastic surgeon advised her that

0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.800
<v Speaker 1>she either needed a breast lift, but if she wanted

0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to avoid that, she could just get bigger breast in plants.

0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.360
<v Speaker 1>So she opted for the bigger breast in plants. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to get them replaced every ten years, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's probably the smarter solution. Yeah. Well, she ended

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<v Speaker 1>up showing what they looked like in a sports bra,

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<v Speaker 1>and they do look considerably bigger than the previous implants.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, we saw them a few days after

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<v Speaker 1>surgery when she was very swollen, so it's not really

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<v Speaker 1>indicative of what they're going to look like long term.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a big thing to get that kind of surgery

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<v Speaker 1>three months out from your wedding. It right when Chris Jenna,

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<v Speaker 1>just when I got a facelift before was it Kim's wedding.

0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.200
<v Speaker 1>She decided she wanted to look her best. I can

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<v Speaker 1>see why she's chosen to get them done before her wedding,

0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.120
<v Speaker 1>because everyone pumps up wedding for the photos that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>always remember, you'll always look back on. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>look your best. You going to look the best you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever looked, isn't that right? Yeah? Cazus who up there, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to show you the kitchen. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with him. Bali based influencer Talia Scanes has announced

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<v Speaker 1>she's shutting down her fashion line Scans the label after

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<v Speaker 1>just three years in business. Her decision comes off the

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<v Speaker 1>back of four other ossie influencers pulling the pin on

0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.640
<v Speaker 1>their self led brands, leading us to question if influencer

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<v Speaker 1>brands are out of vogue. So I would you buy

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<v Speaker 1>from an influencer brand? Look, it would really depend on

0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.880
<v Speaker 1>who the influencer is and what the product is, because

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<v Speaker 1>in the past I have been guilty of purchasing from

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<v Speaker 1>influencer led brands, but nowadays I'd be somewhat embarrassed to

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<v Speaker 1>be seen, particularly in an influencer brand's clothes, like to

0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.600
<v Speaker 1>have a big ZEP across my back or so, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if the influencer brand has the influencers name it it,

0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.360
<v Speaker 1>people are less likely to want to look like a

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<v Speaker 1>fangirl or rep that brand. You don't really want to

0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.960
<v Speaker 1>be a walking billboard for an influencer. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>can also really tell the difference between influencers who are

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<v Speaker 1>just flogging off drop shipped items or they've just slapped

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<v Speaker 1>their name on a tracksuit, to those who have legitimately

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<v Speaker 1>invested time and money into building a business and surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>themselves with industry experts. And when it comes to the

0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:24.320
<v Speaker 1>smaller scale influencers, it's often a one person show, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the quality of the product can be really

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<v Speaker 1>average and you're just paying for someone's name to be

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<v Speaker 1>attached to it. Well, there's so many brands that have

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<v Speaker 1>popped out recently that are just hoodies or trackies and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and people are over it. They don't want to buy that.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd rather buy a good quality item that you actually

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<v Speaker 1>know is being produced in perhaps an ethical factory, or

0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.800
<v Speaker 1>it's good quality items, it's not just some ship piece

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<v Speaker 1>of shit. Yeah, you want to actually know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>investing in an item that has been designed properly, that

0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.400
<v Speaker 1>it's in an ethical factory. Well. Yeah, And you've only

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<v Speaker 1>got to look at the success of influencers like Sammy Robinson,

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<v Speaker 1>Georgie Stevenson and Britney Saunders to see how influencers should

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<v Speaker 1>set up a business because they have worked so much

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<v Speaker 1>on the branding. These are hugely successful standalone business And

0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the thing is they are really unicorns in this space.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the top percenters who have been super successful

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<v Speaker 1>with their brands. I mean, you look at Britney Saunders,

0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:24.560
<v Speaker 1>whose store Fate is opening at sixth Store. There's Sammy Robinson,

0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.720
<v Speaker 1>She's got one Mile, who's about to open its first store.

