1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Tammy Hembro 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: sparks rumors of a sponsored wedding menu. Is Lily Brown 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: one step closer to a proposal? Kicks marketing saga continues 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: and our influencer brands out of vogue as five of 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: the influencers pull the pin on their self led brands. 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: But first, this is the only Olympic love story that 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: matters to me, Sophie, and it's between a man and 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: a muffin. Norwegian distance swimmer Henry Christensen has made headlines 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: around the globe after going viral on TikTok for his 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: love of the ultra chocolate muffins served up at the 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Olympic village. I was kind of shocked though, to see 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: that the Olympians were fueling their body with these types 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: of desserts. I thought that they would have had to 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: stick to a very strict nutritious diet plan. In the Leader, 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: we clearly haven't seen any of Michael Phelps what he 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: eats in a day diaries, because I think especially if 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: you're a swimmer, you have to consume so many calories 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: in order to have the energy to actually compete. But 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: I'd be thinking like pastas or grain or I wouldn't 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: assume a large chocolate muffin. Well, everyone needs a treat, 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: and these chocolate muffins are hot property at the Olympic 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: village right now, especially after Henrik's videos have gone viral. 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: They have clocked up millions and millions of views and 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: he has been dubbed the muffin Man. I really hope 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: that the French catering company who has provided these muffins 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: is locking him in for some sort of sponsorship opportunity. 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: I know he has genuinely come out and said how 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: much he loves them, but it'd be a really cute collaboration. 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 32 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: Well, he's going to be hot property because before the 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: Olympics began, there were a lot of articles talking about 34 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: how the Olympians not only had to perform on the 35 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: track or in the pool, but it was important for 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: them to appeal to followers on TikTok. That was there 37 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: one opportunity to get lots of followers, and since posting 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: ten videos on these chocolate muffins, this athlete has been 39 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: able to gain over two hundred and eighty seven thousand followers. 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: He hasn't got gold, he hasn't got seal, we hasn't 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: even got bronze. But this guy, everyone is going to 42 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: want to do some kind of collaboration with him because 43 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: he is now the authority on what is hot and 44 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: what is not in the food world. Yeah, it's so 45 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: fascinating when you think about it, because it was only 46 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: really the Olympians who won gold who would go home 47 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: with brand deals back in the day, or they be 48 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: put on a serial box. But now athletes have the opportunity, 49 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: with the use of TikTok and other social media platforms, 50 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: to make their mark on the advertising world. Welcome to 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: Kick Concierge. How may I help you? Last week, there 52 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: was a massive response to our segment on Kick's contentious 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: marketing campaign and just to quickly refresh your memories, Kick 54 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: CEOs Steph gless Smith and Laura Henshaw spent days dropping 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: Easter eggs to build anticipation for a big announcement. However, 56 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: many followers were left confused and underwhelmed when they revealed 57 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: they were offering a Kick Concierge service. Why did I 58 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: just get in my head at Concierge know how they 59 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: were saying in the commercial. Now, what that involved was 60 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: a gimmicky hotline where customers could speak directly to Steph 61 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: and Laura over the phone about selecting the right polaratees 62 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: program for them. And I do want to point out 63 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: the Polarates is already a feature offered on the app, 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: It's not a new offering now as part of the 65 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: Concierge service for those who didn't want to talk on 66 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: the phone, because let's be real, millennials and gen Zettors 67 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: will literally do anything to avoid speaking on the phone. Surely, though, 68 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: if it's to Laura Henshaw and Steph Claire Smith, people 69 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: are going to want to that. Well, I would feel 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: awkward anyway. Well, they offered an online quiz for those 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: who didn't feel comfortable making the phone call to discover 72 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: which Polarates program worked best for them, and many followers 73 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: said they felt let down as they were anticipating a 74 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: bigger announcement due to the hype surrounding this campaign. I 75 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: saw Amber from Influencer up Dates talking about this on 76 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: her Live on Friday, and she said she actually tried 77 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: to call the number, but it was engaged. So while 78 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people were disappointed by it, obviously, a 79 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: lot of people also called the line to try and 80 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: get to talk to Stephan Laura. Yeah, there were also 81 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: a lot of followers convinced that this announcement was going 82 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: to have something to do with periods because throughout the 83 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: campaign there was a lot of Moron branding and also 84 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: the word flow was used a lot. And I remember 85 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: saying Amy that we felt like we'd almost seen this 86 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: ad before. Yeah, I thought it was a Libra ad, 87 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: but someone actually pointed out to us on TikTok it 88 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: was the Bond's Bloody Comfy Hotel ad that it resembled. 89 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: And as soon as I looked it up and saw 90 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: this ad on YouTube, I was like, wow, this is 91 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: so similar. Well, it followed a very similar format where 92 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: a female concierge welcomed viewers to the Bond's Comfy Hotel 93 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: and she was dressed in a dark pink suit and 94 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: she very similar to Laura and Steph. She had a 95 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: gold badge on. There was an old school telephone that 96 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: was being used. Let's throw to the clip Welcome to 97 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the Bonds, Bloody comfy hotel where everyone's free to period 98 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: however they want. 99 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: We even offer womb service. 100 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Kick Concierge. How may I help you? It's 101 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: your first time? Oh you're looking for it to last 102 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: five oh ten minutes? You'd go, queen, have a bloody 103 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: comfy stay. We've got just the flow for you. We 104 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: hope you have a wonderful workout. It was almost a 105 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: bit awkward watching these videos side by side because they 106 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: were so similar. Even the puns were kind of similar. 107 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: It made me wonder whether Kick internally came up with 108 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: the concept or whether they were pitched the concept by 109 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: a large marketing company, because doctor, I'd be annoyed if 110 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: I paid a lot of money for a creative concept 111 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: to discover the Bonds ran a very similar ad last year, 112 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: particularly when both girls do work with period undie brands, 113 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: which are in complete competition with Bonds. Now. This led 114 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: me to do a bit of digging, and what's quite 115 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: interesting is that Laura Henshaw's husband Dalton, runs a marketing 116 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: company called Bullfrog, and having a look at the company's Instagram, 117 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: you can see that they have worked on a number 118 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: of Kicks recent marketing campaigns. So it leads me to 119 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: believe that maybe they were responsible for this recent campaign 120 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: as well. Well. It might explain why Laura Henshaw was 121 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: quite sensitive about the commentary because we uploaded a short 122 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: segment on our TikTok account and it attracted over ninety 123 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: two thousand views and eighty three comments. So some people 124 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: said that they were underwhelmed by the campaign and they 125 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: didn't understand the concept, while others said the campaign achieved 126 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: what it set out to do, which was to get 127 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: people talking about it. One user wrote under our video, 128 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: they make women in business look so dark? Or are 129 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: they personal trainers? What expertise do they have? So Laura 130 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: Henshaw saw this comment and she ended up turning this 131 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: comment into a TikTok response video which she also shared 132 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: on her Instagram, and she made it a very gender 133 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: based issue and she asked the woman if she would 134 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: judge and ask a male CEO for their qualifications. And 135 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: what's particularly interesting is that her husband Dalton wrote in 136 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: the comments section, small minds discuss other people and gossip, 137 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: good minds discuss events, great minds discuss ideas. We all 138 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: get to choose what we discuss and whilst this could 139 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: be a message supporting his wife. I also saw it 140 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: as him being somewhat defensive over his team being responsible 141 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: potentially for this campaign. I was really frustrated to see 142 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: this commentary online because it suddenly became this gendered issue 143 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: when it really wasn't supposed to be, and it upset 144 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: me because we have always been really supportive of KICK. 145 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: I think that Laura and Steph are amazing business women, 146 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: but this is their campaign that has been talked about 147 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: widely online, and I don't think as female podcasters that 148 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: we should have to pretend and say that it hit 149 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: all of these different marks when we thought it was 150 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: a letdown. I also think it would have been very 151 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: patronizing and non genuine if we just hyped up this 152 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: campaign purely because it's run by two women. I have 153 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: to also point out that this is a multimillion dollar 154 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: business that is not just run by Stefan Laura. There's 155 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: a huge marketing team behind it. Well, they would have 156 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: paid probably like fifty thousand dollars or so for a 157 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: campaign like that, probably more. It's going to be disappointing 158 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: when people aren't wowed by it, but it gives them 159 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: the opportunity to go away and next time, I'm sure 160 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: they're going to come out with an amazing campaign wedding 161 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: menu tasting. Just three months out from their much anticipated wedding, 162 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro and her fiance Matt Sakowski have given followers 163 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: an insight into what will be on the menu. The 164 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: announcement of their caterer has many to question if this 165 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: portion of the wedding is being sponsored. Yeah now. Tammy 166 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: made the announcement on her TikTok last week, sharing a 167 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: video of the wedding tasting process, and in the caption 168 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: she announced that her wedding is being catered by Little 169 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: Truffle and Ridgeway Catering, which is a business located at 170 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: Mermaid Beach on the Gold Coast Now. The wedding tasting 171 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: was held at the company's fine dining restaurant, which appeared 172 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: to have been open privately just for them, and Tammy 173 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: looked beautiful. She was wearing a white Natalie Rolt dress, 174 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: whilst Matt wore black trousers and a white shirt, and 175 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: the restaurant was empty apart from a fourteen seat table 176 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: that had been set up for the couple's family. I 177 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: love it because normally when you do a wedding tasting, 178 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: you're only allowed to bring two or four people. Yeah, 179 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: it's very contentious. You have to be very selective. You 180 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: generally have to invite your parents. But it was nice 181 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: to see that Tammy had her sisters Amy and Emily 182 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: joining them. Also think it's funny because most of the 183 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: time you have to sit with a bunch of other 184 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: brides grooms who are having their wedding around the same 185 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: time as you. This looked very luxurious to have the 186 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: whole restaurant to yourself. Well, when I saw this video, 187 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: I thought, surely this must be some kind of sponsorship arrangement, 188 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: because not only did she share this TikTok, but her 189 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: fiance Matt, also shared a ton of Instagram stories and 190 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: he tagged the caterer. Yeah. My guess is that they've 191 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: set up a contra deal where they're exchanging the food 192 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: and wine for exposure. Either that or maybe the caterer 193 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: is providing a large discount in return for exposure as well. 194 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: It's a tough one because when you're a bride, I 195 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: think it's nice to tag small businesses that you work 196 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: with and give them a little shout out along the way. However, 197 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: in this case, when you're Tammy Hembro and you have 198 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: seventeen point four million followers on Instagram, you're probably not 199 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: just giving them a shout out to be nice. This 200 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: probably is a contra deal. Yeah, well, it's always going 201 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: to be a bit sas, isn't it, because you can 202 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: share about an experience without actually tagging the business. Also, 203 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: she as you said, she named the caterer. She also 204 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: included plenty of shots of the signage, vision of her 205 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: speaking one on one with the head chef, as well 206 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: as a lot of shots of the food. Well, I'm 207 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: assuming there was no hashtag sponsored or gifted or no, 208 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: there wasn't. I have to say though a side note, 209 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: this food looked incredible. They did have the usual things 210 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: for counterpis like oysters and aaronchini balls, but they just 211 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: looked so fancy. They also had delicious looking past amy, 212 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: which I was like, you would love that you had 213 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: pastor at your wedding. And it's no surprise because the 214 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: chef in question has worked at a Michelin Star restaurant. 215 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: Of course, I mean, food's so important at a wedding. 216 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: It's also very expensive, so imagine getting it gifted. I 217 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: always find wedding tastings funny because it's really the only 218 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: chance you actually get to try the food. Because I 219 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: don't know about you, Amy, did you even eat any 220 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: of your dinner at your wedding? I ate a little bit, 221 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: but as soon as I got back after the wedding, 222 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: I was starving because you just you leave so much 223 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: of it on your plate and it gets whisked away 224 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: pretty quickly. The shit thing about having your wedding near 225 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: a winery is generally there's not a McDonald's that you 226 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: can stop off for takeaway, Like, there's just nothing around there. No, 227 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: that's why you have to stock up and have stuff 228 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: back at your accommodation. I remember we were smashing some 229 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: cheeseboards after both of ours. That was the best part. 230 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: I just can't believe, though, that this wedding is only 231 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: three months away. Now. It's even more wild when you 232 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: consider that we only found out about Tammy and Matt 233 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: as a couple in September last year, so things have 234 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: moved super quickly. Well, Tammy's followers are getting excited. One 235 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: commented this is my royal wedding, to which Tammy did 236 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: a crying face back, whilst others took it as an 237 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to take a dig. One commenter said it's like 238 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: your twentieth wedding, and Tammy hit back, writing never been married. 