0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Then we've got Georgie Stevenson, who has grown her supplements

0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:35.200
<v Speaker 1>brand Naked Harvest into a twenty million dollar empire. However,

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia, these influencers are anomalies. The tide really seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be turning on influencer brands because this year we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen Abby Chatfield, m Davies as She Binds, and Sophie

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<v Speaker 1>Keasha all shut down their brands, and then this week

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen Tarlia Skeines. I was surprised that it took

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<v Speaker 1>this long for her to shut the brand down though,

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<v Speaker 1>because yeah, I know that she had third Fix with

0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:02.119
<v Speaker 1>her ex boyfriend Mitch, and you could tell that he

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<v Speaker 1>was really the one that was passionate about it and

0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.320
<v Speaker 1>that maybe Talia had just launched this business as a

0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:11.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of I don't know, it was more of Mitch's idea. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the full seven minute video where she explained

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for the closure and it was a real

0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.359
<v Speaker 1>struggle to get through because it took her three minutes

0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:24.120
<v Speaker 1>to reveal what the announcement actually was about. But breaking

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<v Speaker 1>it down, the reason Talia has decided to shut down

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<v Speaker 1>the label is because she says she has too much

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<v Speaker 1>on her plate. Here's what she said, at this stage

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<v Speaker 1>of my life, I want to be more said old.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be more relaxed and calm, and not

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<v Speaker 1>yet but in a few years time and Jack and

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<v Speaker 1>I will hopefully be welcoming some little babies into the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to feel like that when I

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<v Speaker 1>had babies. Now. She's currently living in Bali with her

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend Jake Sijano, who's a big property developer over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are building the biggest fuck off feller called

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<v Speaker 1>Casasu and she's also planning on returning to Australia soon

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<v Speaker 1>to start renovation a house that they've bought in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>And she said that there's a bunch of other projects

0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.359
<v Speaker 1>that she wants to work on that she's more passionate about,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're involving interior design. So I predict that she

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<v Speaker 1>would rather spend her time creating maybe YouTube content about

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<v Speaker 1>the renovation, because there's so many successful renovation vlogs and

0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.480
<v Speaker 1>YouTube series and I think that there's a real niche

0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:25.080
<v Speaker 1>market for that. She would be fantastic because she actually

0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.520
<v Speaker 1>has the budget to produce one of those. Wow homes.

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<v Speaker 1>They just need to get a good videographer to film it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. But I think the reality more so is

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<v Speaker 1>is anyone actually buying from Skins the label. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen any push on social media. I don't even really

0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.720
<v Speaker 1>know what they sell is at bathes, they sell a

0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:47.320
<v Speaker 1>bunch of bathers, tracksuits, skirts for around the pool. They're

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<v Speaker 1>shutting it down because they probably have no money coming in.

0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they have like one sale every six months and

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<v Speaker 1>then they're like, oh fuck, we've got to go and

0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.760
<v Speaker 1>post this out. Well, she actually has a team back

0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:00.760
<v Speaker 1>in Australia who handles all of that, and she touched

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<v Speaker 1>on the fact that she hasn't done many drops this

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<v Speaker 1>year and she just doesn't have the desire to put

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<v Speaker 1>her time into it, and Amy I do agree. I

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately think it came down to a lack of demand

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<v Speaker 1>because even though she didn't touch on the financial side

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<v Speaker 1>of things, it would be so hard for her clothing

0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:19.720
<v Speaker 1>brand to be seen and desired in this overly saturated market. Already,

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<v Speaker 1>reading between the lines, she's also making enough money through

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<v Speaker 1>the influence of work that she's doing that she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even need to continue doing this label. I also think

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<v Speaker 1>she's getting ready to start moving into the next stage

0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:34.160
<v Speaker 1>of her life. She discussed how she wants to start

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>thinking about having a family and she's trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>realistic about what she invests her time in. It was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to read the comments section of the post where

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<v Speaker 1>Talia announced the closure because ash Bines wrote, just did

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. More. People need to honor where they

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.800
<v Speaker 1>are right now, regardless of where they were six months ago.

0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.960
<v Speaker 1>M Davies, who also closed down her line, wrote, good

0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 1>on you for putting yourself first, Darling. It's a tough decision.

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.679
<v Speaker 1>And Leilah Graham, who was a model in influencer and

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:04.040
<v Speaker 1>swimwear designer, wrote can relate to this so much, something

0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:07.199
<v Speaker 1>that also isn't spoken enough about in biz. Proud of you.

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<v Speaker 1>These comments are making me think even more so that

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<v Speaker 1>we are seeing this downturn in influencer led brands and

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<v Speaker 1>there is a lack of desire and want from the

0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.640
<v Speaker 1>general public to support these brands and to wear these brands. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what I think it is is that most influencers, if

0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:26.680
<v Speaker 1>they have a hugely engaged following, they could bring out

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<v Speaker 1>a hoodie and maybe the first drop would sell out.

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<v Speaker 1>But unless they actually put in the effort to grow

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<v Speaker 1>the brand, it's not going to have any longevity. So wait, now,

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<v Speaker 1>who is your celebrity crush? That's what I'm trying to think.