239 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: Actually I love that she takes a swipe in the 240 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: comment section. Now it be pissed off. Yeah, you like, 241 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: I haven't even got this far before further she's got now. 242 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: A day after Tammy posted about the tasting, she shared 243 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: that she was in hospital for a plant surgery and 244 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: a lot of her followers so she shared a photo 245 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: of her hospital bracelet and wrote, just had surgery. We'll 246 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: be posting a YouTube video about it when I'm a 247 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: bit more recovered now. Matt, being the doting fiance, came 248 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: to pick her up from the hospital and he marked 249 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: the occasion with a hospital selfie in the lift, and 250 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: this led to more intrigue and interest about what Tammy 251 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: had had done. Influences love taking photos at hospitals, Oh, 252 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: because it must just pick their engagement up so much. 253 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of like those Facebook friends that will just 254 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: check in at the hospital. Yeah, they won't actually say 255 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: why they're there, and everyone be like, oh, Hannah, you're 256 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: a Rita. You're all right, I'm the DM you. Well, 257 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: it was a bit weird because instead of going home, 258 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: they spent the night at a hotel and matt had 259 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: left a couple of surprises to cheer Tammy up, so 260 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: on her bedside table he left a bouquet of roses 261 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: and some lollies and oreos and a handwritten note that 262 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: said I love you always and forever, Matthew. It just 263 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: cracked me up because the note was so sweet, but 264 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: it looked like it had been done in pencil, and 265 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: it was very childlike the writing. I think it's pretty 266 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: cute that he did that. I know everyone's been talking 267 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: about how Tammy Hembro is worth millions and millions of dollars, 268 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: but if you look at it, he's got her some chocolates, 269 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: He's got her some lollies. He's he's picking up the 270 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: supermarket flowers like I've seen those flowers so like it's 271 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: not like a bouquet from a flora, which is quite relatable. 272 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: I read some article recently and it was talking about 273 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: how Travis Kelsey had bought Taylor Swift. I think it 274 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: was fifty eight thousand dollars worth of clothes after he 275 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: left the eras tour. Yeah, he'd picked out all these 276 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: options and it just sounded very unrelatable. But I would 277 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: hate a man picking out my clothes for me. I 278 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: know he's a bit of a fashionist, but that's I'd 279 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: rather just here, here's a fifty eight thousand dollars gift 280 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: out for clothes. Yeah, if you're dropping fifty eight thousand, 281 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: you hope that you would actually like the clothes. Yeah. Well. 282 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: On Saturday, Tammy finally revealed the reason for the surgery, 283 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: and she explained on her tiktop that she had her 284 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: breast implants removed and had new implants put in. So 285 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: she said that her implants were now eight years o 286 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: and she'd become quite unhappy with the way they looked. 287 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: It's quite funny how she described it, because she said 288 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: they looked more like cousins than twins because due to 289 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: training her chest a lot, they started to move further 290 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: and further apart, and her plastic surgeon advised her that 291 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: she either needed a breast lift, but if she wanted 292 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: to avoid that, she could just get bigger breast in plants. 293 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: So she opted for the bigger breast in plants. You 294 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: need to get them replaced every ten years, isn't it. 295 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: So it's probably the smarter solution. Yeah. Well, she ended 296 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: up showing what they looked like in a sports bra, 297 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: and they do look considerably bigger than the previous implants. 298 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: That being said, we saw them a few days after 299 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: surgery when she was very swollen, so it's not really 300 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: indicative of what they're going to look like long term. 301 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: It's a big thing to get that kind of surgery 302 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: three months out from your wedding. It right when Chris Jenna, 303 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: just when I got a facelift before was it Kim's wedding. 304 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: She decided she wanted to look her best. I can 305 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: see why she's chosen to get them done before her wedding, 306 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: because everyone pumps up wedding for the photos that you'll 307 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: always remember, you'll always look back on. You want to 308 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: look your best. You going to look the best you've 309 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: ever looked, isn't that right? Yeah? Cazus who up there, guys, 310 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: And I'm going to show you the kitchen. I'm so 311 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: obsessed with him. Bali based influencer Talia Scanes has announced 312 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: she's shutting down her fashion line Scans the label after 313 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: just three years in business. Her decision comes off the 314 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: back of four other ossie influencers pulling the pin on 315 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: their self led brands, leading us to question if influencer 316 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: brands are out of vogue. So I would you buy 317 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: from an influencer brand? Look, it would really depend on 318 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: who the influencer is and what the product is, because 319 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: in the past I have been guilty of purchasing from 320 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: influencer led brands, but nowadays I'd be somewhat embarrassed to 321 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: be seen, particularly in an influencer brand's clothes, like to 322 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: have a big ZEP across my back or so, I think, 323 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: especially if the influencer brand has the influencers name it it, 324 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: people are less likely to want to look like a 325 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: fangirl or rep that brand. You don't really want to 326 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: be a walking billboard for an influencer. I think you 327 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: can also really tell the difference between influencers who are 328 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: just flogging off drop shipped items or they've just slapped 329 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: their name on a tracksuit, to those who have legitimately 330 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: invested time and money into building a business and surrounding 331 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: themselves with industry experts. And when it comes to the 332 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: smaller scale influencers, it's often a one person show, and 333 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: I think the quality of the product can be really 334 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: average and you're just paying for someone's name to be 335 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: attached to it. Well, there's so many brands that have 336 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: popped out recently that are just hoodies or trackies and yeah, 337 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: and people are over it. They don't want to buy that. 338 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: You'd rather buy a good quality item that you actually 339 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: know is being produced in perhaps an ethical factory, or 340 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: it's good quality items, it's not just some ship piece 341 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: of shit. Yeah, you want to actually know that you're 342 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: investing in an item that has been designed properly, that 343 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: it's in an ethical factory. Well. Yeah, And you've only 344 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: got to look at the success of influencers like Sammy Robinson, 345 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: Georgie Stevenson and Britney Saunders to see how influencers should 346 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: set up a business because they have worked so much 347 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: on the branding. These are hugely successful standalone business And 348 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: the thing is they are really unicorns in this space. 349 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: They are the top percenters who have been super successful 350 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: with their brands. I mean, you look at Britney Saunders, 351 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: whose store Fate is opening at sixth Store. There's Sammy Robinson, 352 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: She's got one Mile, who's about to open its first store. 353 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: Then we've got Georgie Stevenson, who has grown her supplements 354 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: brand Naked Harvest into a twenty million dollar empire. However, 355 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: in Australia, these influencers are anomalies. The tide really seems 356 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: to be turning on influencer brands because this year we've 357 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: seen Abby Chatfield, m Davies as She Binds, and Sophie 358 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Keasha all shut down their brands, and then this week 359 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: we've seen Tarlia Skeines. I was surprised that it took 360 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: this long for her to shut the brand down though, 361 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: because yeah, I know that she had third Fix with 362 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: her ex boyfriend Mitch, and you could tell that he 363 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: was really the one that was passionate about it and 364 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: that maybe Talia had just launched this business as a 365 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: sort of I don't know, it was more of Mitch's idea. Yeah. Well, 366 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: I watched the full seven minute video where she explained 367 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: the reason for the closure and it was a real 368 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: struggle to get through because it took her three minutes 369 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: to reveal what the announcement actually was about. But breaking 370 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: it down, the reason Talia has decided to shut down 371 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: the label is because she says she has too much 372 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: on her plate. Here's what she said, at this stage 373 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: of my life, I want to be more said old. 374 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: I want to be more relaxed and calm, and not 375 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: yet but in a few years time and Jack and 376 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: I will hopefully be welcoming some little babies into the world, 377 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: and I don't want to feel like that when I 378 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: had babies. Now. She's currently living in Bali with her 379 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: boyfriend Jake Sijano, who's a big property developer over there, 380 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: and they are building the biggest fuck off feller called 381 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: Casasu and she's also planning on returning to Australia soon 382 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: to start renovation a house that they've bought in Queensland. 