0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:41.920
<v Speaker 1>There was mine? Oh Chris Emsworth? Come on now, I think,

0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:43.600
<v Speaker 1>but my boyfriend kind of looks like Chris Elmsway to

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<v Speaker 1>hear me, now, Sophie. In our subscriber episode on Friday,

0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:50.200
<v Speaker 1>we took a look back at our twenty twenty four

0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:53.560
<v Speaker 1>influencer predictions which we made at the start of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>and so far we've done pretty well. Yeah. I was

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<v Speaker 1>so surprised with how many predictions we got right and

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.359
<v Speaker 1>how many were also on the right track with because

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:05.200
<v Speaker 1>we've still got a couple of months yeah to tick

0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:07.720
<v Speaker 1>them off. Yeah, we do. And one that we're still

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:11.159
<v Speaker 1>waiting on to come true is Jet Kenny proposing to

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Lily Brown. So you can imagine my surprise this morning

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 1>when I saw a Daily Male headline which read wild

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.760
<v Speaker 1>reason Jet called off proposal to Lily. I haven't clicked

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<v Speaker 1>on an article so quickly, so ball, they've done their job. Yeah. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw the headline, I thought, Jet, please don't

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<v Speaker 1>stuff up our predictions, like just get your shit together,

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<v Speaker 1>just propose. But when I read a bit further, I

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<v Speaker 1>realized the article wasn't all it appeared to be a way.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lily and Jet are currently holidaying in Hawaii and

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<v Speaker 1>they attempted to walk up the Stairway to Heaven, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a popular trek which leads hikers up to the

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<v Speaker 1>best view on the island. So Lily had had a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty big night beforehand drinking, but she's still attempted to

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<v Speaker 1>climb the stairs with Jet. It wasn't really a great idea,

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<v Speaker 1>considering there are three thousand, nine hundred and twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>steps to climb, so she took to her Instagram stories

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<v Speaker 1>to tell her followers things hadn't gone quite to plan.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lily revealed that she was so hungover that she

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<v Speaker 1>began dry reaching and they had to call it quits

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<v Speaker 1>halfway up, and by the time she got to the bottom,

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<v Speaker 1>she spewed in her mouth and started crying out of

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<v Speaker 1>frustration for quitting. So Lily wrote on her Instagram story.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to make things worse, Jet decided to throw in

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<v Speaker 1>what if I was going to propose at the top,

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<v Speaker 1>and this comment was meant to lighten the mood. Lily continued,

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<v Speaker 1>writing that she cried like an actual baby all the

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<v Speaker 1>way back to the car, as she was a hungover

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<v Speaker 1>loser who had given up and still was ringless. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it was a dick move of him to

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<v Speaker 1>make that joke. I think it's clear that weddings and

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<v Speaker 1>proposals are definitely on the agenda for them, and that

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<v Speaker 1>must be something that they're speaking about a lot. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a lighthearted joke, and I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>personally wouldn't want to be proposed to after a long trek, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I just you usually want to be looking your best.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to be a sweaty mess. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>reminiscent of when Kurt was going to propose to Sarah's

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<v Speaker 1>day up on a mountain in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it was the same trap. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up losing his bottle and not proposing, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was pissed off because he ended up proposing just

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<v Speaker 1>at their hotel on the balcony when she was in

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<v Speaker 1>her pajamas feeling sick, and she's like, why do you

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<v Speaker 1>do it on the bloody mountain? Well, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>Jet is going to propose by the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we'll be able to tick off that prediction. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be around Christmas time. That's when they got together.

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<v Speaker 1>It's around the two year anniversary. I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>ring is currently being made as we speak. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>end of the year, and there are some hilarious ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh by far the most requested guest, former Love Island

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<v Speaker 2>UK star turn TV host Olivia Atwood has opened up about.

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<v Speaker 1>The moment she found out that her now husband Bradley

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<v Speaker 1>Dak was cheating on her. Now, I want to point

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<v Speaker 1>out that the couple are now happily married and the

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<v Speaker 1>cheating took place when they first started dating. I was

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<v Speaker 1>living for this interview because you are a massive Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>Atwood fan. You really fought to have this segment in

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode, Ida because it's so juicy. So, for those

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know, Brad is a professional soccer player and

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<v Speaker 1>he and Olivia got married in a very lavish wedding

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<v Speaker 1>in June last year. So the couple have their own

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<v Speaker 1>reality show called Olivia Meets Her Match, and Brad was

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<v Speaker 1>the most highly requested guest on Olivia's new podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>this interview did not disappoint. So first off, Olivia and

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<v Speaker 1>Brad discussed how they'd met out at a nightclub and

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<v Speaker 1>she was so open and on her She was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really rate you, like I didn't like what

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<v Speaker 1>you were wearing. However, she went through a bit of

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>a dry patch and she was showing photos to her

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<v Speaker 1>mum of guys who had shown interest in her, and

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:17.679
<v Speaker 1>her mom was like, I'll give him a chance, like

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<v Speaker 1>he's cute. So she gave him a chance and they

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<v Speaker 1>began dating for a few months. But this is when

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<v Speaker 1>alarm bell started ringing for Olivia because she received a

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<v Speaker 1>few phone calls from his soccer player teammates. So Olivia

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<v Speaker 1>said that the men had really stuck their necks on

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the line. As she since discovered, there is a religious

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<v Speaker 1>liked pack that all soccer players have when it comes

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 1>to keeping secrets for their teammates. So she said, the

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>unspoken code in football is you deny until you die.

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<v Speaker 1>This must have been pretty bad, though, this cheating, if

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<v Speaker 1>they had to actually read their teammates' girlfriend. What did

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 1>she say had happened? Well, the teammates rung up and

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>said are you dating Brad? Because there had been no

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>photos posted on either of their Instagram accounts, And she said, well, yeah,

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I and they said, well, from what we've heard, he's

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 1>still dating his ex girlfriend. And she went to Brad

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and said, well, what's going on? And he just denied it.

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<v Speaker 1>He denied and I denied. Now things escalated when Olivia

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 1>received a phone call from a private number. Let's have

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 1>a listen to what she said.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I was in Germany for the F one

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<v Speaker 2>and I got a call off a block number.

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<v Speaker 1>It was late at night, and I never answered block numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know something in your gut, it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>I just learned off the bed and I was like Hello.

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 2>This girl was like really upsets, like hello, and she

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<v Speaker 2>was like who's this and she was like, it's Brad's girlfriend.

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, whoa again?

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Please bother And then we had a chat and basically, yeah,

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>you had been seeing her as well as May.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, how do you feel about that? Obviously it's not

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>very nice. This would have been so awkward for Brad

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>to have to sit there and be part of telling

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>this story. But we kind of have Brad to thank

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 1>for Olivia being on Love Island because she was approached

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the show whilst she was dating Brad,

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>but she had turned down the opportunity. However, when she

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<v Speaker 1>found out Brad was cheating on her, the first thing

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>she did was ring back a producer and said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I would do anything to be on this later series

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>of Love Island. And they were like, well, you've kind

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>of messed us around. We don't know you bit of

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>a loose cannon. They said, if you can fly out

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>in ten days, we'll have you on the show. So

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Olivia told Brad never to speak to her again, and

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<v Speaker 1>she kept it quiet that she was going to appear

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<v Speaker 1>on Love Island until the day before she departed. So

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>as soon as Brad found out, he was devastated and

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>he came to a house to beg her not to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have a listen to what they said. You didn't

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>want to go either.

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I felt like I loved you, but obviously I was

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 2>ashamed of that, just represent on everything.

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>That I understood why he was going, but you didn't

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>want to go.

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was hot, but then once I got that

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 2>ADHD thing so outside out of mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So once I was in Spain, it was good. I

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>was ready to heal. I find it so fascinating that

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<v Speaker 1>they dated before Love Island and then they had that

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>huge time apart and then ended up getting married. Well,

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it was such a fuck you for her to appear

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<v Speaker 1>on the show because apparently Brad like one of his

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>favorite shows is actually Love Ireland, and she asked him

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast, did you sit down and watch it?

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<v Speaker 1>And he admitted that he watched the first episode, but

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>then he was like, fuck this, I can't watch this.

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>This is so awkward. But Olivia has said she really

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>wants him to see the series because she still thinks

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it was one of the best Love Islands, which I

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>have to agree, and she said Honestly, if you can

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<v Speaker 1>get past seeing me on camera kissing other guys, I

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>really think that you should commit the time and watch it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how long was it until they got together after the show? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she ended up leaving the show with Chris Hughes and

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>they came second, and then they had that follow up

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 1>reality TV show. So that's the thing. I was thinking

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that she was with the one of the guys for

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a long time after No, they well, they had a

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>reality show and it only lasted three episodes. I was

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>meant to run for like eight episodes, and so she

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<v Speaker 1>got back with Brad not that long after. Interesting. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is the moral of the story. If someone cheats

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<v Speaker 1>on you, go on a reality tea to piss them

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<v Speaker 1>off and then you might have your happy ending after it. Well,

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