383 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: And she said that there's a bunch of other projects 384 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: that she wants to work on that she's more passionate about, 385 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: and they're involving interior design. So I predict that she 386 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: would rather spend her time creating maybe YouTube content about 387 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: the renovation, because there's so many successful renovation vlogs and 388 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: YouTube series and I think that there's a real niche 389 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: market for that. She would be fantastic because she actually 390 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: has the budget to produce one of those. Wow homes. 391 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: They just need to get a good videographer to film it, 392 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: I think. But I think the reality more so is 393 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: is anyone actually buying from Skins the label. I haven't 394 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: seen any push on social media. I don't even really 395 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: know what they sell is at bathes, they sell a 396 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: bunch of bathers, tracksuits, skirts for around the pool. They're 397 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: shutting it down because they probably have no money coming in. 398 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: Maybe they have like one sale every six months and 399 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: then they're like, oh fuck, we've got to go and 400 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: post this out. Well, she actually has a team back 401 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: in Australia who handles all of that, and she touched 402 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: on the fact that she hasn't done many drops this 403 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: year and she just doesn't have the desire to put 404 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: her time into it, and Amy I do agree. I 405 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: ultimately think it came down to a lack of demand 406 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: because even though she didn't touch on the financial side 407 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: of things, it would be so hard for her clothing 408 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: brand to be seen and desired in this overly saturated market. Already, 409 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: reading between the lines, she's also making enough money through 410 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: the influence of work that she's doing that she doesn't 411 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: even need to continue doing this label. I also think 412 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: she's getting ready to start moving into the next stage 413 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: of her life. She discussed how she wants to start 414 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: thinking about having a family and she's trying to be 415 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: realistic about what she invests her time in. It was 416 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: interesting to read the comments section of the post where 417 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Talia announced the closure because ash Bines wrote, just did 418 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: the same thing. More. People need to honor where they 419 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: are right now, regardless of where they were six months ago. 420 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: M Davies, who also closed down her line, wrote, good 421 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: on you for putting yourself first, Darling. It's a tough decision. 422 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: And Leilah Graham, who was a model in influencer and 423 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: swimwear designer, wrote can relate to this so much, something 424 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: that also isn't spoken enough about in biz. Proud of you. 425 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: These comments are making me think even more so that 426 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: we are seeing this downturn in influencer led brands and 427 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: there is a lack of desire and want from the 428 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: general public to support these brands and to wear these brands. Yeah, 429 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: what I think it is is that most influencers, if 430 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: they have a hugely engaged following, they could bring out 431 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: a hoodie and maybe the first drop would sell out. 432 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: But unless they actually put in the effort to grow 433 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: the brand, it's not going to have any longevity. So wait, now, 434 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: who is your celebrity crush? That's what I'm trying to think. 435 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: There was mine? Oh Chris Emsworth? Come on now, I think, 436 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: but my boyfriend kind of looks like Chris Elmsway to 437 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: hear me, now, Sophie. In our subscriber episode on Friday, 438 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: we took a look back at our twenty twenty four 439 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: influencer predictions which we made at the start of the year, 440 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: and so far we've done pretty well. Yeah. I was 441 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: so surprised with how many predictions we got right and 442 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: how many were also on the right track with because 443 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: we've still got a couple of months yeah to tick 444 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: them off. Yeah, we do. And one that we're still 445 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: waiting on to come true is Jet Kenny proposing to 446 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: Lily Brown. So you can imagine my surprise this morning 447 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: when I saw a Daily Male headline which read wild 448 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: reason Jet called off proposal to Lily. I haven't clicked 449 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: on an article so quickly, so ball, they've done their job. Yeah. Firstly, 450 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: when I saw the headline, I thought, Jet, please don't 451 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: stuff up our predictions, like just get your shit together, 452 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: just propose. But when I read a bit further, I 453 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: realized the article wasn't all it appeared to be a way. 454 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: So Lily and Jet are currently holidaying in Hawaii and 455 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: they attempted to walk up the Stairway to Heaven, which 456 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: is a popular trek which leads hikers up to the 457 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: best view on the island. So Lily had had a 458 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: pretty big night beforehand drinking, but she's still attempted to 459 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: climb the stairs with Jet. It wasn't really a great idea, 460 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: considering there are three thousand, nine hundred and twenty two 461 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: steps to climb, so she took to her Instagram stories 462 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: to tell her followers things hadn't gone quite to plan. 463 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: So Lily revealed that she was so hungover that she 464 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: began dry reaching and they had to call it quits 465 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: halfway up, and by the time she got to the bottom, 466 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: she spewed in her mouth and started crying out of 467 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: frustration for quitting. So Lily wrote on her Instagram story. 468 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: Just to make things worse, Jet decided to throw in 469 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: what if I was going to propose at the top, 470 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: and this comment was meant to lighten the mood. Lily continued, 471 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: writing that she cried like an actual baby all the 472 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: way back to the car, as she was a hungover 473 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: loser who had given up and still was ringless. Do 474 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: you think it was a dick move of him to 475 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: make that joke. I think it's clear that weddings and 476 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: proposals are definitely on the agenda for them, and that 477 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: must be something that they're speaking about a lot. I 478 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: think it was a lighthearted joke, and I mean, I 479 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: personally wouldn't want to be proposed to after a long trek, No, 480 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: I just you usually want to be looking your best. 481 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: You don't want to be a sweaty mess. It's very 482 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: reminiscent of when Kurt was going to propose to Sarah's 483 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: day up on a mountain in Hawaii. 484 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 485 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: I wonder if it was the same trap. Yeah. Well, 486 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 1: he ended up losing his bottle and not proposing, and 487 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: she was pissed off because he ended up proposing just 488 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: at their hotel on the balcony when she was in 489 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: her pajamas feeling sick, and she's like, why do you 490 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: do it on the bloody mountain? Well, I think that 491 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: Jet is going to propose by the end of the year. 492 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: I think we'll be able to tick off that prediction. Yeah, 493 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: it'll be around Christmas time. That's when they got together. 494 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: It's around the two year anniversary. I think that the 495 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: ring is currently being made as we speak. Yeah, if 496 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: you want to listen to our full episode on all 497 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: of our Influencer twenty twenty four predictions, make sure you're 498 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: an Outspoken Plus member. It costs US four ninety nine 499 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: a month and you're able to go back and listen 500 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: to all of our past episodes. There's about a year 501 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: and a half's worth of content on there. I also 502 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: have to share because I put up a question box 503 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: asking people to send in their influence predictions for the 504 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: end of the year, and there are some hilarious ones. 505 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: I just didn't get to it over the weekend, but 506 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: I will share those so you can go to our 507 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: Instagram and check them out. 508 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: Oh by far the most requested guest, former Love Island 509 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: UK star turn TV host Olivia Atwood has opened up about. 510 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: The moment she found out that her now husband Bradley 511 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: Dak was cheating on her. Now, I want to point 512 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: out that the couple are now happily married and the 513 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: cheating took place when they first started dating. I was 514 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: living for this interview because you are a massive Olivia 515 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: Atwood fan. You really fought to have this segment in 516 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: today's episode, Ida because it's so juicy. So, for those 517 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: who don't know, Brad is a professional soccer player and 518 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: he and Olivia got married in a very lavish wedding 519 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: in June last year. So the couple have their own 520 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: reality show called Olivia Meets Her Match, and Brad was 521 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: the most highly requested guest on Olivia's new podcast, and 522 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: this interview did not disappoint. So first off, Olivia and 523 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: Brad discussed how they'd met out at a nightclub and 524 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: she was so open and on her She was like, 525 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: I didn't really rate you, like I didn't like what 526 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: you were wearing. However, she went through a bit of 527 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: a dry patch and she was showing photos to her 528 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: mum of guys who had shown interest in her, and 529 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: her mom was like, I'll give him a chance, like 530 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: he's cute. So she gave him a chance and they 531 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: began dating for a few months. But this is when 532 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: alarm bell started ringing for Olivia because she received a 533 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: few phone calls from his soccer player teammates. So Olivia 534 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: said that the men had really stuck their necks on 535 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: the line. As she since discovered, there is a religious 536 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: liked pack that all soccer players have when it comes 537 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: to keeping secrets for their teammates. So she said, the 538 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: unspoken code in football is you deny until you die. 539 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: This must have been pretty bad, though, this cheating, if 540 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: they had to actually read their teammates' girlfriend. What did 541 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: she say had happened? Well, the teammates rung up and 542 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: said are you dating Brad? Because there had been no 543 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: photos posted on either of their Instagram accounts, And she said, well, yeah, 544 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: I and they said, well, from what we've heard, he's 545 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: still dating his ex girlfriend. And she went to Brad 546 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: and said, well, what's going on? And he just denied it. 547 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: He denied and I denied. Now things escalated when Olivia 548 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: received a phone call from a private number. Let's have 549 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: a listen to what she said. 550 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: I remember I was in Germany for the F one 551 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: and I got a call off a block number. 552 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: It was late at night, and I never answered block numbers. 553 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: But you know something in your gut, it's just like 554 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: I just learned off the bed and I was like Hello. 555 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: This girl was like really upsets, like hello, and she 556 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: was like who's this and she was like, it's Brad's girlfriend. 557 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, whoa again? 558 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 2: Please bother And then we had a chat and basically, yeah, 559 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: you had been seeing her as well as May. 560 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: Yep, how do you feel about that? Obviously it's not 561 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: very nice. This would have been so awkward for Brad 562 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: to have to sit there and be part of telling 563 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: this story. But we kind of have Brad to thank 564 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: for Olivia being on Love Island because she was approached 565 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: to be on the show whilst she was dating Brad, 566 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: but she had turned down the opportunity. However, when she 567 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: found out Brad was cheating on her, the first thing 568 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: she did was ring back a producer and said, look, 569 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: I would do anything to be on this later series 570 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: of Love Island. And they were like, well, you've kind 571 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: of messed us around. We don't know you bit of 572 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: a loose cannon. They said, if you can fly out 573 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: in ten days, we'll have you on the show. So 574 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 1: Olivia told Brad never to speak to her again, and 575 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: she kept it quiet that she was going to appear 576 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: on Love Island until the day before she departed. So 577 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: as soon as Brad found out, he was devastated and 578 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: he came to a house to beg her not to go. 579 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: Let's have a listen to what they said. You didn't 580 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: want to go either. 581 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 2: I felt like I loved you, but obviously I was 582 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: ashamed of that, just represent on everything. 583 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: That I understood why he was going, but you didn't 584 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: want to go. 585 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was hot, but then once I got that 586 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: ADHD thing so outside out of mind. 587 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: So once I was in Spain, it was good. I 588 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: was ready to heal. I find it so fascinating that 589 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: they dated before Love Island and then they had that 590 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: huge time apart and then ended up getting married. Well, 591 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: it was such a fuck you for her to appear 592 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,239 Speaker 1: on the show because apparently Brad like one of his 593 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: favorite shows is actually Love Ireland, and she asked him 594 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: on the podcast, did you sit down and watch it? 595 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: And he admitted that he watched the first episode, but 596 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: then he was like, fuck this, I can't watch this. 597 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: This is so awkward. But Olivia has said she really 598 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: wants him to see the series because she still thinks 599 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: it was one of the best Love Islands, which I 600 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: have to agree, and she said Honestly, if you can 601 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: get past seeing me on camera kissing other guys, I 602 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: really think that you should commit the time and watch it. Well, 603 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: how long was it until they got together after the show? Well, 604 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: she ended up leaving the show with Chris Hughes and 605 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: they came second, and then they had that follow up 606 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: reality TV show. So that's the thing. I was thinking 607 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: that she was with the one of the guys for 608 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: a long time after No, they well, they had a 609 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: reality show and it only lasted three episodes. I was 610 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: meant to run for like eight episodes, and so she 611 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: got back with Brad not that long after. Interesting. So 612 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: this is the moral of the story. If someone cheats 613 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: on you, go on a reality tea to piss them 614 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: off and then you might have your happy ending after it. Well, 615 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: that is all we have time for today. Thank you 616 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: so much for listening to another episode of Outspoken. 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